The Danger of another Donald Trump Presidency

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Steve, it's hard to believe the words reported by the news since they've been taking so much out of context. And so many former collaborators being unloyal and perhaps discgruntled or corrupted.

As for the Supreme Court, Mr. Trump did what he had to do, unless you'd like him to remain a sitting duck, a helpless target of his enemies. There is no tyranny, no kingship, no immunity, just mere survival.

I agree assassinations being a risk of politicians. People have raised issues though, on how quick most media were to dismiss such events. Part of the strategy, it's appears pretty evident.

Steve, you speak about crimes but so far no serious crime has been proven, only allegations. Unless you call a crime possible tax issues. Or rather, the multiplication of charges the impartial US judges were able to miraculously obtain, 32 instead of a single one.

In the meanwhile, Joe Rogan's interview has collected 11.125 million views, with nearly one million likes, in only 12 hours. I never saw such a turnout on a podcast in such a little time.

Maybe, maybe, Mr. Trump is going to win. A very good clairvoyant would be needed at this time to foresee the close future.

Yes you are correct; survival for Dishonest Don. In a court of law Dishonest Don was convicted of raping women and even his own lawyer Cohen admitted that he was doing Dons bidding. He actually paid a woman to lie about his prostitution with her. He new that all that money would keep her quiet while he accused Clinton of lying about her internet emails when his own daughter… was doing the same when she was working with him as President.

What you are seeing is cognitive dissonance on a huge level with people justifying the crimes he has done, the insurrection he attempted, the voting fraud he attempted in Georgia, the stiffing of his contractors, the inflation of his property values, the manipulation of governments to get dirt on his rival party, the abuse he committed to women, the huge tax breaks he gave to the rich, the belittling comments he made about our war heroes while evading military duty himself, the promises he made to end the Afghan war which he never accomplished and the blame and made up fantasies he perpetuated to explain climate change, the bogus cures he perpetuated for Covid-19 …. To name only a few of his maligned actions against humanity and the world.

Taking things out of context is a hallmark of the wanna be Fuhrers behavior. Even you yourself make him into a martyr. He is no sitting duck. He is a coward who lied his way out of fighting in the Viet Nam War. For Saddam Hussein and Adolph Hitler there was also mere survival to hope for. It is a time in history where despots are getting their due for the crimes they committed. Who needs to listen to anyone defending this man when his crimes have been endless? People defined the crimes of Putin and still support the iron fist of Hitler’s fury across Europe. What more evidence do we need for the crimes and cruelty of such people? Are we fortunate enough to listen to the lessons of history to stop such terror before it runs out of control again ? Or must we learn the lessons of history over and over?!

And when Trump attempts to subvert the election again this November I hope that Biden stops the violence and whinning that he is bound to perpetuate just as he has done since he entered politics. If he does prevail let us pray for mercy for this country having a criminal as King.

 May divine order decide the fate of this country and not my will …. Jai Guru

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Arnold Schwarzenegger

https://youtu.be/7yHKvpLNX0Y?si=Rbn2NYZqgmIVfZ7Y

[mccoy]

To all the above, Steve, I would answer: he may have said the craziest things and done some crazy stuff yet.... It's a big yet.

There is previous experience, and that is his last mandate. Nothing disastrous happened. On the contrary, quite a few good things occurred, like the Abraham Accords, which really deserved a Nobel Prize for peace (even though no official agency recognized it - bias-bias-bias).

So, the Democrats may keep using ad infinitum its clicheè of Reductio ad Hitlerum, but the people of America know how to use logic. At least, those who do not detest Mr. Trump from the beginning. I understand that he is detestable, but I wonder if the hypocritical attitude of the Democrat Elite is multiple times as detestable.

And of course I agree that God's will be done, not ours, which translated means, America will get what her karma will provide.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

To all the above, Steve, I would answer: he may have said the craziest things and done some crazy stuff yet.... It's a big yet.


So, the Democrats may keep using ad infinitum its clicheè of Reductio ad Hitlerum, but the people of America know how to use logic. At least, those who do not detest Mr. Trump from the beginning. I understand that he is detestable, but I wonder if the hypocritical attitude of the Democrat Elite is multiple times as detestable.

And of course I agree that God's will be done, not ours, which translated means, America will get what her karma will provide.

Really logic? Let us see how the logic of many people of America use their ‘logic’ see below

[Jitendra Hydonus]

The hate, animosity and violence comes right from their leader himself; the Fuhrer. The true danger of the Fuhrer and his minions….

[mccoy]

Really logic? Let us see how the logic of many people of America use their ‘logic’ see below

LOL, at least they stop at cuss words. From the left, I've been told they tried to put bullets into the other one...

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Really logic? Let us see how the logic of many people of America use their ‘logic’ see below

LOL, at least they stop at cuss words. From the left, I've been told they tried to put bullets into the other one...

“You’ve been told” pretty weak mccoy. Have you been listening to the fringe dictatorial right extremists?
I’m well aware that there are extremists on both sides of the fence. But when you have the leader of the free world encouraging violence and while backing dictatorship and glorifying their accomplishments; that is a totally different matter.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Donald Trump is an existential threat to every fundamental American value. ~ former representative…Republican Adam Kinzinger

[mccoy]

Donald Trump is an existential threat to every fundamental American value. ~ former representative…Republican Adam Kinzinger

Steve, so many words..... Hitler, existential threat, dictator, criminal, felon, and so on.

However, we'd like to see facts, not words. President Trump has previously served four years as POTUS and the evidence is that he did not pose any existential threat to fundamental democratic values in America and overseas.

We would all like to have a lofty spiritual person at the top, something like Abraham Lincoln. unfortunately, God's plan are not like this.

I must thank you because you gave me the opportunity to go deeper into these issues, this vast sphere of thought with its numerous subspheres, previously I just disliked Mr. Trump I liked Mr. Obama and that was all. Now I'm seeing more behind the karmic scenes.

Bottom line, in my reasoned view. Anyone can have concerns about the second mandate of Mr. Trump. But, until the concerns will eventually materialize in democratic disasters, no one can be entitled to speak of unknown future events as the truth. Unless they show they can foresee future.

We'll see what happens, you are evidently pessimistic, I'm optimistic. But everyone should wait and see the outcomes before judging.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Donald Trump is an existential threat to every fundamental American value. ~ former representative…Republican Adam Kinzinger

Steve, so many words..... Hitler, existential threat, dictator, criminal, felon, and so on.

However, we'd like to see facts, not words. President Trump has previously served four years as POTUS and the evidence is that he did not pose any existential threat to fundamental democratic values in America and overseas.

We would all like to have a lofty spiritual person at the top, something like Abraham Lincoln. unfortunately, God's plan are not like this.

I must thank you because you gave me the opportunity to go deeper into these issues, this vast sphere of thought with its numerous subspheres, previously I just disliked Mr. Trump I liked Mr. Obama and that was all. Now I'm seeing more behind the karmic scenes.

Bottom line, in my reasoned view. Anyone can have concerns about the second mandate of Mr. Trump. But, until the concerns will eventually materialize in democratic disasters, no one can be entitled to speak of unknown future events as the truth. Unless they show they can foresee future.

We'll see what happens, you are evidently pessimistic, I'm optimistic. But everyone should wait and see the outcomes before judging.

As I’ve said before I’ve left so many facts here that it has become burdensome for some previous members but since you apparently didn’t read them or decided to write them off, or perhaps there is some reason I am currently not privy to, I will start over here. Since I not only see the ‘facts’ as important but as a cause of the beginning of the fall of the American empire. So destructive is the influence of Donald Trump and his cohorts that now the U.S. has lost its integrity in the influence for freedom in the free world.

Let us start with the complete denial of ‘facts’. Since it is an important factor to you mccoy. The ‘facts’ presented show that Donald Trump lost by more than 7 million votes in the 2020 election and by 74 electoral votes in the electoral college. Not only did he deny his loss but he proceeded to attempt to make up wild conspiracies that he claimed happened, instead of admitting he lost. His self created conspiracies led to and encouraged an attempted insurrection and also to his attempting to change the results of the elections.

Since I have brought this fact up multiple times and not only once, and there seems to be an attempt to deny these facts; let us begin here. And believe me that is only the very start of a list of facts that surround this man’s moral ineptitude.

https://edition.cnn.com/election/2020/results/president

In his own words Trumps denial of his loss in 2020….

https://youtu.be/8Ad15RCwbmg?si=IieeiUOSxqzq9a7g

Garland prepares to release Jack Smith’s report on 2020 election subversion case against Trump. But Garland intends to withhold the classified docs report while the case against Trump's co-defendants is ongoing.

Attorney General Merrick Garland intends to publicly release special counsel Jack Smith’s final report detailing evidence that Donald Trump criminally conspired to subvert the 2020 election and disenfranchise millions of voters.

https://apple.news/ASHIzpulNTw-7hg4s1N7wqw

[Jitendra Hydonus]

After my last reply with facts I thought I’d add that if the people of the U.S. desire to have him to be president after all I’ve mentioned then perhaps they need to satisfy that desire. Who am I to deny them it? No one. They have voted him in. That’s the way a democracy works. It’s just unfortunate that he couldn’t recognize that four years ago.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Trump to be sentenced today on felony charges — 10 days before his inauguration

Responding last week in his ruling to Trump's argument that the charges weren’t serious and that they should be dismissed, Merchan wrote, "12 jurors unanimously found Defendant guilty of 34 counts of falsifying business records with the intent to defraud, which included an intent to commit or conceal a conspiracy to promote a presidential election by unlawful means. It was the premeditated and continuous deception by the leader of the free world that is the gravamen of this offense."

https://apple.news/AWmzZdl_KQIqqG_eYsg7eFQ

[mccoy]

Some sites only allowed reading if ads were unblocked, but I always block them.

The only one I could read does not detail the sentence's degree. If it is 1st degree, I think there is at least an appeal possible.

In Italy, a person can be declared a convicted felon only after 3 degrees of judgment (if successive degrees are requested of course).

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Some sites only allowed reading if ads were unblocked, but I always block them.

The only one I could read does not detail the sentence's degree. If it is 1st degree, I think there is at least an appeal possible.

In Italy, a person can be declared a convicted felon only after 3 degrees of judgment (if successive degrees are requested of course).

New York: Donald Trump has become the first president-elect in US history to be convicted of a felony. Justice Juan Merchan of the New York State Court sentenced Trump to an "unconditional discharge" for 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in the first degree on Friday. While Trump did not face prison time or probation, the conviction still marks an unusual chapter in the former president's legal journey.

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Mccoy to me his worst offense isn’t anything I’ve just presented to you but that he seeks revenge for the convictions and against those who have found him guilty. This is far removed from any one who should be serving a country that is attempting to be a model for democracy around the world. It remains to be seen what measures he will take or implement to achieve such goals and asserted threats.

[mccoy]

Steve, a few observations, but regarding your concerns about retaliation, they may be excessive. President Trump is not one to be taken literally, otherwise we should conclude that he must be strait-jacketed!
For example, see his recent words about Greenland, Canada and Panama. Literally taken, they sound downright crazy. But the conceptual foundations are true. In the global scenario, America needs Panama and Greenland to achieve an efficient defense strategy. I listened to his recent press conference and journalists, as everyone else, were confused. But that's it. Words to be taken seriously enough, but not literally.

Re. Felony convictions. It was hard to find suitable references, but it seems that, according to the Forbes newspaper, this is a 1st degree conviction. In Italy, that would mean almost nothing. Almost everyone goes to appeal and often judgments will be upturned. the POTUS will not have entry restrictions from other countries, since his status will grant him an exception without a doubt.

Trump’s sentencing means he can now formally appeal his conviction and try to have it overturned, which he has said he plans to do, and even without a successful appeal it’s possible international leaders would make exceptions for a sitting president.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2025/01/10/can-trump-travel-as-president-heres-where-his-convicted-felon-status-could-be-a-problem/

My final comment on his conviction is that he deserves it, because he is undoubtedly guilty of two major faults:

1) He has been a fool to go to bed with an unknown, unreliable money-seeking lady.
2) He has been a fool to trust his traitor-lawyer Mr. Cohen.

A Potus cannot be too much of a fool. The above being said, he'll go to appeal and he will try to reverse the judgment. Almost nothing will change. The people have not given too much weight to such a predicament because it is not too important in the context of the duties a president will have to face, if not that maybe He'll learn to be smarter.