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« Reply #285 on: Mar 03, 2021 06:36 pm »

Hmmm slow by slow. My ideal has evolved and changed through the years of this life.
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« Reply #286 on: Mar 04, 2021 05:57 am »

I especially liked todays message:
The soul brings its light from Heaven; the mind acquires its knowledge from earth. Therefore, when the soul believes readily, the mind may still doubt.

     Bowl of Saki, March 3, by Hazrat Inayat Khan

Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan:

Belief is natural, and disbelief is unnatural, for belief is born in man, and unbelief is acquired. ... Every child born on earth is born with a tendency to believe what is told him, but the experience of the individual in this world full of falsehood teaches man to disbelieve. That shows that every soul comes from the world of truth, and opens his eyes in the world of falsehood. Every child comes into the world with that purity of heart whose natural tendency is to believe and later he acquires the tendency to doubt. The Prophet has therefore said: 'Every child is born a believer, it is afterwards that he becomes an unbeliever.' ... For doubt is earth-born and belief is heaven-born.

   ~~~ "Religious Gatheka 42, Belief and Disbelief in God", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished)


The tendency to doubt, to be depressed, the tendency towards fear, suspicion and confusion, the tendency to puzzle -- where does it all come from? It all comes from the thought of getting something in return: 'will another give me back what I have given him? Shall I get the just portion back, or less?' if that is the thought behind one's acts there will be fear, doubt, suspicion, puzzle and confusion. For what is doubt? Doubt is a cloud that stands before the sun, keeping it from shining its light. So is doubt: gathering around the soul it keeps its light from shining out, and man becomes confused and perplexed. Once selflessness is developed, it breaks through the cloud saying, 'What do I care whether anyone appreciates it; I only know to give my service, and that is all my satisfaction. I do not look forward to get it back. I have given and it is finished; this is where my duty ends.' That person is blessed, because he has conquered, he has won.

   from  https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_28.htm


Understanding does not depend upon the head; it depends upon the heart. By the help of the head one can make it more clear, it becomes intelligible and one can express it better. But to begin with it must come from the heart, not from the head. Besides, a person who only uses his head says, 'It must be so because I think it is so', whereas the person who has the heart quality says, 'It is so because I believe it to be so'. That is the difference. In one person there is a doubt, in the other there is conviction. ... Spiritual attainment is nothing but conviction. ... When a person arrives at the stage when the knowledge of reality becomes a conviction, then there is nothing in the world that will change it. And if there is anything to attain to, it is that conviction which one can never find in the outside world; it must rise from the depths of one's own heart.

   from  https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIIIa/VIIIa_4_3.htm



   ~~~ The soul brings its light from the heaven and mind acquires its knowledge on earth, therefore when soul believes readily in a thing the mind doubts. (Notebook 1921)
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« Reply #287 on: Mar 30, 2021 08:19 am »

I think the most difficult thing to know about being absorbed is this; are we absorbed in the Self or the ego? It is often difficult to decipher. Are our thoughts selfish or are they expansive and include others?
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« Reply #288 on: Apr 01, 2021 12:58 pm »

Understanding does not depend upon the head; it depends upon the heart. By the help of the head one can make it more clear, it becomes intelligible and one can express it better. But to begin with it must come from the heart, not from the head. Besides, a person who only uses his head says, 'It must be so because I think it is so', whereas the person who has the heart quality says, 'It is so because I believe it to be so'. That is the difference. In one person there is a doubt, in the other there is conviction. ... Spiritual attainment is nothing but conviction. ... When a person arrives at the stage when the knowledge of reality becomes a conviction, then there is nothing in the world that will change it. And if there is anything to attain to, it is that conviction which one can never find in the outside world; it must rise from the depths of one's own heart.

   from  https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIIIa/VIIIa_4_3.htm

Once experienced belief is incidental. The stronger the experience and the more frequent the more is the motivation to continue on till it is a daily and moment to moment event. I wonder how other people could be cruel once they experience the love of God. And I have yet to understand why God keeps this away from those people who know nothing but turmoil and sadness. Is it that ego would identify with such an experience?
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« Reply #289 on: Apr 01, 2021 04:48 pm »


When one praises the beauty of God, one's soul is filled with bliss.

Bowl of Saki, April 1, by Hazrat Inayat Khan


Commentary by Hazrat Inayat Khan

"Why does God need praise from me? Who am I that I should offer Him praise?" True, we can never praise Him enough; never can our praise be sufficient, but our souls are blessed with the impression of the Glory of God whenever we praise Him. The soul could praise God every moment and yet wanting to praise Him yet more, it is constantly hungering and thirsting to find the Beauty and Perfection of God. By the praise of God the soul is filled with bliss; even to utter the name of God is a blessing that can fill the soul with light, joy and happiness as nothing else can do.

   from  https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/archives/prayer.htm


There is a necessity for praise in prayer, praise of the beauty of God, for man must learn to recognize and praise the beauty of God as manifested in all His creation. In this way he impresses beauty on his soul, and he is able to manifest it in himself, and he becomes the friend of all and is without prejudice. For this reason the Sufi cultivates his heart. The emblem of the Sufi is a heart between two wings, meaning that when the heart is cultivated man can soar up into the heights of heaven.

   from  https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_34.htm


The only secret of attaining happiness is to learn how to appreciate our privileges in life. If we cultivate that sense of appreciation we shall be thankful, we shall be contented and every moment we shall offer our thanks to God, for His gifts are many and enormous. When we do not see them it is because our wants cover our eyes from seeing all with which we are blessed by Providence. No meditation, no study, nothing can help in that direction, except one thing, and that is to keep our eyes open to appreciate every little privilege in life, to admire every glimpse of beauty that comes before us, being thankful for every little love, kindness or affection shown to us by young or old, rich or poor, wise or foolish. In this way, continually developing the faculty of appreciating life and devoting it to thanksgiving, we arrive at a bliss which no words can explain, a bliss which is beyond imagination: the bliss that we find ourselves having already entered the kingdom of God.

   from  https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_39.htm


The two important things in life are the praise of God and the pursuit of God. The praise of God is important, and it gives bliss in life, but it is not the real attainment. The all-important work in life is the attainment of God. God cannot be explained. Any attempt to do this always ends in failure. The knowledge of Him can only be attained in the silence and in solitude, and how to do this cannot be explained better than in the words of the Urdu poet Zahir, 'He who attaineth best the peace of God, his very self must lose.'

   from  https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_38.htm



   ~~~ When one praises the beauty of God, one's soul is filled with bliss.

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« Reply #290 on: Apr 03, 2021 08:32 am »

Sometimes I wonder; isn’t there something also to just praise of beauty and love for its own sake. Or is it more important to associate it with GOD? After all God is Love. At what point does the idea of a God fall away or does it ever fall away? Perhaps our notion and understanding of beauty and the praise associated with it deepens and matures as we grow spiritually.
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« Reply #291 on: Apr 10, 2021 07:15 am »

To me, this is obvious. Of course! Some folks don't call God, God, and yet we find out in the end we are describing the same sensations or experience. And even if they seem entirely different in the moment we find that definition too evolves via experience. Gurunath would say, "Take the word GOD out of the equation" Yet he is the same man who would say, "Always Cry for God!" "God, God, God, God!" See ... ? Inayat Khan is the same. And it is Inayat Khan who agree's that words and descriptions are never enough- As you are already aware Steve- of the SMILING FOREHEAD. A story and lesson for the man who journeyed over the wall and met god. There were no words to express.
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« Reply #292 on: Apr 11, 2021 02:34 am »

“There is a necessity for praise in prayer, praise of the beauty of God, for man must learn to recognize and praise the beauty of God as manifested in all His creation. In this way he impresses beauty on his soul, and he is able to manifest it in himself, and he becomes the friend of all and is without prejudice. For this reason the Sufi cultivates his heart. The emblem of the Sufi is a heart between two wings, meaning that when the heart is cultivated man can soar up into the heights of heaven.”

I see that it is for us as witnesses of the beauty around us to also recognize it within us and praise that depth of understanding that is given to us by grace as we are able to more and more express the beauty and higher frequencies of spiritual awakening.
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« Reply #293 on: May 12, 2021 06:02 pm »


I drink the wine of Thy divine presence and lose myself in its intoxication.


   from  https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/say/vadan_alankaras.htm

There is a wine which the mystic drinks, and that wine is ecstasy. A wine so powerful that the presence of the mystic becomes as wine for everyone who comes into his presence. ... That intoxication is the love which manifests in the human heart. What does it matter, once a mystic has drunk that wine, whether he is sitting amongst the rocks in the wilderness, or in a palace? It is all the same. The palace does not deprive him of the mystic's pleasures, and neither does the rock take them away. He has found the kingdom of God on earth, about which Jesus Christ said, 'Seek ye first the kingdom of God, and all these things shall be added unto you.'

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« Reply #294 on: May 18, 2021 05:59 am »

Love for God is the expansion of the heart, and all actions that come from the lover of God are virtues; they cannot be otherwise.

     Bowl of Saki, May 17, by Hazrat Inayat Khan

Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan:

The Sufi establishes his relationship with God as the relationship between him and the Beloved. His worship of God is the expansion of the heart. His love for all beings and for every being is his love for God. He cannot find anyone to love except God, because he sees God in all. If his love is shown in devotion to parents, to wife, to children if it is shown to neighbors, to a friend or in tolerating enemies, the Sufi considers this as an action of his love towards God. In this way he fulfills in his life the teaching of the Bible, ' We live and move and have our being in God.'

   from  https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_36.htm


Jesus Christ not only told us to love our friends, but also, he went as far as to say we should love our enemies; and the Sufi treads the same path. He considers his charity of heart towards his fellow man to be love for God; and in showing love to everyone, he feels he is giving his love to God.

   from  https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_6.htm


Love for God is the expansion of the heart, and all actions that come from the lover of God are virtues; they cannot be otherwise. There is a different outlook on life when the love of God has filled a man's heart. The lover of God will not hate anyone; for he knows that by doing so he will hate the Creator by hating His creation. He cannot be insincere, he cannot be unfaithful; for he will think that to be faithful and sincere to mankind is to be faithful and sincere to God. You can always trust the lover of God, however impractical or however lacking in cleverness he may appear to be, for simply to hold strongly in mind the thought of God purifies the soul of all bitterness, and gives man a virtue that he could obtain nowhere else and by no other means.

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« Reply #295 on: May 24, 2021 08:31 pm »

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I have found a good sign of evaluating a person’s view is this; those who say do not know and those who know do not say. In simple terms ... those who think they know always have to tell others what’s best for them. But those who do really know need say only little and we listen to every word they say.
~ Steve

Like the 1111 phenomenon, it would appear that a Spirit of Progress has a way to validate certain thoughts that pertain to our personal Understanding and Development. I thought you should see this "1111" synchronicity- which can be experienced through any medium, not just numbers. The 11:11 is a MIRRORING SYMBOL, isn't it?

Here we have the Sufi wisdom, the bowl of Saki, mirroring your most recent statement.


Discussion is for those who say, "What I say is right, and what you say is wrong." A sage never says such a thing hence, there is no discussion.


    Bowl of Saki, May 24, by Hazrat Inayat Khan

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People discuss dogmas, beliefs, and moral principles, as they know them. But there comes a time in a man's life when he has touched truth of which he cannot speak in words; and at that time all dispute, discussion, argument ends.
Taken from, Volume IV - Mental Purification and Healing
Part III: Mental Purification
Chapter XVII
SILENCE
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« Reply #296 on: May 25, 2021 03:05 am »

Only one such as your higher self could offer such wisdom for both of us to take notice of! Discussion can leave you disgusted. Meditation leaves you at peace with one another. The Master’s have kept us together otherwise who would have thought that my simpleminded thoughts could incorporate yours?


Discussion is for those who say, "What I say is right, and what you say is wrong." A sage never says such a thing hence, there is no discussion


    Bowl of Saki, May 24, by Hazrat Inayat Khan

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I love it when Saints and Masters have a sense of humor. It always seems to leave you wondering. It’s like a nugget of truth that has to be digested and is easier to swallow if it has a chocolate covering of humor.

Eric; Thanks for including it here. It may never leave me. It’s easier to remember when you can laugh about something that is really at the same time seriously true.


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« Reply #297 on: May 27, 2021 05:55 am »

You’ll have to try a bowl of it. It beats Kellogg’s Corn Flakes with flying colors!  saki dori ame amori

Eric brought it in from a past life when he cozied up to left wing liberals this life he brought it in for re-freshments..
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« Reply #298 on: May 27, 2021 09:57 pm »

I really like todays message, which kind of summarizes the view point of a Sufi Mystic.



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Everybody's path is for himself. Let everyone achieve the fulfillment of his own desires so as to be able to rise above them to the eternal goal.

There are four different paths recognized as leading to the attainment of that goal. The Yogis call them Hatha Yoga, Raja Yoga, Mantra Yoga, Bhakti Yoga.
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« Reply #299 on: Jun 04, 2021 07:15 pm »

The secret of a friend should be kept as one's own secret; the fault of a friend one should hide as one's own fault.

     Bowl of Saki, June 4, by Hazrat Inayat Khan

Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan:

A very important thing in character-building is to become conscious of one's relationship, obligation, and duty to each person in the world, and not to mix that link and connection which is established between oneself and another with a third person. One must consider that everything that is entrusted to one by any person in life is one's trust, and one must know that to prove true to the confidence of any person in the world is one's sacred obligation. In this manner a harmonious connection is established with everyone; and it is this harmony which attunes the soul to the infinite. ...

Dharma in the language of the Hindus means religion, but the literal meaning of this word is duty. It suggests that one's relation to every person in the world is one's religion; and the more conscientiously one follows it, the more keen one proves in following one's religion. To keep the secret of our friend, our acquaintance, even of someone with whom for a time one has been vexed, is the most sacred obligation. The one who thus realizes his religion would never consider it right to tell another of any harm or hurt he has received from his friend. It is in this way that self-denial is learned; not always by fasting and retiring into the wilderness. ... The one who knows what the relation of friendship is between one soul and another, the tenderness of that connection, its delicacy, its beauty, and its sacredness, that one can enjoy life in its fullness, for he is living; and in this manner he must some day communicate with God. For it is the same bridge that connects two souls in the world, which, once built, becomes the path to God.

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