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« on: Mar 11, 2022 06:15 pm »

Presently on a smaller scale ( then what is presented on our media coverage)  I am presenting details of the unfolding drama here at the Portal, surrounding Ukraine, that is a threat to democracy around the world. We have experienced that same threat here in the United States in the last year with the efforts of one man to overthrow free elections and make the United States into a government ran by a personality cult for a minority of our population. Donald Trump fit the same description of a would be emperor, that we now see facing us from his one time buddy in Moscow: Putin who is increasing the presence of the possibility of WWlll with his aggressive behavior, and is dealing a genocidal blow to democracy and a freely elected government in Ukraine.

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« Reply #1 on: Dec 26, 2023 12:31 am »

Donald Trump led an insurrection against the United States
Section 3 of the 14th Amendment “prohibits anyone who has violated their oath of office, by engaging in insurrection or aiding in a rebellion, from running for President.
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 26, 2023 12:34 am »

Sorry Steve, but that is a lie. Donald Trump did not lead an insurrection. See attached.

Trump is not the reason for the unarmed fedsurrection. The people that attack him are. Not considering the FBI involvement, the entire reason people were there protesting was because of the relentless attacks by the establishment, fake news media, summer riots of 2020, the attacks against President Trump, the American People and the Constitutional Republic. This was the BIGGEST protest of our lifetime. And they're trying to cement their lie, because they never want to see that many people stand against them again.
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 26, 2023 12:45 am »

It’s very simple… see for yourself. Let your eyes see the forced rebellion. Be real Eric. Those people were violent and forced their way into the capital. At what point will you admit that these people forced there way into the capital building? Simply open your eyes. It is obvious by the confederate flags, Trump and Maga signs and flags who they were. Look at all the Trump hats they were wearing. Trump supporters broke down barricades and jumped through capital windows.You must take me for a fool to ignore the obvious. And then Fuhrer Trump had the bombastic gall to support these violent protesters at the end of the video.
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« Reply #4 on: Dec 26, 2023 01:09 am »

This is limited footage that does not include the instigation lead by federal agents. It's very easy to create a narrative based on limited data. My eyes are opened, as well as many other Americans who know the truth- Jan 6th was not an insurrection. It was protest of massive proportions, and entrapment lead by special interest. New footage has since been released showing police escorting the protestors through the halls, also police firing rubber bullets and smoke grenades into the crowds creating a tribal frenzy before anyone ever walked into the capitol. You don't see this kind of stuff in mainstream news because the mainstream news belongs to the special interest.

Capital Police Started Jan 6th: https://www.banned.video/watch?id=655cfd6f165be0e1475349bc

Treniss Evans Responds to Release of More Than 10K Hours of J6 Footage Exposing Deep State Inside Job: https://www.banned.video/watch?id=655bf9b7165be0e1474d7f89

New J6 Footage Nukes “Insurrection” Narrative: https://www.banned.video/watch?id=655baaa81734fe7437939264

https://rumble.com/search/all?q=jan%206th%20footage

All of these links include the additional footage that prove entrapment.

With crowds that massive, emotions and tribal frenzy are a real thing- it does not change the facts I have presented in this post or my previous one.


EDIT: See here? I say what I said with conviction that what I am saying is TRUTH. That anyone else who sees what I'm seeing is seeing the truth. That is Ego. I truly feel, by intuition and spiritual discernment, that the J6 narrative is a lie. I may be right. But it is Ego that demands I'm right. It's the same for a person who stands on the other side of the argument. To question: "how can they not see the obvious?" Is the same as saying, my views are right, theirs are wrong. Considering all the misinformation that has come out, around the world, at this time- it's fair to say we are operating from a limited scope. We may never know the truth of the matter as it relates to the worlds drama. There is so much we don't know. We don't know what went through each persons mind, we aren't even in politics. We don't understand everything a standing politician goes through, what information has been presented to them and how. What has been withheld from them and why. We can only go off what we think we know, and what we're presented.
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« Reply #5 on: Dec 26, 2023 01:37 am »

Eric you are sending me more videos of Alex Jones justifying his protests on the capital no videos of police escorting rioters into the capital. You have no proof as I do. You have seen it. I can not help that you are in denial.
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« Reply #6 on: Dec 26, 2023 01:39 am »

Entrapment is a practice in which a law enforcement agent or an agent of the state induces a person to commit a "crime" that the person would have otherwise been unlikely or unwilling to commit.[1] It "is the conception and planning of an offense by an officer or agent, and the procurement of its commission by one who would not have perpetrated it except for the trickery, persuasion or fraud of the officer or state agent".[2]

Police conduct rising to the level of entrapment is broadly discouraged and thus, in many jurisdictions, is available as a defense against criminal liability. Sting operations, through which police officers or agents engage in deception to try to catch persons who are committing crimes, raise concerns about possible entrapment.[3]

Depending on the law in the jurisdiction, the prosecution may be required to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant was not entrapped or the defendant may be required to prove that they were entrapped as an affirmative defense.

In the practice of journalism and whistle-blowing entrapment means "deceptive and trust-breaking techniques ... applied to trick someone to commit a legal or moral transgression."[4][5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrapment

I would include, that carrying your enemies banner and wearing their garbs in order to blame and mislead is also a type of entrapment.

Such is the case of John Sullivan- who disguised himself as a "Trump supporter."

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John Sullivan, the Antifa and BLM activist who stormed the Capitol on January 6 while disguised in Trump 2020 gear and captured video of the Capitol Police shooting of Ashli Babbitt has had $90,000 – ostensibly the funds he was paid by mainstream media outlets for his viral footage from the day – seized by the federal government

Yesterday night, Reuters reported that “U.S. authorities have confiscated roughly $90,000” from Sullivan. “Prosecutors have filed additional criminal charges against the man, John Earle Sullivan, a self-described political activist who is accused of entering the Capitol building and participating in the riot,” Reuters reported. Reuters notes that Sullivan boasted, “my footage is worth like a million of dollars, millions of dollars” and “Sullivan sold that footage to several news outlets for a total of $90,000, according to the seizure warrant. The news outlets were redacted from the warrant.”

At the time of Sullivan’s arrest, National File reported, “Despite claiming he only entered the building in a journalistic capacity, the indictment against Sullivan declares otherwise. The 18-page affidavit claims Sullivan allegedly incited violence by exclaiming ‘we gotta get this shit burned’ and ‘it’s our house motherfuckers.’”
https://www.infowars.com/posts/antifa-activist-who-sold-footage-of-january-6-to-cnn-nbc-had-90000-seized-by-feds/

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« Reply #7 on: Dec 26, 2023 01:40 am »

Eric you are sending me more videos of Alwz Jones justifying his protests on the capital no videos of police escorting rioters into the capital.

If you watch the videos you will see police escorting protestors. Simple as.
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« Reply #8 on: Dec 26, 2023 01:43 am »

Eric you are sending me more videos of Alex Jones justifying his protests on the capital no videos of police escorting rioters into the capital.

If you watch the videos you will see police escorting protestors. Simple as.

I did and have not seen that or any video that would even remotely suggest what you are saying. Yet, it is quite obvious the rioters pushed away barricades and jumped through windows… you see them fighting with police attempting to force their way forward. You can hear Fuhrer Trump congratulating them at the end of the video I have sent you. The reason for Alex Jones even being there was a lie. Trump lost the election. We have gone over and over that. He is a loser, because he cannot and will not accept any loss.
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« Reply #9 on: Dec 26, 2023 01:54 am »

Steve, I've watched your video- I've seen it a year ago and I watched it again today after you shared it. I don't think you've watched what I've provided(it's okay if you didn't.) But if you did, you can see the footage of protestors being escorted.

Take this link for example,
https://banned.video/watch?id=655baaa81734fe7437939264

and fast forward to 1:25. It means you'd had only to watch for one minute and twenty five seconds to see the footage. It's the exact link in my post above where it says,

New J6 Footage Nukes “Insurrection” Narrative: https://www.banned.video/watch?id=655baaa81734fe7437939264

And there are many more. I can't help if you don't care to watch, and choose to believe what you do. But I can reply and say I believe you are perpetuating a lie. That lie is definitely an attempt to subvert free elections around the world. That lie is this idea that President Trump lead an insurrection. It's not true, and I've shared why I think the protest happened in my initial reply to you. I stand by it.

Considering the amount of people that did show up to air their grievances, I don't think Joe Biden is the legitimate president. And all we've seen so far is exactly fitting to the title of your thread.
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« Reply #10 on: Dec 26, 2023 02:10 am »

There is a distinct difference between your video and mine. These people you show are walking somewhere… who knows where. The police had to fight those people off in my video. So are you saying suddenly everything became peaceful when they forced their way in? Strange you were not able to show any of their peaceful walk up the capital steps and into the capital. Again and again and again I’ve asked you why Trump and his supporters lied about the election results? And that is why they were at the capital in the first place…..to perpetuate that lie. There are so many accounts by the capital police of the violence committed by the Maga People who were supporters of the Fuhrer that day. Must I show you the evidence again and again??? There was no election stolen in the first place. Even the Fuhrers Vice President would not go along with that lie.
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« Reply #11 on: Dec 26, 2023 02:20 am »

Namaste Brother.

My last contribution towards this particular discussion, for the time being.

https://rumble.com/v1azxfn-officers-escorted-the-crowd-into-the-interior-of-the-capitol-building.html
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The following footage was obtained from the United States Department of Justice. It contains surveillance video of the Upper West Terrace doors of the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021.
Just after 2:33PM, police officers allow five individuals to exist the Capitol through the Upper West Terrace doors.

At 2:34PM, a gentleman holding an American flag catches the door just as the last protestor leaves.

He turns to the crowd outside and waves towards the door.

At the same, at 2:34PM, a gentleman with a red cap approaches the interior doors.

As the police officer notices him, he continues to approach. The police officers holds the door for the protestor, as he enters the Capitol undeterred.

At 2:35PM, a large group enters the interior of the Capitol with police standing at the doors.

As a steady stream of protestors enter through the Upper West Terrace doors, they can see police officers standing at the interior doors allowing the people to pass.

A steady stream of individuals pass by police as they stand aside without deterring protestors for several minutes.

At 2:40PM, police stop the protesters to speak to them again.

At 2:44PM, a police officer on the bottom of the screen can be seen speaking to the officers in front of him and pulling them away, indicating to the crowd that they are allowed to enter.

The officers then turn their backs to the crowd, which indicates they do not possess fear of the protestors. The officers then escort the crowd into the interior of the Capitol.
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« Reply #12 on: Dec 26, 2023 02:36 am »

I have watched your videos. The question remains why were these people there in the first place? Would they believe the lies of the Fuhrer over the testimonies of most of his chosen aids? Eric I have supported you on almost all your interests here. But on this issue I cannot. And because of the danger of this man you are following and his lies. I take great issue on this subject and will continue to until we are rid of him.

US election results 2020: Joe Biden's defeat of Donald Trump
Georgia recertifies election results, confirming Biden’s victory, despite Trump’s continued refusal to formally concede
Niko Kommenda, Antonio Voce, Frank Hulley-Jones, Anna Leach and Seán Clarke
Tue 8 Dec 2020 10.21 GMT Last modified on Thu 21 Jan 2021 03.18 GMT

BIDEN
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electoral college votes
81,281,888 votes
TRUMP
electoral college votes
74,223,251 votes
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How does the election work?
Georgia recertifies election results, confirming Biden’s victory, despite Trump’s continued refusal to formally concede
Live coverage / House to debate charge of 'incitement of insurrection'

By all accounts Biden won the election. He won the popular vote by the largest majority ever for a presidential election and he won significantly in electoral votes as well. No amount bullying, intimidation and denial will change this fact; Fuhrer Trump lost.


And there are many more. I can't help if you don't care to watch, and choose to believe what you do. But I can reply and say I believe you are perpetuating a lie. That lie is definitely an attempt to subvert free elections around the world. That lie is this idea that President Trump lead an insurrection. It's not true, and I've shared why I think the protest happened in my initial reply to you. I stand by it.

Considering the amount of people that did show up to air their grievances, I don't think Joe Biden is the legitimate president. And all we've seen so far is exactly fitting to the title of your thread.

I did watch Eric. Elections are not determined by ‘sentiment’ Eric, and the amount of people sharing their grievances. If it were so we would have had a civil war after the last presidential election. But in fact there are an overwhelming amount of people in this country who are civil and did not let the crimes and violence by the MAGA supporters of Fuhrer Trump affect and provoke them to violence. By all accounts of the Washington Police the group that came to Washington was violent, it was not a peaceful demonstration. See personal testimony of Police below:

https://youtu.be/HyUYVweoaNA?si=4yMkfwdgPu7EAbJB

The violence committed was intended for some purpose. It was an attempted insurrection that fortunately failed. Since you do not want to think of an insurrection you have to live with your own views and the affect they have had on our country. I’m not here to judge that but the outcome of the violence committed that day lives on. If you want to be associated with it, that is your choice. And you are responsible for your views believing ‘I am perpetrating a lie’ Let God decide that not you or I, that is my response.
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« Reply #13 on: Dec 26, 2023 04:04 am »

Ok Steve. I believe you watched it.

My coworkers Uncle feels extremely passionate about the Earth being flat. Although I disagree with such a notion, I realize it doesn't matter.

It only matters to that person, and the people who would choose to spend their time butting heads with that person. No one can convince this person otherwise. Despite the evidence. This person is still morally sound and practices things I would consider good and important.

For me, I don't need to understand why they feel the Earth is flat. But I think by avoiding condemnation, attacking them, or placing them in the limited scope of my reality- I may be able to understand why they might think they're right. They don't ask me to believe them. I think there's a psychological separation that happens when we feel we are so different from another that gives our Ego an inch. You give it an inch, and next thing you know- you're suffering all over again, revisiting lessons, and have just experienced a type of spiritual amnesia. Doesn't the gita say either the Ego rules us or the Soul?

Anytime we suffer, it's because our Ego demands that our notion of reality be validated as the correct way. Who am I to make such demands? If I am hung up, then I am suffering. I suppose I am suffering because I don't understand. So this need to understand is not right or wrong. In a way, it's all right. But this is one of those things I realize not to get hung up on.

Not that the destruction of sovereignty isn't concerning- but that our idea of exactly how that's happening and somehow it's my views vs yours. That's where people get hung up. Then they feel all kind of regret, and they wonder why? That's us being, "plugged in" as the woman in that 5D video you shared, mentioned. My views vs your views is not how I wish to engage the world. At least, I am trying. This emotional ploy is its own type of entrapment with regards to Maya(illusion) and personal development.

To me, there are greater mysteries to discover than to argue about whose view on the world is the right one. I do think the J6 insurrection as it has been reported by our propaganda outlets is a lie. I do think there are corrupt forces in our nation presenting lies as reality. But I realize it's a subject that people are so emotional about, they can't see that the people who think the J6 narrative a lie and the people who think it true are worried about the same thing. Instead, they feel so appalled they shut themselves off from their fellow man and from sensing the greater reality. That greater reality is one that isn't ruled by Ego but by the individuals choice to allow Soul to reign supreme. 

I find all the recent topics relevant- like it's not what others do but how I react to what others do. I was just in conversation with my self about the very topic this morning. We have real examples, of people of Faith, who have experienced liberation in the most oppressive scenarios. Political prisoners, there is a woman who practiced Falun Gong who recounts a miracle where she prayed to God to be saved from the guards who were about to rape her. They never raped her. There is the example of a great Saint who was imprisoned by a Roman emperor- everyone fell in love with this Saint while he was imprisoned. The guard even asked for his help in writing letters. The emperor did not want to kill this Saint and he asked him to renounce his faith, and said he would be saved. But the Saint refused, because in his mind- he was already free. Despite his execution, this Saint lives on in. 

Say what you want, feel how you feel, it's all good. I've made my peace with the subject and realize that sometimes we need to go down our unique paths and plug in to certain parts of 3D and the Ego drama in order to understand or remember.

We're all ignorant to an extent. Cheers. 
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« Reply #14 on: Dec 26, 2023 11:25 am »

Trump: 'May they rot in Hell. Merry Christmas'
Former President Trump in an unusual Christmas message on Truth Social called for various people he sees as “looking to destroy” the nation to “rot in Hell.” ~AppleNews

The challenge remains Eric. Ofcourse we can have differences of opinion. Is that really the point when felony charges could land Fuhrer Trump in jail for the rest of his life? Or that MAGA people shout ‘throw her in jail’ and truly want Clinton in jail? To have an opinion the world is flat doesn’t really hurt anyone except oneself, and perhaps 🤔 NASA funding. But to tell others they do not have the right to be in office in a free country where they were elected to that position is quite another. To be able to go to a public place of talking about political differences is one thing, but to charge someone with crimes because you expressed a differing opinion is quite another. Do you see?

We both can have our opinions here and not get hung up on those opinions. But if someone decides they are going to break into a building because of those opinions, we are now talking about something more than an opinion. If someone has an opinion they don’t like their governor which happened here in Michigan, they have a right to express it but they took it a step further and a attempted to kidnap her and made threats known to kill her. Yes we can comfortably sit in the comfort of our own house and express differences. We can even express our own opinions here on the portal. We are fortunate to still be able to do that. Although you and I probably do not want to be in prison, poisoned, intimidated and threatened for our opinions, which is taking place in Russia today. And there are people who admire such governments and their leaders right here in this country.

Some of us have concerns about that and seeing those around us suffering because there are those that simply do not care about the views of others. In fact to the extent they are ok putting them out of their country… either poisoning them, have someone push them out the window, throw them off a balcony or just murdering them. I truly feel it is a valuable ‘spiritual quality’ to have such concerns. For people forcing others in jail and to needlessly suffer, it is a matter of being right at any cost. And they are scheming and planning to take down anyone who disagrees. You personally may not feel that way, but if you supported others that want to shut me up and imprison me how should I support you in friendship? Would I be able to rely on you when I sat in prison at the evil intents of such people ? Should I see you as a true friend if you support such people who truly want me imprisoned or out a job?

This may not be an issue to get emotional or hung up on. I may have no ego in the matter. Perhaps I do not . Perhaps Jesus had no ego in the matter of other people nailing him on a cross to die. That is really not the issue here. The issue is do we accept others who are willing to engage in such violence? And what have I done when such means are taken against those around me? Nothing? Am I absolved of all responsibility for not responding?

I think we seriously have to question whether we want to be represented by people who have behaviors like this;

Most global political, spiritual and national leaders mark Christmas with a plea for peace, or by stressing the virtues of family and unity.
That’s not Donald Trump’s style.
The ex-president unleashed an online torrent of fury and bitterness, largely over his legal plights, spanning Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, previewing the discord and personal obsessions he will inflict on the nation in a pivotal election year in 2024. ~Stephen Collinson

With that kind of behavior is it any wonder that you and I had differences of opinion on what his supporters, that he influenced, did on Jan 6 as he watched all this, like a puff adder, smugly smiling, in the comfort of a room viewing the violence? At best let’s be prepared to use anti-venom to survive such blow hard reactions from accidental steps in his direction….

https://youtube.com/shorts/ifqxSRRKDUA?si=g72hynmUTO1Zp36C
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