Many people think that following the Self Realization Fellowship Path would bring results quickly because of the ‘salesmanship’ promotion given by Paramahansa Yogananda. However Brother Anandamoy painted a different picture of the rigorous path ahead for devotees wanting to progress on the spiritual path.

As an example I remember stories he would give of devotees asking to be disciplined and trained by the Guru. This one is an example;

People ask for the Masters training but then like a rock that is being sculptured and having its true form created: when our Masters’ are working at our ego and it is being chiseled away at we say ‘No, don’t do that it hurts’ or when a chunk of us that is not helpful for our spiritual development is taken away … we cry out to ‘put that piece back please it is painful to have it removed.’

It is not that the Master make the path seem easy or less difficult so much as the fact that few people care to change the way their present attitudes are or their present circumstances. What I have found is that many people who take an interest in meditation are happy with the so called results and claims that a Master can give from meditation, although very few are interested in the training and discipline involved with meditation provided by a Master for his or her disciples.

Paramahansa Yogananda spoke about being a good disciple and while he promoted praying and being of help to others, he especially especially emphasized helping and praying for fellow devotees of Kriya yoga in the SRF lessons.

WASHINGTON (AP) — House Republicans have unveiled the cost-saving centerpiece of President Donald Trump's “big, beautiful bill,” at least $880 billion in cuts largely to Medicaid to help cover the cost of $4.5 trillion in tax breaks.

Tallying hundreds of pages, the legislation revealed late Sunday is touching off the biggest political fight over health care since Republicans tried but failed to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare, during Trump's first term in 2017.

 A preliminary estimate from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said the proposals would reduce the number of people with health care by 8.6 million over the decade. Is this a battle worth fighting? Definitely!

~ yahoo news

We all have battles in life. How do we deal with them? In the best way we know how. Whether we are faced with a battle because it comes to us uninvited or it it is caused by our own actions. Which most likely is all part of our individual karma. But if we see unfairness and insensitivity in our life and do not respond we all take the karma of that inaction with us us as well. And at times we come to an impasse on issues. A space of concern that our actions are no longer serving a useful purpose. When we once again see that they are we will act. Until that time there is nothing wrong with waiting and letting things unfold on their own. Patience and time take care of circumstances as well.

Einstein; a look at life after ‘death’.

https://youtu.be/hn0mhRZ-dk8?si=xlUPcFogfaA_PNlE

“You may be right Brother”.

Thanks you very much Steve for your exhaustive answer. It remains the fact that evidently you have decided to go on with your battle. Unfortunately, if I cannot help you with this battle, I may decide to retire for some time, since it pains me to be an unhelpful witness to this battle.

Mccoy I have responded to your last entry and with a story of an actual event that happened with Paramahansa Yogananda on debates.

It is here on the portal;

Dear Fellow Debaters,

I want you to check out "You may be right” ~ Paramahansa Yogananda on debates" on Spiritual Portal.  To view it, please click this link:

http://spiritualportal.net/index.php?topic=9803.0

A comment has also been added regarding this topic:
“You may be right”

Thanks,
Jitendra Hydonus

In an effort to show my consideration for you brother mccoy I will respond as methodically and objectively as I am able to in response to your points made above and in my present spiritual evolution.

1) Although God has made the possibility we can rise above our subjective bias; It does not mean we have or should assume we have done so.

2) Defeat also happened in the rejection of Trumps policies in 2020 for which he denied and lied about pretending to have won, which resulted in a violent insurrection inspired by his personal denials. The American public is fickle and will continue to change from one election to another. Right now Trump has his lowest poll ratings of any recent U.S. president showing the total failure of his initial promises to the American public that he has failed miserably on.

3) Joseph Stalin Mao and Adolph Hitler were also successful in catalyzing the public does this mean any of them including Fuhrer Trump were or are correct?

4) You have promoted your personal reason logic and rationale, which also portrays your subjective view.

5) You are using the terms of ‘left and right’ to further divide - not bring together - the American people.

6) In the last forum you were part of, you admitted that political causes and disputes were one of the main reasons the forum did not last. I would say we have done a successful job of respecting each other’s differences. Don’t worry 😉 Mccoy Master will help both if us. Even though you may think I have an obsession and problem I need help on: it does not make it so. I suggest you consider that in all our conversations here I have included spiritual lessons involved that have helped one another in our spiritual quest which is the driving force behind all our conversations. Not a political debate as it appears you have arrived at as a conclusion.

7) Number 7 is added to sum up what I see as the most important point of all these numbered remarks from both of us. It is an example of Paramahansa Yogananda’s ability to understand and interpret differences of opinion and perspectives and his way of responding to them.

Once a man came to one of the temples and was convinced he was right about his views. He attempted to persuade the Master he was. The monks around Paramahansa Yogananda thought he was so disgusting and ignorant that he should have been escorted out of the premises. However, on every point the visitor continually attempted to persuade Yogananda that he (the visitor) was right on. Yogananda responded to him that (the visitor)”may be right” and gently also included his view. Finally the visitor left. The monks asked how the Master could put up with such an insolent man. Paramahansa Yogananda had a completely different attitude and told his devotees that they should take inspiration from a man so dedicated to his views. And hoped that the monks would be as dedicated to their spiritual views and practice them.

Mccoy in the same way i commend you on such a loyal servant you are to your views and hope and pray they may lead you to spiritual enlightenment. In no way do I consider myself comparable to the Master and his spiritual attainment as he is and was. However I now understand why he responded in the way he did to the visitor and his example in the debate between the two. Paramahansa Yogananda was indeed a Master in handling people!!

1) I agree that our karma made us prisoners of an individual mind with its biases, but it is also undispitable that God gave us the power to rise over our subjective biases and mental limitations. This is real objectivity, which can be pursued as emanations of God.
2) Comparisons: the real meaning of Trump is not his persona, is mental attitude and his subjective Karma,. the real meaning is how he managed to defeat a dystopic and dysfunctional theory of society supported by the radical leftists. Radical leftists = Biden, Obama, Clinton, and others, so this comparison is inevitable. Sanders and Gabbard have been thrown aside by the radical leftists because they did not want to comply with a disfunctional program to change society and the world. This is the comparison that must be made. Gandhi is not a comparison, Gandhi is a total outlier in his overwhelming coherence and ascetism.
3)Trump has been successful in catalysing the elemtns contrary to the above dysfunctional narrative. In this sense, I beg to totally differ from your thesis. He deserves to be a president, no one else, Gabbard and Kennedy included, have been able to withstand the powerful pressure of the radical leftists.
4) Transgenderism. Per see, this is not a big issue. The big issue is the DEI policy of the radical leftists, that put at risk the function of society itself. People being hired for reasons other than merit, this will disrupt any sate, society, organization. Also, minorities were given the power to prevaricate majorities. Like in biological men competing in women's sports. This is against reason and rationality.
5)I am not supporting a transpresident as you say, I am replying to your being an incessant echo chamber of the radical left. Again, I do not sympathize with this transpresident how you call him, but your attempts to demonize him are having the opposite effects on me, and on the national scale these attempts gave him total victory. So you should blame Biden, Obama, Clinton et cetera, not Mr,. Trump for his present role of president which has been a real gift of the left with their ineptitude.
6) You are still beating around the bush. What is your battle again, and it is rational or futile, it is carried out in this context to change something (futility) or to make yourself happy (self-appeasement)? Or maybe something else which escapes to my limited mental abilities? I would really like to help you here, maybe easing you out of a mental loop, maybe giving suggestions to successfully pursue your battle.