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« Reply #255 on: Apr 30, 2020 08:27 am »

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« Reply #256 on: Jun 06, 2020 10:49 pm »

   Forbearance, patience and tolerance are the only conditions which keep two individual hearts united.

     Bowl of Saki, June 5, by Hazrat Inayat Khan
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« Reply #257 on: Jun 07, 2020 04:54 am »

   Forbearance, patience and tolerance are the only conditions which keep two individual hearts united.

     Bowl of Saki, June 5, by Hazrat Inayat Khan

Seeing you practicing this inspires a long fruitful relationship to continue to unfold not always understanding but realizing each of us brings a unique perspective in God’s many facets of expression. Unexpected reactions from others sometimes just brings us to the realization that Gods understanding underscores our own definitive approach seeing through the lenses of finite visions.
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« Reply #258 on: Jun 19, 2020 11:22 pm »


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« Reply #260 on: Jul 08, 2020 06:31 pm »

While some judge another from his own moral standpoint, the wise one looks also at the point of view of another.

Bowl of Saki, July 8, by Hazrat Inayat Khan

Commentary by Hazrat Inayat Khan

A mystic removes the barrier that stands between himself and another person by trying to look at life not only from his own point of view, but also from the point of view of another. All disputes and disagreements arise from people's misunderstanding of each other. Mostly, people misunderstand each other because they have their fixed points of view and are not willing to move from them. This is a rigid condition of mind. The more dense a person is, the more fixed he is in his own points of view. Therefore, it is easy to change the mind of an intelligent person, but it is most difficult to change the mind of a foolish person once it is fixed. It is this dense quality of mind which becomes fixed on a certain idea and that clouds the eyes so that they cannot see from the point of view of another person.

   from  https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_2.htm


The condition today is that people are rich, they have all convenience and comfort -- but what is lacking is understanding. Home is full of comfort, but there is no understanding, there is no happiness. It is such a little thing, and yet so difficult to obtain. No intellectuality can give understanding. This is where man makes a mistake: he wants to understand through his head. Understanding comes from the heart. The heart must be glowing, living. When the heart becomes feeling then there is understanding, then you are ready to see from the point of view of another as much as you can see from your own point of view.

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Is it not amusing to think that the foolish person disagrees more with others than the wise? One would think that he knows more than the wise one. The wise one agrees with both the foolish and the wise; he is ready to understand everybody's point of view. It may not be his idea, his way of looking, but he is capable of looking at things from the point of view of others. It is not one eye that sees fully; to make the vision complete two eyes are needed, and so the wise one can see from two points of view. If we do not keep away our own thoughts and preconceived ideas, if we cannot be passive and desirous of seeing from the point of view of another, we make a great mistake.

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« Reply #261 on: Jul 10, 2020 11:11 pm »

This is great! I want to take from it...process it... digest it...make it my own wisdom.

A mystic removes the barrier that stands between himself and another person by trying to look at life not only from his own point of view, but also from the point of view of another. All disputes and disagreements arise from people's misunderstanding of each other. Mostly, people misunderstand each other because they have their fixed points of view and are not willing to move from them. This is a rigid condition of mind. The more dense a person is, the more fixed he is in his own points of view. Therefore, it is easy to change the mind of an intelligent person, but it is most difficult to change the mind of a foolish person once it is fixed. It is this dense quality of mind which becomes fixed on a certain idea and that clouds the eyes so that they cannot see from the point of view of another person.

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« Reply #262 on: Jul 11, 2020 09:02 am »

Do not bemoan the past, do not worry about the future, but try to make the best of today.

Bowl of Saki, July 11, by Hazrat Inayat Khan


Commentary by Hazrat Inayat Khan

There is not anything one should not be ready to tolerate, and there is nobody whom one should not forgive. Never doubt those whom you trust; never hate those whom you love; never cast down those whom you once raise in your estimation. Wish to make friends with everyone you meet; make an effort to gain the friendship of those you find difficult ... No one is either higher or lower than oneself. In all sources that fulfill one's need, one may see one source, God, the only source; and in admiring and in bowing before and in loving anyone, one may consider one is doing it to God. In sorrow one may look to God, and in joy one may thank Him. One does not bemoan the past, nor worry about the future; one tries only to make the best of today. One should know no failure, for even in a fall there is a stepping-stone to rise.

   from  https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_I_2.htm


In Fitzgerald's translation of Omar Khayyam: 'O my Beloved, fill the cup that clears today of past regrets and future fears. Why, tomorrow I may be myself, with yesterday's sev'n thousand years!' By this he means: Make the best of this moment; it is now that you can clearly see eternity, if you live in this moment. But if you keep the world of the past or the world of the future before you, you do not live in eternity but in a limited world. In other words, live neither in the past nor in the future, but in eternity. It is now that we should try to discover that happiness which is to be found in the freedom of the soul.

   from  https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIIIa/VIIIa_1_1.htm



   ~~~ Do not bemoan the past, do not worry about the future, but try to make the best of today.
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« Reply #263 on: Aug 13, 2020 01:21 am »

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Art is much more important than the average person realizes it to be -- despite the saying that 'art is what man makes, and nature is what God makes.' I would prefer to say that nature is what God makes as God, and art is what God makes as man. The artist who has arrived at some perfection in his art, whatever his art may be, will come to realize that it is not he who ever achieved anything; it is someone else who came forward every time. And when the artist produces a perfect thing, he finds it difficult to imagine that it has been produced by him. He can do nothing but bow his head in humility before that unseen power and wisdom which takes his body, his heart, his brain, and his eyes as its instrument. Whenever beauty is produced in art, be it music, or poetry, or painting, or writing, or anything else, one must never think that man produced it. It is through man that God completes His creation.

 
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« Reply #264 on: Aug 13, 2020 10:39 am »

Something to remember when anything of beauty is manifest. Through focus and attention we can be that channel through which God can use us.
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« Reply #265 on: Aug 21, 2020 02:10 am »

The more the self learns, the more it overlooks the evil in others. It does not mean that the evil is not in others; it only means that one finds in oneself the enemy which one was seeing outwardly. And the worst enemy one was faced with in outer life one finds to be in one's own heart. It makes one feel humiliated, but it teaches the true lesson: one finds oneself having the same element which one wishes to resist in another.

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~From Eric as tides to dust

Thanks for the link here Eric. This is quite a long ‘lesson’ and I really wanted to see what you quoted in context. Need to read it all to comment... if I decide it is something to comment about. Usually I have no problems accepting and learning from Hazrat Khan— He  is obviously a great spiritual man. This last one I need to read in context because I cannot see that every one who has seen the evil in tyrants he can also see that same evil in himself. I think most people have the ability to see the evil of tyranny in for instance Adolph Hitler without having to accept that the enemy we were fighting was just the same in ourselves. Hmmmm It was really something that had to be resisted otherwise we would have had a maniacal ruler running our world. As Paramahansa Yogananda said you could use non violence on the British but don’t ever think you could on such people as Hitler. Your non violence would have been met by your easy death.

I need to read the lesson that goes with this quote several times because Hazrat Khan has become quite an inspiration to me over the years due to your bringing his wisdom to us.

P.S. sorry 😐 I made the mistake of modifying your post instead of quoting it and making my own!

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« Reply #266 on: Aug 21, 2020 10:16 am »

Namaste Eric as I said before I need to read the whole link you sent. This is part of what I read;

In the form of anger, passion, greed, or stubbornness one sees evil, and also in the form of deceit and treachery. But the root of evil is one, and that is selfishness. In one person's heart the evil is perhaps manifest on the surface, in another person it is in the depth.

There is a saying in the East, 'Do not invoke the name of Satan or he will rise from his grave.' An inconsiderate or tactless person always falls into the error of awakening this evil even if it is asleep, for he does not know the music of life. In order to live in the world one should become a musician of life. Every person therein is a note, and the one who feels this way has an instrument before him: the whole world is an instrument upon which a symphony is to be played.

~ Hazrat Khan

...”An inconsiderate tactless person always falls into the error of awakening this evil even if it is asleep.”
Sometimes we have said nothing yet an evil person will attack us anyhow. Why is that? And how are we to take the blame and have them attack us with the intention of destroying us or abusing us?

Then the Master goes on to say;

Evil may be likened to fire. The nature of fire is to destroy everything that comes into its fold. The power of evil is as great as the power of fire, and at the same time evil is as weak as fire, for fire does not endure, and so evil does not last. As fire destroys itself, so evil is its own destruction. Why is it said, 'Do not resist evil?' Because resistance gives life to evil, non-resistance lets it burn itself out.

If we did not resist the evil of Adolph Hitler the war would have even been worst when it reached our shores. But we anticipated a psychopath and had no choice but to resist him and put an end to his heartless murder and destruction.
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« Reply #267 on: Aug 22, 2020 07:04 pm »

I found this in your last link Eric;

What education, what point of view, what attitude in life is the best and will give the greatest happiness? It is the attitude of overlooking evil instead of resisting it. There are three ways of living one's life, which can be compared with the struggling in the sea whose waves are rising and falling all the time. The first will struggle as long as life will permit; but the rising and falling of the waves in the sea continue forever and ever, and in the end he will be drowned. And so it is with man. He struggles along, intoxicated by his struggle. How long will it go on? As long as his energy will permit it, and in the end he will be drowned. In this struggle he may seem powerful, he may seem to have overcome others, he may seem to have done things greater than others – but what is it after all? In the end that person is drowned.

There is another man who knows how to move his arms harmoniously in the water, and who has got the rhythm of moving his arms and legs. He swims with the rising and falling of the waves, he is not struggling. This man has a hope of arriving at the port, if only the port is near. If his ideal is not too far off, then he is the one to accomplish it.

The third person is the one who walks above and over the water. It is this which is the meaning of Christ's walking upon the sea. Life is just like waves, it is making its way continually. The one who allows himself to be disturbed by it will be more and more disturbed every day. The one who does not take notice of it will keep the quietness which is his own within himself. The one who sees all things and yet rises above all things is the one who will walk upon the sea.
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« Reply #268 on: Aug 22, 2020 07:19 pm »

that's beautiful! and it seems like it answers your questions too. almost like the spirit of hazrat inayat khan is addressing your concerns.  Smiley
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« Reply #269 on: Aug 22, 2020 08:21 pm »

that's beautiful! and it seems like it answers your questions too. almost like the spirit of hazrat inayat khan is addressing your concerns.  Smiley

Yes dear friend it is something to keep in mind when we see the tides so strong trying to pull us in directions that only disturb the inner peace of ourselves and those around us.
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