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« Reply #15 on: Sep 16, 2020 07:19 am »

nothing new under this sun! unless, of course, you are talking about the newly discovered sun. in which case, holy shit!  Shocked
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« Reply #16 on: Sep 16, 2020 09:16 am »

nothing new under this sun! unless, of course, you are talking about the newly discovered sun. in which case, holy shit!  Shocked

It interests me to see 9 guests watching this topic right now and some of the recent events unfolding around me. What intrigues me is our relationship. Have you noticed that when we chat together on the phone we rarely chat much about world drama and politics? We have a lot of laughs. When we are here we experience each other on a different level.

So I suppose that my last ‘joke’ was somewhat of way to keep this subject going. I know it must be important to you since you created the thread. You talk about having open dialogue Eric and by the quality of your opening thread, it appears you do not think this is happening anywhere.

Being a yogi, I believe that like me, not are you only trying to find answers for the world but more importantly your attitude to the world and the people we meet in it. Especially close friends who we wonder about and try to understand their views and how they have arrived at them.

When I bring a up this subject some thoughts come to my mind. One is that there are two conflicting energies that struggle for prominence in our spiritual lives and physical life in the material world. One is the inward drawing energy that brings us peace and harmony. A world where we are striving to be free and end our reoccurring sojourns here. Granted that is for most of us a long term goal. Yet we still have the notion of enlightenment or satori given to us by the Masters who influence our daily lives. Then on the other side of the coin we have cosmic delusion and maya which draws us outward into this physical world and its chaos. And that’s where the cookie crumbles. Because we are trying to put together a sweet packaged cookie and outer forces seem to be working against us to crumble our efforts.

I’m sure you recall our common support of Tulsi Gabbard. She kind of brought together for a common purpose or action the ideology of our shared situation.  We both admired certain qualities about her. Now that the lines are rather more defined by political borders and ideology it is more difficult for us to see eye to eye. She made reducing military activity abroad a central message of her campaign. On March 19, 2020, Gabbard dropped out of the 2020 election and endorsed former Vice President Joe Biden. I am not sure how you feel about that. Although it is evident to me that you carry on some of her ideals. Most specifically her practice of holding public and political dialogue and traveling to find solutions even with the most shady of characters, to bring understanding and peace as a goal. I often find that as friends both of us lower our tone with our oafish ways.  However in both of us there often appears to be a general tone of believing in concealed forces at play when we see the world at large. Although from different sides of the political spectrum, there is still a feeling of subterfuge taking place.

Just some observations I have made over the last few years. Not sure if this will fit together as a revealing aspect of what’s taking place between us and the world or that it is just something we should be mindful of when having these conversations on a private level. At this point it is more obvious in our personal encounters on this site. Perhaps someone else like you has a view on what I am saying here. Many times I have found that outward events in our lives mirror inner struggles and lessons we are to learn personally for our souls growth, evolution and enlightened awareness. This is a consideration that perhaps transcends these divisions in culture and puts the light on our own behaviors and attitudes. I just read something that may reflect what applies to both of us and perhaps the relationship that exits between others that are reading this; do not let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do.

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« Reply #17 on: Sep 17, 2020 06:03 am »

Thank you Steve. These are beautiful words and, lovely introspection.
(I removed the video because it wasn't relevant to our discussion).
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« Reply #18 on: Sep 17, 2020 11:16 am »

Since you put in a rather nostalgic video here I decided to read on about this phenomena you are chatting about. I found this description rather impartial;

https://www.dictionary.com/e/pop-culture/cancel-culture/#:~:text=Cancel%20culture%20refers%20to%20the%20popular%20practice%20of,social%20media%20in%20the%20form%20of%20group%20shaming.

It is a rather novel idea to me and see the correlation and reasons you brought this topic to our awareness. I’m sure refers to some qualities that I imbue. At the time of reading this I have rather mixed feelings about it. I can read things like the news of Micheal Jackson when he was alive. I remember thinking what a genius he was and couldn’t really be too critical about what was being said about him. I knew people in California who told me some wonderful things about him. Then I think of John Lennon and all the bad things that were said about him. Quite a bit because he made an offensive observation; that the Beatles were more popular than Jesus at the time. He was probably right but somethings are just in bad taste.... as for instance Donald Trumps continuous character defamation directed at anyone who disagrees with him.

How much should people be accountable for their actions and speech? Good question. I find myself asking how much should I be accountable for my actions and speech. Sometimes these outer plays we see with other people give us a long pause to think over just how much we ourselves are canceled out in the views and accusations of others. This has been a serious issue in my own life. I often wonder if I make it that way though because others around me feel I should be cancelled out. It is an energy that does play out both ways. Not one. That is ... if it can be seen in others it also can be directed at and seen in ourselves. I suppose that just bringing that element of awareness to us by you and others is to help us in our awareness of what energies we bring into our personal lives.

I find that at various times in our lives we find ourselves in social realities that are so skewed by others that we find it necessary to curb our social encounters with certain people places and groups. This applies to spiritual organizations, friends and strangers. Often I have seen it as a divine intercession to move us in a different direction and locality even though it is true that we can never really ever escape the lessons that reoccur in other guises and we should recognize it is part of the equation.
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« Reply #19 on: Sep 20, 2020 03:30 pm »

Thought I would put this definition here;

WHAT DOES CANCEL CULTURE MEAN?

Cancel culture refers to the popular practice of withdrawing support for (canceling) public figures and companies after they have done or said something considered objectionable or offensive. Cancel culture is generally discussed as being performed on social media in the form of group shaming.

It may have a different name than I’m aware of but I think this takes place on a more personal level as well when other people give us the silent treatment or work behind the scenes to cancel us out and our views.
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