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Ego; Noticing it in Others and Ourselves

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« on: Jun 30, 2021 04:47 am »

Ever notice how easy it is to notice ego in others but how difficult it is to see it in ourselves? The more we meditate, the more we become aware of it. We begin to recognize the beauty of humility and the ugliness of ego. Because ego represents the pseudo soul. Not real soul qualities. In the worst cases it manifests in bullies and aggressive conceited people. But we can notice in ourselves or those around us by being too sensitive to criticism or feeling we have to retaliate or when we get hurt by others— no one can really hurt the soul. Perhaps the body but not the soul. Even beings that have risen above the body do not identify as much with its pain and suffering because identification with the body also signifies ego. I recognize ego when I identify with the irritation of mosquitoes or flies buzzing around biting and sucking blood.

It is ok to act. We often need to act as human beings. The problems begin when we react. React to what others do and say because we take it personally. That is ego. Ego is to take offense. Perhaps others can contribute here and see ego manifesting in different ways. Ego manifests when we show off. Show off something we have as though it is part of us and makes us somehow important. Why is ego a bad thing? Because it deters us from enlightenment. We are much more than the associations we make with this material world. When we get irritated or angry with others that is ego because we are thwarted in our covert desires to have it our way.
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« Reply #1 on: Jun 30, 2021 05:06 pm »

Thanks Steve, for the beautiful reminder. How easy it is to forget our spiritual self, and as you've said, we're called to act. To find harmony with our material self while acting from a place that we may call our souls desire(to know God, be with God). There's a delicate balance and sometimes the 'hurt-filled' introspection serves at least as a way to wake us up to how we wish to act and how we wish to treat ourselves and others. I've called it Spiritual Amnesia- but I believe the dance with the material world is just as sacred as the dance with our eternal one. I hope to find harmony in their sweet love making.
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 11, 2021 08:27 am »

I've recently found my self grateful for our differences, and have found that as hard as relationships can be- there is always an opportunity to learn something about ourselves and always an opportunity to practice our spirituality. It doesn't mean we're always aware, and the word practice is strongly emphasized because it is clear to me very few people are masters at living the life they wish to live. Between rose-colored glasses and heated arguments, it seems there is always a chance for choice.

I am more and more okay with our disagreements Steve, thankful even as I believe it puts a little life in either of us- even if momentarily disappointed in the other, there is a great opportunity in discord and a value that validates the name of this forum. The spiritual portal. My practice doesn't have to be the same as yours, and it doesn't have to meet someone else's standard for reason- for me, it is in recognizing what we deem beautiful and what we deem ugly and cultivating the desired qualities.

To me, Ego is not a bad thing- not something that needs to be treated with disrespect or put in a corner. It is viewed with reverence, understanding we all have one- even Masters have ego's and I am sure through their many incarnations they've learned to curate it, to live in harmony with, towards the desired outcome. In other words, don't be afraid of Ego- it's taking the reins of your life that leads towards self mastery- accepting and eventually, understanding. It helps let go of that which no longer serves us, even if initially we've held on longer than we'd care to admit. It just means there's a lesson that wanted to be learned.
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 12, 2021 10:12 am »

I've recently found my self grateful for our differences, and have found that as hard as relationships can be- there is always an opportunity to learn something about ourselves and always an opportunity to practice our spirituality. It doesn't mean we're always aware, and the word practice is strongly emphasized because it is clear to me very few people are masters at living the life they wish to live. Between rose-colored glasses and heated arguments, it seems there is always a chance for choice.

I am more and more okay with our disagreements Steve, thankful even as I believe it puts a little life in either of us- even if momentarily disappointed in the other, there is a great opportunity in discord and a value that validates the name of this forum. The spiritual portal. My practice doesn't have to be the same as yours, and it doesn't have to meet someone else's standard for reason- for me, it is in recognizing what we deem beautiful and what we deem ugly and cultivating the desired qualities.

To me, Ego is not a bad thing- not something that needs to be treated with disrespect or put in a corner. It is viewed with reverence, understanding we all have one- even Masters have ego's and I am sure through their many incarnations they've learned to curate it, to live in harmony with, towards the desired outcome. In other words, don't be afraid of Ego- it's taking the reins of your life that leads towards self mastery- accepting and eventually, understanding. It helps let go of that which no longer serves us, even if initially we've held on longer than we'd care to admit. It just means there's a lesson that wanted to be learned.

I am happy to receive such a reply. I often think of Amma’s invocation; om lukha samastha sukhinu bhavamtu
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 24, 2023 09:17 am »

I’ve asked to see myself as others do and I’ve been shown how my own ego is still a factor in spiritual development. It often depresses me to see how I cannot seem to live up to my own standards of living and expression. As though I’m so important that I have to be so concerned.
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« Reply #5 on: Jan 25, 2023 08:22 am »

Like most human beings we have different levels of ups and downs from day to day and week to week. Although it does seem to me that for instance; a good walk or run in the the forest, followed my meditation helps me pick myself up and recognize that even though I’m perhaps far from perfect I can return to my spiritual practices. They bring me back to the awareness there is much to learn and look forward to in life despite an occasional dip in moods. I do think that it is best for us not to be too self satisfied and there are events that will happen to us all that are discouraging. It is from these events we also learn and are becoming more aware.
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« Reply #6 on: Sep 10, 2023 07:30 pm »

Sri Yukteswar meets Babaji

I have noticed that some people live in large houses and have many ‘things’ that i do not but i also recognize that there is a lonely 😩 presence in such places and i feel much more alive outdoors and in nature. People waste their lives away in trivial pursuits, looking forward to another vacation or saving money to get something else that may give them a temporary break in their bleak and dismal lives. But are we placed in this life for nothing more than working every day and then having a few hours of pleasure to ourselves? Or to the ownership of a plot of dirt and an edifice to welter away our private hours? I really like the story of Sri Yukteswar meeting Babaji which illustrates my point.

From the Autobiography of a Yogi;

The chapters first appeared in the Sadhusambad journal; later they were privately printed as a book by one of my Kidderpore disciples. “The morning after I had concluded my literary efforts,” Master continued, “I went to the Rai Ghat here to bathe in the Ganges. The ghat was deserted; I stood still for awhile, enjoying the sunny peace. After a dip in the sparkling waters, I started for home. The only sound in the silence was that of my Ganges-drenched cloth, swish- swashing with every step. As I passed beyond the site of the large banyan tree near the river bank, a strong impulse urged me to look back. There, under the shade of the banyan, and surrounded by a few disciples, sat the great Babaji!

“‘Greetings, Swamiji!’ The beautiful voice of the master rang out to assure me I was not dreaming. ‘I see you have successfully completed your book. As I promised, I am here to thank you.’

“With a fast-beating heart, I prostrated myself fully at his feet. ‘Param-guruji,’ I said imploringly, ‘will you and your chelas not honor my near-by home with your presence?’

“The supreme guru smilingly declined. ‘No, child,’ he said, ‘we are people who like the shelter of trees; this spot is quite comfortable.”


“‘Please tarry awhile, Master.’ I gazed entreatingly at him. ‘I shall be back at once with some special sweetmeats.’

When I returned in a few minutes with a dish of delicacies, lo! the lordly banyan ( a type of beautiful fig tree.) no longer sheltered the celestial troupe. I searched all around the ghat, but in my heart I knew the little band had already fled on etheric wings.

“I was deeply hurt. ‘Even if we meet again, I would not care to talk to him,’ I assured myself. ‘He was unkind to leave me so suddenly.’ This was a wrath of love, of course, and nothing more.

“A few months later I visited Lahiri Mahasaya in Benares. As I entered his little parlor, my guru smiled in greeting.

“‘Welcome, Yukteswar,’ he said. ‘Did you just meet Babaji at the threshold of my room?’

“‘Why, no,’ I answered in surprise.

“‘Come here.’ Lahiri Mahasaya touched me gently on the forehead; at once I beheld, near the door, the form of Babaji, blooming like a perfect lotus.

“I remembered my old hurt, and did not bow. Lahiri Mahasaya looked at me in astonishment.

“The divine guru gazed at me with fathomless eyes. ‘You are annoyed with me.’

“‘Sir, why shouldn’t I be?’ I answered. ‘Out of the air you came with your magic group, and into the thin air you vanished.’

“‘I told you I would see you, but didn’t say how long I would remain.’ Babaji laughed softly. ‘You were full of excitement. I assure you that I was fairly extinguished in the ether by the gust of your restlessness.’

“I was instantly satisfied by this unflattering explanation. I knelt at his feet; the supreme guru patted me kindly on the shoulder.

“‘Child, you must meditate more,’ he said. ‘Your gaze is not yet faultless-you could not see me hiding behind the sunlight.’ With these words in the voice of a celestial flute, Babaji disappeared into the hidden radiance.

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