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« Reply #300 on: Jun 09, 2021 05:38 pm »

Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan:

The final victory in the battle of life for every soul is when he has abandoned, which means when he has risen above, what once he valued most. For the value of everything exists for man only so long as he does not understand it. When he has fully understood, the value is lost, be it the lowest thing or the highest thing. It is like looking at the scenery on the stage and taking it for a palace. Such is the case with all things of the world; they seem important or precious when we need them or when we do not understand them; as soon as the veil which keeps man from understanding is lifted, then they are nothing.

Do not, therefore, be surprised at the renunciation of sages. Perhaps every person in the spiritual path must go through renunciation. It is not really throwing things away or disconnecting ourselves from friends; it is not taking things to heart as seriously as one naturally does by lack of understanding. No praise, no blame is valuable; no pain or pleasure is of any importance. Rise and fall are natural consequences, so are love and hatred; what does it matter if it be this or that? It matters so long as we do not understand. Renunciation is a bowl of poison no doubt, and only the brave will drink it; but in the end it alone proves to be nectar, and this bravery brings one the final victory.

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« Reply #301 on: Jun 30, 2021 06:48 pm »

When one dives within, he finds that his real self is above the perpetual motion of the universe.

     Bowl of Saki, June 30, by Hazrat Inayat Khan


The soul of man is a dweller in heaven. It is able to see more than the eyes can see. It is able to hear more than the ears can hear. The soul is able to expand further than man can journey. The soul is able to dive deeper than any depths that man can ever touch. The soul is able to reach higher than man can reach by any means. Its life is freedom, it knows nothing but joy and sees nothing but beauty. Its own nature is peace, and its being is life itself. It is not intelligent. It is intelligence itself. It is spirit. Its nature is not human but divine. ... Man is a process, manifestation is a process through which the spirit goes from one condition to another condition, from one pole to another pole. And through this whole process the attempt of the spirit is to find itself. ... The highest perception of freedom comes when a person has freed himself from the false ego, when he is no longer what he was. All the different kinds of freedom will give a momentary sensation of being free, but true freedom is in ourselves. When one's soul is free, then there is nothing in this world that binds one; everywhere one will breathe freedom, in heaven and on earth.

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It is therefore that the Sufi seeks God as his love, lover and beloved, his treasure, his possession, his honor, his joy, his peace; and his attainment in its perfection alone fulfills all demands of life both here and hereafter.

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« Reply #302 on: Jul 07, 2021 03:19 pm »

It is in unfoldment that the purpose of life is fulfilled, and it is not only so with human beings but also with the lower creation; even with all the objects that exist the fulfillment of their existence lies in their unfoldment. ... We learn from this that every being and every object is working towards that unfoldment which is the fulfillment of its purpose. There is a saying of a Persian poet, Sadi, that every being is intended to be on earth for a certain purpose, and the light of that purpose has been kindled in his heart. In all different purposes which we see working through each individual, there seems to be one purpose which is behind them all, and that is the unfoldment of the soul.

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« Reply #303 on: Jul 07, 2021 06:29 pm »

Nice message. Beautifully conveyed. Helpful to the current moment.
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« Reply #304 on: Jul 23, 2021 04:55 pm »

Commentary by Hazrat Inayat Khan:

Speaking from a metaphysical point of view, the Kingdom of Heaven may be attained by the way of repentance. If we have offended a friend, and he turns away from us, and we in fullness of heart ask for forgiveness, his heart will melt towards us. If, on the other hand, we close our heart, it becomes frozen. Repenting and asking for pardon not only melts the hearts of those we have offended, but also of those in the world unseen. These words can also be explained scientifically. Warmth melts, while cold freezes. Drops of water falling on a warm place and on a cold place are affected differently. The drop in the warm place spreads and becomes larger, covers a larger space, whereas a drop in the cold place freezes and becomes limited. Repentance has the effect of a drop spread in the warm sphere: it causes the heart to expand and become universal, while the hardening of the heart brings limitation.

The bubble does not last long; it soon breaks, but with its break it joins a mighty ocean. So with us. When by warmth of heart we can break our limited self, we merge in the One, the unlimited. When our limited kingdom is lost from our sight, we inherit the Kingdom of God.

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« Reply #305 on: Aug 10, 2021 06:52 am »

Many, content with their honesty, speak just as they like at the moment. They do not mind what effect it will produce as long as they are sure that what they say is true. The truth that strikes like a hammer on the head of the listener is not desirable, one would be better off without it. This shows that it is not only a thing to consider that what one says is true, there is another consideration which is most necessary, and that is what effect it will make on the other. ... The complete spiritual life is not a dreamy one, but wide-awake, full of thought and consideration.

The word has a magic in it, it can turn friends into your enemies, and it can make your enemies your friends. The mystery of all success in every direction of life is in the word. The word has power to turn the mind of the listener warm or cold. The word can produce the effect of earth, water, fire, air, or ether. The word can produce depression or joy. The one who knows the chemistry of the word does not need drugs or herbs. He has medicine for every disease in the world, not only for bodily disease, but also for the disorders of the mind, which still remain unexplored by science. By a constant study of life, by special thought given to one's word, by careful watching of the effects of one's speech upon others, one arrives at a state of realization where one can heal hearts.

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« Reply #306 on: Aug 10, 2021 07:48 am »

Many, content with their honesty, speak just as they like at the moment. They do not mind what effect it will produce as long as they are sure that what they say is true. The truth that strikes like a hammer on the head of the listener is not desirable, one would be better off without it. This shows that it is not only a thing to consider that what one says is true, there is another consideration which is most necessary, and that is what effect it will make on the other. ... The complete spiritual life is not a dreamy one, but wide-awake, full of thought and consideration.

The word has a magic in it, it can turn friends into your enemies, and it can make your enemies your friends. The mystery of all success in every direction of life is in the word. The word has power to turn the mind of the listener warm or cold. The word can produce the effect of earth, water, fire, air, or ether. The word can produce depression or joy. The one who knows the chemistry of the word does not need drugs or herbs. He has medicine for every disease in the world, not only for bodily disease, but also for the disorders of the mind, which still remain unexplored by science. By a constant study of life, by special thought given to one's word, by careful watching of the effects of one's speech upon others, one arrives at a state of realization where one can heal hearts.

   from  https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_6.htm

See it can be done  Smiley

I think it's how we interpret as well, and, if it's correctly interpreted. There is really so much misunderstanding going on. Some have a "way" about themselves too, that I will never have.

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« Reply #307 on: Aug 14, 2021 12:29 am »

I read a story the same day about Inayat Khan but I can't find it in the link provided. I think it was something like... He was celebrating around another human being, and tried to show his excitement and said something like "We are brothers!" And the man, possibly a solider, was so insulted by Inayat Khan he asked him how he could dare equate himself as his brother- and Inayat Khan, instead of arguing or presenting the man any wisdom from another point of view simply bowed his head and said, "I'm sorry- I am your servant." The man was pleased. And that was the end of it.

I have such a large Ego that this lesson really blew me away. Especially because I hold Inayat Khan in such high regard.

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« Reply #308 on: Aug 15, 2021 03:04 pm »

   ~~~ The pain of life is the price paid for the quickening of the heart.

Commentary by Hazrat Inayat Khan:

There is a phrase in the Bible, "Knock, and it shall be opened unto you". The Message of God is an answer to the cry of humanity. Now, as to the instrument of the message -- in reality the whole universe is an instrument, and every object and every being in it is an instrument; through whichever instrument He chooses He gives His message. One sees in one's life, and especially at times when one is deep down in depression and sorrow, some answer coming to the difficulty of that situation. It may come from a friend, from a brother, from parents, from a beloved; even from one's enemy one may get what was necessary at the moment.

But you will say, "Why should a message come in the life of an individual in the time of pain, or after a great sorrow? Why should not a message come every day for one's guidance?" And there are two reasons for it: One reason is that there is constantly a guidance from above, but man, so absorbed in his life's activities, does not open his heart to listen to that message and to see where it comes from. And the other reason is that the deeper the sorrow the higher the voice of the heart rises, until it reaches the throne of God; and that is the time when the answer comes, when a person is drowned deep in the sorrow and grief. ... Plainly speaking, man's real being is his heart, and in pain the heart becomes living and without pain man seems to be living on the surface. You will often see in life that people with an intolerable nature and manner, after having gone through the agony of pain in life, develop in them a finer nature.

   ~~~ Religious Gatheka 45, The Message, by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished)
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« Reply #309 on: Aug 15, 2021 06:51 pm »

There is a phrase in the Bible, "Knock, and it shall be opened unto you". The Message of God is an answer to the cry of humanity.

Or is it, The rewritten interpretation by man? (or really just some guy)
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« Reply #310 on: Aug 16, 2021 02:27 am »

Many, content with their honesty, speak just as they like at the moment. They do not mind what effect it will produce as long as they are sure that what they say is true. The truth that strikes like a hammer on the head of the listener is not desirable, one would be better off without it. This shows that it is not only a thing to consider that what one says is true, there is another consideration which is most necessary, and that is what effect it will make on the other. ... The complete spiritual life is not a dreamy one, but wide-awake, full of thought and consideration.

The word has a magic in it, it can turn friends into your enemies, and it can make your enemies your friends. The mystery of all success in every direction of life is in the word. The word has power to turn the mind of the listener warm or cold. The word can produce the effect of earth, water, fire, air, or ether. The word can produce depression or joy. The one who knows the chemistry of the word does not need drugs or herbs. He has medicine for every disease in the world, not only for bodily disease, but also for the disorders of the mind, which still remain unexplored by science. By a constant study of life, by special thought given to one's word, by careful watching of the effects of one's speech upon others, one arrives at a state of realization where one can heal hearts.

   from  https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_6.htm

See it can be done  Smiley

I think it's how we interpret as well, and, if it's correctly interpreted. There is really so much misunderstanding going on. Some have a "way" about themselves too, that I will never have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmFegSP8Zuo&ab_channel=RayLaska

Yea some kinda mysterious medicine that makes you fall over cause it hits yea right in the gut when you’re tryin to relax.


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« Reply #311 on: Aug 17, 2021 01:50 am »

Commentary by Hazrat Inayat Khan:

Among all the valuable things of this world, the word is the most precious. For in the word, one can find a light which gems and jewels do not possess; a word may contain so much life that it can heal the wounds of the heart. Therefore, poetry in which the soul is expressed is as living as a human being. The greatest reward that God bestows on man is eloquence and poetry. ... There is a Hindu idea that explains this very well: that the vehicle of the goddess of learning is eloquence. Many live, but few think; and among the few who think there are fewer still who can express themselves. Then their soul's impulse is repressed, for in the expression of the soul the divine purpose is fulfilled.

   from  https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_4_11.htm


There are some whose thoughts are like jewels. They are collected and treasured and valued more than diamonds. Sometimes a thought brings us a peace, a joy, in whatever difficulties or sorrows we may be. ... Have you known what it is to give your meal to another and to go without yourself? It gives a happiness that no dinner eaten by yourself can give. Have you known what it is to give your coat to another and do without it yourself? It gives a joy that the satisfaction of your own wants cannot give you. Even that perfect peace and calm which is the eternal life is in man and can be attained by man.

   ~~~ "Supplementary Papers, Philosophy II", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished)



   ~~~ Words that enlighten the soul are more precious than jewels.
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« Reply #312 on: Aug 17, 2021 10:06 am »

We all have certain spiritual lessons to learn in life and one of mine is to know when and how to say things that I believe to be true without being misinterpreted and offended by my presentation. There are few people who ‘know’ what is a truthful statement and when to announce it and when it is better left unsaid. No doubt that is why Amma said “no comment” when asked about the current situation in the United States and Jesus was silent with no response when Pilot asked him “what is truth?” Since we were not there perhaps he did not even give Jesus the chance to answer but he did not find any guilt in him. It was the people and the religious people that sought no answer. Some people are offended by answers or possible solutions to difficult situations. In which case anything we say can be held against us.
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« Reply #313 on: Aug 17, 2021 11:57 pm »

Jesus was probably silent because maybe he didn't know what kind of answer was expected, as there are literally many ways to answer that question and would likely take a while to explain, and he probably also knew Pilot wouldn't get it anyway, and also he knew whatever answer he gave wouldn't be accepted anyhow, so why bother.

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« Reply #314 on: Aug 18, 2021 04:28 am »

We all have certain spiritual lessons to learn in life and one of mine is to know when and how to say things that I believe to be true without being misinterpreted and offended by my presentation. There are few people who ‘know’ what is a truthful statement and when to announce it and when it is better left unsaid. No doubt that is why Amma said “no comment” when asked about the current situation in the United States and Jesus was silent with no response when Pilot asked him “what is truth?” Since we were not there perhaps he did not even give Jesus the chance to answer but he did not find any guilt in him. It was the people and the religious people that sought no answer. Some people are offended by answers or possible solutions to difficult situations. In which case anything we say can be held against us.

this reminds me of giving unsolicited advice. in my experience, if someone doesn't want to hear it or doesn't understand it is because they aren't ready. it isn't always an argumentative thing, i've seen it that a person needed to go through whatever personal experience before any reciprocation could take place. i too am learning how to speak or not, as i interact with a wild array of personality types-

at the same time... i'm no saint and i know i have irritabilities while i interact with others that i'm not understanding. im not willing to sacrifice my well being in order to make others happy but i can try to step back and bring as little friction as possible. i think good intentions outweigh our inability to demonstrate tact or form. it is a practice afterall.
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