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Title: BIG-HEARTED People
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Feb 05, 2015 07:24 pm
How many people have you met in life who are BIG-HEARTED? They have made a difference in your life because they continued to show they cared, we're willing to listen and we're there when you needed them.


Title: Re: BIG-HEARTED People
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Feb 05, 2015 09:26 pm
I send out love and good will to all here. I cannot make everyone happy but I can wish for their happiness and understanding. There are those with big hearts. They have been their when we needed them. They continued to care and support us thru all our difficulties. i have made that attempt with others.

Many times people will misinterpret our intentions and actions. Many of you have experienced it yourselves. We cannot know someone just because they are in SRF or hold a certain belief. The test of time reveals to us what a person is. Thru time I have found that some people were very kind and it just took a while to learn it. Others were not kind and circumstances proved it. All we can do is continue to show kindness to others. That kindness will be returned in one way or another. This i have seen over many years on the spiritual journey. The love we give is meant for us.


Title: Re: BIG-HEARTED People
Post by: kingfisher111 on Jul 20, 2015 03:08 am
Thanks for being as present and loving as you are Steve.

Being big hearted is quite a challenge, I've found, which brings light to many nooks and crannies sometimes, mainly to those whose minds are focused in the shadows of their own mind... this is a challenge I've found, how to be "big hearted", which seems to be my nature to a large degree, but still be "smart" about when to show it certain ways, and when to protect myself from those who may see big-heartedness as a weakness to take advantage of...  I think the Gurus and Masters reach a point where they have no ego left to attack, they identify with all, including such a "snake-like" individual... to always have an open heart is a totally rewarding process, including in how it shows you how much ego remains (more than a little, in my case), which is humbling and takes courage and determination to continue after such an attack...

A bonobo who has never seen a crocodile might have the instinct to offer it food to show kindness, but this would be totally lost on the crocodile, whose nature is programmed to view the kind monkey as food.  Not a perfect example, and I don't wish to "dwell" in the negative, but perhaps this is just the phase I'm currently at...  wanting to "get back up" and try to give to spirits I haven't met and become close to those worthy, after more than a couple of "let downs" from my past...

I do believe, however, that the world need more Big Hearted people than almost anything else!

As Burt Bacharach said in his song, "What the world needs now is love sweet love"...


Title: Re: BIG-HEARTED People
Post by: mccoy on Jul 20, 2015 11:36 am
... this is a challenge I've found, how to be "big hearted", which seems to be my nature to a large degree, but still be "smart" about when to show it certain ways, and when to protect myself from those who may see big-heartedness as a weakness to take advantage of... 

That's an aspect which unfortunately stands true in this imperfect world, even big-heartedness at times needs to be checked and evaluated...


Title: Re: BIG-HEARTED People
Post by: kingfisher111 on Jul 20, 2015 09:23 pm
personally, I've come to this conclusion:

Everyone deserves love, ALL of our truest selves (even an ISIS terrorist, child molester or politician) are Love.  The great masters, gurus and teachers embody this truth or at least symbolize it to the extent that we see it embodied in their actions and words.

How to SHOW love as me or you to person x, y, mother, father, boyfriend, wife, son, friend, etc. can be different on a case by case basis.  Right now I have a friend who is addicted to heroin.  I've talked to him about it, told him I love him and don't want him to die or get arrested for it or waste his life, etc. , but ultimately the decision is his, and I find it feels more loving to become more distant from him while he is using it, and hanging out with the people who encourage that self-destructive behavior, so I can communicate by my distance my disapproval of this self-destructive behavior.  Of course, if he called and asked for help, I would be there to talk or do what I could to help him.

A more extreme example than that even, let's say someone was very mean to me for no good reason, and it hurt me physically, emotionally and/or mentally.  If I can be my "true self" and not trapped in the ego, I will still love them, but I will love them from a distance.  Being mad at a scorpion or crocodile for stinging, snapping or biting you is stupidity on the part of the victim.  It is it's nature.  But we can love them and respect them for where they are in the evolutionary journey of our Universe, and still recognize them as a brother or sister and show love from a distance.

Fiona Apple has a lyric I love, "We can still support each other, all we have to do is ignore each other".  Sometimes, this is the truest expression of love, on a planet where 99.99999% of all souls are still on the path of learning.

Personally, I do want to seek out more loving, big-hearted or sweet, thoughtful people in person, like this cool website has (:

Much Love to you fellow travellers of the Spiritual Portal!


Title: Re: BIG-HEARTED People
Post by: SpiritImage on Jul 21, 2015 03:58 am
I believe I should love the spirit, all other spirits, as equally as I can.

But their egos, behaviours, actions, personalities, etc., I don't believe I have to love those.

Behind every mean or bothersome ego is the spirit of God. If that ego decides to act like a dolt, the spirit is still there somewhere.


Title: Re: BIG-HEARTED People
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jul 21, 2015 10:46 pm
Thanks for being as present and loving as you are Steve.

Being big hearted is quite a challenge, I've found, which brings light to many nooks and crannies sometimes, mainly to those whose minds are focused in the shadows of their own mind... this is a challenge I've found, how to be "big hearted", which seems to be my nature to a large degree, but still be "smart" about when to show it certain ways, and when to protect myself from those who may see big-heartedness as a weakness to take advantage of...  I think the Gurus and Masters reach a point where they have no ego left to attack, they identify with all, including such a "snake-like" individual... to always have an open heart is a totally rewarding process, including in how it shows you how much ego remains (more than a little, in my case), which is humbling and takes courage and determination to continue after such an attack...

A bonobo who has never seen a crocodile might have the instinct to offer it food to show kindness, but this would be totally lost on the crocodile, whose nature is programmed to view the kind monkey as food.  Not a perfect example, and I don't wish to "dwell" in the negative, but perhaps this is just the phase I'm currently at...  wanting to "get back up" and try to give to spirits I haven't met and become close to those worthy, after more than a couple of "let downs" from my past...

I do believe, however, that the world need more Big Hearted people than almost anything else!

As Burt Bacharach said in his song, "What the world needs now is love sweet love"...

Not everyone i have met feels that way about me. The challenge is to be able to understand the bones that others have to pick with me. i find that it is one of the most difficult aspects of the spiritual life; that is being objective about yourself and to recognize your own faults and shortcomings in life.

i am sure there are people that feel the same way about you... that you are truly loving and present in their lives. i find that the difficulties arise in relationships of all sorts when mutual desires-once satisfied- are now not met and a re-evaluation has to take place because we are not able to satisfy people in the way that they seek. At times we ourselves feel unsatisfied by existing relationships that at one time were quite stimulating. It is then our spiritual responsibility to be kind even though we may not be able to be the same lover or friend we once were able to be for someone.


Title: Re: BIG-HEARTED People
Post by: SpiritImage on Jul 22, 2015 06:51 am
Not everyone i have met feels that way about me.

How do they feel about you? :)

It is then our spiritual responsibility to be kind even though we may not be able to be the same lover or friend we once were able to be for someone.

Yogananda mentions, ...protect the inner kingdom of peace. Whatever it takes each day on the battlefield, that's what must happen.


Title: Re: BIG-HEARTED People
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jul 22, 2015 03:16 pm
Not everyone i have met feels that way about me.

How do they feel about you? :)

It is then our spiritual responsibility to be kind even though we may not be able to be the same lover or friend we once were able to be for someone.

Yogananda mentions, ...protect the inner kingdom of peace. Whatever it takes each day on the battlefield, that's what must happen.


Hey good Counter question. Sometimes we may feel o.k.
about ourselves but we come into contact with others that have quite different values and we have to recognize
that our own views may be quite different. This takes awareness and recognition so our actions are not at cross purposes.


Title: Re: BIG-HEARTED People
Post by: SpiritImage on Jul 23, 2015 05:59 am
Sometimes we may feel o.k. about ourselves but we come into contact with others that have quite different values and we have to recognize that our own views may be quite different.

I wonder if we should let ourselves be so affected by that?


Title: Re: BIG-HEARTED People
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Aug 08, 2015 05:13 am
Kingfisher i thought this quote from P.Y. applies to some of the things u are talking about so i wanted to put it here. It is probably the best quote i ever read by yogananda ; for me at least.....

"Unless there is a relativity of vibration there cannot be cognizance of any vibration in the universe. Do you realize how much that statement explains? Anything of what you are cognizant has a relative vibration within yourself. One who is quick to judge evil in other persons has the seed of that evil within himself. The Godlike person of high vibrational tone is always aware of the God-spark in all he contacts, and his magnetic soul vibration draws to greater intensity that vibrational force in those who come within his vibrational range. Everything in creation has a different rate of vibration. The different rates of vibration balanced in the cosmic rhythm produce before us the majestic cosmos."

Why is that quote so important? Because it describes why we have created the reality we witness. It also describes why it is important to surround ourselves with the vibrations of high frequency souls...." The Godlike person of high vibrational tone is always aware of the God-sparks in all he contacts. His soul vibration draws to greater intensity that vibrational force in those who come within his vibrational range."


Title: Re: BIG-HEARTED People
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Aug 17, 2015 09:04 am
Sometimes we may feel o.k. about ourselves but we come into contact with others that have quite different values and we have to recognize that our own views may be quite different.

I wonder if we should let ourselves be so affected by that?

SpiritImage;

It most cases no. But it is important to realize someone else may have a totally different take on things. They may even feel that we are trying to harm them because of their different values.


Title: Re: BIG-HEARTED People
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Aug 18, 2015 09:15 pm
personally, I've come to this conclusion:

A more extreme example than that even, let's say someone was very mean to me for no good reason, and it hurt me physically, emotionally and/or mentally.  If I can be my "true self" and not trapped in the ego, I will still love them, but I will love them from a distance.  Being mad at a scorpion or crocodile for stinging, snapping or biting you is stupidity on the part of the victim.  It is it's nature.  But we can love them and respect them for where they are in the evolutionary journey of our Universe, and still recognize them as a brother or sister and show love from a distance.

Fiona Apple has a lyric I love, "We can still support each other, all we have to do is ignore each other".  Sometimes, this is the truest expression of love, on a planet where 99.99999% of all souls are still on the path of learning.

Personally, I do want to seek out more loving, big-hearted or sweet, thoughtful people in person, like this cool website has (:

Much Love to you fellow travellers of the Spiritual Portal!

One of the most difficult experiences i have had with relationships is to recognize that there are people who claim to be spiritual seekers who are actually very mean people. They may have treated you quite well at one point in your life but if their present life does not seem to need you; they can actually turn on you. This is treachery in friendship but is out there my friend. It is best to compare notes and realize we are not always surrounded by kind forces. Thanks Art....This really makes sense; "we can love them and respect them for where they are in the evolutionary journey of our Universe, and still recognize them as a brother or sister and show love from a distance."

We should be very grateful though, for the kind forces that are with us and should continually cultivate them.

Steve Hydonus


Title: Re: BIG-HEARTED People
Post by: SpiritImage on Aug 19, 2015 04:48 am
Thinking about those who had a go at you again? Me I can't lose sleep over it.