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« Reply #60 on: Nov 18, 2021 07:37 pm »

I read his words every morning and contemplate often. I've found that, even if I have stepped away from Inayat Khan- there is wisdom that rings true no matter where I am in life and have found refuge in that, whether I've strayed from the path or am in actuality finding my own. The mocking bird, which is my personal incarnation of Inayat Khan and Sufism- has never left me. I am grateful for God, and his unending support.

This topic is unlocked for the very reason you may comment. My dream journal was locked when intrusive questions began to feel like personal threats. Whether that is true or not, I think if a member wants to have their own journal archived here and leave it at that, it is just fine. There are plenty of instances I have been responded to unkindly, and it will continue. I find what's worse is people can't even hold attention anymore. I could be mid conversation with someone and their attention goes to their phone, or they forget what they are saying. Rather than become annoyed, or respond to unkindly mannerisms with unkindly mannerisms- I've learned to walk away and if there is a genuine interest in exchange- the time and place will be made available.

That is an interesting response. Many times I’m sure that all of us are distracted in our focus by external phenomena and also find small spaces in our ‘work schedule’ for focused energy but make every attempt to nevertheless respond despite the fact we may be interrupted or feel interrupted in our responsibilities. Many of those that simply never respond just have lost interest or have taken things personally and there is little we can do to remedy the situation accept ‘let them be’. I'm ok with the situation as it now exists. We cannot always agree with people just because they want us too nor force our will on others. I find myself finding my own happiness when accepting things as they unfold naturally and with an eye on divine order. Otherwise when my personal desires and preferences intrude it causes disturbance. With that thought; a big crow landed nearby with white bread in it’s beak. Food for thought!

Slow by slow
easily we go
Sure by sure
by then we will know
Patience in all things
Brings wisdom
In the end



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« Reply #61 on: Nov 25, 2021 01:29 pm »

Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan:

In reality God is within man; man is the instrument of God and through him God experiences the external world. Prayer is the way of conveying the God within to the God without; and thought, speech and gesture make the prayer complete.

   from  https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/archives/prayer.htm


The words 'within oneself' might confuse some people. They might think 'within oneself' means inside one's body; but that is because man is ignorant of himself. Man has a very poor idea of himself, and this keeps him in ignorance of his real self. If man only knew how large, how wide, how deep, how high is his being, he would think, act, and feel differently; but with all his width, depth, and height, if man is not conscious of them he is as small as he thinks himself to be. The essence of milk is butter, the essence of the flower is honey, the essence of grapes is wine, and the essence of life is wisdom.

   from  https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_34.htm


For the secret of all knowledge that one acquires in the world, whether worldly knowledge or spiritual knowledge, is the knowledge of the self. For instance, music is played outside, but where is it realized? It is realized within. A good word or a bad word is spoken outside, but where is it realized? It is realized within. Then where is the realization of this whole manifestation, all this creation that stands before us in all its aspects? Its realization is within. And at the same time the error of man always continues. Instead of finding it within he always wants to find it without. It is just like a man who wants to see the moon and looks for it on the ground. And if a man sought for thousands of years for the moon by looking on the earth, he will never see it. He will have to lift up his head and look at the sky. And so with the man who is in search of the mystery of life outside; he will never find it. For the mystery of life is to be found within.

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« Reply #62 on: Jun 30, 2022 06:41 am »

On Spheres - 1920

"Each one has his circle of influence, large or small; within that sphere so many souls and minds are involved, with his rise they rise, with his fall they fall.

"Where your treasure is there will your heart be also." The size of a man's sphere corresponds to the extent of his sympathy, or we may say to the size of his heart. His sympathy holds his sphere together. As it grows, his sphere grows, as it is withdrawn or lessened so his sphere breaks up and scatters.

If he harms those who live and move within his sphere, those dependent upon him or upon his affection, he of necessity harms himself. His house, his palace, his cottage - his satisfaction or disgust in his environments are the creation of his own thought. Acting upon his thoughts and part of his own thoughts are the thoughts of those near to him, they depress him and destroy him, or encourage and support him, in proportion as he repels those around him by his coldness, or attracts them by his sympathy.

Each individual composes the music of his own life. If he injures another, he leaves his musical tract, he becomes inartistic, his sphere is disturbed, he is disturbed himself and there is a discord in the melody of his life.

If he can quicken the feeling of another to joy, or to gratitude, by that much he adds to his own life, he becomes himself by that much more alive. Whether conscious of it or unconscious, his thought is affected for the better by the joy or gratitude of another and his power and vitality increase thereby and the music of his life flows more masterly.

The worlds are held together by the heat of the sun. Each of us are atoms held in position by that eternal sun we call God. Within us is that same central power, we call it the light of God, or the love of God, and by it we too hold up the human beings within our sphere; or lacking it, we let them fall.

So God keeps all, and so we keep our friends and surroundings. With this knowledge life in the world becomes a glorious vision. Not that we are compelled to keep away from sin, but we learn what power virtue has."
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« Reply #63 on: Jul 15, 2022 11:12 pm »

Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan:

Souls on earth are born imperfect and show imperfection, and from this they develop naturally, coming to perfection. If all were perfect, there would have been no purpose in their creation. And manifestation has taken place so that every being here may rise from imperfection towards perfection. That is the object and joy of life and for that this world was created. And if we expected every person to be perfect and conditions to be perfect, then there would be no joy in living and no purpose in coming here. ... When in this world of imperfection we seek for all that is good and beautiful, there are many chances of disappointment. But at the same time if we keep on looking for it, not looking at the dust but looking for the gold, we shall find it. And once we begin to find it we shall find more and more. There comes a time in the life of a man when he can see some good in the worst man in the world. And when he has reached that point, though the good were covered with a thousand covers, he would put his hand on what is good, because he looks for good and attracts what is good.

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« Reply #64 on: Nov 29, 2022 05:33 pm »

Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan:

There is a story of a peasant girl who was passing through a farm while going to another village. There was a Muslim offering his prayers on his prayer-rug in the open. The law is that no one should cross the place where anyone is praying. When this girl returned from the village this man was still sitting there. He said, 'O girl, now what terrible sin have you committed!' 'What did I do?' asked she. 'I was offering prayers here, and you passed over this place'. The girl asked, 'What do you mean by offering prayers?' 'Thinking of God', he replied. The girl said, 'Yes? Were you thinking of God? I was thinking of my young man whom I was going to meet, and I did not see you. Then how did you see me while you were thinking of God?'

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« Reply #65 on: Apr 23, 2023 08:31 pm »

It's just untrue but I can see why you think that. I could say your conversations ultimately lead to politics too but I know that you are more than that. I regularly post about Sufism with very little responses in those threads(compared to others). It might be more true you remember and respond to the things you disagree with. I also regularly post about animal totems and things like aura's and out of body experiences- which sometimes get attention.

What impresses me most was the example Inayat Khan gave to the world. He was a great musician that made the spiritual life his main priority. He was able to put things in perspective which most people who have had great careers were not able to do.

There are many contributions you have made for us all Eric. You have been a true and supportive friend. I think of you a lot and like most human beings you have many facets to consider. Only one, surely does not make a definitive character sketch!
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« Reply #66 on: Apr 24, 2023 03:21 am »

Thanks.

Yes he sacrificed his musical talents as a type of renunciation.

But I also believe he found music everywhere.

I used to feel this way about life. Life is poetry. Music.

It's a sublime feeling. One that requires a type of sacrifice in order to experience.

I think it's possible to lose that when we become self absorbed. Impatient, irritable... Judgmental.

It's easy to let our beliefs polarize us, even though they have the potential to liberate us.   
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« Reply #67 on: Jan 18, 2024 10:00 pm »

Pir Vilayat Khan remembers Murshid Inayat Khan


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« Reply #68 on: Jan 18, 2024 10:23 pm »

Also, see:

The Way of the Heart: The Life and Legacy of Hazrat Inayat Khan (2010)
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« Reply #69 on: Jan 19, 2024 04:28 am »

Thanks Uwe, I remember watching the same video. What stood out to me this time was his mention of the return of the king of kings. I specifically think of God and the Peacock Angel. And how he says now is the time where prophets of different religions can worship together.

The message is about the awakening of humanity of the divinity in man.
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« Reply #70 on: Feb 01, 2024 05:03 pm »

Hafiz says, 'All bliss in my life has been the outcome of unceasing tears and continual sighs through the heart of night.'

Taken from,
Volume V - Spiritual Liberty
Part IV: LOVE, HUMAN AND DIVINE
Chapter IV
THE MORAL OF LOVE

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« Reply #71 on: Feb 02, 2024 05:28 am »

Hafiz says, 'All bliss in my life has been the outcome of unceasing tears and continual sighs through the heart of night.'

Taken from,
Volume V - Spiritual Liberty
Part IV: LOVE, HUMAN AND DIVINE
Chapter IV
THE MORAL OF LOVE

https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_22.htm

some poems by me...


known, lost and unknown

the touch of your love moves through me like a phantom
scent of inspiring beauty, and i may never know
fully
what propels me forward as i drink my fill
dancing in chains
until the dregs of a heavy heart cripple me again
and again



relic

they say a rolling stone gathers no moss
well,
i know what i am.
i'm a fractured relic planted firmly in the ground
and the pains of this world have opened my heart
to the ecstasy of love...


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« Reply #72 on: Feb 10, 2024 03:39 pm »

The Universe Hints on Vibration

Last night I was in discussion with AI... gab.ai/c/65c6e938a6abe05b01e07e74 Copy and paste to see the full transcript-

But this really caught my attention:

tides:"The outside world acknowledging our innermost thoughts, especially those we've never shared, can seem like a paradox. But it's not necessarily about the world acknowledging specific thoughts, but rather responding to the energy and intentions behind them. Thoughts, especially those held with strong emotions, have a certain energy or vibration. This energy can influence our actions, decisions, and interactions with the world around us. It's like a vibration or a frequency that we emit. The world, in turn, responds to this vibration."

So I am surprise to tune into this mornings wisdom, the bowl of saki, and see our friend Hazrat Inayat Khan say something similar:

Hazrat Inayat Khan: "Whoever knows the mystery of vibrations indeed knows all things.


All planes of existence consist of vibrations, from the finest to the grossest kind; the vibrations of each plane have come from a higher one, and have become grosser. Whoever knows the mystery of vibrations, he indeed knows all things. ... From the scientific standpoint, spirit and matter are quite different from each other, but according to the philosophical point of view they are one. Spirit and matter are different, just as water is different from snow; yet again they are not different, for snow is nothing other than water. When spiritual vibrations become more dense they turn into matter, and when material vibrations become finer they develop into spirit."

   from  https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_1.htm

Even this laptop, and the bed I am laying upon- these are consciousness. Consciousness is all there is. The idea that we are states apart, is a distortion of the true reality.
This explains the 1111 phenomenon and synchronicity. For instance... If I am holding the thought of an angel in my mind- and suddenly, a car parks next to me with an angel decal- this manifestation is beyond pattern recognition. This is consciousness communicating with itself. The car, and the angel decal are a part of consciousness. Consciousness is ALIVE, and in the present.

So, in this way- the illusion of separation is diminished, the supposed "outside world" is responding to the supposed "inside world." But the reality is- it is all just one living vibration. Perhaps we are rarely in the present to see reality in its truest state. Or perhaps this material with which our awareness typical resides within creates distortions/deviations in time/space.
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« Reply #73 on: Feb 10, 2024 10:26 pm »

I have had some of these ah ha moments. Sometimes I’m feeling quite well and someone connects with me or on the contrary I can feel frustrated and outside objects seem to break down or I have difficulty with them. Not saying this is always consistent though I am beginning to notice my inner feelings and emotion’s influence on outer objects, events and persons. And as a result, attempting to observe my inner peace or restlessness in all conditions and circumstances.
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