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Title: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Oct 07, 2010 09:29 pm It is a very high stage on the path of love when a man really learns to love another with a love that asks no return.
Bowl of Saki, October 7, by Hazrat Inayat Khan http://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date_pic.php Quote Origins of "The Bowl of Saki" and the Daily Commentary Background: The title The Bowl of Saki was chosen around 1921 by students of Hazrat Inayat Khan who published a book containing some of the inspiring phrases that they had been given by their teacher. The first edition of The Bowl of Saki was published in England in late 1921 or early 1922. The Bowl of Saki is a compendium of 366 brief quotations, one for each day of the year, selected from the teachings of Hazrat Inayat Khan. Many of the quotes came directly from his lectures, while others came from his personal notebooks. In the December 1921 edition of the quarterly publication "Sufism", the new book was announced as: "a collection of some of the most striking and arresting sayings of Pir-o-Murshid, arranged in the form of a daily textbook" from Complete Works of Pir-o-Murshid Hazrat Inayat Khan, Original Texts: Sayings, Part II Quote The Word Saki: http://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_origins.htmThe Arabic word sāqī ساقی (also written as saqi or saki) literally means wine-server or wine-pourer and is frequently used in Persian poetry to describe the glorious Server who continually pours out the wine everlasting to all of mankind, while implying that only a completely empty bowl is truly ready to be filled with such a fine wine. For the Sufi, the greatest task of life is to become empty enough, selfless enough, to be a suitable receptacle for the wine which the Sāqī pours. In some cases, the word sāqī may be used as a reference to a specific spiritual teacher, but in the grand scheme of things, a spiritual teacher is merely a worldly symbol for the presence of the Beloved, the One and Only One. Some say that in order to be grammatically correct, the title should have been written as "The Bowl of the Sāqī," but frankly that title is rather clumsy and lacks poetry... so, perhaps the present title The Bowl of Saki was never intended to be grammatically correct, but may instead be a playful bit of British humor that intertwines the mystical Persian imagery with the thought of the oriental rice wine that has a similar sounding name. It is doubtful that we will ever know exactly how the book title The Bowl of Saki was created, but really the more important matter is to understand the deep significance of the word sāqī and of the bowl, which might also be called a cup, or chalice. The the term "The Bowl of Saki" is explained in a slightly different context in the following words of Hazrat Inayat Khan discussing the power of the mystical glance: Besides its precious work, which makes the eye superior to every other organ of the body, it is the expression of the beauty of body, mind and soul. Sufis, therefore, symbolize the eye by a cup of wine. Through the eyes, the secret hidden in man's heart is reflected into the heart of another. However much a person may try to conceal his secret, yet the reader can read it in his eyes, and can read there his pleasure, his displeasure, his joy, and his sorrow. A seer can see still farther. The seer can see the actual condition of man's soul through his eyes, his grade of evolution, his attitude in life, his outlook on life, and his condition, both hidden and manifest. Besides, to the passive soul of a disciple, knowledge, ecstasy, spiritual joy, and divine peace, all are given through the glance. One sees in everyday life that a person who is laughing in his mind with his lips closed can express his laughter through his glance, and the one who receives the glance at once catches the infectious mirth. Often the same happens through looking in the eyes of the sorrowful, in a moment one becomes filled with depression. And those whose secret is God, whose contemplation is the perfection of beauty, whose joy is endless in the realization of everlasting life, and from whose heart the spring of love is ever flowing, it is most appropriate that their glance should be called, symbolically, the Bowl of Saki, the Bowl of the Wine-Giver. from The Sufi Message of Hazrat Inayat Khan, Volume XIII, Naqshi Bandi, The Glance Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Oct 12, 2010 10:38 pm Seek Him in all souls, good or bad, wise and foolish, attractive and unattractive; in the depths of each there is God.
Bowl of Saki, October 12, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Quote As fruit ripens in the course of nature, so it is in the course of nature that the soul should mature; and it is no use being disappointed or disheartened about ourselves and about those near and dear to us, worrying because our husband, ...wife, father, or mother does not look at spiritual matters in the same way as we do. In the first place no man, however wise or pious, has the right to judge another soul. Who knows what is hidden behind every action, appearance, speech, and manner? No one. And when a person begins to know what is hidden in the human soul, in spite of all deluding appearances he will have respect, a respect for mankind, as he realizes that in the depth of every soul is He whom one worships. Quote Man swimming in the sea does not know the fish living in the sea, so we living in God do not recognize all souls living in God also. He is all around and about us at every moment, we are living His life, we are breathing His breath, and yet we are ignorant of the perfection of beauty which unites and inspires every soul. :) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Oct 17, 2010 11:57 pm Mysticism to the mystic is both science and religion.
Bowl of Saki, October 17, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Quote What we generally know as the breath is that little inhaling and exhaling which we feel through the nostrils. We think that is breath and attach little importance to it, while in reality, breath is a life-current running through the innermost part of man's being towards the surface. It would be no exaggeration, according to the mystical point of view, to say that the breath connects heaven and earth. ... For the mystic, breath is not only a science, but the knowledge of breath is mysticism, and mysticism to the thinker is both science and religion. The mystery of breath is not a thing that can be comprehended by the brain only. The principles of mysticism rise from the heart of man. They are learned by intuition and proved by reason. ... If we consider the conditions of life today, we see that, however much man thinks he has progressed, certain aspects of life are neglected in the way of health, repose, balanced thinking, and in the way of kindness and love to one another. All these things are lacking, and the spirit of the present time seems to be going in quite the opposite direction. Selfishness seems to be so much on the increase. Real religion, the spirit of forgiveness, generous giving, regard for old age, refinement, culture -- all seem to be disappearing. Man in general, does not know even if there is a God or Truth. If this is the spirit, how can we expect to find that harmony, peace and love, which make heaven on earth? It is useless to discuss the peace of the world. What is necessary just now is to create peace in ourselves that we, ourselves, become examples of love, harmony and peace. That is the only way of saving the world and ourselves. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_1_17.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Dec 26, 2010 09:36 pm Love is unlimited, but it needs scope to expand and rise; without that scope, life is unhappy.
Bowl of Saki, December 26, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Quote A person who lives in happy surroundings with luxuries and sources of pleasure and comfort, may be envied and imagined to be a very happy and lucky man. In reality, however, he may be very unhappy. The external world has given him all he wished for, but the inner world, the inner being, is unhappy. There is something absent, and he wants it to be present. There is something missing inwardly. This shows that the inner presence is required. The external presence is not the only comfort. But we may ask, the inner presence of what? Many will say, 'We know we are unhappy sometimes in spite of wealth, comfort, happiness, friends, or beloved.' But, perhaps they will not believe that it is another lack, the lack of a divine ideal that makes them unhappy. Others consider that life requires scope for progress, and that it is the lack of scope that causes the greatest unhappiness. Such persons think that they cannot prosper in the work that they are doing, that they cannot be any better off than the others. Such a thought is worse than death. Life is unlimited, and it wants scope to expand and rise. Without that scope life is unhappy. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_31.htm Every kind of power lies in this one thing which we call by the simple name: love. Charity, generosity, kindness, affection, endurance, tolerance, and patience -- all these words are different aspects of one; they are different names of only one thing: love. Whether it is said, 'God is love,' or whatever name is given to it, all the names are the names of God; and yet every form of love, every name for love, has its own peculiar scope, has a peculiarity of its own. Love as kindness is one thing, love as tolerance is another, love as generosity is another, love as patience another; and yet from beginning to end it is just love. ... True love must have free flow; and to learn that free flow the teachers have taught us first to love from the limited, and thence to advance in love till we attain to the love of God, the Unlimited. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_9.htm :) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Dec 26, 2010 10:21 pm Love is unlimited, but it needs scope to expand and rise; without that scope, life is unhappy. Bowl of Saki, December 26, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Quote Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan :)A person who lives in happy surroundings with luxuries and sources of pleasure and comfort, may be envied and imagined to be a very happy and lucky man. In reality, however, he may be very unhappy. The external world has given him all he wished for, but the inner world, the inner being, is unhappy. There is something absent, and he wants it to be present. There is something missing inwardly. This shows that the inner presence is required. The external presence is not the only comfort. But we may ask, the inner presence of what? Many will say, 'We know we are unhappy sometimes in spite of wealth, comfort, happiness, friends, or beloved.' But, perhaps they will not believe that it is another lack, the lack of a divine ideal that makes them unhappy. Others consider that life requires scope for progress, and that it is the lack of scope that causes the greatest unhappiness. Such persons think that they cannot prosper in the work that they are doing, that they cannot be any better off than the others. Such a thought is worse than death. Life is unlimited, and it wants scope to expand and rise. Without that scope life is unhappy. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_31.htm Every kind of power lies in this one thing which we call by the simple name: love. Charity, generosity, kindness, affection, endurance, tolerance, and patience -- all these words are different aspects of one; they are different names of only one thing: love. Whether it is said, 'God is love,' or whatever name is given to it, all the names are the names of God; and yet every form of love, every name for love, has its own peculiar scope, has a peculiarity of its own. Love as kindness is one thing, love as tolerance is another, love as generosity is another, love as patience another; and yet from beginning to end it is just love. ... True love must have free flow; and to learn that free flow the teachers have taught us first to love from the limited, and thence to advance in love till we attain to the love of God, the Unlimited. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_9.htm I found these entries very helpful to me and some friends. i hope to find time to read the link as well. Thanks for highlighting the link. In particular this quote makes me respond: Whether it is said, 'God is love,' or whatever name is given to it, all the names are the names of God; and yet every form of love, every name for love, has its own peculiar scope, has a peculiarity of its own. When we are on this path towards love we see that every other path, whether slow or fast as it may seem, is a path to that love. It is much better to be conscious of the path we are taking and to find the fastest route for our aspirations. The only way that i know to gauge this is to assess the people, situations and circumstances that come into our lives and the long term affects on our consciousness to express the love we have gained through these conditions. That which is inimical to this process is what we should avoid as much as possible. Jitendra Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: flying squirrel on Jan 04, 2011 08:42 am always thought Saki was a drink, rice wine perhaps ? 8)
got it now ! drink the wine of wisdom all we need is love, love, love Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jan 06, 2011 12:13 am No one has seen God and lived. To see God we must be non-existent. Bowl of Saki, January 5, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Quote There is a [Hadith] which says: Mutu kubla anta mutu, which means, 'Die before death.' A poet says, 'Only he attains to the peace of the Lord who loses himself.' God said to Moses, 'No man shall see me and live.' To see God we must be non-existent. What does all this mean? It means that when we see our being with open eyes, we see that there are two aspects to our being: the false and the true. The false life is that of the body and mind, which only exists as long as the life is within. In the absence of that life the body cannot go on. We mistake the true life for the false, and the false for the true. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_26.htm As life unfolds itself to man the first lesson it teaches is humility; the first thing that comes to man's vision is his own limitedness. The vaster God appears to him, the smaller he finds himself. This goes on and on until the moment comes when he loses himself in the vision of God. In terms of the Sufis this is called fana, and it is this process that was taught by Christ under the name of self-denial. Often man interprets this teaching wrongly and considers renunciation as self-denial. He thinks that the teaching is to renounce all that is in the world. But although that is a way and an important step which leads to true self-denial, the self-denial meant is the losing oneself in God. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_7.htm The first lesson of the mystic is, "Thou art, and not I." It is not only complete surrender to God, it is self-effacement. And what does the symbol of the cross explain? That "Thou art, not me, my hands are not for me, my feet are not for me, my head is not for me, they are all Thine." The saying of the [Hadith], "Die before death," does not mean suicide, it means the death of the "I", the separate self. ~~~ "Supplementary Papers, Mysticism VI", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) http://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.php Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jan 06, 2011 09:07 pm No one has seen God and lived. To see God we must be non-existent. Bowl of Saki, January 5, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Quote There is a [Hadith] which says: Mutu kubla anta mutu, which means, 'Die before death.' A poet says, 'Only he attains to the peace of the Lord who loses himself.' God said to Moses, 'No man shall see me and live.' To see God we must be non-existent. What does all this mean? It means that when we see our being with open eyes, we see that there are two aspects to our being: the false and the true. The false life is that of the body and mind, which only exists as long as the life is within. In the absence of that life the body cannot go on. We mistake the true life for the false, and the false for the true. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_26.htm As life unfolds itself to man the first lesson it teaches is humility; the first thing that comes to man's vision is his own limitedness. The vaster God appears to him, the smaller he finds himself. This goes on and on until the moment comes when he loses himself in the vision of God. In terms of the Sufis this is called fana, and it is this process that was taught by Christ under the name of self-denial. Often man interprets this teaching wrongly and considers renunciation as self-denial. He thinks that the teaching is to renounce all that is in the world. But although that is a way and an important step which leads to true self-denial, the self-denial meant is the losing oneself in God. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_7.htm The first lesson of the mystic is, "Thou art, and not I." It is not only complete surrender to God, it is self-effacement. And what does the symbol of the cross explain? That "Thou art, not me, my hands are not for me, my feet are not for me, my head is not for me, they are all Thine." The saying of the [Hadith], "Die before death," does not mean suicide, it means the death of the "I", the separate self. ~~~ "Supplementary Papers, Mysticism VI", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) http://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.php Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan inspires non verbal communication and solitude; finding that peace within. Steve Hydonus Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Serena Duvet on Jan 08, 2011 03:44 am No one has seen God and lived. To see God we must be non-existent.
Bowl of Saki, January 5, by Hazrat Inayat Khan[/i] Timeless! Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Mar 12, 2011 09:21 am Man sees what he sees; beyond it he cannot see.
Bowl of Saki, March 11, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Quote When an ordinary or an illiterate person meets a poet, he sees the man-part and not the poet-part. But if he is told that this person is a poet he may see the poet-part when he meets him. He now sees that he is a poet in his actions and in his words; in everything about him he sees the poet, whereas otherwise he would not have been able to see this. Thus a great poet may go among a crowd and the people will only see the man in him; they do not see the poet, and they do not know how profound his thoughts are. So once a person begins to recognize God in man he does not see the man any more but God. The man is the surface, while God is deep within him. Such recognition brings a person into touch with everyone's innermost being, and then he knows more about people than they know themselves. ... Divine perfection is perfection in all powers and mysteries. All these are manifested without specially striving for them. Perfection and annihilation is that stage where there is no longer 'I' and no longer 'you', where there is what there is. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XII/XII_I_12.htm http://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.php Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Mar 26, 2011 09:34 pm Man is closer to God than the fishes are to the ocean.
Bowl of Saki, March 26, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Quote One day Inayat was praying on the roof of the house, offering his prayers and he thought to himself that there had not been an answer yet to all the prayers he had offered to God and he did not know where God was to hear his prayers and he could not reconcile himself to going on praying to the God whom he knew not. He went fearlessly to his father and said: "I do not think I will continue my prayers any longer, for it does not fit in with my reason. I do not know how I can go on praying to a God I do not know." His father, taken aback, did not become cross lest he might turn Inayat's beliefs sour by forcing them upon him without satisfying his reason and he was glad on the other hand to see that, although it was irreverent on the child's part, yet it was frank, and he knew that the lad really hungered after Truth and was ready to learn now, what many could not learn in their whole life. He said to him: "God is in you and you are in God. As the bubble is in the ocean and the bubble is a part of the ocean and yet not separate from the ocean. For a moment it has appeared as a bubble, then it will return to that from which it has risen. So is the relation between man and God. The Prophet has said that God is closer to you than the jugular vein, which in reality means that your own body is farther from you than God is. If this be rightly interpreted, it will mean that God is the very depth of your own being." This moment to Inayat was his very great initiation, as if a switch had turned in him, and from that moment onward his whole life Inayat busied himself, and his whole being became engaged in witnessing in life what he knew and believed, by this one great Truth. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/bio/Biography_9.htm The innermost being of man is the real being of God; man is always linked with God. If he could only realize it, it is by finding harmony in his own soul that he finds communion with God. All meditation and contemplation are taught with this purpose: to harmonize one's innermost being with God, so that He is seeing, hearing, thinking through us, and our being is a ray of His light. In that way we are even closer to God than the fishes are to the ocean in which they have their being. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_1.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: flying squirrel on Mar 26, 2011 09:39 pm hey little1 ! 8)
thanx for sharing the Bowl of Saki writings ! Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: yoshi on Mar 26, 2011 10:21 pm thank you ((( little1 ))) for sharing with us :)
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 27, 2011 05:04 am by Hazrat Inayat Khan The innermost being of man is the real being of God; man is always linked with God. If he could only realize it, it is by finding harmony in his own soul that he finds communion with God. All meditation and contemplation are taught with this purpose: to harmonize one's innermost being with God, so that He is seeing, hearing, thinking through us, and our being is a ray of His light. Thanks for the contribution Eric. Every once in a while i get these glimpses but that is the goal; 'to harmonize one's innermost being with God, so that He is seeing, hearing, thinking through us, and our being is a ray of His light.' Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Apr 04, 2011 03:10 am Life is a misery for the man absorbed in himself.
Bowl of Saki, April 3, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Quote The more living the heart, the more sensitive it is; but that which causes sensitiveness is the love-element in the heart, and love is God. The person whose heart is not sensitive is without feeling; his heart is not living, it is dead. In that case the divine Spirit is buried in his heart. A person who is always concerned with his own feelings is so absorbed in himself that he has no time to think of another. His whole attention is taken up with his own feelings. He pities himself, he worries about his own pain, and is never open to sympathize with others. He who takes notice of the feelings of another person with whom he comes in contact, practices the first essential moral of Sufism. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_3.htm A person who, alone, has seen something beautiful, who has heard something harmonious, who has tasted something delicious, who has smelt something fragrant, may have enjoyed it, but not completely. The complete joy is in sharing one's joy with others. For the selfish one who enjoys himself and does not care for others, whether he enjoys things of the earth or things of heaven, his enjoyment is not complete. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_29.htm When a person is absorbed in himself, he has no time for character-building, because he has no time to think of others: then there is no other. But when he forgets himself, he has time to look here and there, to collect what is good and beautiful, and to add it naturally to his character. So the character is built. One need not make an effort to build it, one has only to forget oneself. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_2.htm Every step in evolution makes life more valuable. The more evolved you are, the more priceless is every moment; it becomes an opportunity for you to do good to others, to serve others, to give love to others, to be gentle to others, to give your sympathy to souls who are longing and hungering for it. Life is miserable when a person is absorbed in himself; as soon as he forgets himself he is happy. The more he thinks of himself, his own affairs, work and interests, the less he knows the meaning of life. When a person looks at another he cannot at the same time look at himself. Illness, disappointments and hardships matter very little when one can look at them from a higher standpoint. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_1.htm http://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.php Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Lucky Denver on Apr 04, 2011 04:42 am Thank you my friend :) Indeed, we hear it all the time, and yet the message can not be repeated or stressed enough about giving and selflessness.
One sentence that got me thinking in particular: Quote For the selfish one who enjoys himself and does not care for others, whether he enjoys things of the earth or things of heaven, his enjoyment is not complete. The part that says "whether he enjoys things of earth or things of heaven" got me thinking of a selfishness that is sometimes overlooked. We all have experienced or known someone who has experienced a selfish love of the things of the earth; some sort of material joy or worldly attachment. But I have also seen such a thing as a "spiritual" selfishness: a love of things of heaven or spiritual nature, but only with concern for the development and spirituality of the self. Indeed, there are those out there who look at ascension and higher consciousness as the goal, and yet they have no place or concern for others in those plans; they see their spiritual journey as only regarding themselves. Indeed, enjoyment is not complete without sharing and care for others! Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Apr 12, 2011 08:22 pm The ideal of God is a bridge connecting the limited life with the unlimited; whosoever travels over this bridge passes safely from the limited to the unlimited life.
Bowl of Saki, April 12, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Quote There is a side in man's being - call it spirit - which remains unsatisfied with all that one has attained in one's lifetime. The satisfaction of the spirit, which is the deepest being of man, lies only in the pursuit of the ideal. With all progress that humanity makes, idealism neglected will show at each step towards progress a great lack, and nothing can substitute that lack. If there is anything that fills the gap, if there is anything that makes a bridge between God and man, it is the ideal. http://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.php~~~ "The Message Papers, The Message", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) An ideal is something to hope for and to hold on to, and in the absence of an ideal hope has nothing to look forward to. It is the lack of idealism which accounts for the present degeneration of humanity in spite of all the progress it has made in other directions. There are many kinds of ideals: principles, virtues, objects of devotion; but the greatest and highest of all ideals is the God-ideal. And when this God-ideal upon which all other ideals are based is lost, then the very notion of ideal is ignored. Man needs many things in life, but his greatest need is an ideal. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_9.htm If a man is standing on a staircase and remains on the first step, he may be a believer but he is not going up. Thus there are many believers who have a certain conception of God, but they are standing there without moving, while perhaps a person who has no conception of God at all may be moving. There are thousands of people who pronounce the name of God many times during the day, but who are perhaps most wretched. The reason is that they have not yet discovered the purpose of the God-ideal. It is not merely belief; belief is only the first step. God is the key to truth, God is the stepping-stone to self-realization, God is the bridge which unites the outer life with the inner life, bringing about perfection. It is by understanding this that the secret of the God-ideal is to be realized. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_9.htm The God-ideal is so tremendous that men can never comprehend it fully, therefore the best method adopted by the wise is to allow every man to make his own God. In this way he forms whatever conception he is capable of forming. He makes Him King of the heavens and of the earth; he makes Him judge, greater than all judges; he makes Him Almighty, having all power; he makes Him the possessor of all grace and glory; he makes Him the beloved God, merciful and compassionate; he recognizes in Him providence, support, and protection; and in Him he recognizes all perfection. This ideal becomes a stepping-stone to the higher knowledge of God. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_9.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Lucky Denver on Apr 13, 2011 01:53 am My dear friend, thank you once again for posting these and keeping our Bowl of Saki full. I always get excited when I see a new post here, as the messages are always riveting universal sentiments of truth and wisdom.
Particularly loved this quote today: Quote The God-ideal is so tremendous that men can never comprehend it fully, therefore the best method adopted by the wise is to allow every man to make his own God. In this way he forms whatever conception he is capable of forming. I could not agree more and this is what I hope to be able to teach someone in my short time here. People lose sight of the God-ideal because it is not their own. They are content to blindly trust what someone ELSE says is at the top of those stairs, whether it is their friend, parent, rabbi, priest, guru, or whoever.. they are told to stay on the first step of that staircase and ponder about, read about, and "just have faith" about where it leads but they are never really told to GO there. It is sadly all too common that people forget and actually forsake the individual relationship with God for chasing and following what someone else presents as the God-ideal. Allah is not just around us but is a part of us, a part that is unique and individual and sacred to every one of us. The only one on this Earth who can bring you to know that part is you, so never settle for taking someone's "word for it" because nobody has the understanding or the right to define your unique one-and-only relationship with Him. Good day and sweetest blessings to all!!!!! Love Lucky Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Apr 17, 2011 08:33 am It is the surface of the sea that makes waves and roaring breakers; the depth is silent.
Bowl of Saki, April 17, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Quote The bubbles are to be found on the surface of the sea. The depth of the sea is free from bubbles. The commotion is to be seen on the surface, the depth of the sea is still. The mind is the commotion of that something that is within us, that something which we call heart. The happiness, knowledge, pleasure and love that is stored in our innermost being is in our profound depth. Changing emotions and passions, dreams, ever-rising thoughts and imaginations, all belong to the surface, as the bubbles belong to the surface of the sea. http://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.php?month=4&day=17from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/II/II_41.htm To attain peace, what one has to do is to seek that rhythm which is in the depth of our being. It is just like the sea: the surface of the sea is ever moving; the depth of the sea is still. And so it is with our life. If our life is thrown into the sea of activity, it is on the surface. We still live in the profound depths, in that peace. But the thing is to become conscious of that peace which can be found within ourselves. It is this which can bring us the answer to all our problems. If not, when we want to solve one problem, there is another difficult problem coming. There is no end to our problems. There is no end to the difficulties of the outer life. And if we get excited over them, we shall never be able to solve them. Some think, 'We might wait. Perhaps the conditions will become better. We shall see then what to do.' But when will the conditions become better? They will become still worse! Whether the conditions become better or worse, the first thing is to seek the kingdom of God within ourselves, in which there is our peace. As soon as we have found that, we have found our support, we have found our self. And in spite of all the activity and movement on the surface, we shall be able to keep that peace undisturbed if only we hold it fast by becoming conscious of it. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_IV_6.htm Spiritual knowledge is nothing but this: that there is a constant longing in the heart of man to have something of its origin, to experience something of its original state, the state of peace and joy which has been disturbed, and yet is sought after throughout its whole life, and never can cease to be sought after until the real source has at length been realized. What was it in the wilderness that gave peace and joy? What was it that came to us in the forest, the solitude? In either case it was nothing else but the depth of our own life, which is silent like the depths of the great sea, so silent and still. It is the surface of the sea that makes waves and roaring breakers; the depth is silent. So the depth of our own being is silent also. And this all-pervading, unbroken, inseparable, unlimited, ever-present, omnipotent silence unites with our silence like the meeting of flames. Something goes out from the depths of our being to receive something from there, which comes to meet us; our eyes cannot see and our ears cannot hear and our mind cannot perceive because it is beyond mind, thought, and comprehension. It is the meeting of the soul and the Spirit. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_4.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Lucky Denver on Apr 17, 2011 10:25 am Eric my friend;
Thank you once again for sharing. I LOVE these! And may you all, my kindred spirits here, find the depths of the sea, the still of the mind, the peace in your heart. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on May 15, 2011 12:12 pm He who is looking for a reward is smaller than his reward; he who has renounced a thing has risen above it.
Bowl of Saki, May 15, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Quote When doing a kindness to others the first thing that must be considered is that it should be unselfish, and not for the sake of appreciation or a reward. He who does good and waits for a reward is a laborer of good; but he who does good and disregards it is the master of good. http://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.phpfrom http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_III_3.htm Life consists of a continual struggle for gain, of whatever kind it may be. Gain seems to be the purpose of life... But by a still deeper insight into the subject one sees that every gain a person has in view limits him to a certain extent to that gain, directs his activities into a certain channel, and forms the line of his fate. At the same time it deprives him of a still greater or a better gain and of the freedom of activity which might perhaps accomplish something still better. It is for this reason that renunciation is practiced by the Sufis; for with every willing renunciation a person proceeds a step towards a higher goal. No renunciation is ever fruitless. The one who is looking for a gain is smaller than his gain; the one who has renounced a thing has risen above it. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_III_5.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on May 23, 2011 03:12 am The perfect life is following one's own ideal, not in checking those of others; leave everyone to follow his own ideal.
Bowl of Saki, May 22, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Quote Religion in the East is not made into a thing apart from one's life, as in the West where business, profession, and other things on the one side of life, and going to church one day in the week on the other side, together constitute religion, with a prayer before going to rest. But, strictly speaking, life is religion. When one has that ideal before one with whatever occupation one is concerned, business, industry, domestic life, or whatever it is, one carries it out, trying to be worthy of it, that is religion. http://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.phpIn the Hindu language, the same word, Dharma, means both duty and religion. Both are expressed by one word. 'This is your Dharma' means: 'This is your faith.' How beautiful the thought is! Whatever kind of duty it is, so long as you have an ideal before you and are performing that duty, you are walking in the path of religion. We, with our narrowness of faith or belief, accuse others of belonging to another religion, another chapel or church. We say, 'This temple is better, that faith is better.' The whole world has kept on fighting and devastating itself just because it can not understand that each form of religion is peculiar to itself. Therefore, the ideal life is in following one's own ideal. It is not in checking other people's ideals. If a certain thing is one's ideal, that does not mean that another person will agree that it is best to offer prayers ten times a day. He may be doing better by following his religion in his shop than by going to a mosque and offering up a prayer twenty times a day. Perhaps somebody with that ideal cannot see that the other person's way is an ideal also. Leave everyone to follow his own ideal. ... We see now that it is all a matter of his ideal whether a man differs from his neighbor, whether he is heavenly or earthly, as high as the Devas, the heavenly beings, or as low as the demons. His ideal makes him as high as the one, or as low as the demons. The greatness of man lies in the greatness of his ideal. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on May 23, 2011 10:15 am It is a strange thing to me how our ideals seem to change in life. This a result of time and experience.
Jitendra Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on May 23, 2011 07:44 pm it is natural
not strange Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on May 24, 2011 06:20 am to me it is a natural occurrence not strange My little lotus blossom in the spring. There is nothing stranger than being me. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest58 on May 24, 2011 06:22 am to me it is a natural occurrence not strange My little lotus blossom in the spring. There is nothing stranger than being me. You can say that again! Alfie Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Laughing Goose on May 24, 2011 06:24 am to me it is a natural occurrence not strange My little lotus blossom in the spring. There is nothing stranger than being me. Even a quacking goose who misses my friend endless squirrel could tell you that. You can say that again! Alfie O.K. I will then. There is nothing stranger than being him! Laughing Goose Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Beatrice Landcaster on May 24, 2011 06:27 am to me it is a natural occurrence not strange My little lotus blossom in the spring. There is nothing stranger than being me. You can say that again! Alfie O.K. I will then. There is nothing stranger than being him! Laughing Goose Hey ya al' Did I hear an echo or was that squirrel matting down his fur? Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Laughing Goose on May 24, 2011 06:35 am to me it is a natural occurrence not strange My little lotus blossom in the spring. There is nothing stranger than being me. You can say that again! Alfie O.K. I will then. There is nothing stranger than being him! Laughing Goose Hey ya al' Did I hear an echo or was that squirrel matting down his fur? Even a quacking goose who misses my friend endless squirrel could tell you that. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: flying squirrel on May 24, 2011 09:54 am Strangest thing happened on the way to the forum ....
I was enjoying a sip of saki, yeah the rice wine spilt it all over, me and everything around me :o but all of a sudden, there was a moment of enlightenment ! ;D and I felt surrounded by wisdom or was it words of Squisdom ? 8) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: flying squirrel on May 24, 2011 10:00 am of course
words of Squisdom can in no way compare to the Wisdom found in the Saki bowl thanx 14 ~ for sharing ! 8) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: flying squirrel on May 24, 2011 10:27 am Even a quacking goose who misses my friend endless squirrel could tell you that. hey Quackers ! 8) missed you too ! Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on May 29, 2011 10:06 pm 'God is love'; when love is awakened in the heart, God is awakened there.
Bowl of Saki, May 29, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Quote Life's light is love; and when the heart is empty of love, a man is living and yet not living; from a spiritual point of view he is dead. When the heart is asleep, he is as though dead in this life, for one can only love through the heart. But love does not mean give and take. That is only a trade; it's selfishness. To give sixpence and receive a shilling is not love. Love is when one loves for the sake of love, when one cannot help but love, cannot do anything but love. Then one is not forced to love; there is no virtue in that. One does not love because another does. It is simply there. It cannot be helped. It is the only thing that makes a person alive. If a person loves one and hates another, what can he know of love? Can you love one person fully if at the same time you cannot bestow a kind glance on some other person? Can you say you love one person fully when you cannot bear him to be loved by someone else as well? Can you hate a person when love is sprinkled like water in your heart? Love is like the water of the Ganges. It is itself a purification. As the Bible says, 'God is love'. When love is awakened in the heart, God is awakened there. When a man has journeyed, he reaches the goal as soon as his heart has reached love. The Sufi says, 'The Kaba, the divine place, paradise, is the heart of the human being'. That is why he has respect for every heart. Every heart is his Kaba, his shrine. The human heart is the place toward which he bows, for in this heart is God. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_30.htm Some object to Christ being called divine; but if divinity is not sought in man, then in what shall we seek God? Can divinity be found in the tree, in the plant, in the stone? Yes indeed, God is in all; but at the same time, it is in man that divinity is awakened, that God is awakened, that God can be seen. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_1.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jun 01, 2011 09:52 pm Man's bodily appetites take him away from his heart's desires; his heart's desires keep him away from the abode of his soul.
Bowl of Saki, June 1, by Hazrat Inayat Khan ...There are two parts in man. One part is his external self, which the soul has borrowed from the earth; and the other part is his real self, which belongs to his Source. In other words an individual is a combination of spirit and matter, a current which runs from above and attracts to it the earth from below, shaping it in order to make it a vehicle. The human body is nothing but a vehicle of the soul which has come from above and has taken the human body as its abode. Thus an individual has two aspects of being: one is the soul, the other is the body. ... Whether he is in the forest or amidst the world's strife, the soul of man is always capable of rising to the greatest heights, if only he wishes to attain to them. ... Man does not need to trouble about what is lacking outside, for in reality all is within himself. http://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.php Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jul 14, 2011 01:40 am Bowl of Saki, July 13, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan ...he believes that the present is the echo of the past, and that the future will be the reflection of the present. It is not sufficient to think only of the present moment; one should also think where it comes from and where it goes. Every thought that comes to his mind, every impulse, every word he speaks, is to him like a seed, a seed which falls in this soil of life, and takes root. And in this way he finds that nothing is lost; every good deed, every little act of kindness, of love, done to anybody, will some day rise as a plant and bear fruit. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_12.htm[/quote] Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jul 14, 2011 04:59 pm 'God is love'; when love is awakened in the heart, God is awakened there. Bowl of Saki, May 29, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Quote As the Bible says, 'God is love'. When love is awakened in the heart, God is awakened there. When a man has journeyed, he reaches the goal as soon as his heart has reached love. The Sufi says, 'The Kaba, the divine place, paradise, is the heart of the human being'. That is why he has respect for every heart. Every heart is his Kaba, his shrine. The human heart is the place toward which he bows, for in this heart is God. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_30.htm Some object to Christ being called divine; but if divinity is not sought in man, then in what shall we seek God? Can divinity be found in the tree, in the plant, in the stone? Yes indeed, God is in all; but at the same time, it is in man that divinity is awakened, that God is awakened, that God can be seen. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_1.htm HI ERIC God is love Yes? and man has reached his goal when he has reached love. Yet reaching love does it stay with us? If only man/woman has the capacity to awaken divinity think of the road ahead of us. Think of what we can be and what we r. i enjoy these words of wisdom from the Sufi. It seems like some of them disappeared in your comment. If i was responsible for this i apologize it was not on purpose. Hope u will bring them back. Jitendra Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jul 14, 2011 08:24 pm "Abstract Sound is called Saut-i Sarmad; all space is filled with it. The vibrations of this Sound are too fine to be either audible or visible to the material ears or eyes, since it is even difficult for the eyes to see the form and color of he ethereal vibrations on the external plane. It was the Saut-i Sarmad, the Sound of the abstract plane, which Muhammad heard in the cave of Ghar-i Hira when he became lost in his divine ideal. The Quran refers to this Sound in the words, 'Be! and all became.' Moses heard this very Sound on Mount Sinai, when in communion with God; and the same Word was audible to Christ when absorbed in his Heavenly Father in the wilderness. Shiva heard the same Anahad Nada during his Samadhi in the cave of the Himalayas. The flute of Krishna is symbolic of the same Sound. This Sound is the source of all revelation to the Masters, to whom it is revealed from within; it is because of this that they know and teach one and the same Truth." -- Hazrat Inayat Khan, The Mysticism of Sound
Hazrat Khan: "It sounds like Thunder, the roaring of the Sea, the jingling of Bells, running the Water, the Buzzing of bees, the Twittering of sparrows, the Vina, the Whistle, or the sound of Shankha..."(The Mysticism of Sound) "The person, who is in tune with the universe, becomes like a radio receiver through which the Voice of the universe is transmitted." (Hazrat Khan) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Sep 28, 2011 11:24 am To fall beneath one's ideal is to lose one's share of life.
Bowl of Saki, September 28, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Quote If anyone asked me what is the life of life, and what is the light of life, what gives one interest in life, I should answer him in one word, and that is: the ideal. A man with wealth, with qualifications, with learning, with comfort, but without ideal to me is a corpse; but a man without learning, without qualifications, without wealth or rank, but with an ideal is a living man. If a man does not live for an ideal what else does he live for? He lives for himself, which is nothing. The man who lives and does not know an ideal is powerless and without light. The greater the ideal, the greater the person. The wider the ideal the broader the person. The deeper the ideal the deeper the person, the higher the ideal the higher the person. Without an ideal, whatever a man may be in life, life for him is worthless. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_35.htm The Sufi Message gives to the world the religion of the day; and that is to make one's life a religion, to turn one's occupation or profession into a religion, to make one's ideal a religious ideal. The object of Sufism is the uniting of life and religion, which so far seem to have been kept apart. When a man goes to church once a week, and devotes all the other days of the week to his business, how can he benefit from religion? Therefore the teaching of Sufism is to transform everyday life into a religion, so that every action may bear some spiritual fruit. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_31.htm We, with our narrowness of faith or belief, accuse others of belonging to another religion, another chapel or church. We say, 'This temple is better, that faith is better.' The whole world has kept on fighting and devastating itself just because it can not understand that each form of religion is peculiar to itself. Therefore, the ideal life is in following one's own ideal. It is not in checking other people's ideals. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_29.htm The man who has never had an ideal may hope to find one. He is in a better state than the man who allows the circumstances of life to break his ideal. To fall beneath one's ideal is to lose one's track in life. Then confusion rises in the mind, and that light which one should hold high becomes covered and obscured, so that it cannot shine out to light one's path. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_II_4.htm An ideal is something to hope for and to hold on to, and in the absence of an ideal hope has nothing to look forward to. It is the lack of idealism which accounts for the present degeneration of humanity in spite of all the progress it has made in other directions. There are many kinds of ideals: principles, virtues, objects of devotion; but the greatest and highest of all ideals is the God-ideal. And when this God-ideal upon which all other ideals are based is lost, then the very notion of ideal is ignored. Man needs many things in life, but his greatest need is an ideal. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_9.htm ~~~ To fall beneath one's ideal is to lose one's share of life. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Oct 02, 2011 09:07 pm It always means that you must sacrifice something very dear to you when His call comes.
Bowl of Saki, October 2, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan ...When we think deeply about the problem of life, there is no path in the world, whether spiritual or material, which we can tread successfully without a sacrifice. Sometimes the sacrifice is great, and sometimes small; sometimes the sacrifice is made first, before achieving success, and sometimes afterwards. As sacrifice is necessary in life, it is made by everyone in some form or other, but when it is made willingly, it turns into a virtue. The greater the ideal, the greater the sacrifice it demands... sacrifice of a possession is the first step; the next one is self-sacrifice, which was the inner note of the religion of Jesus Christ. Charity, generosity, even tolerance and forbearance, are a kind of sacrifice, and every sacrifice in life, in whatever form, means a step towards the goal of every soul. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_22.htm I gave up my music because I had received from it all that I had to receive. To serve God one must sacrifice what is dearest to one; and so I sacrificed my music. I had composed songs; I sang and played the vina; and practicing this music I arrived at a stage where I touched the Music of the Spheres. Then every soul became for me a musical note, and all life became music. Inspired by it I spoke to the people, and those who were attracted by my words listened to them, instead of listening to my songs. Now, if I do anything, it is to tune souls instead of instruments; to harmonize people instead of notes. If there is anything in my philosophy, it is the law of harmony: that one must put oneself in harmony with oneself and with others. I have found in every word a certain musical value, a melody in every thought, harmony in every feeling; and I have tried to interpret the same thing, with clear and simple words, to those who used to listen to my music. I played the vina until my heart turned into this very instrument; then I offered this instrument to the divine Musician, the only musician existing. Since then I have become His flute; and when He chooses, He plays His music. The people give me credit for this music, which in reality is not due to me but to the Musician who plays on His own instrument. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/II/II_0.htm (http://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik90.jpg) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Oct 02, 2011 09:08 pm "Abstract Sound is called Saut-i Sarmad; all space is filled with it. The vibrations of this Sound are too fine to be either audible or visible to the material ears or eyes, since it is even difficult for the eyes to see the form and color of he ethereal vibrations on the external plane. It was the Saut-i Sarmad, the Sound of the abstract plane, which Muhammad heard in the cave of Ghar-i Hira when he became lost in his divine ideal. The Quran refers to this Sound in the words, 'Be! and all became.' Moses heard this very Sound on Mount Sinai, when in communion with God; and the same Word was audible to Christ when absorbed in his Heavenly Father in the wilderness. Shiva heard the same Anahad Nada during his Samadhi in the cave of the Himalayas. The flute of Krishna is symbolic of the same Sound. This Sound is the source of all revelation to the Masters, to whom it is revealed from within; it is because of this that they know and teach one and the same Truth." -- Hazrat Inayat Khan, The Mysticism of Sound Hazrat Khan: "It sounds like Thunder, the roaring of the Sea, the jingling of Bells, running the Water, the Buzzing of bees, the Twittering of sparrows, the Vina, the Whistle, or the sound of Shankha..."(The Mysticism of Sound) "The person, who is in tune with the universe, becomes like a radio receiver through which the Voice of the universe is transmitted." (Hazrat Khan) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: flying squirrel on Oct 12, 2011 08:50 am Enjoying these saki moments! Thanx littlerain ! 8)
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Oct 12, 2011 09:07 am thank you squirrel... i'm glad we both enjoy these. : ) appreciate ya. have a gnight . . . adios amigo : )
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: flying squirrel on Oct 12, 2011 09:19 am welcome amigo 8) gnight ? best time to meditate is after midnight .....
all the spirits are awake and wanting to talk ! :o ;D 8) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Oct 13, 2011 10:21 pm When in ourselves there is inharmony, how can we spread harmony?
Bowl of Saki, October 13, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan It is harmony which makes beauty; beauty in itself has no meaning. An object which is called beautiful at a certain place and time is not beautiful at another place or another time. And so it is with thought, speech and action: that which is called beautiful is only so at a certain time and under certain conditions which make it beautiful. So if one can give a true definition of beauty, it is harmony. ... The teaching of Christ, 'Resist not evil,' is a hint not to respond to inharmony. For instance, a word of kindness, of sympathy, an action of love and affection finds response, but a word of insult, an action of revolt or of hatred creates a response too, and that response creates more inharmony in the world. By giving way to inharmony one allows inharmony to multiply. At this time one sees in the world the greatest unrest and discomfort pervading all over. Where does it come from? It seems to come from ignorance of this fact that inharmony creates inharmony and will multiply inharmony. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_1_9.htm The wise in all ages have dived deep into life in order to attain unity in themselves, and in order to spread unity. In the life of the world every man has some complaint to make. He lacks something; he is troubled by something. But this is only the external reason; the real truth is that he is not in unity with his own soul, for when there is disharmony in ourselves how can we spread harmony? When mind and body are at war the soul wants something else, and soul and mind are pulled by the body, or the body and mind by the soul; and so there is disharmony. When a man is in harmony with himself, he is in harmony with all; he produces harmony and gives harmony to all, he gives it out all the time. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_1.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Nov 11, 2011 03:35 am Mastery lies not merely in stilling the mind, but in directing it towards whatever point you desire. Bowl of Saki, November 10, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan The mind of an average person may be pictured as an unruly horse that jumps and kicks and throws anyone that tries to ride it. Masters of the world are those who have mastered themselves, and mastery lies in the control of the mind. If the mind became your obedient servant, the whole world is at your service. ~~~ "Githa Series II, Amaliyyat 1, Psychology ", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) He who does not direct his own mind lacks mastery. ... If there is any self of which one can say, 'This is man', it is the mind. The three Sanskrit words Mana, Manu, Manusha show that man is his mind, is the product of his mind, and is also the controller of the activity of mind. If he does not control his mind, he is not a master but a slave. It lies with his own mind whether he shall be master, or whether he shall be slave. He is slave when he neglects to be master; he is master if he cares to be master. Mastery lies not merely in stilling the mind, but in directing it towards whatever point we desire, in allowing it to be active as far as we wish, in using it to fulfill our purpose, in causing it to be still when we want to still it. He who has come to this has created his heaven within himself; he has no need to wait for a heaven in the hereafter, for he has produced it within his own mind now. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Nov 11, 2011 03:37 am Strangest thing happened on the way to the forum .... I was enjoying a sip of saki, yeah the rice wine spilt it all over, me and everything around me :o but all of a sudden, there was a moment of enlightenment ! ;D and I felt surrounded by wisdom or was it words of Squisdom ? 8) wow, i'm just catching this and apologize for my late response. but wow. . . that's amazing. thank you for sharing with me, friend Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Nov 15, 2011 02:25 am hello jitendra and namaste2all
both of you have reminded me of todays saki lesson Words are but the shells of thoughts and feelings. Bowl of Saki, November 14, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan In spite of whatever wisdom we may have; we can make a mistake if we have no control over our words. And we can easily find examples of this truth; those who talk much have less power than those who talk little. For a talkative person may not be able to express an idea in a thousand words which those who are masters of silence express in one word. ... What gives power over words? What gives the power that can be attained by silence? The answer is: it is will power which gives the control over words; it is silence which gives one the power of silence. It is restlessness when a person speaks too much. The more words are used to express an idea, the less powerful they become. It is a great pity that man so often thinks of saving pennies and never thinks of sparing words. It is like saving pebbles and throwing away pearls. An Indian poet says, 'Pearl-shell, what gives you your precious contents? Silence; for years my lips were closed.' from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IV/IV_34.htm The mystic sees another significance of the mouth than for it to be a receptacle of food and drink. Through the mouth words of wisdom are expressed, sacred words repeated. Therefore the mouth is likened to a shell from which pearl-like words become manifest. As by the opening of the mouth words are expressed so by the closing of the mouth the word is drawn within, which becomes a living word compared with all other words, which are lost after once they are spoken. ~~~ "Sangita II, Shaghal 9", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) ~~~ Words are but the shells of thoughts and feelings. cheers Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Nov 18, 2011 08:32 am If the eyes and ears are open, the leaves of the trees become as pages of the Bible.
Bowl of Saki, November 17, by Hazrat Inayat Khan(http://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik12.jpg) Quote Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan If one would realize that the world of God, His splendor and magnificence, are to be seen in the wise and the foolish, in the good and the bad, then one would think tolerantly and reverently of all mankind, knowing that it represents the messenger, as the messenger represents God. For no one has seen God at any time, but if there is anyone who represents God, it is the man who speaks His word. God is seen in the one who glorifies Him. But if our hearts are closed, even if we wait for a thousand years for the messenger to show himself, we shall never find him. For he who is always there has said, 'I am Alpha and Omega. I exist every moment. When you call me, I am there. Knock at the door, and I will answer you.' And those whose eyes are open do not need to go to a church and look at a picture or statue of the Lord. In the eyes of every infant, in the smile of every innocent child, they receive the blessing of Christ. It only means changing one's outlook on life, and recognizing the divine in man. But man has ignored the divine spirit that manifests in humanity, and always prefers an idol, a painting, a picture, to the living God, who is constantly before him. For the sage, the seer, the saint, and the yogi who begin to see the master, and see him living, there is no place where he cannot be seen. Then everywhere the beloved master is ready to answer the cry of the soul coming from friend, father or teacher. And if we go a little further forward, we will find that the teacher speaks aloud, not only through living beings, but through nature. If the eyes and ears are open, the leaves of the trees become as pages of the Bible. If the heart is alive, the whole life becomes one single vision of His sublime beauty, speaking to us at every moment. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Nov 18, 2011 09:53 am hello jitendra and namaste2all both of you have reminded me of todays saki lesson Words are but the shells of thoughts and feelings. Bowl of Saki, November 14, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan In spite of whatever wisdom we may have; we can make a mistake if we have no control over our words. And we can easily find examples of this truth; those who talk much have less power than those who talk little. For a talkative person may not be able to express an idea in a thousand words which those who are masters of silence express in one word. ... What gives power over words? What gives the power that can be attained by silence? The answer is: it is will power which gives the control over words; it is silence which gives one the power of silence. It is restlessness when a person speaks too much. The more words are used to express an idea, the less powerful they become. It is a great pity that man so often thinks of saving pennies and never thinks of sparing words. It is like saving pebbles and throwing away pearls. An Indian poet says, 'Pearl-shell, what gives you your precious contents? Silence; for years my lips were closed.' from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IV/IV_34.htm The mystic sees another significance of the mouth than for it to be a receptacle of food and drink. Through the mouth words of wisdom are expressed, sacred words repeated. Therefore the mouth is likened to a shell from which pearl-like words become manifest. As by the opening of the mouth words are expressed so by the closing of the mouth the word is drawn within, which becomes a living word compared with all other words, which are lost after once they are spoken. ~~~ "Sangita II, Shaghal 9", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) ~~~ Words are but the shells of thoughts and feelings. cheers Hi Eric Thank You so much for what is quoted full of wisdom. i do not know how much they apply to me. Perhaps a lot. i speak often on the forum because it helps me maintain friendships; or is that the case? One often pauses to reflect. Sometimes it is better to remain silent on a subject because in the process of talking u become the fool. However, remaining silent when something needs to be said also can show a lack of love, caring and concern. Often i hope others will speak and initiate relationships of some sort because there is nothing more i can say without becoming part of their agenda of controlling the relationship. This does not cover all the thoughts on this subject; just wanted u to know i appreciated the subject by returning a comment because i care about u as i do others here. In Divine Friendship Jitendra Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Nov 19, 2011 03:07 am hi steve incase you were wondering why i was reminded of you and scott(?) is because lately in both of your post(recent past) you discuss similar- thats all
the timing of these messages are mysteriously beautiful sometimes, worth sharing Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: yoshi on Nov 19, 2011 01:11 pm (((eric)))
thank u for your bowl of saki posts.....packed full of wisdom and inspiration they are, by such one-der-full masters... thank you...i appreciate them very much and always look forward to reading them <3<3<3 (((Love&Hugs&OM))) yoshi Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: flying squirrel on Nov 22, 2011 06:34 am one- der- full ;D
one - der - full ;D thirsting for more V8 or is it Sakee ! ;D 8) so confused walking thru that spiritual portal, LOL Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Dec 15, 2011 09:44 am as true as the message might be, it makes me sad nonetheless :'( i can't always do what master ask
Quote He who keeps no secrets has no depth in his heart. Bowl of Saki, December 14, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan He who keeps no secret has no depth; his heart is like a vessel turned upside down. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/say/gayan_boulas.htm The secret of all attainment is centered in reserve. Spiritual or material, when a person has told his plans to others, he has let out the energy that he should have kept as a reservoir of power for the accomplishment of his object. ... The teaching, 'Be wise as a serpent,' may be interpreted, 'Be quiet as a serpent.' It is quietude that gives wisdom and power. The thought held in mind speaks to the mind of another, but the thought spoken out most often only reaches the ears of a person. Every plan has a period of development; and if man has power over his impulse, by retaining the thought silently in mind, he allows the plan to develop and to take all necessary changes that it may take for its culmination. But when the impulse expresses the thought, it so to speak 'puts out the flame,' thus hindering the development of the plan. The wise speak with their mind many times before they speak about it to anybody. ~~~ "Githa I, Sadhana 7, The Path of Attainnment", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) I say, "Without the control over your lips you will not be able to develop inspiration." As a poet has said, "When the shell closes its lips, then the pearl develops in it." ... the more you are able to keep your secret in your heart, the greater you become. You have more weight, your personality becomes more reliable, more dependable. As it is said in Vadan that it is best to say something without saying. ~~~ "Sangatha II, Secrecy on the Path of Truth", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) As soon as a person thinks, 'I am more,' the doors of knowledge are closed. He will no more be able to widen his knowledge because automatically, the doors of his heart are closed the moment he says, 'I know.' Spiritual knowledge, the knowledge of life, is so intoxicating, so exalting, it gives such a great joy, that one begins to pour out one's knowledge before anyone who comes along as soon as this knowledge springs up. But if at that time the disciple could realize that he should conserve that kindling of the light, reserve it, keep it within himself and let it deepen, then his words would not be necessary and his presence would enlighten people. As soon as the spring rises and he pours forth what comes out of that spring in words, although on the one side his vanity will be satisfied, on the other side his energy will be exhausted. The little spring that had risen, he has poured out before others and he remains without power. This is why reserve is taught to the true disciple, the conserving of inspiration and power. The one who speaks is not always wise; it is the one who listens who is wise. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_2_8.htm The more one knows the secret of the world the more one feels inclined to keep it secret. And the more one keeps secret what one knows the more life unfolds its secrets to one. ... it must be remembered that the power of the body is nothing in comparison with the power of the mind. And the power of the one who keeps a secret is greater than the power of the giant who lifts a mountain. All that one holds is preserved, all that one lets go is dispersed. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_20.htm ~~~ He who keeps no secrets has no depth in his heart. it's hard. :-[ Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Dec 15, 2011 06:53 pm as true as the message might be, it makes me sad nonetheless :'( i can't always do what master ask Quote He who keeps no secrets has no depth in his heart. Bowl of Saki, December 14, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan He who keeps no secret has no depth; his heart is like a vessel turned upside down. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/say/gayan_boulas.htm The secret of all attainment is centered in reserve. Spiritual or material, when a person has told his plans to others, he has let out the energy that he should have kept as a reservoir of power for the accomplishment of his object. ... The teaching, 'Be wise as a serpent,' may be interpreted, 'Be quiet as a serpent.' It is quietude that gives wisdom and power. The thought held in mind speaks to the mind of another, but the thought spoken out most often only reaches the ears of a person. Every plan has a period of development; and if man has power over his impulse, by retaining the thought silently in mind, he allows the plan to develop and to take all necessary changes that it may take for its culmination. But when the impulse expresses the thought, it so to speak 'puts out the flame,' thus hindering the development of the plan. The wise speak with their mind many times before they speak about it to anybody. ~~~ "Githa I, Sadhana 7, The Path of Attainnment", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) I say, "Without the control over your lips you will not be able to develop inspiration." As a poet has said, "When the shell closes its lips, then the pearl develops in it." ... the more you are able to keep your secret in your heart, the greater you become. You have more weight, your personality becomes more reliable, more dependable. As it is said in Vadan that it is best to say something without saying. ~~~ "Sangatha II, Secrecy on the Path of Truth", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) As soon as a person thinks, 'I am more,' the doors of knowledge are closed. He will no more be able to widen his knowledge because automatically, the doors of his heart are closed the moment he says, 'I know.' Spiritual knowledge, the knowledge of life, is so intoxicating, so exalting, it gives such a great joy, that one begins to pour out one's knowledge before anyone who comes along as soon as this knowledge springs up. But if at that time the disciple could realize that he should conserve that kindling of the light, reserve it, keep it within himself and let it deepen, then his words would not be necessary and his presence would enlighten people. As soon as the spring rises and he pours forth what comes out of that spring in words, although on the one side his vanity will be satisfied, on the other side his energy will be exhausted. The little spring that had risen, he has poured out before others and he remains without power. This is why reserve is taught to the true disciple, the conserving of inspiration and power. The one who speaks is not always wise; it is the one who listens who is wise. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_2_8.htm The more one knows the secret of the world the more one feels inclined to keep it secret. And the more one keeps secret what one knows the more life unfolds its secrets to one. ... it must be remembered that the power of the body is nothing in comparison with the power of the mind. And the power of the one who keeps a secret is greater than the power of the giant who lifts a mountain. All that one holds is preserved, all that one lets go is dispersed. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_20.htm ~~~ He who keeps no secrets has no depth in his heart. it's hard. :-[ In Elisabeth Haich's book, "Initiation", she mentions twelve sets of opposites which we must learn to control and balance in order to improve yourself and your level of consciousness. At any moment in time u may required to exercise one side of one of these qualities. It is knowing when and how to exercise these qualities and to put them in perfect balance that are the lessons we must master to gain ultimate understanding and a higher consciousness. I am not absolutely sure that this is all there is; however, they are so general, that they may in fact constitute the summation of all such intangible thought forms. In any case, let's review them for what they are worth. They are as follows: keeping silent - talking receptivity - resistance to influence obeying - ruling humility - self confidence lightning-like speed - circumspection to accept everything - to be able to differentiate ability to fight - peace caution - courage to possess nothing - to command everything to have no ties - loyalty contempt for death - regard for life indifference - love We r fortunate that Hazrat Inayat Khan has chosen to say so much; to speak his wisdom. He may b speaking of deeper experiences that may b held between two or more people. As u know a secret is only a secret because it was told to someone otherwise it is nothing to anyone else. It is like the breeze in the forest when no one is there to experience it. i have posted this before. Yet it reminds me that there is a balance in everything and many times not expressing or speaking conveys a coldness, a lack of sympathy and love. If u watch a saint or Master like Amma or Paramahansa Yogananda u will find that much was said and they talked a good part of their lives. Yet we r grateful for their words as we r grateful for Hazrat Inayat Khan's words and your presence verbally here at spiritual portal. What would spiritual communion b like if we did not share it and what would love b if we do not express it? i would much rather have someone make a few mistakes in talking and expressing then withholding and showing nothing and giving nothing that we can relate to. We know others by their presence and what they say and express. If they show no expression what do they share and what do we know of them? Some people r like rocks they show nothing but the hardness of their texture. It is because we have mouths and hands that we can express what we experience inside and it is because we have ears that we r often silent and learn to listen. When i am quiet i hope to b receptive to the wisdom of the silent ones. i want to listen with all my being. We r fortunate to have your communication Eric. It is like a warm breeze in the coldness that often surrounds us. Jitendra Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jan 07, 2012 03:44 am for flying squirrel
i hope you've enjoyed this little story as much as i (http://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik88.jpg) The truth cannot be spoken; that which can be spoken is not the truth.Bowl of Saki, January 6, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Truth is that which can never be spoken in words and that which can be spoken in words is not the truth. The ocean is the ocean; the ocean is not a few drops of water that one puts in a bottle. Just so truth cannot be limited by words: truth must be experienced... from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_34.htm ...the truth cannot be put into words; all we can do is make an effort to render the mystery of life intelligible to our minds. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_12.htm Very often people ask, "What is the nature of truth, is it a theory, a principle, a philosophy, or a doctrine?" All theories, philosophies, principles, and doctrines are only a cover over the truth. The ultimate truth is that which cannot spoken, for words are too inadequate to express it. ~~~ "Supplementary papers, Philosophy V", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) There is a well known Eastern legend giving the idea of a soul who had found truth. There was a wall of laughter and of smiles. This wall existed for ages and many tried to climb it, but few succeeded. Those who had climbed upon it saw something beyond, and so interested were they that they smiled, climbed over the wall and never returned. The people of the town began to wonder what magic could there be and what attraction, that whoever climbed the wall never returned. So they called it the wall of mystery. Then they said, 'We must make an enquiry and send someone who can reach the top, but we must tie him with a rope to hold him back.' When the man they had thus sent reached the top of the wall, he smiled and tried to jump over it, but they pulled him back. Still he smiled, and when the people eagerly asked, 'what did you see there?' he did not answer, he only smiled. This is the condition of the seer. The man who in the shrine of his heart has seen the vision of God, the one who has the realization of truth, can only smile, for words can never really explain what truth means. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_7.htm http://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.php Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Mar 05, 2012 08:25 pm (http://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik33.jpg)Man creates his own disharmony.
Bowl of Saki, March 5, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Feelings such as pride, conceit, selfishness, jealousy, envy and contempt are all feelings which hurt others and which destroy one's own life making it full of the misery which springs from that selfish personal feeling, that ego of man. The more egoistic, the more conceited he is, the more miserable a life he has in the world, the more he makes the lives of others miserable. ... it is in the world that, growing up, he creates all this and this creation is called nafs or ego. Yet at the same time in the depth of the heart there is that goodness which is the divine goodness, that righteousness which man has inherited from the Father in heaven. ... Man creates his own disharmony in his soul and then treats others in the same way; therefore he is not satisfied with his own life, nor is he satisfied with others because he feels that he has a complaint against others, although mostly it is caused by himself. What he gives he receives back, but he never sees that. He always thinks: what the depth of his being yearns for -- love, goodness, righteousness, harmony and peace -- everybody must give to him. But for him when it comes to giving he does not give because he lives in the other life he has created. ... But when a revolution comes in the life of a man, as soon as he begins to see deeply into life, to acquire goodness -- not only to get but to give -- as soon as he begins to enjoy not only the sympathy of others but giving sympathy to others, then comes a period when he begins to see this Satan-spirit as apart from his real original being, standing before him constantly in conflict with his natural force, freedom and inclination. ... The mystery of perfection lies in annihilation -- not in annihilation of the real self, but of the false self, of the false conception which man has cherished in his heart and always has allowed to torture his life. ... God speaks to everyone, not only to the messengers and teachers. He speaks to the ears of every heart, but it is not every heart which hears it. His voice is louder than the thunder, and His light is clearer than the sun -- if one could only see it, if one could only hear it. In order to see it and in order to hear it man should remove this wall, this barrier which he has made of the self. Then he becomes the flute upon which the divine Player may play the music of Orpheus which can charm even the hearts of stone; then he rises from the cross into the life everlasting. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_2_22.htm ~~~ Man creates his own disharmony. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Apr 05, 2012 06:19 am (http://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik35.jpg)
photo 1 To give sympathy is sovereignty, to desire it from others is captivity. Bowl of Saki, April 4, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Although sometimes it gives a tender sensation in the heart to say, 'Oh, how poorly I am', and it is soothing to hear from someone, 'Oh, I am so sorry you are not well', yet I should think that one would prefer if another thing were said in sympathy, namely, 'I am so happy to see you are so well'. In order to create that tender sensation one need not be ill. What is needed is to be thankful. We can never be too thankful. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IV/IV_11.htm The first lesson given to man was to be grateful for his daily bread, because that was the greatest necessity of his life. Now that has become so simple and life has changed so much that man forgets to be thankful. He even thinks, 'Why should I give thanks?' He forgets that behind his own personality he covers God. His own toil seems more to him than the toil of every atom of nature that is preparing blessings for him. Self-pity is the worst poverty; it is the source of all unhappiness and blinds man to all he should be thankful for. The constantly complaining habit and the tendency to demand sympathy from others bring the greatest thorn into man's life: he becomes dependent upon the sympathy of others. The best thing is to give sympathy. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_1.htm ~~~ To give sympathy is sovereignty, to desire it from others is captivity. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Apr 07, 2012 03:28 am (http://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik35.jpg) photo 1 To give sympathy is sovereignty, to desire it from others is captivity. Bowl of Saki, April 4, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Although sometimes it gives a tender sensation in the heart to say, 'Oh, how poorly I am', and it is soothing to hear from someone, 'Oh, I am so sorry you are not well', yet I should think that one would prefer if another thing were said in sympathy, namely, 'I am so happy to see you are so well'. In order to create that tender sensation one need not be ill. What is needed is to be thankful. We can never be too thankful. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IV/IV_11.htm The first lesson given to man was to be grateful for his daily bread, because that was the greatest necessity of his life. Now that has become so simple and life has changed so much that man forgets to be thankful. He even thinks, 'Why should I give thanks?' He forgets that behind his own personality he covers God. His own toil seems more to him than the toil of every atom of nature that is preparing blessings for him. Self-pity is the worst poverty; it is the source of all unhappiness and blinds man to all he should be thankful for. The constantly complaining habit and the tendency to demand sympathy from others bring the greatest thorn into man's life: he becomes dependent upon the sympathy of others. The best thing is to give sympathy. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_1.htm ~~~ To give sympathy is sovereignty, to desire it from others is captivity. i know it is more blessed to give than to receive. i often have to remind myself of this. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Katze on Apr 07, 2012 09:59 am Thank you abysmaltouch for sharing all your Saki stories with us !
Nitewish Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Serena Duvet on Apr 14, 2012 10:26 am The April 4th post is so wonderful and true.
Thank you for giving us this great man's wisdom. I needed this so much the last two days! I want to pick the flowers rather than pierce my skin with the brambles and thorns! (http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i411/KikiDuvet/407328_386503848033555_100000218297937_1751539_1904214517_n-1.jpg) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Apr 14, 2012 06:09 pm hi serena
im glad you like it :) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Apr 24, 2012 02:44 am (http://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik66.jpg)
Knowledge without love is lifeless. Bowl of Saki, April 23, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan The loveless heart may have all the religion and all the knowledge, yet it is dead. As the Bible says, "God is love." God is in the heart of each person, and the heart of each person is the highest heaven. When that heart is closed by the absence of love, then God is closed. When this heart is open, God is open, and one is alive from that time. ~~~ "Gathekas #22, Aims and Ideals", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) When the heart is not empty, in other words, when there is no scope in the heart, there is no place for love. Rumi, the great poet of Persia, explains this idea more clearly. He says the pains and sorrows the soul experiences through life are like holes made in a reed flute, and it is by making these holes that a player makes the flute out of a reed. This means that the heart of man is first a reed and the sufferings and pains it goes through make it a flute which can then be used by God as the instrument for the music that He constantly wishes to produce. But as every reed is not a flute, so every heart is not His instrument. As the reed can be made into a flute, so the human heart can be turned into an instrument, and can be offered to the God of love. It is the human heart which becomes the harp of the angels. It is the human heart which is known as the lute of Orpheus. It was on the model of the heart of man that the first instrument of music was made, and no earthly instrument can produce that music which the heart produces, raising the mortal soul to immortality. ... It is the knowledge of the head and the love of the heart that together fully express the divine message. ... It is by keen observation that man acquires knowledge. Knowledge without love is lifeless. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_28.htm In love abides all knowledge. It is mankind's love and interest in things that in time reveals their secret, and then man knows how to develop, control, and utilize them. No one can know anybody, however much he may profess to know, except the lover, because in the absence of love the inner eyes are blind. Only the outer eyes are open, which are merely the spectacles of the inner eyes. If the sight is not keen, of what use are the spectacles? It is for this reason that we admire all those whom we love, and are blind to the good qualities of those whom we do not love. It is not always that these deserve our neglect, but our eyes, without love, cannot see their goodness. Those whom we love may have bad points too, but as love sees beauty, so we see that alone in them. Intelligence itself in its next step towards manifestation is love. When the light of love has been lit, the heart becomes transparent, so that the intelligence of the soul can see through it. But until the heart is kindled by the flame of love, the intelligence, which is constantly yearning to experience life on the surface, is groping in the dark. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_19.htm ~~~ Knowledge without love is lifeless. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Apr 26, 2012 01:51 am i surmise this is the best from the bowl. It is the goal for me. Many times we
have sought love in the wrong places; Yet we do not succumb to growing weary. Hydonus Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on May 07, 2012 01:08 am (http://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik49.jpg)
Unity in realization is far greater than unity in variety. Bowl of Saki, May 6, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan What keeps the soul in perplexity is the threefold aspect of manifestation, and as long as the soul remains puzzled by this, it cannot arrive at the knowledge of the One. These three aspects are the seer, sight, and the seen; the knower, knowledge, and the known. In point of fact these are three aspects of life. One aspect is the person who sees; the second aspect is the sight, or the eyes, by the help of which he sees; and the third aspect is that which he sees. That is why one cannot readily accept the idea that what one sees is the same as oneself, nor can one believe for a moment that the medium by which one sees is oneself, for these three aspects seem to be separate and to be looking at one another's faces, as the first person, second person, and third person of Brahma. When this riddle is solved by the realization that the three are one, then the purpose of the God-ideal is fulfilled. For then the three veils which cover the One are lifted, then they no longer remain three, and then they are found to be One, the Only Being. As Abdul Karim al Jili, the fifteenth-century mystic, says, 'If you believe in one God, you are right; if you believe in two Gods, that is true; but if you believe in three Gods, that is right also, for the nature of unity is realized by variety.' from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_10.htm Man's thought has a great power. And when he comes to the realization that everything comes from one source and that everything is developing towards one goal, he begins to see that the source and the goal are God. Then the world of variety is no longer variety to him but unity; it is one. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IV/IV_29.htm The power is in unity, but is lost in variety. Thus, for instance, if we hold a thing in our hand, we can hold it with strength, because all five fingers have united to hold the object. But if we try to lift it by one finger, this one finger may drop it, even though the finger belongs to the same hand. In all aspects of life unity is power. All religions show that power is in unity. This is the secret of philosophy. There are two aspects of unity: firstly, the unity of variety; secondly, unity realizing itself. One is earthly, the other is heavenly. One cannot serve two masters. Unity is the only source of happiness. Unity in realization is far greater than unity in variety. 'When two hearts unite, they can break even mountains.' As two fuse in love, the more does intuition grow, the more does one understand whether the other is happy, or pleased, or displeased, whatever distance may separate them. This is nothing but just the unity of the one person with the other. It is clairvoyance. The mother knows the condition of her son at the battlefront. She can see him in her dreams. Hearts, which are united in love, perceive the state of mind of the loved ones. They do not have to study mysticism or concentration, for they have natural concentration. The mother does not pretend to meditate; love teaches her more meditation than a person who pretends to study it can attain. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_18.htm ~~~ Unity in realization is far greater than unity in variety. http://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.php Title: a story from todays saki Post by: guest88 on May 08, 2012 02:45 am There is a story of a murshid and a mureed. The mureed said, 'O, Teacher, I should like to see heaven.' The teacher said, 'Yes, this is the way you should meditate in order to see heaven.' So the mureed went and did so; but the vision of heaven which he had was not as described in the scriptures, a place where one enjoys nothing but comfort and luxury, milk and honey, marble halls and white robes, beautiful gems and jewels, garlands of flowers, and the waving of palms. He could not see any of these, and he asked himself, 'Has the murshid perhaps shown me a wrong heaven, or have the prophets given a wrong message in the scriptures?'
So he went back to his teacher saying, 'Now I should like to see hell.' The murshid said, 'Yes, this is the way you should meditate in order to see hell.' And then the mureed did this, and he saw in a trance that there was certainly such a place, but there was no fire or snakes or serpents or thorns or tortures or imps or flames such as have been described to people throughout the ages. So he could not understand whether his vision was right or wrong; and he went back to the teacher, and said, 'I have seen in this way: I have not seen in heaven the things that are promised, nor have I seen in hell the things which are foretold as being there.' 'O,' the teacher said, 'all the things promised for the hereafter you will have to take there from here. They are not kept ready for you; you will have to bring them with you. If you take sorrows with you, you will find them there; if you take hatred, you will find it there. Your mind is like a gramophone record, and if you use a harsh voice, the instrument produces a harsh note; if beautiful words and tones, it will sing beautiful words and tones. It will produce the same record that you have experienced in life. Indeed you have not to wait till after death in order to experience it; you are experiencing it even now.' Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on May 17, 2012 05:28 am (http://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik41.jpg)The poverty of one who has renounced is real riches compared with the riches of one who holds them fast.
Bowl of Saki, May 16, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan The saints and sages and prophets all had to go through this test and trial, and in proportion to the greatness of their renunciation, so great have these souls become. Renunciation is the sign of heroes, it is the merit of saints, it is the character of the masters, and it is the virtue of the prophets. ... It is as Fariduddin Attar, the great Persian poet, says, 'Renounce the good of the world, renounce the good of heaven, renounce your highest ideal, and then renounce your renunciation.' from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XI/XI_III_9.htm He who wants anything becomes smaller than the thing he wants; he who gives away anything is greater than the thing he gives. Therefore, to a mystic each act of renunciation becomes a step towards perfection. Forced renunciation, whether forced by morality, religion, law, convention, or formality, is not necessarily renunciation. The real spirit of renunciation is willingness; and willing renunciation comes when one has risen above the thing one renounces. The value of each thing in life - wealth, power, position, possession - is according to the evolution of man. There is a time in his life when toys are his treasures, and there is a time when he puts them aside; there is a time in his life when copper coins are everything to him, and there is another time when he can give away gold coins; there is a time in his life when he values a cottage, and there is a time when he gives up a palace. ... Every step towards progress and ascent is a step of renunciation. The poverty of the one who has renounced is real riches compared with the riches of the one who holds them fast. One could be rich in wealth and poverty-stricken in reality; and one can be penniless and yet richer than the rich of the world... The final victory in the battle of life for every soul is when he has abandoned, which means when he has risen above, what once he valued most... Such is the case with all things of the world; they seem important or precious when we need them or when we do not understand them; as soon as the veil which keeps man from understanding is lifted, then they are nothing. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_III_5.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Serena Duvet on May 22, 2012 01:35 am There is a certain grasping that comes, I notice, with desire, that feels unpleasant.
At times when a friend has offered me something they did not want or value, my expression of appreciation and thanks then propelled a change of heart on the part of the friend, and they make a new decision to keep what would have been, a "gift." The undesirable has suddenly become full of value due to another's finding it desirable! But then on the other hand, it seems almost a psychological law to want what one doesn't or cannot have. This comes to play at times in affairs of the heart... if only we could all be open giving hearts! (http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i411/KikiDuvet/the_wild_swans_at_coole.jpg) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on May 23, 2012 02:15 am There is a certain grasping that comes, I notice, with desire, that feels unpleasant. At times when a friend has offered me something they did not want or value, my expression of appreciation and thanks then propelled a change of heart on the part of the friend, and they make a new decision to keep what would have been, a "gift." The undesirable has suddenly become full of value due to another's finding it desirable! But then on the other hand, it seems almost a psychological law to want what one doesn't or cannot have. This comes to play at times in affairs of the heart... if only we could all be open giving hearts! (http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i411/KikiDuvet/the_wild_swans_at_coole.jpg) nomaste serena at a certain level of consciousness i see what you r talking about. people wanting what they can't have. in the fairest of the heart there comes a recognition that our own worth and kindness exceeds the worth of the coveted person. this happens when we live in the consciousness of giving and acceptance. it may appear we covet someone when indeed what we are doing is giving love in return for coldness anger or sadness in another. we may see something valuable in someone else and not give up on them. this does not mean we dot not appreciate what we do have. as Khan says. when the veil of understanding is liifted from material objects and people we gain a total different perspective. Jitendra Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on May 23, 2012 03:14 am from david wolfes sunfood diet success system
we do not know how the world really is; we only know what our beliefs are about the world. our perceptions create our reality. The perfect life is following one's own ideal, not in checking those of others; leave everyone to follow his own ideal. Bowl of Saki, May 22, by Hazrat Inayat Khan (http://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik3.jpg) http://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.php Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jun 07, 2012 09:40 pm We blame others for our sorrows and misfortunes, not perceiving that we ourselves are the creators of our world.
Bowl of Saki, June 6, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Quote Externally we are a single being, but internally we are a world. As vast as is the world around us, so vast is the world within. Asif says, 'The limitation of the sky and land cannot be compared with man's heart. If man's heart be wide, there is nothing wider than this.' All can be accommodated in it; heaven earth, sun, moon, all are reflected in it. It becomes itself the whole. This world becomes as one chooses to make it. If man only knew that! But since he does not know that, the world is not heaven, but has become its opposite. We blame others for our sorrows and misfortunes, not perceiving that we ourselves are the creators of our world; that our world has an influence upon our life within as well as upon our life without. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_17.htm One learns to understand that there is a world in one's self, that in one's mind there is a source of happiness and unhappiness, the source of health and illness, the source of light and darkness, and that it can be awakened, either mechanically or at will, if only one knew how to do it. Then one does not blame his ill fortune nor complain of his fellow man. He becomes more tolerant, more joyful, and more loving toward his neighbor, because he knows the cause of every thought and action, and he sees it all as the effect of a certain cause. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_5.htm ~~~ We blame others for our sorrows and misfortunes, not perceiving that we ourselves are the creators of our world. Nobody appears inferior to us when our heart is kindled with kindness and our eyes are open to the vision of God. Bowl of Saki, June 7, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Quote We are so situated in life that whatever position we may occupy we are never independent, we are never self-sufficient. Therefore, every individual depends upon others for help, and others depend upon him for help; only the position of the person who is one among many who receive help becomes lower in the eyes of those who count themselves among the few who can help. This makes every person a master as well as a servant. Yet everyone, in the intoxication of his mastership, forgets his place as a servant, and looks upon the one who helps him as his servant. The wise, whose feelings are awakened, think on this question deeply, and do their best to avoid every possibility of giving even an idea to a servant of his servantship, far less insulting him in any way or hurting his feelings. We are all equal, and if we have helpers to serve us in life we ought to feel humble and most thankful for the privilege, instead of making the position of the servant humble. ... One cannot commit a greater sin than hurting the feelings of the one who serves us and depends upon our help. Once the Prophet heard his grandson call a servant by his name. On hearing this he at once said to his grandson, 'No, child, that is not the right way of addressing elders. You ought to call him 'uncle.' It does not matter if he serves us, we are all servants of one another, and we are equal in the sight of God.' There is a verse of Mahmud-i Ghaznavi: 'The Emperor Mahmud, who had thousands of slaves to wait on his call, became the slave of his slaves when love gushed forth from his heart.' Nobody appears inferior to us when our heart is kindled with kindness and our eyes are open to the vision of God. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_III_4.htm As Christ teaches, 'Whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.' What does all this teach us? It is all a lesson in sympathy for one's fellow man, to teach us to share in his troubles, in his despair. For whoever really experiences this joy of life, finds that it becomes so great that it fills his heart and his soul. It does not matter if he has fewer comforts or an inferior position than many in this world, because the light of his kindness, of his sympathy, of the love that is growing, the virtue that is springing up in his heart, all fill the soul with light. There is nothing now that he lacks in life, for he has become the king of it. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_1.htm ~~~ Nobody appears inferior to us when our heart is kindled with kindness and our eyes are open to the vision of God. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki ~ Negative Manifestations Post by: Serena Duvet on Jun 08, 2012 06:09 pm I have two friends that are sometimes led to put others down (unnecessarily.)
Sometimes it's simply a statement that is judgmental. Sometimes it's a prying question. It feels uncomfortable to me when it happens, but I've never been led to be confrontational back, or question motivation. Recently I called one of the friends during the time of the special solar eclipse. She wasn't feeling well to the point where she didn't answer the phone. Later on another day she apologized and said that she was working through some heavy emotional stuff. Still later, on another day, she told me what it was about. That she had come to realize that she was very judgmental and that it was very painful. She goes to many, many meditation retreats throughout the year and attends Buddhist meditations weekly and takes many spiritual seminars. I wonder if her realization was spontaneous, or after much reflection, or if someone confronted her. When she told me that she was suffering with the realization I listened but did not protest. She had demonstrated it to me so many times. It seems as though it may stem from a mistrust of others (at times) with me, anyway. Once, when we became separated hiking and she blamed me although I told her I waited and waited for her when I became aware that she had taken a different fork (behind me) on the way to the same destination. She walked by and neither of us saw the other! Things are funny that way sometimes. Yes, why blame another? Why criticize another? Why judge another? Jesus said: "May the man without sin cast the first stone." (http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i411/KikiDuvet/3713702782_ff74a3e023.jpg) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki ~ Negative Manifestations Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jun 09, 2012 02:59 pm I have two friends that are sometimes led to put others down (unnecessarily.) Sometimes it's simply a statement that is judgmental. Sometimes it's a prying question. It feels uncomfortable to me when it happens, but I've never been led to be confrontational back, or question motivation. Recently I called one of the friends during the time of the special solar eclipse. She wasn't feeling well to the point where she didn't answer the phone. Later on another day she apologized and said that she was working through some heavy emotional stuff. Still later, on another day, she told me what it was about. That she had come to realize that she was very judgmental and that it was very painful. She goes to many, many meditation retreats throughout the year and attends Budbydhist meditations weekly and takes many spiritual seminars. I wonder if her realization was spontaneous, or after much reflection, or if someone confronted her. When she told me that she was suffering with the realization I listened but did not protest. She had demonstrated it to me so many times. It seems as though it may stem from a mistrust of others (at times) with me, anyway. Once, when we became separated hiking and she blamed me although I told her I waited and waited for her when I became aware that she had taken a different fork (behind me) on the way to the same destination. She walked by and neither of us saw the other! Things are funny that way sometimes. Yes, why blame another? Why criticize another? Why judge another? Jesus said: "May the man without sin cast the first stone." (http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i411/KikiDuvet/3713702782_ff74a3e023.jpg) Serena It is difficult to meditate for any length of time without having some change of consciousness. people are used to experiences of the senses. these experiences are more dramatic. initial experiences with meditation work more subtly amd psychologically. there is also much introspection that goes along with some searching and interior meditation. no doubt your friend is giving u a view of this. for those on the path the landscape itself can change. we might not even see something that we usually are able to see. do you remember the incident with the van? when we are in the hands of spirit we are often given lessons as an act of grace. these experiences help us understand how we function and increase our spiritual awareness. they may even appear to seem unpleasant. yet quite often human beings are not adaptable to change. the ego persists in maintaining its identity while spirit erodes its foundations so that we have a sky opening to heaven. our perspective changes and we view our experiences with our friends and with other people very differently. Jitendra Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Serena Duvet on Jun 09, 2012 06:23 pm Beautifully put... thank you!
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jun 21, 2012 05:03 am Love lies in service; only that which is done not for fame or name, not for the appreciation or thanks of those for whom it is done, is love's service.
Bowl of Saki, June 20, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Love lies in service. Only that which is done, not for fame or name, nor for the appreciation or thanks of those for whom it is done, is love's service. The lover shows kindness and beneficence to the beloved. He does whatever he can for the beloved in the way of help, service, sacrifice, kindness, or rescue, and hides it from the world and even from the beloved. If the beloved does anything for him he exaggerates it, idealizes it, makes it into a mountain from a molehill. He takes poison from the hands of the beloved as sugar, and love's pain in the wound of his heart is his only joy. By magnifying and idealizing whatever the beloved does for him and by diminishing and forgetting whatever he himself does for the beloved, he first develops his own gratitude, which creates all goodness in his life. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_22.htm The Sufi moral is this: Love another and do not depend upon his love; and: Do good to another and do not depend upon receiving good from him; serve another and do not look for service from him. All you do for another out of your love and kindness, you should think that you do, not to that person, but to God. And if the person returns love for love, goodness for goodness, service for service, so much the better. If he does not return it, then pity him for what he loses; for his gain is much less than his loss. Do not look for thanks or appreciation for all the good you do to others, nor use it as a means to stimulate your vanity. Do all that you consider good for the sake of goodness, not even for a return of that from God. ~~~ "Sangatha I, Saluk", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) (http://www.evansvilledancesofuniversalpeace.org/resources/Artwork/WingedSufiBlue.gif) . Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jul 11, 2012 09:54 pm namaste !
thank you for your teachings murshid hazrat khan prayers to sanctify ! Do not bemoan the past, do not worry about the future, but try to make the best of today. Bowl of Saki, July 11, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan There is not anything one should not be ready to tolerate, and there is nobody whom one should not forgive. Never doubt those whom you trust; never hate those whom you love; never cast down those whom you once raise in your estimation. Wish to make friends with everyone you meet; make an effort to gain the friendship of those you find difficult ... No one is either higher or lower than oneself. In all sources that fulfill one's need, one may see one source, God, the only source; and in admiring and in bowing before and in loving anyone, one may consider one is doing it to God. In sorrow one may look to God, and in joy one may thank Him. One does not bemoan the past, nor worry about the future; one tries only to make the best of today. One should know no failure, for even in a fall there is a stepping-stone to rise. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_I_2.htm In Fitzgerald's translation of Omar Khayyam: 'O my Beloved, fill the cup that clears today of past regrets and future fears. Why, tomorrow I may be myself, with yesterday's sev'n thousand years!' By this he means: Make the best of this moment; it is now that you can clearly see eternity, if you live in this moment. But if you keep the world of the past or the world of the future before you, you do not live in eternity but in a limited world. In other words, live neither in the past nor in the future, but in eternity. It is now that we should try to discover that happiness which is to be found in the freedom of the soul. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIIIa/VIIIa_1_1.htm ~~~ Do not bemoan the past, do not worry about the future, but try to make the best of today. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Oct 18, 2012 07:35 pm The principles of mysticism rise from the heart of man; they are learnt by intuition and proved by reason.
(http://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik14.jpg) Bowl of Saki, October 18, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Quote One might ask why man has lost that intuitive faculty. It is because he has become so absorbed in material gain that he has become, as it were, intoxicated by the worldly life; and intuition, which is his birthright and his own property, has been lost from view. This does not mean that it is gone from him, only that it has become buried in his own heart. We are vehicles or instruments that respond. If we respond to goodness, goodness becomes our property. If we respond to evil, then evil becomes our property. If we respond to love, then love becomes our possession. If we respond to hatred, hatred becomes our life. And if we respond to the things of the earth so much that our whole life becomes absorbed in worldly things, then it is quite natural that we should not respond to those riches which are within us from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_4_3.htm As soon as intuition springs up, reason, its competitor, rises also and says, 'No, it is not so.' Then there is conflict in the mind and it is hard to distinguish, because there are two feelings at the same time. If one makes a habit of catching the first intuition and saving it from being destroyed by reason, then intuition is stronger and one can benefit by it. There are many intuitive people, but they cannot always distinguish between intuition and reason and sometimes they mix them up, for very often the second thought, being the last, is more clear to one than the first. Therefore, the intuition is forgotten and reason remembered. Then a person calls it intuition and it is not so. Reason and intuition are two competitors, and yet both have their place, their importance, and their value. The best thing would be first to try and catch the intuition and distinguish and know and recognize it as intuition; and then to reason it out. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IV/IV_37.htm Quote The principles of mysticism rise from the heart of man. They are learned by intuition and proved by reason. This is not only faith, though it is born of faith: it is faith with proof. http://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.phpfrom http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_1_17.htm My intuition, has thou ever deceived me? No, never. It is my reason which so often deludes me, for it comes from without; thou art rooted within my heart. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/say/vadan_alankaras.htm ~~~ The principles of mysticism rise from the heart of man; they are learnt by intuition and proved by reason. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: yoshi on Oct 19, 2012 02:06 am very nice posts dragonpie....pronams to you.
hazarat.....'his' soul shines through. soul 'speaks Truth'. if one desires to increase intuition....one needs to meditate....meditate upon god. we create our own reality. reality resides in our consciousness. is hell a place or a reality ? is heaven a place or reality ? (((love hugs om))) yoshi Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Nov 09, 2012 02:37 am thanks yoshi.
reality resides in our consciousness :) pronams to you friend =) here is todays saki Self-denial is not renouncing things, it is denying the self; and the first lesson of self-denial is humility. (http://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik85.jpg) Bowl of Saki, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Quote There is a story of a dervish who spoke with a young man who was very interested in his words of wisdom. The young man said, 'If I come to your part of the world, I will come to see you. Will you tell me where you live?' The dervish replied, 'I live in the place of the liars'. ... When he went to that country and asked for the dervish, the people said, 'We do not know any place of liars, but there is a dervish living somewhere here'. So they took him near the graveyard where the dervish lived. The first question the young man asked was, 'Why did you give me a name which is not the name of the place?' The dervish replied, 'Yes, this is a place of liars'. It was the graveyard. He said, 'Come with me, I shall show you. This here is a tomb, they say, of a general. Where is his sword, where is his power, where is his voice, what is he now? Is he a general? Here, this one was called a prime-minister. Where is his ministry, where is his office, where is his pen, where is his power? In the same ground! This person was called a judge. Whom is he judging now? He is in the ground. Were they not liars? Did they not tell a lie saying I am so and so, and I am such and such?' from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_16.htm Quote There is a beautiful story told of the King Akbar that when he was grieving with an almost ungovernable grief over the death of his mother, his ministers and friends tried to comfort him by influence and power. Akbar replied, "Yes, that is true, and that only makes my grief greater; for while I have everyone to bow before me, to give way to me, to salute me and obey me, my mother was the one person before whom I could humble myself; and I cannot tell you how great a joy that was to me." http://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_new.phpThink then of the far greater joy of humbling oneself before the Father-Mother God on Whose Love one can always depend. A spark only of love expresses itself in the human father and mother; the Whole of Love in God. In whatever manner a man humbles himself it can never be enough to express the humility of the limited self before Limitless Perfection. Self-denial is not renouncing of things, it is denying the self; and the first lesson of self-denial is humility. :) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Nov 21, 2012 12:34 am Bowl of Saki for November 20
(http://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik55.jpg) It is the soul's light which is natural intelligence. Bowl of Saki, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Quote Coming to the cause of the lack of joy, one realizes by pondering on the subject that it is not pursuing after joy that results in disappointment, it is the wrong method adopted in the pursuit of joy which brings, instead of joy, sorrow or disappointment. ... Nothing can take away joy from the man who has right understanding. Through all conditions of life he will retain it, but the one who lacks understanding, nothing in the world or Heaven there is which can bring him a lasting joy. This shows that, in reality, joy does not come from the external life, though always it seems so. Joy has only one source and that is the heart of man, which is the globe over his soul's light. ~~~ "Sangatha III, Tasawwuf ", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) The soul has the tendency to look forward to what is going to be, or at what has been in the past. It is the light of our soul, the intelligence that does this. Intelligence working through physical means is no greater than intellect. But intelligence working freely and independently from physical means is wisdom. And wisdom is not cleverness, but infinitely superior to it. Wisdom works independently of the physical means, and therefore, requires intuition. The clever person works by means of his physical body, but the wise person works independently of it. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_20.htm The Qur'an says, 'God is the Light of the heavens and of the earth;' and if there is any spark of God that can be found in man, it is his intelligence. Naturally, therefore, when this divine light which is hidden in man is once brought to a blaze and has risen as a flame, it illuminates his path towards perfection. http://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_new.php Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Katze on Nov 24, 2012 12:01 pm Thank you for all your sharings of Saki ! :)
Nitewish Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Feb 22, 2013 11:30 am Bowl of Saki for February 22
Life is an opportunity given to satisfy the hunger and thirst of the soul. (http://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik90.jpg) Bowl of Saki, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Quote Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan http://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_new.phpAnd what is life? Life is an opportunity. To the optimistic person the opportunity is a promise, and for the pessimistic person this opportunity is lost. It is not that the Creator makes man lose it, but it is man who withdraws himself from the possibility of seizing the opportunity. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_2_9.htm If there is something that can be accomplished today, we need not wait for it to be accomplished tomorrow. For life is an opportunity, and desire has the greatest power, and perfection is the promise of the soul. We seek perfection, because perfection is the ultimate aim and the goal of creation. The source of all things is perfect. Our source is perfect, our goal is perfect. And therefore every atom of the universe is working towards perfection, and sooner or later it must arrive at perfection consciously. If it were not so, you would not have read in the Bible, 'Be ye perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect.' from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_IV_10.htm Kabir, the great poet of India says, 'Life is a field and you are born to cultivate it. And if you know how to cultivate this field you can produce anything you like. All the need of your life can be produced in this field. All that your soul yearns after and all you need is to be got from the field, if you know how to cultivate it and how to reap the fruit.' But if this opportunity is only studied in order to make the best of life by taking all that one can take and by being more comfortable, that is not satisfying. We must enrich ourselves with thought, with that happiness which is spiritual happiness, with that peace which belongs to our soul, with that liberty, that freedom, for which our soul longs; and attain to that higher knowledge which breaks all the fetters of life and raises our consciousness to look at life from a different point of view. Once a person has realized this opportunity he has fulfilled the purpose of Life. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_16.htm ~~~ Life is an opportunity given to satisfy the hunger and thirst of the soul. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 21, 2013 08:24 pm Dragonpie I wonder did this man live his life in Pakistan? We are very fortunate to have this wisdom trickling into our culture.
During for instance the Civil War we had limited access to other cultures. The 60's in America brought a renewal of cultural influence from the East. Now it is open to us if we take the opportunity as Hazrat Khan said in your last post. Jitendra Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 21, 2013 08:40 pm Bowl of Saki for February 22 Life is an opportunity given to satisfy the hunger and thirst of the soul. (http://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik90.jpg) Bowl of Saki, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Quote Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan http://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_new.phpAnd what is life? Life is an opportunity. To the optimistic person the opportunity is a promise, and for the pessimistic person this opportunity is lost. It is not that the Creator makes man lose it, but it is man who withdraws himself from the possibility of seizing the opportunity. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_2_9.htm If there is something that can be accomplished today, we need not wait for it to be accomplished tomorrow. For life is an opportunity, and desire has the greatest power, and perfection is the promise of the soul. We seek perfection, because perfection is the ultimate aim and the goal of creation. The source of all things is perfect. Our source is perfect, our goal is perfect. And therefore every atom of the universe is working towards perfection, and sooner or later it must arrive at perfection consciously. If it were not so, you would not have read in the Bible, 'Be ye perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect.' from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_IV_10.htm Kabir, the great poet of India says, 'Life is a field and you are born to cultivate it. And if you know how to cultivate this field you can produce anything you like. All the need of your life can be produced in this field. All that your soul yearns after and all you need is to be got from the field, if you know how to cultivate it and how to reap the fruit.' But if this opportunity is only studied in order to make the best of life by taking all that one can take and by being more comfortable, that is not satisfying. We must enrich ourselves with thought, with that happiness which is spiritual happiness, with that peace which belongs to our soul, with that liberty, that freedom, for which our soul longs; and attain to that higher knowledge which breaks all the fetters of life and raises our consciousness to look at life from a different point of view. Once a person has realized this opportunity he has fulfilled the purpose of Life. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_16.htm ~~~ Life is an opportunity given to satisfy the hunger and thirst of the soul. Here are the quotes about opportunity that you gave us Eric. Paramshansa Yogananda has a book out about India's poet Kabir. Like Hazrat, he recognized the great spirituality in the poet Kabir.I see you requoted Kabir at the bottom. Comfort Iis not satisfying. How many of us in the culture we live in actually realize this truth and continue our great opportunity? J. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Sep 09, 2013 05:33 am Ah ! Alas, I can return to the unseen world and feel the comforts of Home surround me. My Saki, easily accessible to all and yet untampered with so that my Drink Remain For Seekers alike. From North to South and East to West, come- Sip and Relish on.
Today, again, we toast to the wisdoms of Mr. Inayat Khan. And so, sometimes the simplest of understandings remain a float just above our Conscious- what was once an easy Hurdle is now a Profound Engagement to the Transformation that is our Lives. Please, flip through these pages and Embrace the Alchemist within. It is my Hopes that my Saki be shared for those Who Wish To Drink. :) -------- Bowl of Saki for September 8 (http://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik64.jpg) The soul is either raised or cast down by the power of its own thought, speech and action. Bowl of Saki, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan One should say to the mind, 'Look here, you are my mind, you are my instrument. You are my slave and servant. You are here to help me, to work for me in this world. You have to listen to me. You will do whatever I wish. You will think whatever I wish. You will feel whatever I wish. You will not think or feel differently from my wishes, for you are my mind and you must prove in the end to be mine.' By doing this we begin to analyze our mind. We begin to see where it is wrong and where it is right. What is wrong in it and what is right in it; whether it is clouded, whether it is rusted, whether it has become too cool or whether it has become over-heated. We can train it ourselves, in accordance with its condition, and it is we who are the best trainers of our mind, better than anybody else in the world. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XI/XI_II_15.htm Each individual composes the music of his own life. If he injures another, he brings disharmony. When his sphere is disturbed, he is disturbed himself, and there is a discord in the melody of his life. If he can quicken the feeling of another to joy or to gratitude, by that much he adds to his own life; he becomes himself by that much more alive. Whether conscious of it or not, his thought is affected for the better by the joy or gratitude of another, and his power and vitality increase thereby, and the music of his life grows more in harmony. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_I_2.htm The heart must be tuned to the stage and the pitch where one feels at-one-ment with persons, objects, and conditions. For instance, when one cannot bear the climate, it only means that one is not in harmony with the climate; when one cannot get on with persons, that one is not in harmony with them; when one cannot get on with certain affairs, that one is not in harmony with those affairs. If conditions seem hard, it shows that one is not in harmony with the conditions. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IV/IV_37.htm The most important subject to study in this whole life is ourselves. What we generally do is to criticize others, speak ill of them, or dislike them; but we always excuse ourselves. The right idea is to watch our own attitude, our own thought and speech and action, and to examine ourselves to see how we react upon all things in our favor and in our disfavor, to see whether we show wisdom and control in our reactions or whether we are without control and thought. Then we should also study our body, for by this we should learn that the body is not only a means of experiencing life by eating and drinking and making ourselves comfortable, but that it is the sacred temple of God. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XII/XII_I_9.htm ~~~ The soul is either raised or cast down by the power of its own thought, speech and action. http://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_new.php Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jan 10, 2014 06:04 pm Bowl of Saki for January 10
An ideal is beyond explanation. To analyze God is to dethrone God. Bowl of Saki, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Belief is like a staircase. Each step takes one higher, but when one remains standing on a certain step of the staircase one does not progress. Belief may nail the feet to the ground and keep one there ... standing on a certain spot on a staircase. As a person evolves so his belief evolves, until he comes to that stage where he harmonizes with all the different beliefs, where he is no longer against any belief. Then he is not nailed down any more; he is above all the different beliefs. Very often a person says, 'I cannot understand what God is. Can you explain God to me? But if God were to be explained He would not be God. To explain God is to dethrone God. God apart, can one explain anything fine and subtle such as gratitude, love, or devotion, in words? How much can be explained? Words are too inadequate to explain great feelings, so how can God be explained in words? from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XII/XII_I_1.htm Since to analyze God means to dethrone God, the less said on the subject the better. ... Everyone has his own imagination of God. It is best if everyone is left to his own imagination. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_30.htm However religious or pious, he cannot explain God; not even a mystic or philosopher can explain Him. The ideal of God is the first lesson that must be learnt; and it cannot be learnt by analysis. Therefore the intellectual mind which seeks for an analysis of God is always sure to be disappointed. The philosopher spoke truly when he said, 'To analyze God is to dethrone God.' Analysis can never portray even the ideal of God. That is why every messenger, Muhammad, Christ, Moses, Abraham, emphasized the one word: faith. ... It is the same with every ideal, even with the ideal of God. An ideal is beyond explanation. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_12.htm ~~~ An ideal is beyond explanation. To analyze God is to dethrone God. http://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_new.php Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: brock on Feb 25, 2014 04:36 am These are some very beautiful sayings.
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Mar 06, 2014 05:29 am Man creates his own disharmony.
Bowl of Saki, by Hazrat Inayat Khan (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik9.jpg) Quote Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Feelings such as pride, conceit, selfishness, jealousy, envy and contempt are all feelings which hurt others and which destroy one's own life making it full of the misery which springs from that selfish personal feeling, that ego of man. The more egoistic, the more conceited he is, the more miserable a life he has in the world, the more he makes the lives of others miserable. ... it is in the world that, growing up, he creates all this and this creation is called nafs or ego. Yet at the same time in the depth of the heart there is that goodness which is the divine goodness, that righteousness which man has inherited from the Father in heaven. ... Man creates his own disharmony in his soul and then treats others in the same way; therefore he is not satisfied with his own life, nor is he satisfied with others because he feels that he has a complaint against others, although mostly it is caused by himself. What he gives he receives back, but he never sees that. He always thinks: what the depth of his being yearns for -- love, goodness, righteousness, harmony and peace -- everybody must give to him. But for him when it comes to giving he does not give because he lives in the other life he has created. ... But when a revolution comes in the life of a man, as soon as he begins to see deeply into life, to acquire goodness -- not only to get but to give -- as soon as he begins to enjoy not only the sympathy of others but giving sympathy to others, then comes a period when he begins to see this Satan-spirit as apart from his real original being, standing before him constantly in conflict with his natural force, freedom and inclination. ... The mystery of perfection lies in annihilation -- not in annihilation of the real self, but of the false self, of the false conception which man has cherished in his heart and always has allowed to torture his life. ... God speaks to everyone, not only to the messengers and teachers. He speaks to the ears of every heart, but it is not every heart which hears it. His voice is louder than the thunder, and His light is clearer than the sun -- if one could only see it, if one could only hear it. In order to see it and in order to hear it man should remove this wall, this barrier which he has made of the self. Then he becomes the flute upon which the divine Player may play the music of Orpheus which can charm even the hearts of stone; then he rises from the cross into the life everlasting. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Mar 08, 2014 07:13 am Bowl of Saki for March 7
It is false love that does not uproot man's claim of "I"; the first and last lesson of love is "I am not". Bowl of Saki, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Quote It is not love, but the pretense of love, that imposes the claim of the self. The first and last lesson in love is, 'I am not -- Thou art' and unless man is moved to that selflessness he does not know justice, right or truth. His self stands above or between him and God. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_7.htm There is no greater teacher of morals than love itself, for the first lesson that one learns from love is, 'I am not, you are.' This is self-denial, self-abnegation, without which we cannot take the first step on love's path. One may claim to be a great lover, to be a great admirer, to be very affectionate, but it all means nothing as long as the thought of self is there, for there is no love. But when the thought of self is removed, then every action, every deed that one performs in life, becomes a virtue. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_1.htm He who says, 'I love you but only so much, I love you and give you sixpence but I keep sixpence for myself, I love you but I stand at a distance and never come closer, we are separate beings'- his love is with his self. As long as that exists, love has not done its full work. Love accomplishes its work when it spreads its wings and veils man's self from his own eyes. That is the time when love is fulfilled, and so it is in the life of the holy ones who have not only loved God by professing or showing it, but who have loved God to the extent that they forgot themselves. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_2_22.htm Man is here on earth for this one purpose, that he may bring forth that spirit of God in him and thus discover his own perfection. The three stages towards this perfection are the following. The first stage is to make God as great and as perfect as your imagination can. .... The second stage is the work of the heart... The first lesson that love teaches us is: 'I am not. Thou art.' The first thing to think of is to erase ourselves from our minds and to think of the one we love. As long as we do not arrive at this idea, so long the word love remains only in the dictionary. Many speak about love but very few know it. Is love a pastime, an amusement, a drama; is it a performance? The first lesson of love is sacrifice, service, self-effacement. ... To close the eyes for prayer is one thing, and to produce the love of God is another thing. That is the second stage in spiritual realization, where, in the thought of God, one begins to lose oneself in the same way that the lover loses the thought of self in the thought of the beloved. And the third stage is different again. In the third stage the Beloved becomes the Self, and the self is there no more. For then the self, as we think it to be, no longer remains. The self becomes what it really is. It is that realization which is called Self-realization. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_30.htm ~~~ It is false love that does not uproot man's claim of "I"; the first and last lesson of love is "I am not". Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Apr 09, 2014 07:13 pm Bowl of Saki for April 9
Things are worthwhile when we seek them; only then do we know their value. Quote Bowl of Saki, by Hazrat Inayat Khan http://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_new.phpCommentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Very often people ask, 'How long has one to go on the spiritual path?' There is no limit to the length of this path, and yet if one is ready, it does not need a long time. It is a moment and one is there. How true it is, what the wise of past ages said to their followers, 'Do not go directly into the temple; first walk around it fifty times!' The meaning was, first get tired and then enter. Then you value it. One values something for which one makes an effort. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_IV_2.htm The adept values his object of attaining the inner life more than anything else in life. As long as he does not really value it, so long he remains unable to attain it. That is the first condition: that man should value the inner life more than anything else in the world, more than wealth, power, position, rank, or anything else. It does not mean that in this world he should not pursue the things he needs. It means he should value most something which is really worthwhile. The next thing is that when one begins to value something one thinks it is worthwhile giving time to it. For in the modern world it is said that time is money, and money today means the most valuable thing. So if a person gives his precious time to what he considers most worthwhile, more so than anything else in the world, then that is certainly the next step towards the inner life. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_22.htm There are really two journeys. There is the journey from the goal to the life in the world, and there is the journey from the life in the world to the goal. And both journeys are natural. As it is natural to go forth from the eternal goal, so it is natural to go from the changing life to the life which is unchangeable. Which is the most desirable thing in life, to seek for the goal or to dwell in this changing life? The answer is that every person's desire is according to his evolution. That for which he is ready is desirable for him. Milk is a desirable food for the infant, other foods for the grown-up person. Every stage in life has its own appropriate and desirable things. The desire to attain to a goal must be there before reaching it; when he does not feel the desire, it is not necessary for a man to seek it. All things are worthwhile when we seek after them; then only do we appreciate their value; then only are we happy to have them. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_30.htm ~~~ Things are worthwhile when we seek them; only then do we know their value. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jul 19, 2014 02:55 pm Quote Everybody has an ideal in life, and that ideal is the religion of his soul (http://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik4.jpg) The soul's true happiness lies in experiencing the inner joy, and it will never be fully satisfied with outer, seeming pleasures. Its connection is with God, and nothing short of perfection will ever satisfy it. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jul 20, 2014 10:54 am Quote Everybody has an ideal in life, and that ideal is the religion of his soul (http://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik4.jpg) The soul's true happiness lies in experiencing the inner joy, and it will never be fully satisfied with outer, seeming pleasures. Its connection is with God, and nothing short of perfection will ever satisfy it. Spiritually speaking we are always being 'tweaked' for me the biggest impediments are dry periods and challenging circumstances that seemingly rob our spiritual aspirations. Yet i have always heard these are tests along the way. This is what makes a saint: They never gave up. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Dec 11, 2014 10:17 pm Bowl of Saki for December 11
When the artist loses himself in his art, then the art comes to life. (http://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik60.jpg) Bowl of Saki, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan One must not only be an artist; one must become art itself. Then to the one who is so absorbed in his work that he forgets himself, that capacity, that intuition, that skill will come naturally. He begins to do wonders, and his art becomes a perfect expression of what he had in mind. ... People think that it is the artist who has made it; in reality, it is God who has perfected it. As it is God's pleasure to create the world, so it is also God's pleasure to create through pen and brush and chisel, to give life to what is lifeless. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_4_8.htm The artist who has arrived at some perfection in his art, whatever his art may be, will come to realize that it is not he who ever achieved anything; it is someone else who came forward every time. And when the artist produces a perfect thing, he finds it difficult to imagine that it has been produced by him. He can do nothing but bow his head in humility before that unseen power and wisdom which takes his body, his heart, his brain, and his eyes as its instrument. Whenever beauty is produced in art, be it music, or poetry, or painting, or writing, or anything else, one must never think that man produced it. It is through man that God completes His creation. Thus there is nothing that is done in this world or in heaven that is not divine immanence, which is not divine creation. ... What is art? Art is the creation of beauty in whatever form it is created. As long as an artist thinks that whatever he creates in the form of art is his own creation, and as long as he is vain about his creation, he has not learned true art. True art can only come on one condition, and that is that the artist forgets himself -- that he forgets himself in the vision of beauty. ... We are vehicles or instruments that respond. If we respond to goodness, goodness becomes our property. If we respond to evil, then evil becomes our property. If we respond to love, then love becomes our possession. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_4_3.htm ~~~ When the artist loses himself in his art, then the art comes to life. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Dec 11, 2014 10:51 pm Thank - You
What Hazrat Khan says about art here means a lot to me. It is an example of how are attitude should be in creating. i have never heard it said with so much humility.. ..."And when the artist produces a perfect thing, he finds it difficult to imagine that it has been produced by him. He can do nothing but bow his head in humility before that unseen power and wisdom which takes his body, his heart, his brain, and his eyes as its instrument. Whenever beauty is produced in art, be it music, or poetry, or painting, or writing, or anything else, one must never think that man produced it. It is through man that God completes His creation." Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Dec 31, 2014 06:23 pm ...In all ages the various religions have given different standards of good and evil, calling them virtue and sin. The virtue of one nation has been the sin of another. The virtue of the latter is the sin of the former. Travel as we may through the world, or read the histories and traditions of nations as we may, we shall still find that what one calls evil, another calls good. That is why no one can succeed in making a universal standard for good and evil. The discrimination between good and evil is in man's soul. Every man can judge that for himself, because in every man is the sense of admiration of beauty. But he is not satisfied with what he does himself, he feels a discomfort, a disgust with his own efforts. There are many people who continue some weakness or some mistake, or who are intoxicated by some action which the world calls evil or which they themselves call evil, yet go on doing it. But a day comes when they also are disgusted. Then they wish for suicide. There is no more happiness for them. Happiness only lies in thinking or doing that which one considers beautiful. Such an act becomes a virtue or goodness. That goodness is beauty.
Happiness lies in thinking or doing that which one considers beautiful. Bowl of Saki, by Hazrat Inayat Khan What is really good? The answer is, there is no such thing as good or evil. There is beauty. That which is beautiful, we call good. That which is ugly compared with the beautiful, we call evil: whether it is custom, idea, thought or action. This shows that this whole phenomenon of the universe is the phenomenon of beauty. Every soul has an inclination to admire beauty, to seek for beauty, to love beauty, and to develop beauty. Even God loves beauty. Man is always seeking for beauty, and yet he is unaware of the treasure of beauty that is hidden in his own heart. He strives after it throughout his whole life. It is as if he was in pursuit of the horizon: the further he proceeds, the further the horizon seems to have moved away. For there are two aims: the one is real, and the other false. That which is false is momentary, transitory, and unreliable - wealth, power, fame, and position are all snatched from one hand by the other. ... Man wants something in life upon which he can rely; and this shows, whether he believes in a deity or not, that he is constantly seeking for God. He seeks for Him not knowing that he is seeking for God. Nevertheless, every soul is pursuing some reality, something to hold on to; trying to grasp something which will prove dependable, a beauty that cannot change and that one can always look upon as one's own, a beauty that one feels will last forever. And where can one find it? Within one's own heart. And it is the art of finding that beauty, of developing, improving, and spreading that beauty through life, allowing it to manifest before the inner and outer view, which one calls the art of the mystic. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_4_3.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jan 19, 2016 10:47 pm fast forward to tomorrows wisdoms for today ;D
(http://amytorresacim.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/sufiheart.jpg) To treat every human being as a shrine of God is to fulfill all religion. Bowl of Saki, January 20, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Quote Where is the shrine of God? It is in the heart of man. As soon as one begins to consider the feelings of another, one begins to worship God. ... There is a story of a murshid who was going with his mureeds to visit some village, and he was keeping a fast. The mureeds also had taken a vow of fasting. They arrived at the peasants' home where there was great enthusiasm and happiness and where a dinner was arranged for them. When they were invited to the table, the murshid went and sat down; but the mureeds did not dare because they had taken a vow of fasting. Yet they would never mention it to the murshid. They thought, 'Murshid is forgetful; Murshid has forgotten the vow.' After dinner was over and they went out the pupils asked, 'Did you not forget the vow of fasting?' 'No,' was the murshid's answer, 'I had not forgotten. But I preferred breaking the fast rather than the heart of that man who with all his enthusiasm had prepared the food.' from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_13.htmThe thirst for life makes us overlook little opportunities of doing good. Every moment of life brings an opportunity for being conscious of human feeling, in prosperity, in adversity, in all conditions. It costs very little; only a little thought is necessary. ... There is no greater religion than love. God is love; and the best form of love is to be conscientious regarding the feelings of those with whom we come in contact in everyday life. (https://rabbaniway.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/mevlana_wajd-ecstasy-sufism.jpg) Quote How beautiful are the words of the Prophet: 'The shrine of God is the heart of man.' How true that is! ... He who understands this can worship God even in man. For when he abides by this philosophy he will always be aware that in every aspect and at every moment he may be injuring or hurting the feelings of God, that he is in danger of breaking the shrine of God in breaking the heart of his fellow man. ... What does all this teach us? It is all a lesson in sympathy for one's fellow man, to teach us to share in his troubles, in his despair. For whoever really experiences this joy of life, finds that it becomes so great that it fills his heart and his soul. It does not matter if he has fewer comforts or an inferior position than many in this world, because the light of his kindness, of his sympathy, of the love that is growing, the virtue that is springing up in his heart, all fill the soul with light. There is nothing now that he lacks in life, for he has become the king of it. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_1.htmTitle: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Mar 11, 2016 07:53 pm Man sees what he sees; beyond it he cannot see. Bowl of Saki, March 11, by Hazrat Inayat Khan When an ordinary or an illiterate person meets a poet, he sees the man-part and not the poet-part. But if he is told that this person is a poet he may see the poet-part when he meets him. He now sees that he is a poet in his actions and in his words; in everything about him he sees the poet, whereas otherwise he would not have been able to see this. Thus a great poet may go among a crowd and the people will only see the man in him; they do not see the poet, and they do not know how profound his thoughts are. So once a person begins to recognize God in man he does not see the man any more but God. The man is the surface, while God is deep within him. Such recognition brings a person into touch with everyone's innermost being, and then he knows more about people than they know themselves. ... Divine perfection is perfection in all powers and mysteries. All these are manifested without specially striving for them. Perfection and annihilation is that stage where there is no longer 'I' and no longer 'you', where there is what there is. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XII/XII_I_12.htm http://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.php Well now... I do believe I've already shared this lovely insight from Hazrat Inayat Khan... Oh dear! Perhaps I drink too heavily ;D Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 15, 2016 06:04 am Man sees what he sees; beyond it he cannot see. Bowl of Saki, March 11, by Hazrat Inayat Khan When an ordinary or an illiterate person meets a poet, he sees the man-part and not the poet-part. But if he is told that this person is a poet he may see the poet-part when he meets him. He now sees that he is a poet in his actions and in his words; in everything about him he sees the poet, whereas otherwise he would not have been able to see this. Thus a great poet may go among a crowd and the people will only see the man in him; they do not see the poet, and they do not know how profound his thoughts are. So once a person begins to recognize God in man he does not see the man any more but God. The man is the surface, while God is deep within him. Such recognition brings a person into touch with everyone's innermost being, and then he knows more about people than they know themselves. ... Divine perfection is perfection in all powers and mysteries. All these are manifested without specially striving for them. Perfection and annihilation is that stage where there is no longer 'I' and no longer 'you', where there is what there is. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XII/XII_I_12.htm http://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.php Well now... I do believe I've already shared this lovely insight from Hazrat Inayat Khan... Oh dear! Perhaps I drink too heavily ;D Eric i found this to be an interesting quote: "So once a person begins to recognize God in man he does not see the man any more but God. The man is the surface, while God is deep within him. Such recognition brings a person into touch with everyone's innermost being, and then he knows more about people than they know themselves." i believe many of us have glimpses of this in others. The difficulty arises when our glimpses do not correlate with the outer conformation. This is somewhat confusing and i have not come to terms with it yet... perhaps i will though. When Amma 'sees' those she blesses she sees that part of them that is God she is able to look beyond the rest. Can you imagine that? To actually see God in others and not what most people see in their brothers and sisters in the world. How can we cultivate that kind of love? It is part of a higher consciousness to want to see more of what i have had glimpses of in others i have known and met. And this quote; "When an ordinary or an illiterate person meets a poet, he sees the man-part and not the poet-part. But if he is told that this person is a poet he may see the poet-part when he meets him. He now sees that he is a poet in his actions and in his words; in everything about him he sees the poet, whereas otherwise he would not have been able to see this. Thus a great poet may go among a crowd and the people will only see the man in him; they do not see the poet, and they do not know how profound his thoughts are." Today i practiced music with a woman who is a true poet. Her vibration still lingers on within in me. It is as though we feel the presence of people who emanate something profound. It surrounds us and seeps into us as well. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Mar 30, 2016 10:56 pm This is taken from The Sufi Message of Hazrat Inayat Khan: The Sufi Teachings
found here: https://books.google.com/books?isbn=161310667X " does the sufi seek the presence of god? does he depend upon the meditation of any prophet or master? to this also the answer is no. he does not seek the presence of god, because where there is a presence there is duality, and his aim is unity. in unity there can be no presence. he does not seek to attach himself to any master for ever. he has no wish to go to heaven, because he sees that heaven is everywhere. once imagination has helped a man to bring the presence of god before him, god is awakened in his own heart. then before he utters a word it is heard by god; when he is praying in a room, he is not alone: he is there with god. to him god is not in the highest heaven, but beside him, before him, in him; then heaven is on earth and earth is heaven; then no one is as living to him as god, as intelligible to him as god, and the names and forms before his consciousness are all covered by him. then every word of prayer he utters is a living word. " Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 31, 2016 12:43 am This is taken from The Sufi Message of Hazrat Inayat Khan: The Sufi Teachings found here: https://books.google.com/books?isbn=161310667X " does the sufi seek the presence of god? does he depend upon the meditation of any prophet or master? to this also the answer is no. he does not seek the presence of god, because where there is a presence there is duality, and his aim is unity. in unity there can be no presence. he does not seek to attach himself to any master for ever. he has no wish to go to heaven, because he sees that heaven is everywhere. once imagination has helped a man to bring the presence of god before him, god is awakened in his own heart. then before he utters a word it is heard by god; when he is praying in a room, he is not alone: he is there with god. to him god is not in the highest heaven, but beside him, before him, in him; then heaven is on earth and earth is heaven; then no one is as living to him as god, as intelligible to him as god, and the names and forms before his consciousness are all covered by him. then every word of prayer he utters is a living word. " While i have been inspired by much of the Sufis posts... There are obviously some differences of view Eric. i must say that if it was not for the spiritual meditation techniques of the east i would still not find much pleasure in meditation. These techniques that were developed by the gurus have helped me interiorize and feel the presence of peace and at times joy and have exposed me to realms and miracles i honestly can say would not be possible with out their help. They were specifically given to Chelas (devotees) and there is help from those Masters and blessings in practice. i have indeed witnessed this help at Ammas and Yoganandas ashrams and in seeing them. i have evidence of the miracles assocaited with being in their presence and practicing their techniques. Seeking the presence and finding the presence of God comes with the peace that is the first sign of Gods presence. i feel this peace associated with God's presence quite regularly. Deeper states of meditation... hearing the om...hearing the heavenly music... seeing the light and merging into a larger presence are all experiences associated with the gurus, Masters and meditation. Soon i will write what Amma had to say about having a Guru. i would be interested to know your response. However i will end this statement with an important point. Every path for each individual is their own. i have no rite to question your views or your practices only to stand up for my own. We are grateful for your posts and your point of view Eric! This video below can give you and idea of what it is like to meet or be in the presence of a great Spiritual Master and given His/Her blessings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc5fGW7O0Gs Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: b on Mar 31, 2016 02:05 am This is taken from The Sufi Message of Hazrat Inayat Khan: The Sufi Teachings found here: https://books.google.com/books?isbn=161310667X " does the sufi seek the presence of god? does he depend upon the meditation of any prophet or master? to this also the answer is no. he does not seek the presence of god, because where there is a presence there is duality, and his aim is unity. in unity there can be no presence. he does not seek to attach himself to any master for ever. he has no wish to go to heaven, because he sees that heaven is everywhere. once imagination has helped a man to bring the presence of god before him, god is awakened in his own heart. then before he utters a word it is heard by god; when he is praying in a room, he is not alone: he is there with god. to him god is not in the highest heaven, but beside him, before him, in him; then heaven is on earth and earth is heaven; then no one is as living to him as god, as intelligible to him as god, and the names and forms before his consciousness are all covered by him. then every word of prayer he utters is a living word. " This is significant. My understanding is that if a person can feel this, then they have no need of methods. If they don't feel this then methods are devised. As Steve said, it is entirely individual. I think mass instruction is a bit of a compromise. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 31, 2016 07:47 pm We have really appreciated these inspirational talks from the Bowl of Saki. Occasional differing views are hopefully accepted. i have always hoped to accept them in others. Perhaps i voice them quite strongly sometimes though. Do u think that is the case? If Hazrat Inayat Khan was here now talking with us i have a feeling that a man of that spiritual status would be receptive to other peoples spiritual values. He just seems unprejudiced in that sense. So that's something to think about! Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Dec 05, 2016 09:29 pm hi steve,i think you're right. perhaps because from the spiritual views of others there is a recognizable truth shared among them.
(https://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik32.jpg) Enviable is he who loveth and asketh no return. Bowl of Saki, by Hazrat Inayat Khan A person is apt to think, 'Why should I perform actions that bring me no return? Why should I be kind, where no kindness is shown to me, where there is even no appreciation?' In this way he commercializes his kindness: he gives in order to receive. ... When one loves one must love for the sake of love, not for a return. When one serves one must serve for the sake of service, not for acknowledgement. In everything a person does, if he does not think of reciprocity or appreciation in any manner or form, he may perhaps seem a loser in the beginning, but in the end that person will be the gainer, for he has lived in the world and yet held himself above the world; it cannot touch him. http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_28.htm ~~~ Enviable is he who loveth and asketh no return. https://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_new.php sufism has existed before inayat khan, christianity, judaism or islam Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Dec 06, 2016 02:14 am Reciprocity.
I have a comment Eric. i can agree on what he is saying accept for this word. We can easily find projects that are more meaningful if someone misuses us. For most of us we can also find people who are appreciative so there is really no use in giving to something that only goes down the drain. Let us think this one out a bit. We only have so many hours in a day. Why waste it on people who have little regard for others? It is best to put our energies where they can grow and we can really help others. Some people do not want our help nor do they even understand it. There are also those who we may spend time with who will willingly drain your energies, money and service with little or no regard for you. Eric you sell cars. I do not think you would continue your service without the reciprocity and acknowledgement of your service by being payed for your services. Your very survival depends on it. Is this 'commertializing' your services? There have been people who have entered my life and who I spent a lot of time with that actually discouraged spiritual life. I really need to recognize that they have no intentions of meditating and would only discourage my efforts. I may enjoy their company but they have a lack of understanding of me and thus can show no reciprocity and actually discourage my spiritual efforts. Haven't you found this true also? When and if they call again I certainly will be friendly and give them a chance again, as I would like to be given, but to not listen to the voice of experience is to be knocked over the head over and over. So to spend very much time with them will only enable them to continue their lifestyle and stifle my own. I will say this though... A Master has no need for reciprocity since he already has everything he could possibly want yet even as disciples we can help/support a Master's goals and projects here on earth. I wonder how others respond to my comments. Hazrat Inayat Khan has been a refreshing inspiration here at the portal. I may not agree or understand what he has said at various times. That does not take from the significance of his wisdom. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Dec 10, 2016 03:00 am hi steve,
i'm glad you find wisdom from these inspirational messages. cheers. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Dec 29, 2016 05:21 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik53.jpg)
A gain or a loss which is momentary is not real; if we knew realities we should never grieve over the loss of anything that experience shows to be only transitory. Bowl of Saki, December 29, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan In life we discriminate between two things: the real and the false. We think more of the real and less of the false. We discriminate between imitation gold and real gold; we pay more for the real gold because it is more lasting. The two samples of gold may be equally bright; hence it is evident that the value we attach to things is in proportion to their lasting power. Similarly, if we could see what things in life are lasting or passing, we should discriminate between real loss and false loss, real gain and false gain. The gain or loss which is momentary is not real. So, too, joy or sorrow is a momentary state; the joy over a gain today may tomorrow prove to be a sorrow. If we knew the realities, we should never grieve over the loss of things which experience shows to be only of a transient character. ... For every gain, however, there is a need for sacrifice. To gain anything we have to sacrifice something; to pursue two gains is to lose both. Therefore it is necessary to decide once and for all what is false, and then to follow the real and leave the false. If there is such a thing as saintly renunciation, it is renouncing small gains for better gains; not for no gains, but seeing with open eyes what is better and what is inferior. Even if the choice has to lie between two momentary gains, one of these would always be found to be more real and lasting; that is the one that should be followed for the time. When we take the torch of wisdom to show us our path through life, we will end by realizing what is really profitable in life and what is not. https://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.php Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jan 13, 2017 02:16 am Peace is perfected activity; that is perfect which is complete in all its aspects, balanced in each direction and under complete control of the will. (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik91.jpg)
Bowl of Saki, January 12, by Hazrat Inayat Khan https://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.php ... Peace is independently felt within oneself. It is not dependent upon the outer sensation. It is something that belongs to one, something that is one's own self. ... The secret of mysticism, the mystery of philosophy, all is to be attained after the attainment of peace. You cannot refuse to recognize the divine in a person who is a person of peace. ... And now the question is what makes one lack peace? The answer is, love of sensation. A person who is always seeking to experience life in movement, in activity, in whatever form, wants more and more of that experience. In the end he becomes dependent upon the life which is outside, and so he loses in the end his peace, the peace which is his real self. ... the first thing is to seek the kingdom of God within ourselves, in which there is our peace. As soon as we have found that, we have found our support, we have found our self. And in spite of all the activity and movement on the surface, we shall be able to keep that peace undisturbed if only we hold it fast by becoming conscious of it. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jan 23, 2017 08:28 pm I am witnessing a confirmation of sorts. Steve there was a bit on relaxation that you had mentioned and the same day the bowl of saki had something to say on it as well. All of last night and this morning my thoughts have been on will power and liberty. Steve, your efforts in meditation and being a vegetarian to me means you're living, in part, according to your will. In this world of distraction, to many people do not live according to their own will. I regrettably, am one of these people.
Today the Saki confirms my thoughts... Just as you have unknowingly confirmed mine Steve. My mind is making connections with the world around me. Thoughts and desires to satisfy something on deeper level are being confirmed in a "coincidental way". I do not believe it is my mind alone when my mind can not control what others say or do. I also do not think it's a trick of the mind when I coincidentally pull behind a car with a bumper sticker that reassures these thoughts on two separate occasions, different times and place- instantaneously... Okay I will post the sake below this to keep it organized: Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jan 23, 2017 08:32 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik11.jpg)
Success comes when reason, the store of experience, surrenders to will. Bowl of Saki, January 23, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan A learned person without will power is like a head without a body. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/say/gayan_boulas.htm Common sense is necessary in the path of attainment, but not to such an extent that the reason should dominate and lead the will. The will, in action, must lead the reason, whereas if the reason is allowed to lead the will, the will many times becomes paralyzed. But when in cooperation the will leads the reason, then the path of attainment becomes illuminated. ~~~ "Githa I, Sadhana 5", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) Reason is learned from the ever changing world, but wisdom comes from the essence of life. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/say/gayan_boulas.htm Reason is the master of the unbeliever and the servant of the believer. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/say/gayan_chalas.htm In order to see this question more clearly one must picture oneself as two beings, one the king and the other the servant. When one of them expresses a wish, it is the king who wishes. And the part that says, 'I cannot,' is the servant. If the servant has his way, then the king is in the place of the servant. And the more the servant has his way, the more the servant rules and the king obeys. In this way naturally conflict arises and that reflects upon the outer life. One's whole life becomes unlucky. One may be pious or good or religious, it makes no difference. If man does not realize the kingdom of God within himself nor realize his spirit to be a king, he does not accomplish the purpose of life. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_28.htm ~~~ Success comes when reason (the store of experience) surrenders to will. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jan 23, 2017 08:33 pm Quote ... if the reason is allowed to lead the will, the will many times becomes paralyzed. This is what I am experiencing now... Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jan 28, 2017 11:13 pm Sincerity is the jewel that forms in the shell of the heart.
Bowl of Saki, January 28, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Very few realize what power sincerity carries. A false man, however physically strong he is or however great is his willpower, is kept down by his falsehood; it never allows him to rise. It eats into him because it is rust. Those who have done great things in life, in whatever walk of life it be, have done them by the power of truth, the power of sincerity. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IV/IV_31.htm Sincerity is the principal thing in life. Youth is the age which is most attracted to superficiality. That is the reason why many youths adopt an artificial manner of thought, speech and action, which is very undesirable and does not benefit their life. It is important to inculcate sincerity in the character of the youth. To give a youth a love of sincerity is extremely useful, for the power of sincerity can work miracles. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_I_6.htm The more sincerity is developed, the greater share of truth you will have. And however much sincerity a person may have, there is always a gap to fill, for we live in the midst of falsehood, and we are always apt to be carried away by this world of falsehood. Therefore we must never think we are sincere enough, and we must always be on our guard against influences which may carry us away from that sincerity which is the bridge between ourselves and our ideal. No study, no meditation is more helpful than sincerity itself. ~~~ "Supplementary Papers, Classes for Mureeds I", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) ~~~ Sincerity is the jewel that forms in the shell of the heart. https://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.php Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jan 29, 2017 10:26 pm Self-pity is the worst poverty; it overwhelms man until he sees nothing but illness, trouble and pain.
Bowl of Saki, January 29, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Quote If one studies one's surroundings one finds that those who are happy are so because they have less thought of self. If they are unhappy it is because they think of themselves too much. A person is more bearable when he thinks less of himself. And a person is unbearable when he is always thinking of himself. There are many miseries in life, but the greatest misery is self-pity. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IV/IV_29.htm Man is mostly selfish, and what interests him is that which concerns his own life. Not knowing the troubles of the lives of others he feels the burden of his own life even more than the burden of the whole world. If only man in his poverty could think that there are others who are poorer than he, in his illness that there are others whose sufferings are perhaps greater than his, in his troubles that there are others whose difficulties are perhaps greater than his! Self-pity is the worst poverty. It overwhelms man and he sees nothing but his own troubles and pains, and it seems to him that he is the most unhappy person in the world, more so than anyone else. A great thinker of Persia, Sa'di, writes in an account of his life, 'Once I had no shoes, I had to walk barefoot in the hot sand, and how miserable I was. Then I met a man who was lame, for whom walking was very difficult. I bowed down to heaven at once and offered thanks that I was much better off than he who had not even feet to walk upon.' This shows that it is not a man's situation in life, but his attitude towards life that makes him happy or unhappy. ... When Jesus Christ said, 'Seek ye first the kingdom of God,' this teaching was an answer to the cry of humanity: some crying, 'I have no wealth,' others crying, 'I have no rest,' others crying, 'My situation in life is difficult,' My friends are troubling me,' or, 'I want a position, wealth.' The answer to them all is, 'Seek ye first the kingdom of God, and all these things shall be added unto you.' from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_40.htm ~~~ Self-pity is the worst poverty; it overwhelms man until he sees nothing but illness, trouble and pain. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jan 30, 2017 02:20 am "If one studies one's surroundings one finds that those who are happy are so because they have less thought of self. If they are unhappy it is because they think of themselves too much. A person is more bearable when he thinks less of himself. And a person is unbearable when he is always thinking of himself. There are many miseries in life, but the greatest misery is self-pity."
There is so much wisdom here! Meditation helps us think less of ourselves and expands our awareness to think of others and higher realities then the body and mind which we attach ourselves too a fancy them as our identity. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jan 30, 2017 08:45 pm If I am not my body or mind then what am I?
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jan 31, 2017 02:17 am The heart is not living until it has experienced pain.
Bowl of Saki, January 30, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Quote Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Those who have avoided love in life from fear of its pain have lost more than the lover, who by losing himself gains all. The loveless first lose all, until at last their self is also snatched away from their hands. The warmth of the lover's atmosphere, the piercing effect of his voice, the appeal of his words, all come from the pain of his heart. The heart is not living until it has experienced pain. Man has not lived if he has lived and worked with his body and mind without heart. The soul is all light, but all darkness is caused by the death of the heart. Pain makes it alive. The same heart that was once full of bitterness, when purified by love becomes the source of all goodness. All deeds of kindness spring from it. A person who has never experienced pain cannot sympathize with those suffering pain. ... Sympathy is something more than love and affection, for it is the knowledge of a certain suffering which moves the living heart to sympathy. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_21.htm Suffering is always a blessing. If it is for higher ideas, for God, for an ideal, it takes a person at once to the highest heaven. If it is for lower ideas, for the ego, for pride, for possessions, it takes a person to the lowest depth of hell. But there, after much suffering, after a long, long time, he loses these ideas and is purified. That is why the Christian religion shows the symbol of the cross, of suffering. How high our ideal may be, how low our ideal may be, in the end each pain has its prize. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_7.htm If there were no pain, one would not have the experience of joy. It is pain which helps one to experience joy. Everything is distinguished by its opposite and the one who feels pain deeply is more capable of expressing joy. If there were no pain, life would be most uninteresting; for it is by pain that penetration takes place, and the sensation after pain is a deeper joy. Without pain the great musicians, athletes, discoverers, and thinkers would not have reached the stage they have arrived at in the world. If they had always experienced joy, they would not have touched the depths of life. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_17.htm ~~~ The heart is not living until it has experienced pain. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jan 31, 2017 03:18 pm Good Morning! =) Here's to a Blessed Day.
(https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/01_31_17.jpg) Quote Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan The heart of man, as the Sufis say, is a mirror. All that is reflected in this mirror is projected upon other mirrors. When man has doubt in his heart that doubt is reflected upon every heart with which he comes in contact. When he has faith that faith is reflected in every heart. Can there be a more interesting study and a greater wonder than to observe this keenly? from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_2_16.htm There must be no feeling of revenge, of unkindness, of bitterness against anyone in the heart. When such a feeling comes, one must say: this is rust coming into my heart. When all such feelings are cleared off the heart, it becomes like a mirror. A mirror without rust reflects all that is before it; then everything divine is reflected in the heart. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_1_14.htm The heart aflame becomes the torch on the path of the lover, which lightens his way that leads him to his destination. The pleasures of life are blinding, it is love alone that clears the rust from the heart, the mirror of the soul. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_22.htm ~~~ The pleasures of life are blinding; it is love alone that clears the rust from the heart, the mirror of the soul. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Feb 03, 2017 08:22 pm Just a small excerpt from todays Saki drink for your consideration! =) Namaste :)
For the Sufi there is one principle which is most essential to be remembered and that is consideration for human feeling. If one practices in his life this one principle he need not learn much more; he need not trouble about philosophy, he need not follow an old or a new religion, for this principle in itself is the essence of all religions. God is love, but where does God dwell? He abides in the heart of man. ~~~ "Sangatha I, Khawas", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) https://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.php Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Feb 04, 2017 09:54 pm Just a small excerpt from todays Saki drink for your consideration! =) Namaste :) For the Sufi there is one principle which is most essential to be remembered and that is consideration for human feeling. If one practices in his life this one principle he need not learn much more; he need not trouble about philosophy, he need not follow an old or a new religion, for this principle in itself is the essence of all religions. God is love, but where does God dwell? He abides in the heart of man. ~~~ "Sangatha I, Khawas", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) https://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.php While i do see the importance of this last quote i have found also that with some people it is like walking on egg shells when you are with them--you do not know how you may offend their ego. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Feb 09, 2017 12:48 am Love manifests towards those whom we like as love; towards those whom we do not like as forgiveness.
Bowl of Saki, February 8, by Hazrat Inayat Khan "...One cannot arrive at true nobility of spirit if one is not prepared to forgive the imperfections of human nature. For all men, whether worthy or unworthy, require forgiveness, and only in this way can one rise above the lack of harmony and beauty." https://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.php Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Feb 11, 2017 01:53 am Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan
All planes of existence consist of vibrations, from the finest to the grossest kind; the vibrations of each plane have come from a higher one, and have become grosser. Whoever knows the mystery of vibrations, he indeed knows all things. ... From the scientific standpoint, spirit and matter are quite different from each other, but according to the philosophical point of view they are one. Spirit and matter are different, just as water is different from snow; yet again they are not different, for snow is nothing other than water. When spiritual vibrations become more dense they turn into matter, and when material vibrations become finer they develop into spirit. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_1.htm All existing things we see or hear, which we perceive, vibrate. If it were not for vibration, the precious stones would not show us their color and their brilliance; it is vibration which makes the tree grow, the fruit ripen, and the flowers bloom. Our existence is also according to the law of vibrations, not only the existence of our physical body but also our thoughts and feelings. ... When we begin to see life from this point of view it will appear that birth and death are only our conceptions of life, that there is no such thing as death and that all is living. It only changes from one form to the other, subject to the law of vibrations. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XI/XI_I_3.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Feb 11, 2017 05:22 am There is a thought that plays with this idea of vbration that many of us have not entertained; That is the closer we get to others the more we mingle with their vibration. A sobering thought.
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Feb 11, 2017 08:34 pm Our likes and infatuations have a certain limit; when their time has expired the period of indifference commences. When the water of indifference is drunk, then there is no more wish for anything in the world. The nature of the water one drinks in this world is that one's thirst is quenched for a certain time and then comes again. When the water of divine knowledge is drunk, then thirst never comes again. ... Indifference, however, must be reached after interest has taken its course; before that moment it is a fault. A person without an interest in life becomes exclusive, he becomes disagreeable. Indifference must come after all experience - interest must end in indifference. Man must not take the endless path of interest: the taste of everything in the world becomes flat. Man must realize that all he seeks in the objects he runs after, that all beauty and strength, are in himself, and he must be content to feel them all in himself. ... Vairagya means satisfaction, the feeling that no desire is to be satisfied any more, that nothing on earth is desired. This is a great moment, and then comes that which is the kingdom of God.
from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_9.htm Vairagi means a person who has become indifferent; and yet indifference is not the word for it. It describes a person who has lost the value in his eyes of all that attracts the human being. It is no more attractive to him; it no more enslaves him. He may still be interested in all things of this life, but is not bound to them. ... No affair of this world, no relation, no friendship, no wealth, no rank, position or comfort, nothing holds him. And yet that does not mean that he in any way lacks what is called love or kindness, for if ever he lives in this world it is only out of love. He is not interested in the world and it is only love that keeps him here, the love which does not express itself any more in the way of attachment, but only in the way of kindness, forgiveness, generosity, service, consideration, sympathy, helpfulness, in any way that it can; never expecting a return from the world, but ever doing all that it can, pitying the conditions, knowing the limitations of life and its continual changeability. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_II_9.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Feb 15, 2017 11:24 pm Man forms his future by his actions. His every good or bad action spreads its vibrations and becomes known throughout the universe. The more spiritual a man is, the stronger and clearer are the vibrations of his actions, which spread over the world and weave his future. The universe is like a dome: it vibrates to that which you say in it, and echoes the same back to you. So also is the law of action: we reap what we sow.
from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_1.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Feb 17, 2017 08:32 pm Happy Friday Fam :)
Anyone who has some knowledge of mysticism and of the lives of the mystics knows that what always attracts the mystic most is nature. Nature is his bread and wine. Nature is his soul's nourishment. Nature inspires him, uplifts him and gives him the solitude for which his soul continually longs. Every soul born with a mystical tendency is constantly drawn towards nature. In nature that soul finds its life's demand, as it is said in the Vadan, 'Art is dear to my heart, but nature is near to my soul.'... From the moment man's eyes open and he begins to read the book of nature he begins to live; and he continues to live forever. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XI/XI_III_7.htm As one goes further in the soul's unfoldment one finally arrives at the stage of revelation. Life begins to reveal itself, the whole of life, each soul becomes communicative -- not only living beings but each thing. They say that the twelve apostles knew all languages. It does not mean that they knew English, French and Italian, but that they knew every soul's language, as every soul has its own separate language. They began to perceive vibrations and so every evolved soul will feel the vibrations of every other soul, and every condition, every soul, every object in the world will reveal its nature and character to him. Sa'di, the Persian poet, has said, 'Once a soul has begun to read, every leaf of the tree becomes as a page of the sacred book of life'. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_19.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Feb 18, 2017 06:50 pm The Sufi therefore, finds the only way out of the distress of life... He rises above it, taking all things as they come, patiently. He does not mind how he is treated. His principle is to do his best, and in that is his satisfaction. Instead of depending on another person to be kind to him, the Sufi thinks if he were kind to another person, that is sufficient. Every wise man in the long run through life will find in this principle the solution of happiness. For we cannot change the world, but we can change ourselves.
~~~ "Sangatha II, Path To Perfection", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan The other day I lectured in Paris and after my lecture a very able man came to me and said, 'Have you got a scheme?' I said, 'What scheme?' 'Of bettering conditions.' I replied that I had not made such a scheme, and he said, 'I have a scheme, I will show it to you'. He opened his box and brought out a very large paper with mathematics on it and showed it to me saying, 'This is the economic scheme that will make the condition of the world better: everyone will have the same share'. I said, 'We should practice that economic scheme first on tuning our piano: instead of saying D, E, F, we should tune them all to one note and play that music and see how interesting that would be -- all sounding the same, no individuality, no distinction, nothing.' And I added, 'Economy is not a plan for construction, but it is a plan for destruction. It is economics which have brought us to destruction. It is the heart quality, it is the spiritual outlook which will change the world'. Very often people coming to hear me say afterwards, 'Yes, all you say is very interesting, very beautiful, and I wish too that the world was changed. But how many think like you? How can you do it? How can it be done?'. They come with that pessimistic remark, and I tell them, 'One person comes into a country with a little cold or influenza and it spreads. If such a bad thing can spread, can not an elevated thought of love, kindness and goodwill towards all men spread? See then that there are finer germs, germs of goodwill, of love, kindness, and feeling, germs of brotherhood, of the desire for spiritual evolution, which can have greater results than the other ones. If we all have that optimistic view, if we all work in our little way, we can accomplish a great deal'. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_2_8.htm Many have been cross with God for having sent any misery in their lives -- but we always get such experiences! Becoming cross one says, 'Why, this is not just', or 'This is not right', and 'How could God who is just and good allow unjust things to happen?' But our sight is so limited that our conception of right and wrong and good and evil is only for us -- not according to God's plan. It is true that, as long as we see it as such, it is so for us and for those who look at it from our point of view, but when it comes to God the whole dimension is changed, the whole point of view is changed. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_2_12.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Feb 23, 2017 07:23 pm ...
By changing his own nature, by making himself more truthful, he disperses the clouds of falsehood within and without, and begins to see life as it really is both inwardly and outwardly. From this time onwards, the meaning of religion becomes clear. One begins to understand what the great teachers have taught. Then one becomes tolerant to the various religions. Nothing seems strange any more. Nothing surprises. For now one begins to know the innermost nature of man; one sees the cause behind every action. ~~~ "Supplementary papers, Philosophy V", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) People speak about truth and falsehood, but once the mystic has reached the truth, all is truth to him; then everything is a phenomenon of truth, a picture of truth. For instance, a person looking at a picture may distinguish light and shade, but another instead of speaking of light and shade, will say, 'This is a portrait of so and so, it is a very good picture, exactly like him.' Truth is like this; and so to a mystic the whole of life is a picture of the divine Beloved. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XI/XI_III_18.htm ~~~ Truth alone can succeed; falsehood is a waste of time and loss of energy. https://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.php Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Feb 27, 2017 08:04 pm Where there is no conviction there is nothing. The secret of healing, the mystery of evolving, the power of all attainments, and the way to spiritual realization, all come from the strengthening of that belief which is a conviction, so that nothing can ever change it.
from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_30.htm Believe in God with childlike faith; for simplicity with intelligence is the sign of the Holy Ones. Bowl of Saki, February 27, by Hazrat Inayat Khan (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik12.jpg) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Mar 01, 2017 07:25 pm Nature speaks louder than the call from the minaret.
Bowl of Saki, March 1, by Hazrat Inayat Khan The deeper we look into life the more it unfolds itself, allowing us to see more keenly. Life is revealing. It is not only human beings who speak; if only the ears can hear even plants and trees and all nature speak, in the sense that nature reveals itself, reveals its secret. In this way we communicate with the whole of life. Then we are never alone, then life becomes worth living. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_15.htm One may ask, what should one study? There are two kinds of studies. One kind is by reading the teachings of the great thinkers and keeping them in mind, the study of metaphysics, psychology, and mysticism. And the other kind of study is the study of life. Every day one has an opportunity for studying; but it should be a correct study. When a person travels in a tramcar, in the train, with a newspaper in his hand, he wants to read the sensational news which is worth nothing. He should read human nature which is before him, people coming and going. If he would continue to do this, he would begin to read human beings as though they were letters written by the divine pen, which speak of their past and future. He should look deeply at the heavens and at nature and at all the things to be seen in everyday life, and reflect upon them with the desire to understand. This kind of study is much superior, incomparably superior, to the study of books. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_15.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Mar 16, 2017 08:37 pm At every step of evolution, man's realization of God changes.
Bowl of Saki, March 16, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan There is a time when toys are treasures. But the child who cries for a toy comes to an age when he gives it away. And at every step in a man's evolution the values of power and position and wealth change in his eyes. And so as he evolves there arises in him a spirit of renunciation which may be called the Spirit of God. Gradually he recognizes the real value of those fair and lovely qualities of the spirit that change not. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_II_15.htm Every step in evolution makes life more valuable. The more evolved you are, the more priceless is every moment; it becomes an opportunity for you to do good to others, to serve others, to give love to others, to be gentle to others, to give your sympathy to souls who are longing and hungering for it. Life is miserable when a person is absorbed in himself. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_1.htm In selfishness there is an illusion of profit, but in the end the profit attained by selfishness proves to be worthless. Life is the principal thing to consider, and true life is the inner life, the realization of God, the consciousness of one's spirit. When the human heart becomes conscious of God it turns into the sea and it spreads; it extends the waves of its love to friend and foe. Spreading further and further it attains perfection. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_2_15.htm The one who in the shrine of his heart has seen the vision of God, the one who has the realization of truth, can only smile, for words can never really explain what truth means. The nearest explanation one can give is that truth is realization. At every step of man's evolution his realization changes, but there is a stage where man arrives at the true realization, a realization which is a firm conviction that no reason or logic can change or alter. Nothing in the world can change it any more, and that conviction is called by the Sufis Iman. The realization which is attained is that there is nothing to realize any more. The process of this attainment is a sincere research into truth and life, and the understanding of 'what I am the other is', together with the contemplation of God, a selfless consciousness, and a continual pursuit after the receiving of the knowledge of God. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_7.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 17, 2017 02:33 pm 'There is a time when toys are treasures. But the child who cries for a toy comes to an age when he gives it away. And at every step in a man's evolution the values of power and position and wealth change in his eyes. And so as he evolves there arises in him a spirit of renunciation which may be called the Spirit of God. Gradually he recognizes the real value of those fair and lovely qualities of the spirit that change not.'
Hello friend I have had this happen in my life. Yet there seems to be still objects in my life and situations that i find have value worthy of affection..... I think thay i am just at the stage of admitting it and recognizing what may be holding me back spiritual progress. In this recognition comes the awareness of how we are hurt by worldly people and situations. We begin to understand how we set ourselves up for our own suffering. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Mar 17, 2017 09:00 pm Hi Steve,
It's true. People can be temporarily happy sharing together- temporary being the key word. Happy, angry, sad etc. A friend last night told me there is a difference between happiness and joy. Joy is what comes from cultivating the heart/spirit and isn't temporary. I am rather fond of this statement, In selfishness there is an illusion of profit, but in the end the profit attained by selfishness proves to be worthless. Life is the principal thing to consider, and true life is the inner life, the realization of God, the consciousness of one's spirit. When the human heart becomes conscious of God it turns into the sea and it spreads; it extends the waves of its love to friend and foe. Spreading further and further it attains perfection. I have very perverse and selfish desires that may temporarily bring satisfaction but only after acting on them can I say they aren't helping me feel more wholesome and I don't see any comfort in the long run or peace from these actions when it's my time to go. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Mar 18, 2017 02:48 am Our greatest enemy is ourself. All weakness, all ignorance keeps us from the truth of our being, from all the virtues hidden in us and all perfection hidden in our souls. The first self we realize is the false self. Unless the soul is born again it will not see the kingdom of heaven. The soul is born into the false self; it is blind. In the true self the soul opens its eyes. Unless the false self is fought with, the true self cannot be realized.
from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_5.htm The soul is a bird of paradise, a free dweller in the heavens. Its first prison is the mind, then the body. In these it becomes not only limited, but also captive. The whole endeavor of a Sufi in life is to liberate the soul from its captivity, which he does by conquering both mind and body. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_45.htm If a man has control over himself, he will smile and be patient even if he is exposed to rages a thousand times. He will just wait. He who has spiritual control has great control; but he who has it not can control neither spiritual nor physical events. He cannot control his own sons and daughters, for he never listens to himself first. If he listened to himself, not only persons but even objects would listen to him. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_14.htm There is a poem by the great Persian poet Iraqi in which he tells, 'When I went to the gate of the divine Beloved and knocked at the door, a voice came and said -- Who art thou?' When he had told, 'I am so and so', the answer came, 'There is no place for anyone else in this abode. Go back to whence thou hast come'. He turned back and then, after a long time, after having gone through the process of the cross and of crucifixion, he again went there -- with the spirit of selflessness. He knocked at the door; the word came, 'Who art thou? ', and he said, 'Thyself alone, for no one else exists save Thee'. And God said, 'Enter into this abode for now it belongs to thee'. It is such selflessness, to the extent that the thought of self is not there, it is being dead to the self, which is the recognition of God. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_2_22.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Mar 20, 2017 10:03 pm Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan
It is to the great disadvantage of the fault-finding man that he wishes to find fault with all he sees, for if he is not able to throw away immediately the undesirable impression received, which is not always so easy, he begins in due time to reproduce what he has received. ... If man only knew what harm is brought to one's being by letting any undesirable impression enter the heart, he also would adopt the above-mentioned policy of the wise, to overlook. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_20.htm The aim of the Sufi, therefore, is to see and yet not be interested. ... Those who trouble about others' thoughts and interest themselves in others' actions most often lose their time and blunt their inner sight. Those who go farther, their moral is to overlook all they see on their way, as their mind is fixed on the goal. ... The best thing is to see and rise above, never to halt on the way, and it is this attitude that, if constantly practiced, will lead man safely to his soul's desired goal. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_5.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 22, 2017 01:17 pm I really make a conscious effort to think good of others and if i have a difficult time of it i pray for them. All people snd situations are passing phenomena to be seen much like an enjoyable movie. Sometimes though, i get caught on a certain clip and have to let go of it. Time and meditation heal all psychological wounds and help us once again flow with lifes' rhythms.
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Mar 22, 2017 08:01 pm Hi Steve,
Very wise words. Thanks friend. :) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 23, 2017 04:04 pm Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Those who trouble about others' thoughts and interest themselves in others' actions most often lose their time and blunt their inner sight. Those who go farther, their moral is to overlook all they see on their way, as their mind is fixed on the goal. ... The best thing is to see and rise above, never to halt on the way, and it is this attitude that, if constantly practiced, will lead man safely to his soul's desired goal. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_5.htm 'lose their time and blunt their inner sight' insightful comments here. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Mar 24, 2017 09:18 pm Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan
A soul shows the proof of its evolution in the degree of the tolerance it shows. The life in the lower creation shows the lack of tolerance. The tendency of fighting with one another, which one sees among beasts and birds, shows the reason at the back of it, that intolerance is born in their nature. ... But when a soul has evolved still more, tolerance becomes the natural thing for him. Because the highly evolved soul then begins to realize 'Another person is not separate from me, but the other person is myself. The separation is on the surface of life, but in the depth of life I and the other person are one.' Therefore tolerance is not learned fully by trying to follow it as a good principle. It is learned by having the love of God, by attaining the knowledge of self, and by understanding the truth of life. A Sufi tries to keep harmony in his surroundings, the harmony which demands many sacrifices. It makes one endure what one is not willing to endure, it makes one overlook what one is not inclined to overlook, it makes one tolerate what one is not accustomed to tolerate, and it makes one forgive and forget what one would never have forgotten if it were not for the sake of harmony. But at whatever cost harmony is attained, it is a good bargain. For harmony is the secret of happiness, and in absence of this a person living in palaces and rolling in gold can be most unhappy. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_17.htm The first step to the attainment of the truth cannot be taught in books, or be imparted by a teacher. It must come spontaneously, namely through the love for truth. The next step is to search for it; the third step is the actual attainment. How can one attain? In order to attain truth one must make one's own life truthful. ... Passing from the state of natural man, through the state of being a lover of truth and a seeker after truth, one begins to express truth ... One begins to understand what the great teachers have taught. Then one becomes tolerant to the various religions. Nothing seems strange any more. Nothing surprises. For now one begins to know the innermost nature of man; one sees the cause behind every action. Therefore tolerance and forgiveness and understanding of others come naturally. The person who knows the truth is the most tolerant. It is the knower of truth who is forgiving; it is the knower of truth who understands another person's point of view. It is the knower of truth who does not readily voice his opinion, for he has respect for the opinions of others. When man gains insight into himself, he also gains insight into the hearts of others. All this desire for learning occult or mystical powers or psychic powers now disappears, because he begins to see all this power in one truth -- loving truth, seeking truth, looking for truth, living the truthful life. That it is which opens all doors. ~~~ "Supplementary Papers, Philosophy V", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Mar 30, 2017 07:40 pm 3/30/17
There is a beautiful story told of the King Akbar that when he was grieving with an almost ungovernable grief over the death of his mother, his ministers and friends tried to comfort him by influence and power. Akbar replied, "Yes, that is true, and that only makes my grief greater; for while I have everyone to bow before me, to give way to me, to salute me and obey me, my mother was the one person before whom I could humble myself; and I cannot tell you how great a joy that was to me." Think, then, of the far greater joy of humbling one's self before the Father-Mother God on Whose Love one can always depend. A spark only of love expresses itself in the human father and mother; the Whole of Love in God. In whatever manner a man humbles himself it can never be enough to express the humility of the limited self before Limitless Perfection. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/archives/prayer.htm ~~~ We can never sufficiently humble our limited self before limitless perfection. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Apr 14, 2017 07:15 pm When one invokes the names of God, one forgets his limitations and impresses his soul with the thought of the Unlimited, which brings him to the ideal of limitlessness. This is the secret of life's attainment.
Man is the picture or reflection of his imagination. He is as large as he thinks himself, as great as he thinks himself, as small as he thinks himself to be. If he thinks he is incapable, he remains incapable; if he thinks himself foolish, he will be foolish and will remain foolish; if he thinks himself wise, he will be wise and become wiser every moment; if he thinks himself mighty, he will be mighty. Those who have proved themselves to be the greatest warriors, where did their might come from? It was from their thought, their feeling; 'I am mighty.' The idea of might was impressed on their soul, and the soul became might. The poet had poetry impressed on his soul, and so the soul became a poet. Whatever is impressed on man's soul, with that the soul becomes endowed, and that the soul will become. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_7.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Apr 22, 2017 02:16 am (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/04_21_17.jpg)
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on May 06, 2017 03:49 pm I read these are great to share on birthdays! Today is my Baby Sisters Birthday! :) :) :)
So I shared this with her, in honor of her day of birth. It's a good one! Unity in realization is far greater than unity in variety. Bowl of Saki, May 6, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Man's thought has a great power. And when he comes to the realization that everything comes from one source and that everything is developing towards one goal, he begins to see that the source and the goal are God. Then the world of variety is no longer variety to him but unity; it is one. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IV/IV_29.htm 'When two hearts unite, they can break even mountains.' As two fuse in love, the more does intuition grow, the more does one understand whether the other is happy, or pleased, or displeased, whatever distance may separate them. This is nothing but just the unity of the one person with the other. It is clairvoyance. The mother knows the condition of her son at the battlefront. She can see him in her dreams. Hearts, which are united in love, perceive the state of mind of the loved ones. They do not have to study mysticism or concentration, for they have natural concentration. The mother does not pretend to meditate; love teaches her more meditation than a person who pretends to study it can attain. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_18.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on May 15, 2017 01:04 am The wisdom and justice of God are within us, and yet they are far away, hidden by the veil of the limited self.
Bowl of Saki, May 14, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on May 24, 2017 10:15 pm Discussion is for those who say, "What I say is right, and what you say is wrong." A sage never says such a thing hence, there is no discussion. Bowl of Saki, May 24, by Hazrat Inayat Khan (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik71.jpg) Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Once I was with a sage whom many people went to see. He pleased them all, and he was not fond of disputing or discussing, because to a sage there is nothing to discuss. Discussion is for those who say, 'What I say is right, and what you say is wrong.' A sage never says such a thing; hence there is no discussion. But the world is always fighting and discussing and disputing. Many would come and try to dispute with him, but he did his best to avoid dispute. I was very fond of listening to his way of dealing with inquirers. My friends wanted to discuss what the ideal life is. He said, 'Whatever you think it is.' But my friends were not satisfied with this. They wanted a discussion. They answered, 'Do you think this worldly life, with so many responsibilities, with strife from morning to evening, can be the ideal life?' He said, 'Yes.' They asked, 'Do you not think that the life you lead, retirement and seclusion, is the ideal life?' He answered, 'Yes.' They said, 'But how can we give up our present life, our responsibilities to our children, our occupations, and all these things that take up so much time. How can we leave that life in order to follow your ideal life?' He said, 'Do not leave it.' They went on, 'But, if we do not leave it, how can we get on in the spiritual life?' Then the sage asked, 'What do you mean by the spiritual life?' 'We mean by spiritual life a life like yours,' they answered. He said, 'If you think my life is a spiritual life, be like me. If you think your life is a spiritual life, keep to it. It is not possible to say which life is best. If you think your worldly strife brings you happiness, just keep to it. If you think my life gives you happiness, give up your own. Whatever makes you happy and makes you think you are doing right, do it from that moment, and see what the result is. If it gives you more happiness, go on regardless of what others say. If it gives you happiness, if you are satisfied while doing it, while reaping its effect, then it is all right. Go on with it, and you will always be blessed.' from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_29.htm People discuss dogmas, beliefs, and moral principles, as they know them. But there comes a time in a man's life when he has touched truth of which he cannot speak in words; and at that time all dispute, discussion, argument ends. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IV/IV_34.htm https://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.php Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on May 25, 2017 12:25 pm Discussion is for those who say, "What I say is right, and what you say is wrong." A sage never says such a thing hence, there is no discussion.
People discuss dogmas, beliefs, and moral principles, as they know them. But there comes a time in a man's life when he has touched truth of which he cannot speak in words; and at that time all dispute, discussion, argument ends. What great thoughts and attitudes! Just reach this experience for short time periods then find myself part of the world again; it's challenging differences of opinion. I wonder; is it not possible to discuss without saying or expressing 'what I say is rite and what you say is wrong?' It is possible to learn from one another. Is it not? Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on May 30, 2017 07:22 pm The control of self means the control of everything.
Bowl of Saki, May 28, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Self-control is the most necessary thing to be learned; a person may have great spirituality, illumination and piety, but in the absence of self-control this is nothing. Self-control also is the way of happiness and peace. ... No thought or feeling should arise without our will. When we have gained mastery over the self, we have mastery over all things. ... Self-control is an attribute which distinguishes man from the animal; both have their appetites and passions, but it is man alone who can control them. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_1_14.htm The control of the self means the control of everything. What does it mean when we see a person fail time after time, or another person succeed time after time? It is just a matter of holding the reins of our affairs in our hands. When there is no rein there is failure. Failure means that there has been lack of self-control, whether it is a failure in affairs or in health. Illness always comes when a person has lost the control of the self. It is because this is the main theme of metaphysics that Hatha Yoga has been considered of the greatest value. All the miracles and all the wonders that have ever been known in this world have been done by those who have been able to control themselves by abstinence, and therefore to control life. However much was said upon this subject, it would still not express it. To begin with a person is puzzled by it, and he wonders whether he should believe it or not. That is why in the East the adepts never speak of their experiences in the spiritual life. They only tell their disciples to lead it and practice for years. 'That will make it clear to you', they say. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_30.htm ~~~ The control of self means the control of everything. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jun 06, 2017 09:38 pm Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan
Externally we are a single being, but internally we are a world. As vast as is the world around us, so vast is the world within. Asif says, 'The limitation of the sky and land cannot be compared with man's heart. If man's heart be wide, there is nothing wider than this.' All can be accommodated in it; heaven earth, sun, moon, all are reflected in it. It becomes itself the whole. This world becomes as one chooses to make it. If man only knew that! But since he does not know that, the world is not heaven, but has become its opposite. We blame others for our sorrows and misfortunes, not perceiving that we ourselves are the creators of our world; that our world has an influence upon our life within as well as upon our life without. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_17.htm Bowl of Saki, June 6, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jun 08, 2017 06:55 am Nobody appears inferior to us when our heart is kindled with kindness and our eyes are open to the vision of God.
Bowl of Saki, June 7, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jun 29, 2017 06:36 am The awakened heart says, "I must give, I must not demand." Thus it enters a gate that leads to a constant happiness.
(https://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik94.jpg) Bowl of Saki, June 28, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan An unhappy person, being himself unhappy, cannot make others happy. It is a wealthy person who can help the one who is hard up, not a poor person, however much desire of helping he may have. So it is with happiness, which is a great wealth; and a happy person can take away the unhappiness of another, for he has enough for himself and for others. Earthly pleasures are the shadows of happiness; because of their transitory character. True happiness is in love, which is the stream that springs from one's soul. He who will allow this stream to run continually in all conditions of life, in all situations, however difficult, will have a happiness which truly belongs to him, the source of which is not without, but within. If there is a constant outpouring of love one becomes a divine fountain, for from the depth of the fountain rises the stream and, on its return, it pours upon the fountain, bathing it continually. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_17.htm Why does a mystic attribute such great importance to harmony? Because to a mystic, his whole life is one continuous symphony, a playing of music, with each soul contributing his particular part to the symphony. A person's success therefore depends upon the idea he has of harmony. Very few people in the world pay attention to harmony. They do not know that without it, there is no chance of happiness. It is only the harmonious ones who can make others happy and partake of that happiness themselves; and apart from them, it is hard to find happiness in the world. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_8.htm The method of attainment is to endeavor always to make others happy and by experiencing happiness in the happiness of others. In the terms of the Sufi, it is Suluk. Any selfishness prevents us from appreciating another's happiness and therefore we shall be kept back, for the happiness of others is the gate to our own happiness. Real happiness is entering the gate. We must feel satisfaction in another's satisfaction ... If a person needs a certain thing and we can supply it, we should be happy, how ever small the thing may be. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/archives/constancy.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jul 27, 2017 07:50 pm Belief and disbelief have divided mankind into so many sects, blinding its eyes to the vision of the oneness of all life.
(https://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik82.jpg) Bowl of Saki, July 27, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan For the Sufi there exists no one in this world, neither heathen nor pagan, who is to be despised, for he believes in that God who is not the God of one chosen sect but the God of the whole world. https://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.php Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Aug 19, 2017 06:53 pm Overlook the greatest fault of another, but do not partake of it yourself in the smallest degree.
Bowl of Saki, August 19, by Hazrat Inayat Khan The more the self learns, the more it overlooks the evil in others. It does not mean that the evil is not in others; it only means that one finds in oneself the enemy which one was seeing outwardly. And the worst enemy one was faced with in outer life one finds to be in one's own heart. It makes one feel humiliated, but it teaches the true lesson: one finds oneself having the same element which one wishes to resist in another. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_19.htm For the wise, who have risen above the ordinary faults of human life, it matters little if they find fault, but they are the ones who do not criticize. They, as a rule, overlook all that seems undesirable, and that action of overlooking itself prevents all the undesirable impressions from penetrating through their hearts. There is a natural tendency in man as in the animal to protect his heart from all hurt or harm, but that is the external heart. If man only knew what harm is brought to one's being by letting any undesirable impression enter the heart, he also would adopt the above-mentioned policy of the wise, to overlook. from http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_20.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Aug 26, 2017 07:47 am Faith is the A B C of the realization of God. This faith begins by prayer. Bowl of Saki, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Someone once said to a Brahmin, 'O ignorant man, you have worshipped this idol for years. Do you think it can ever answer you?' 'Yes,' said the Brahmin, 'even from this idol of stone the answer will come if your faith is real. But if you have no real faith, you will get no answer even from the God in heaven.' ... The first necessity is the belief that there is such a Being as God, in whom goodness, beauty, and greatness are perfect. In the beginning it will seem nothing but a belief; but in time, if kept in sincerity and faith, that belief will become like the egg of the Phoenix, out of which the magic bird is born. The birth of God is the birth of the soul. Every soul seeks for happiness, and after pursuing all the objects which for the moment seem to give happiness, it finds out that nowhere is there perfect happiness except in God. http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_9. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Aug 29, 2017 08:48 am Death is a tax the soul has to pay for having had a name and a form.
Bowl of Saki, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan All that is constructed is subject to destruction; all that is composed must be decomposed; all that is formed must be destroyed; that which has birth has death. But all this belongs to matter; the spirit which is absorbed by this formation of matter or by its mechanism lives, for spirit cannot die. http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XI/XI_I_12.htm That which the soul has borrowed he must give back when it has done its work; it was borrowed for a certain time and for a certain purpose. When the purpose is fulfilled, when the time is finished, then every plane asks for that which the soul has borrowed from it, and one cannot help but give it back to that plane. It is this process which is called assimilation. Since man is born greedy and selfish he has taken all things willingly, enthusiastically -- he gives them back grudgingly and calls it death. ... Death is nothing but the taking off of one garb and giving it back to the plane from which it was borrowed, for the condition is this: one cannot take the garb of the lower plane to the higher plane. The soul is only released when it is willing -- or compelled -- to give its garb to the plane it has taken it from. It is this which releases the soul to go on in its travel. And as it proceeds to a higher plane, after its stay there it must again give its garb back and be purified from it in order to go further. ... This knowledge also throws a light upon the question of death. Death is not really death; it is only a passing stage, it is only a change, as changing clothes. http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_2_3.htm ~~~ Death is a tax the soul has to pay for having had a name and a form. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Sep 07, 2017 07:55 am I've been selling my pearls for a price
Happy is he who does good to others; miserable is he who expects good from others. Bowl of Saki, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Man's greatest enemy is his ego which manifests itself in selfishness. Even in his doing good, in his kind actions, selfishness is sometimes at work. When he does good with the thought that one day it may return to him and that he may share in the good, he sells his pearls for a price. A kind action, a thought of sympathy, of generosity, is too precious to trade with. One should give and, while giving, close the eyes. Man should remember to do every little action, every little kindness, every act of generosity with his whole heart, without the desire of getting anything in return making a trade out of it. The satisfaction must be in doing it and in nothing else. http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_1.htm It is said that if someone asks you to go with him one mile, you should go with him two miles. That means, if someone makes use of our services, let us not think, 'Why should I, such an important person, serve another, give my time to another?' Let us give our services more liberally than we are asked to do. Let us give service, give our time; but when the time for receiving comes, do not let us expect to receive anything. Let us not expect our friend to be as we are to him; that will never be possible. We must then practice renunciation. We must practice virtue because we like it; do good because we like to do it and not for any return; expect no kindness or appreciation; if we do, it will become a trade. This is the right way for the world in general, and the only way of becoming happy. **** The principal teaching of Sufism is that the heart of man is the shrine of God, to recognize God in one's own heart, to feel His existence, presence, virtue, goodness, all manner of beauty. It must be remembered that the whole life around us is a life of falsehood. The more you see and experience the more you see how very false it is, how much disillusionment there is. The only way of getting over it is to light the lamp in the darkness of night, and all will be cleared. The secret of life is this: to produce beauty in ourselves. When beauty is produced in the heart, then all that breaks the heart vanishes and the whole universe becomes one single vision of the sublimity of God. **** Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Oct 04, 2017 12:49 am Hazrat Inayat Khan speaks on renunciation...
(http://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik18.jpg) Renunciation is always for a purpose; it is to kindle the soul that nothing may hold it back from God, but when it is kindled, the life of renunciation is not necessary. Bowl of Saki, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Renunciation has an automatic action on the heart of man, an action which very few realize because very few arrive at that stage where they can renounce. By this action a spiritual spark is kindled in the soul; and when a person has arrived at that stage he has taken the first step on the path of spirituality. The spark produced by this action in the depths of the heart culminates in a flame, a torch in life; and this changes the whole outlook on life. The whole world seems changed, the same world in which one has lived and suffered and enjoyed and learned and unlearned -- everything appears to change once renunciation is learned. ... He alone is capable of renunciation who finds a greater satisfaction in seeing another eat his piece of bread than in eating it himself. Only he whose heart is full of happiness after an act of renunciation should make a renunciation. This shows that renunciation is not something that can be learned or taught. It comes by itself as the soul develops, when the soul begins to see the true value of things. All that is valuable to others a seer begins to see differently. Thus the value of all the things that we consider precious or not precious, is according to the way we look at them. For one person the renunciation of a penny is too much; for another that of everything he possesses is nothing. It depends on how we look at things. One rises above all that one renounces in life. Man remains the slave of anything which he has not renounced; of that which he has renounced he becomes king. This whole world can become a kingdom to a person who has renounced it. Renunciation depends upon the evolution of the soul. One who has not evolved spiritually cannot really renounce. Toys so precious to children mean nothing to the grown-up; it is easy to renounce them; and so it is for those who develop spiritually; for them all things are easy to renounce. http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIIIa/VIIIa_1_13.htm Be obstinate in the path of success. Nothing should keep you back from your effort when your resolution is once taken. Renounce your object of attainment only when you have reached it and you have a better one in view. But when you have attained the object and you cling to it, then you hinder your own progress, for the object is greater than yourself. You are greater than the object when you are able to renounce it after attaining it. ~~~ "Githa I, 3 - The Path of Attainment", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) Some lead the life of renunciation, others have family, friends and all things, because renunciation is always for a purpose. It is to kindle the soul, that there may be nothing to hold the soul back from God, but when the soul is kindled the life of renunciation is not a necessity. ~~~ "Supplementary Papers, Life of the Sage in the East(1)", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) It is as Fariduddin Attar, the great Persian poet, says, 'Renounce the good of the world, renounce the good of heaven, renounce your highest ideal, and then renounce your renunciation.' http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XI/XI_III_9.htm ~~~ Renunciation is always for a purpose; it is to kindle the soul that nothing may hold it back from God, but when it is kindled, the life of renunciation is not necessary. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Nov 12, 2017 07:23 pm (http://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik95.jpg)
When the mind and body are restless, nothing in life can be accomplished. Success is the result of control. Bowl of Saki, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan When a person allows himself to be disturbed, that shows that his concentration is not good. And if his concentration is not good, that shows that his will power fails him. The best way, therefore, to protect oneself from disturbance is to develop the power of concentration, so that the will power develops naturally and one is able to withstand all the disturbances which arise when one has to live in the midst of the crowd. http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IV/IV_29.htm Independence is achieved by indifference. It does not mean that one should take no heed of what anyone does or says; it only means one should discriminate between important and unimportant things of everyday life; that every necessary and unnecessary thing should not demand so much of one's attention, thought, and feeling. Political economy has become a subject of education, but spiritual economy is the main thing in religion. All one says and does and all that one thinks and feels puts a certain strain upon one's spirit. It is wise to avoid every risk of losing one's equilibrium. One must stand peacefully but firmly before all influences that disturb one's life. The natural inclination is to answer in defense to every offense that comes from outside, but in that way one loses one's equilibrium. Self-control, therefore, is the key to all success and happiness. http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_III_1.htm Another sign of progress is that, at times, one begins to feel peaceful. This may increase so much that a restful feeling comes in the heart. One might be in the solitude, but even if one is in a crowd, one still feels restful. Life in the world is most exciting; it has a tiring effect upon a sensitive person. When one is restless, the conditions in life can make one experience the greatest discomfort, for there is no greater pain than restlessness. If there is any remedy for the lack of peace, it is spiritual progress. Once peace is developed in a soul, that soul feels such a great power and has such a great influence upon those who approach it and upon all upsetting conditions and jarring influences coming from all sides. Just as water makes the dust settle down, so all jarring influences settle down under the feet of the peaceful. http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_2_9.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Nov 21, 2017 05:50 am Bowl of Saki for November 20 It is the soul's light which is natural intelligence. Bowl of Saki, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Coming to the cause of the lack of joy, one realizes by pondering on the subject that it is not pursuing after joy that results in disappointment, it is the wrong method adopted in the pursuit of joy which brings, instead of joy, sorrow or disappointment. ... Nothing can take away joy from the man who has right understanding. Through all conditions of life he will retain it, but the one who lacks understanding, nothing in the world or Heaven there is which can bring him a lasting joy. This shows that, in reality, joy does not come from the external life, though always it seems so. Joy has only one source and that is the heart of man, which is the globe over his soul's light. ~~~ "Sangatha III, Tasawwuf ", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Dec 07, 2017 05:51 am Things in the world are changeable; they are not to be relied upon. Man sees the vanity of the world; but if he does not see a reality in contrast, he remains intoxicated by the unreality, and tries to get some pleasure from his life, even for a moment. The happiness of this world is something we cannot keep; it is just like the horizon -- the nearer you go, the farther it goes. As soon as you get it, you see it is not the thing you wanted. That discontent continues its work till we have found and understood the manifestation of God, in which is hidden the Divine Spirit. God cannot be found in temples, for God is Love; and love does not live in temples, but in the heart of man, which is the temple of God.
~~~ "Supplementary Papers, Brotherhood I", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) ~~~ To deny the changeableness of life is like fancying a motionless sea, which can only exist in one's imagination. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: SI on Dec 07, 2017 06:39 am Things in the world are changeable; they are not to be relied upon. Man sees the vanity of the world; but if he does not see a reality in contrast, he remains intoxicated by the unreality, and tries to get some pleasure from his life, even for a moment. The happiness of this world is something we cannot keep; it is just like the horizon -- the nearer you go, the farther it goes. As soon as you get it, you see it is not the thing you wanted. That discontent continues its work till we have found and understood the manifestation of God, in which is hidden the Divine Spirit. God cannot be found in temples, for God is Love; and love does not live in temples, but in the heart of man, which is the temple of God. I don't see how you fear death when you post something like this. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Dec 07, 2017 06:56 am Hi SI
Yes and I have had dreams of an after life and even a few out of body experiences. But those have given me a fright at one point.. Though I fear death I find wisdom in these bits shared and they seem to help me reflect and how I go about my day. I learned about Sufi in a dream and hav been drawn to Inayat Khans expressive and philosophical nature. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: SI on Dec 07, 2017 07:00 am Hi SI Yes and I have had dreams of an after life and even a few out of body experiences. But those have given me a fright at one point.. Though I fear death I find wisdom in these bits shared and they seem to help me reflect and how I go about my day. I dunno, maybe that's what needs to happen for you to understand. If those things happened to me I think I would be mostly like "I know I get it", so either I move on right then or what's the point? Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Dec 07, 2017 05:09 pm Hi SI Yes and I have had dreams of an after life and even a few out of body experiences. But those have given me a fright at one point.. Though I fear death I find wisdom in these bits shared and they seem to help me reflect and how I go about my day. I learned about Sufi in a dream and hav been drawn to Inayat Khans expressive and philosophical nature. You have much good karma to have such experiences. They have helped u much and the initial fright may just be getting used to such occurrences and relating them to this life's experiences. This life can also be a frightening experience until we get used to many of these lives and call on our spiritual guides to navigate us beyond the storms of maya. Such experiences can be inspirational to search more and for understanding our soul nature. I enjoy your sharing your experiences. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: SI on Dec 07, 2017 06:52 pm You have much good karma to have such experiences. They have helped u much and the initial fright may just be getting used to such occurrences and relating them to this life's experiences. This life can also be a frightening experience until we get used to many of these lives and call on our spiritual guides to navigate us beyond the storms of maya. Such experiences can be inspirational to search more and for understanding our soul nature. I enjoy your sharing your experiences. Fear is funny as it comes on many forms, causes so much misunderstanding, very distracting. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jan 16, 2018 09:36 pm To learn to adopt the standard of God, and to cease to wish to make the world conform to one's own standard of good, is the chief lesson of religion. Bowl of Saki, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jan 23, 2018 05:41 am Inayat Khan has inspired me to stay the course tonight...
“Failure comes when will surrenders to reason. Bowl of Saki, by Hazrat Inayat Khan” He elaborated in his commentary and makes me wonder what miracles occur as a result of increased will power- could they be beyond our imagination...? “ Will is not [merely] 'a power', but it is all the power there is. How did God create the world? By will. Therefore, what we call 'will power' in us is in reality 'God power,' a power that increases by our recognizing its potentiality and proves to be the greatest phenomenon in life. If there is any secret behind the mystery of the world of phenomena that can be learned, it is will power. It is by will power that all we do, physically or mentally, is accomplished. Our hands, with all their perfect mechanisms, cannot hold a glass of water if there is no will power to support them. If will power fails, a person seemingly healthy will not be able to stand. http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/II/II_38.htm“ Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Feb 09, 2018 06:10 am Love manifests towards those whom we like as love; towards those whom we do not like as forgiveness.
Bowl of Saki, February 8, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Feb 11, 2018 06:00 pm He who arrives at the state of indifference without experiencing interest in life is incomplete and apt to be tempted by interest at any moment; but he who arrives at the state of indifference by going through interest really attains the blessed state.
Bowl of Saki, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Mar 02, 2018 07:14 am Inayat Khan often speaks about Nature as a teacher... And todays Saki he says it is one of the greatest teachers...
Nature speaks louder than the call from the minaret. Bowl of Saki, by Hazrat Inayat Khan When a person travels in a tramcar, in the train, with a newspaper in his hand, he wants to read the sensational news which is worth nothing. He should read human nature which is before him, people coming and going. If he would continue to do this, he would begin to read human beings as though they were letters written by the divine pen, which speak of their past and future. He should look deeply at the heavens and at nature and at all the things to be seen in everyday life, and reflect upon them with the desire to understand. This kind of study is much superior, incomparably superior, to the study of books. https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_15.htm Just as there is a communication between persons who love each other very much, so the sympathy of a person whose soul has unfolded itself is so awakened that not only every person but even every object begins to reveal its nature, its character and secret. To him every man is a written letter. We hear stories of saints and sages who talked with rocks and plants and trees. They are not only stories; it is reality. It is also told of the apostles that at the moment when the Spirit descended upon them they began to speak many languages. When they understood so many languages, they understood the language of every soul. It means that the illuminated soul understands the language of every soul. And every soul has its own language. It is that which is called revelation. https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_2_19.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Mar 11, 2018 09:57 am Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan
Everyone says or does or thinks only according to his own particular evolution, and he cannot do better. Why not, therefore tolerate? Why not, therefore, forgive? ~~~ "Religious Gatheka, Religion of the Heart III (#44)", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) The first sign of realization is tolerance towards others. There are the words of Christ: 'In the house of my father are many mansions' and those of the Prophet: 'Each soul has its own religion' This means that according to his evolution so man knows the truth and the more a man knows, the more he finds there is to learn. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_7.htm Every man's pursuit is according to his evolution. Bowl of Saki, March 10, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Mar 21, 2018 06:01 am It is wise to see all things, and yet to turn our eyes from all that should be overlooked.
Bowl of Saki, March 20, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan It is to the great disadvantage of the fault-finding man that he wishes to find fault with all he sees, for if he is not able to throw away immediately the undesirable impression received, which is not always so easy, he begins in due time to reproduce what he has received. ... If man only knew what harm is brought to one's being by letting any undesirable impression enter the heart, he also would adopt the above-mentioned policy of the wise, to overlook. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_20.htm The aim of the Sufi, therefore, is to see and yet not be interested. ... Those who trouble about others' thoughts and interest themselves in others' actions most often lose their time and blunt their inner sight. Those who go farther, their moral is to overlook all they see on their way, as their mind is fixed on the goal. ... The best thing is to see and rise above, never to halt on the way, and it is this attitude that, if constantly practiced, will lead man safely to his soul's desired goal. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_5.htm There is a tendency which manifests itself and grows in a person who is advancing spiritually, and that tendency is overlooking. At times this tendency might appear as negligence, but in reality negligence is not necessarily overlooking. Negligence is most often not looking. Overlooking may be called in other words rising beyond these things: one has to rise in order to overlook; the one who stands beneath life could not overlook, even if he wanted to. Overlooking is a manner of graciousness; it is looking and at the same time not looking. It is seeing and not taking notice of what is seen. It is being hurt or harmed or disturbed by something and yet not minding it. It is an attribute of nobleness of nature. It is the sign of souls who are tuned to a higher key. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_11.htm Whenever we see that goodness is lacking, we may add to it from our own heart and so complete the nobility of human nature. This is done by patience, tolerance, kindness, forgiveness. The lover of goodness loves every little sign of goodness. He overlooks the faults and fills up the gaps by pouring out love and supplying that which is lacking. This is real nobility of soul. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_9.htm ~~~ It is wise to see all things, and yet to turn our eyes from all that should be overlooked. (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik42.jpg) A wise man once told me that you do not find fault in your Beloved. The moment you count her flaws she is no longer your Beloved. I think I am beginning to understand what he means. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 25, 2018 04:55 am Wow u are so true!!!!
A wise man once told me that you do not find fault in your Beloved. The moment you count her flaws she is no longer your Beloved. I think I am beginning to understand what he means. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Apr 17, 2018 06:19 am "God is love" - three words which open up an unending realm for the thinker who desires to probe the depths of the secret of life.
Bowl of Saki, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Every kind of power lies in this one thing which we call by the simple name: love. Charity, generosity, kindness, affection, endurance, tolerance, and patience -- all these words are different aspects of one; they are different names of only one thing: love. Whether it is said, 'God is love,' or whatever name is given to it, all the names are the names of God; and yet every form of love, every name for love, has its own peculiar scope, has a peculiarity of its own. Love as kindness is one thing, love as tolerance is another, love as generosity is another, love as patience another; and yet from beginning to end it is just love. https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_9.htm Love, whether it is human or divine is considered to be sacred, in the view of the mystics, philosophers, and thinkers. That it is possible to regard it thus is shown by the fact that in its root it is beyond both the human and the divine. As it is written in the Bible, 'God is Love', three words which open up an unending realm for the thinker who desires to probe the depth of the secret of love. In ordinary life, we make this word mean affection for our surroundings, for our relatives or our beloved, but when we think deeply about it, we see that from start to finish it represents the power underlying the power of all activities and all intelligences. https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_9.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Apr 25, 2018 07:12 am Wow I don't think I've read this one or if I have it has been a while... Spot ON with my thoughts and feelings...
Goodness! ^_^ The aim of the mystic is to keep near to the idea of unity, and to find out where we unite. Bowl of Saki, April 24, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Whatever a man desires, that desire informs us of the state of mind he is in, and those who understand the mind well, know the mind of another simply by studying the desires and tendencies of his life. Love of a rose, a lily, a jasmine, of sweet, sour, salt, or savory things, expresses the particular tendency of a person's mind, the mood he is in. Modern education omits the study of the truth which teaches us that unity comes from nature's variety, whereas the sole aim of the mystic is to keep near to the idea of unity and to find out where we unite. https://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.php Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Apr 29, 2018 05:54 pm On Silence...
In everyday life we are confronted with a thousand troubles that we are not always evolved enough to meet, and then only silence can help us. For if there is any religion, if there is any practice of religion, it is to have regard for the pleasure of God by regarding the pleasure of man. The essence of religion is to understand. And this religion we cannot live without having power over the word, without having realized the power of silence. There are so very many occasions when we repent after hurting friends, which could have been avoided if there had been control over our words. Silence is the shield of the ignorant and the protection of the wise. For the ignorant does not prove his ignorance if he keeps silent, and the wise man does not throw pearls before swine if he knows the worth of silence. What gives power over words? What gives the power that can be attained by silence? The answer is: it is will-power which gives the control over words; it is silence which gives one the power of silence. It is restlessness when a person speaks too much. The more words are used to express an idea, the less powerful they become. It is a great pity that man so often thinks of saving pennies and never thinks of sparing words. It is like saving pebbles and throwing away pearls. An Indian poet says, 'Pearl-shell, what gives you your precious contents? Silence; for years my lips were closed.' For a moment it is a struggle with oneself; it is controlling an impulse; but afterwards the same thing becomes a power. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IV/IV_34.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Apr 30, 2018 05:18 am You've already found out what it means to speak or keep silent at the right time and in the right place to keep silent is perfectly Divine and brings blessings on all concerned if we do so where and when we should but on the other hand if we keep silent in a place or at a time when we should speak up as for example when we might save a person from a great danger with just a word our keeping silence becomes satanic.
These words are important because we as spiritual beings should not allow the wickedness and evil acts of a mob run our country. Title: An Important Lesson Post by: guest88 on May 03, 2018 03:36 am I am posting yesterday's saki. I found this to be one of the most important lessons for me right now. I am blown away by how aligned I am with the teachings of Hazrat Inayat Khan and how I came to discover Sufism in the first place. It is curious to me how I do not give more importance to the synchronistic experience's that strengthen faith in an unseen intelligent force. Here's to raising awareness. And on to the lesson....
There are plenty of tidbits/talking points in this one saki alone so I will focus on the thing that immediately stood out to me. But first (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik11.jpg) You can have all good things - wealth, friends, kindness, love to give and love to receive - once you have learned not to be blinded by them, learned to escape from disappointment, and from repugnance at the idea that things are not as you want them to be. Bowl of Saki, May 1, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Do not expect much from friends. Why must they be as you want them to be? They are not made by you. They are as they are. You must try to be for them what they expect you to be. It matters little if your friend proves to you to be a friend. What matters is, if you prove to be a friend. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XII/XII_III_1.htm However evolved we may be with our education and experience, yet what are we really seeking? Things from which we cannot derive any lasting gain. From these false things we gain the experience that the things to which we have hitherto attached importance and which we have valued are things that do not last. We learn at length that it would be wise to remember that all these objects and ideals and aspirations which we have in life should be judged according to whether they are dependable or not, lasting or not. After we have perceived the truth that this or that is not to be depended upon, we find that it is not necessary to renounce them all, to give up everything in life. We can be in the crowd just as well as in seclusion in the wilderness. We can have all good things, wealth, friends, kindness, love to give and love to take once we have learned not to be blinded by them, learned to escape from disappointment, learned to escape from repugnance at the idea that the things are not as we would want them to be. A man can still attend to business, he may attain wealth, he can carry out all those things, but now his eyes are wide open; before, they were blind. This is the teaching of life. ... It is not the actual literal renunciation which counts, it is the personal abandonment of belief in the importance of transient things. ... If there is such a thing as saintly renunciation, it is renouncing small gains for better gains; not for no gains, but seeing with open eyes what is better and what is inferior. Even if the choice has to lie between two momentary gains, one of these would always be found to be more real and lasting; that is the one that should be followed for the time. When we take the torch of wisdom to show us our path through life, we will end by realizing what is really profitable in life and what is not. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_15.htm ~~~ You can have all good things -- wealth, friends, kindness, love to give and love to receive -- once you have learned not to be blinded by them, learned to escape from disappointment, and from repugnance at the idea that things are not as you want them to be. --------- Wow! At first I was hesitant when Inayat Khan says how we must try to be there for our friends even if they are not there for us. Then I realized he is describing a personal gain on a spiritual sense and could not agree more with this statement. If I believe in Love and wish to grow in this area, then Loving those who aren't always there for us makes sense. They don't need to know our belief's and recognizing that service to our friends even those who may dismiss us is service to God. No, I am not always there for friends- my ego is still so large and fragile. But I am understanding the WEALTH in this advice, the internal pursuits and kinship between God and I alone(you and God)- something that can not be described in words. The second most important lesson I am finding is, there is no need to renounce something if you can find a greater understanding in it and if you are not controlled by it.... This speaks to me. I have struggled with alcohol for a while. I have tried renouncing it but find I still enjoy a beverage from time to time. My understanding to this issue has been an internal battle between a comfort and fulfillment. I love how the goal is to be a part of the world yet for the most part unhindered by its influence. One does not need to be a hermit to achieve a great spiritual liberation. Lately I find I am not as dependent on alcohol as I once was- I find value in being able to maintain a level of self awareness while in the crowd even when offered a drink by a friend. In fact, self awareness is the mantra as of late for most every moment. No longer looking to get “fucked up” but find I'm not having to isolate myself from any social gatherings either. I am sure we all have our own way to deal with this kind of stuff but it is a great reassurance and so much to learn from his words. While I am happy to be making strides, I have seen the grip of alcoholism on this family and am still extremely cautious. With anything, the moment I think I've gotten something down I am reminded the opposite- that I still struggle with an addictive or overly excited energy... On top of trying to discover why we do the things we do, meditation has helped slow my thoughts down and be less judgemental. I am easily agitated but am trying... Never give up, always maintain a fighting spirit and pray for awareness right? It's funny how personable yet aloof it seems we must be when living a spiritual life. Hmm Cheers. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on May 06, 2018 10:04 am You can have all good things - wealth, friends, kindness, love to give and love to receive - once you have learned not to be blinded by them, learned to escape from disappointment, and from repugnance at the idea that things are not as you want them to be. ~
Bowl of Saki, May 1, by Hazrat Inayat Khan I think that some us become acquainted with the fact that unlike much of the rest of the population who learn by bitter experiences alone....there emerges patterns in our lives. Those patterns are often orchestrated by forces higher then ourselves. This is when we learn that we have gurus helping us in this school house called life....and guiding us towards enlightenment. Quote from Eric; I am posting yesterday's saki. I found this to be one of the most important lessons for me right now. I am blown away by how aligned I am with the teachings of Hazrat Inayat Khan and how I came to discover Sufism in the first place. It is curious to me how I do not give more importance to the synchronistic experience's that strengthen faith in an unseen intelligent force. Here's to raising awareness. And on to the lesson.... "GOD TALKS WITH ARJUNA" THE BHAGAVAD GITA ~ ॐ ~ (Day 66.) Sat. 5th May, 2018 . Chapter 3, Verse:- 28-31 ~ Pages: 392-398. ~ॐ ~ "KARMA YOGA:~ 'THE PATH OF SPIRITUAL ACTION." ~ ॐ ~ THE YOGI NOT ONLY RELINQUISHES EGOTISM during the all-surrendering union (Yoga) of mind BLISS - in MEDITATION, but during ORDINARY wakeful ACTIVITY AS WELL. In the highest state of ECSTASY - the Yogi can REMAIN united TO SPIRIT even while working with mind and body - to carry out the DIVINE PLAN. By engaging with DIVINE CONSCIOUSNESS in ALL of his ACTIVITIES, the DEVOTEE is FREE of EGOTISTIC LIMITATIONS during wakefulness, as in the ordinary Man during sleep. (Read on page 398.) ........ Paramahansa Yogananda ......... Title: Re: An Important Lesson Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on May 13, 2018 11:58 am Eric Thank-You i am so grateful that you continue to bring this unique wisdom to us from Hazrat Inayat Khan. It was not without his blessings that you are an instrument of his presence with us. This has made the forum very attractive and helpful spiritually speaking. I always come back to his wisdom and spiritual teachings and feel that i am connected to these teachings and sufism myself. Perhaps that is even how we were once together in the past my brother...i truly love u and am grateful for your presence and bringing this great spiritual guru to our site Eric. Steve Hydonus/Jitendra I am posting yesterday's saki. I found this to be one of the most important lessons for me right now. I am blown away by how aligned I am with the teachings of Hazrat Inayat Khan :)and how I came to discover Sufism in the first place. It is curious to me how I do not give more importance to the synchronistic experience's that strengthen faith in an unseen intelligent force. Here's to raising awareness. And on to the lesson.... There are plenty of tidbits/talking points in this one saki alone so I will focus on the thing that immediately stood out to me. But first (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik11.jpg) You can have all good things - wealth, friends, kindness, love to give and love to receive - once you have learned not to be blinded by them, learned to escape from disappointment, and from repugnance at the idea that things are not as you want them to be. Bowl of Saki, May 1, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Do not expect much from friends. Why must they be as you want them to be? They are not made by you. They are as they are. You must try to be for them what they expect you to be. It matters little if your friend proves to you to be a friend. What matters is, if you prove to be a friend. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XII/XII_III_1.htm However evolved we may be with our education and experience, yet what are we really seeking? Things from which we cannot derive any lasting gain. From these false things we gain the experience that the things to which we have hitherto attached importance and which we have valued are things that do not last. We learn at length that it would be wise to remember that all these objects and ideals and aspirations which we have in life should be judged according to whether they are dependable or not, lasting or not. After we have perceived the truth that this or that is not to be depended upon, we find that it is not necessary to renounce them all, to give up everything in life. We can be in the crowd just as well as in seclusion in the wilderness. We can have all good things, wealth, friends, kindness, love to give and love to take once we have learned not to be blinded by them, learned to escape from disappointment, learned to escape from repugnance at the idea that the things are not as we would want them to be. A man can still attend to business, he may attain wealth, he can carry out all those things, but now his eyes are wide open; before, they were blind. This is the teaching of life. ... It is not the actual literal renunciation which counts, it is the personal abandonment of belief in the importance of transient things. ... If there is such a thing as saintly renunciation, it is renouncing small gains for better gains; not for no gains, but seeing with open eyes what is better and what is inferior. Even if the choice has to lie between two momentary gains, one of these would always be found to be more real and lasting; that is the one that should be followed for the time. When we take the torch of wisdom to show us our path through life, we will end by realizing what is really profitable in life and what is not. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_15.htm ~~~ You can have all good things -- wealth, friends, kindness, love to give and love to receive -- once you have learned not to be blinded by them, learned to escape from disappointment, and from repugnance at the idea that things are not as you want them to be. --------- Wow! At first I was hesitant when Inayat Khan says how we must try to be there for our friends even if they are not there for us. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on May 20, 2018 04:07 am (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik11.jpg)
He is wise who treats an acquaintance as a friend, and he is foolish who treats a friend as an acquaintance, and he is impossible who treats friends and acquaintances as strangers; you cannot help him. Bowl of Saki, May 19, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Friendship as the average person understands it is perhaps little more than acquaintance; but in reality it is more sacred than any other connection in the world. To a sincere person, entering into friendship is like entering the gates of heaven; and a visit to his friend is a pilgrimage to a true loving friend. When, in friendship, a thought arises, 'I will love you as you love me,' or, 'I will do to you as you do to me,' this takes away all the virtue of the friendship, because it is a commercial attitude, prevalent everywhere in the commercial world: everything is done for a return, and measure is given for measure. ... One ought to look upon acquaintanceship as the sowing of the seed of friendship, not as a situation forced upon one; for those who turn their backs on a man and look at him with contempt also do that to God. To think, 'That person is perhaps of no value; that person is of no importance,' is impractical, besides being unkind. As all things have their use, both flowers and thorns, both sweet and bitter, so all men are of some use; what position, what class, what race, what caste they belong to makes no difference. Friendship with good and bad, with wise and foolish, with high and low, is equally beneficial, whether to yourself or to the other. What does it matter if another be benefited by your friendship, since you would like to be benefited by someone else's friendship? He is wise who treats an acquaintance as a friend, and he is foolish who treats a friend as an acquaintance, and he is impossible who treats friends and acquaintances as strangers; you cannot help him. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_III_4.htm ~~~ He is wise who treats an acquaintance as a friend, and he is foolish who treats a friend as an acquaintance, and he is impossible who treats friends and acquaintances as strangers -- you cannot help him. Volume III: The Art of Personality https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_III_4.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on May 20, 2018 10:14 am Yea many people have difficulty being good friends...but for me spiritual friends are the ones to really hold on to...many people can bring your thoughts and consciousness downward.. These people are like ants...they just exist... They do not inspire or are very conscious. It is a lack of seeking and interest that makes them automatons...victims of their environment. Awareness and the quest for awareness sets human beings apart from other creatures. But most people just exist...what a waste of our time to be with such people. I really make attempts to be kind to others Eric. It is really a treasure when someone like you reciprocates.
Most people just don't understand reciprocity. Its hard to have an endurung relationship if its all one way. It's rare to find someone like Amma who can continue giving without end and needs no reciprocity. I suppose there is simething to learn in that. I just can be left feeling empty by people who take and take and just have no ability to give in return. Maybe there is a lesson in it for me as well...i try to remain open to all possibilities. Life is for learning and expanding our attitudes and behaviors beyond our set rigid attitudes. So what do you think? Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on May 20, 2018 04:49 pm Good morning Steve,
I think you're right. I also hope that I am not seen as a waste of time, and while I am far from the Sufi ideal I hope to incorporate more of its teachings into my life which means recognizing that every person here has a purpose and is a part of Gods creation. I think no one can truly judge another person save God. While we make our inferences, perhaps a necessity in our evolution, if one were to adapt the Sufi ideal then they see their service with others- as devotion to God. Perhaps this is how Amma views it, whether the person is deserving or not... Inayat Khan describes friendship as a commercial attitude vs a genuine attempt at practicing Love, which is an ideal that elevates one to living a more spiritually fulfilled life. I think too many times I fall back on this commercial attitude, even now, I display very selfish tricks to get something in return... I.E speaking to multiple girls for physical release without much consideration to the spiritual aspect of what's happening. Yup... I need to work on this and learn to tame myself... Anyways, I guess what I am saying is... It's okay to feel this way, and I think even viewing reality in this manner has helped you along your journey... And I venture to say, your view on people may change the further along this journey you go. I agree that when a genuine relationship is reciprocated, it can feel like Heaven. Lastly, if you've not read the art of personality in the last link provided(which is where the portion of yesterdays saki originates from) I would like to provide the last segment on servicing God for you to consider... Before I do... I don't know how Inayat Khan and this website does it... I swear it's like my findings in here are perfectly orchestrated with my life endeavors and my many failing's.... I find the right inspiration at the right time and it penetrates my Heart... So I take this to be a sign... I will continue to follow this path... I appreciate Mr. Khan's illuminations and all those who share their insights in walking a Spiritual Life... Here you go: Quote OUR DEALINGS WITH GOD God is the ideal that raises mankind to the utmost reach of perfection. As man considers and judges his dealings with man in his conscience, so the real worshipper of God considers his dealings with God. If he has helped anybody, if he has been kind to anybody, if he has made sacrifices for anybody, he does not look for appreciation or return for his doing so to the people to whom he has done good; for he considers that he has done it for God, and therefore, his account is with God, not with those with whom he has dealt. He does not care even if instead of praising they blame him; for in any case he has done it for God, who is the best judge and the knower of all things. There is no ideal that can raise the moral standard higher than the God-ideal, although love is the root of all and God is the fruit of this. Love's expansion and love's culmination and love's progress all depend upon the God-ideal. How much a man fears his friend, his neighbor, when he does something that might offend him whom he loves, whom he respects; and yet how narrow is his goodness when it is only for one person or for certain people! Imagine if he had the same consideration for God, then he would be considerate everywhere and in dealing with all people; as in a verse of a Sufi which says, 'Everywhere I go I find Thy sacred dwelling-place; and whichever side I look I see Thy beautiful face, my Beloved.' Love for God is the expansion of the heart, and all actions that come from the lover of God are virtues; they cannot be otherwise. There is a different outlook on life when the love of God has filled a man's heart. The lover of God will not hate anyone; for he knows that by doing so he will hate the Creator by hating His creation. He cannot be insincere, he cannot be unfaithful; for he will think that to be faithful and sincere to mankind is to be faithful and sincere to God. You can always trust the lover of God, however impractical or however lacking in cleverness he may appear to be, for simply to hold strongly in mind the thought of God purifies the soul of all bitterness, and gives man a virtue that he could obtain nowhere else and by no other means. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on May 22, 2018 06:00 am The presence of alternate views brings constructive change and reevaluation of our own attitudes and approach to reality and other people Eric. If we, on the other hand, remain entrenched in our own views we become rigid and unable to embrace a more inclusive view of the universe which will expand our consciousness. So we become psychological antques. So i think the very presence of your take on spiritual discipline and evolution can by contrast help everyone elses who comes here.
For most of us change does not come over nite but through experiences and repititious lessons provided for us through the grace of the Masters helping us see ourselves like others do and God does. Instead of have having finite views of ourselves and the world around us. So many times i find myself looking here and other places on the forum to find meaningful synchronicities that bring our spiritual link in focus and give me a buzz of awakening. Many times the warmth of friendship and someone else reaching out towards us in itself shows a concern for our welfare that attracts attention and a listening ear....knowing that another humam being cares about us and hopes to see us grow as an outlut of their expanding consciousness. For you....you have found a true guru who is able to transmit his spiritual vibration in a way that effects the personal events in your life...this brings the spiritual teachings alive so is contagious for me as well... Watching you go thru theses experiences and knowing that God has brought you in my life to help my own spiritual advancement as well. I know there ate many hard knocks in life....but it is sure wonderful when we are able to recognize that our spiritual guides are helping us thru the the support rather then apparent resistance of circumstances. When so many things in this life seem temporary unreliable and inconsistant...it is quite a an impression that is left with you when a friend keeps giving support in a common cause and it gives pause to reflect on differences that would otherwise affect many more tenuous relatiinships. Perhaps it is important to consider these things and that i am fortunate to have someone who cares even when i may be obstinate myself and go on in blissful ignorance of my own spiritual recognition. We see how beautiful friendship can be when people flow together. It makes us recognize that we ourselves can often cause resistance in the cosmic flow. This cosmic flow that runs like sweet sap behind the events. The outward events require much more adjustment and less ease...Especially if we fail to put our relationships in the hands of our spiritual guides for our unfoldment. Title: Fear Judgment Weakness Strength Humility Patience Release Post by: guest88 on Jun 05, 2018 05:56 am Yet another Home Run with today's saki... I am a bit ashamed to admit this... But I have no doubt played King Fool... Maybe one too many times, I've lost friends and lovers because of it. Even today, while I try harder, I see the outcome has not been as it is desired. I can achieve, I will achieve... I have no doubt in my mind- from the sheer progress... Yet I read these teachings from Hazarat Inayat Khan and I can not help but feel I am the weakness he describes, the one whom he makes example of and it is not anything to boast about. As of late, I have realized I am guilty of Gossip- where I've been hurt and shared my experience to a third party for validation. How silly... Today's saki Inayat Khan teaches us the importance of relationships and the sacredness in each. To treat each relationship as a private affair, to hold ones tongue despite the inclination to express and to recognize that if God exist in us all then it is for that and the Hope which transcends you practice these things.
My drums have beaten so loudly lately that I believe I am the cause of the negative impressions, at least residing in them more than positive. You see I've had nothing but good things around me yet in my pursuits to excel and rapidly I've taken many steps backwards or I hold not just myself but others to perhaps unrealistic standards and create a toxic reality- one that corrodes. There's more but it isn't necessary to be so loud... I must retreat... I can't believe I've gone days without meditation... I can't believe the Saki penetrates my soul yet again- this time through my admitted faults and shortcomings... Things I still struggle with.. Yet there is always Hope... And there is a Will, with steady progression. Perhaps it is as he says, it is important to take a step back and see how Creation provides alternative perspectives... Well I am drifting, rambling and assuming my reality is of importance here yet I am inclined to sharing because these lessons are on par and perhaps those reading relate or feel their own torches lit as a result... So, without further delay: Quote The secret of a friend should be kept as one's own secret; the fault of a friend one should hide as one's own fault. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_III_1.htmBowl of Saki, June 4, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan A very important thing in character-building is to become conscious of one's relationship, obligation, and duty to each person in the world, and not to mix that link and connection which is established between oneself and another with a third person. One must consider that everything that is entrusted to one by any person in life is one's trust, and one must know that to prove true to the confidence of any person in the world is one's sacred obligation. In this manner a harmonious connection is established with everyone; and it is this harmony which attunes the soul to the infinite. ... Dharma in the language of the Hindus means religion, but the literal meaning of this word is duty. It suggests that one's relation to every person in the world is one's religion; and the more conscientiously one follows it, the more keen one proves in following one's religion. To keep the secret of our friend, our acquaintance, even of someone with whom for a time one has been vexed, is the most sacred obligation. The one who thus realizes his religion would never consider it right to tell another of any harm or hurt he has received from his friend. It is in this way that self-denial is learned; not always by fasting and retiring into the wilderness. ... The one who knows what the relation of friendship is between one soul and another, the tenderness of that connection, its delicacy, its beauty, and its sacredness, that one can enjoy life in its fullness, for he is living; and in this manner he must some day communicate with God. For it is the same bridge that connects two souls in the world, which, once built, becomes the path to God. Quote A friend, in the true sense of the word, is nearer and closer than our own family, relations, neighbors, nation, and race. The secret of the friend should be kept as one's own secret: the fault of the friend one should hide as one's own fault; the honor of the friend must be considered as one's own honor; an enemy of the friend should be regarded as our enemy; a friend of the friend must be considered as our friend. One must not boast of friendship, but must practice it, for the claimants are so often false. In the despair of the friend, consolation must be given; in the poverty of the friend, support is necessary; in the shortcomings of the friend, overlooking is necessary; in the trouble of the friend, help should be given; with the joy of the friend, rejoicing is right. Please read these volumes of study if you wish to dissect my babble or perhaps even more magical, gain clarity to you own affairs.... In Loving Service... <3 (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik36.jpg) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jun 17, 2018 04:44 am Quote Every experience on the physical, astral or mental plane is just a dream before the soul. Perhaps, ideas of a past or future life brighten the impression of these words Bowl of Saki, June 16, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jun 17, 2018 05:59 am Eric I have found that sometimes a third party or friend that knows well a mutual friend has helped me very much in understanding and dealing with our mutual friend. So I am shedding some different liight on this subject. In this case it was very helpful to evchange info on how the negativity of our friend disrupted our relationship and friendship for both of us. Also we both were empowered in how to deal with the situation.
Yet another Home Run with today's saki... I am a bit ashamed to admit this... But I have no doubt played King Fool... Maybe one too many times, I've lost friends and lovers because of it. Even today, while I try harder, I see the outcome has not been as it is desired. I can achieve, I will achieve... I have no doubt in my mind- from the sheer progress... Yet I read these teachings from Hazarat Inayat Khan and I can not help but feel I am the weakness he describes, the one whom he makes example of and it is not anything to boast about. As of late, I have realized I am guilty of Gossip- where I've been hurt and shared my experience to a third party for validation. How silly... Today's saki Inayat Khan teaches us the importance of relationships and the sacredness in each. To treat each relationship as a private affair, to hold ones tongue despite the inclination to express and to recognize that if God exist in us all then it is for that and the Hope which transcends you practice these things. My drums have beaten so loudly lately that I believe I am the cause of the negative impressions, at least residing in them more than positive. You see I've had nothing but good things around me yet in my pursuits to excel and rapidly I've taken many steps backwards or I hold not just myself but others to perhaps unrealistic standards and create a toxic reality- one that corrodes. There's more but it isn't necessary to be so loud... I must retreat... I can't believe I've gone days without meditation... I can't believe the Saki penetrates my soul yet again- this time through my admitted faults and shortcomings... Things I still struggle with.. Yet there is always Hope... And there is a Will, with steady progression. Perhaps it is as he says, it is important to take a step back and see how Creation provides alternative perspectives... Well I am drifting, rambling and assuming my reality is of importance here yet I am inclined to sharing because these lessons are on par and perhaps those reading relate or feel their own torches lit as a result... So, without further delay: Quote The secret of a friend should be kept as one's own secret; the fault of a friend one should hide as one's own fault. Bowl of Saki, June 4, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan A very important thing in character-building is to become conscious of one's relationship, obligation, and duty to each person in the world, and not to mix that link and connection which is established between oneself and another with a third person. One must consider that everything that is entrusted to one by any person in life is one's trust, and one must know that to prove true to the confidence of any person in the world is one's sacred obligation. Dharma in the language of the Hindus means religion, but the literal meaning of this word is duty. It suggests that one's relation to every person in the world is one's religion; and the more conscientiously one follows it, the more keen one proves in following one's religion. To keep the secret of our friend, our acquaintance, even of someone with whom for a time one has been vexed, is the most sacred obligation. Quote A friend, in the true sense of the word, is nearer and closer than our own family, relations, neighbors, nation, and race. The secret of the friend should be kept as one's own secret: the fault of the friend one should hide as one's own fault; the honor of the friend must be considered as one's own honor; an enemy of the friend should be regarded as our enemy; a friend of the friend must be considered as our friend. One must not boast of friendship, but must practice it, for the claimants are so often false. In the despair of the friend, consolation must be given; in the poverty of the friend, support is necessary; in the shortcomings of the friend, overlooking is necessary; in the trouble of the friend, help should be given; with the joy of the friend, rejoicing is right. Please read these volumes of study if you wish to dissect my babble or perhaps even more magical, gain clarity to you own affairs.... In Loving Service... <3 (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik36.jpg) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jun 17, 2018 03:44 pm Dear Steve,
Thank you for your interest. Inayat Khan mentions gossip in the writing the art of personality and on character building, I encourage you to read the entire transcript linked below. Of course, when we are involved with our friends it’s easy to take things personally... it is amusing to say the least that a Sufi seeks god in the heart of man yet must learn indifference along the path... once you see god working through even those you call an enemy, I can only imagine that love transcends all pains. despite having this wisdom to fall back on I too find my very nature looking to others for validation and understanding. I think what you’re describing is different from the toxicity and entanglement of gossip. However- gossip, judgements and other transgressions are natural. This article is about mastery over self and will power. despite my shortcomings I continue on That sufism may help me live a life of peace, love and help me find a way to rise above duality. From studying these works, meditating and finding time to detach from those intimate relationships I am able to gain clarity- sometimes I can understand actions of others even so I think it best to reserve judgement and turn that inwards. Always going back to God in Love. I’ve taken snippets from the reading and pasted below. Again this is on how to improve yourself and do not expect you to agree with everything or conform to anything- I share with hopes that it too provides clarity as it does for me... https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_III_1.htm Quote It must be remembered that one shows lack of nobleness of character by love of gossiping. It is so natural, and yet it is a great fault in the character to cherish the tendency to talk about others. One shows a great weakness when one makes remarks about someone behind his back. In the first place it is against what may be called frankness, and also it is judging another, which is wrong according to the teaching of Christ, who says, 'Judge not, that ye be not judged'. When one allows this tendency to remain in one, one develops love of talking about others. It is a defect which commonly exists, and when two people meet who have the same tendency, they gossip together. One helps the other, one encourages the other. And when something is supported by two people of necessity it becomes a virtue, if only for the time being. Namaste Brother ... How few in this world know what an effect it makes on one's personality, talking ill of another; what influence it has on one's soul! Man's self within is not only like a dome where everything he says has an echo, but that echo is creative and productive of what has been said. Every good and bad thing in one's life one develops by taking interest in it. Every fault one has, as long as it is small, one does not notice it; and so one develops the fault till it results in a disappointment ... every outward manifestation is nothing but a reaction of the inner condition. Therefore the first control that one has to gain is over one's own self, one's inner self, which is done by strengthening the will, and also by understanding life better. ... In order to practice self-control in all one does in everyday life, the best thing is to develop in one's nature a certain amount of indifference. Every word that is said to one need not be taken to be so important that it upsets one's whole being, disturbs one's balance, and robs one of one's will power. There are things that matter; but there are many things in one's everyday life which do not matter much, and one is often apt to put undue stress upon them. ... Faults? Everyone has faults. Oneself, one's friend, and one's enemy are all subject to faults. The one who wishes that his own faults should not be disclosed must necessarily consider the same for the others he meets. The one who knows what the relation of friendship is between one soul and another, the tenderness of that connection, its delicacy, its beauty, and its sacredness, that one can enjoy life in its fullness, for he is living; and in this manner he must some day communicate with God. For it is the same bridge that connects two souls in the world, which, once built, becomes the path to God. There is no greater virtue in this world than proving kind and trustworthy to one's friend, worthy of his confidence. ... Depression, despair, and all manner of sorrow and sadness come from lack of generosity. Where does jealousy come from? Where does envy, aching of the heart come from? It all comes from lack of generosity. A man may not have one single coin to his name, and yet he can be generous, he can be noble, if only he has a large heart of friendly feeling. Life in the world offers every opportunity to a man, whatever be his position in life, to show if he has any spirit of generosity. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jun 17, 2018 04:03 pm Dear Steve, Thank you for your interest. Inayat Khan mentions gossip in the writing the art of personality and on character building, I encourage you to read the entire transcript linked below. Of course, we are very involved with our friends and begin to take things personally... it is amusing to say the least that a Sufi seeks god in the heart of man yet must learn indifference along the path... once you see god working through even those you call an enemy, I can only imagine that love transcends all pains. despite having this wisdom to fall back on I too find my very nature looking to others for validation and understanding- gossip, judgements and other transgressions are natural. This article is about mastery over self and will power. despite my shortcomings I continue on That sufism may help me live a life of peace, love and help me find a way to rise above duality. From studying these works, meditating and finding time to detach from those intimate relationships I am able to gain clarity- in trying to understand myself I find that I can understand others and when it is less personable you may eventually gain insights to the why when a person behaves in an unpleasant manner even so I find it best to reserve judgement and turn that inwards. Always going back to God in Love. I’ve taken snippets from the reading and pasted below. Again this is on how to improve yourself and do not expect you to agree with everything or conform to anything- I share with hopes that it too provides clarity as it does for me... https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_III_1.htm Quote It must be remembered that one shows lack of nobleness of character by love of gossiping. It is so natural, and yet it is a great fault in the character to cherish the tendency to talk about others. One shows a great weakness when one makes remarks about someone behind his back. In the first place it is against what may be called frankness, and also it is judging another, which is wrong according to the teaching of Christ, who says, 'Judge not, that ye be not judged'. When one allows this tendency to remain in one, one develops love of talking about others. It is a defect which commonly exists, and when two people meet who have the same tendency, they gossip together. One helps the other, one encourages the other. And when something is supported by two people of necessity it becomes a virtue, if only for the time being. Namaste Brother ... How few in this world know what an effect it makes on one's personality, talking ill of another; what influence it has on one's soul! Man's self within is not only like a dome where everything he says has an echo, but that echo is creative and productive of what has been said. Every good and bad thing in one's life one develops by taking interest in it. Every fault one has, as long as it is small, one does not notice it; and so one develops the fault till it results in a disappointment ... every outward manifestation is nothing but a reaction of the inner condition. Therefore the first control that one has to gain is over one's own self, one's inner self, which is done by strengthening the will, and also by understanding life better. ... In order to practice self-control in all one does in everyday life, the best thing is to develop in one's nature a certain amount of indifference. Every word that is said to one need not be taken to be so important that it upsets one's whole being, disturbs one's balance, and robs one of one's will power. There are things that matter; but there are many things in one's everyday life which do not matter much, and one is often apt to put undue stress upon them. ... Faults? Everyone has faults. Oneself, one's friend, and one's enemy are all subject to faults. The one who wishes that his own faults should not be disclosed must necessarily consider the same for the others he meets. The one who knows what the relation of friendship is between one soul and another, the tenderness of that connection, its delicacy, its beauty, and its sacredness, that one can enjoy life in its fullness, for he is living; and in this manner he must some day communicate with God. For it is the same bridge that connects two souls in the world, which, once built, becomes the path to God. There is no greater virtue in this world than proving kind and trustworthy to one's friend, worthy of his confidence. ... Depression, despair, and all manner of sorrow and sadness come from lack of generosity. Where does jealousy come from? Where does envy, aching of the heart come from? It all comes from lack of generosity. A man may not have one single coin to his name, and yet he can be generous, he can be noble, if only he has a large heart of friendly feeling. Life in the world offers every opportunity to a man, whatever be his position in life, to show if he has any spirit of generosity. I continue to read your captions with interest. However sometimes even friends can abuse us and do not always treat us in ways that are fair or kind. Often we understand this thru the treatment dealt out to us to others as well and that some people expect too much and are unwilling to reciprocate no matter how much u may explain this concept of repriprocity. They have their own view that somehow they are right and will not except any view but their own. Often what may be considered gossip is in fact reacurring behavior that is rigid in nature and goes unnnoticed until verified under different conditions and with more then one person. Recently I have been told what may be considered gossip and the faults of others that have helped me immensely avoid the continued and further abuse by so called friends. Also in the past I have been told disparaging things about others I considered to be friends which were in fact true and it would have been better if I listened to the so called gossip to save myself a lot of wasted time with people who really did not even have the capability to be true friends. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jun 17, 2018 04:23 pm Hi Steve,
Sorry I was writing very quickly without much time to construct my thoughts and words(rushed to work this morning) and would like to think more on what you said. I went back to try and clarify that understanding and gossip may be two different realities, I don’t think you go about talking illy of this person- just that something was not right and needed further understanding in yourself. If someone thinks they are right, We don’t need to invest so much energy trying to figure them out... why? in these moments I find myself rushing back to god in meditation and looking to detach and love. I have friends who tread different paths- it’s not for me to count what is owed or what is right or wrong, just that I can share in Love to the best of my ability with the personal belief that is a service and brings me closer to God. Real magic happens around this understanding... Peace bro <3 Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Dr. Suess on Jun 18, 2018 08:48 am Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened. Right?
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jun 18, 2018 01:12 pm Hi Steve, Sorry I was writing very quickly without much time to construct my thoughts and words(rushed to work this morning) and would like to think more on what you said. I went back to try and clarify that understanding and gossip may be two different realities, I don’t think you go about talking illy of this person- just that something was not right and needed further understanding in yourself. If someone thinks they are right, We don’t need to invest so much energy trying to figure them out... why? in these moments I find myself rushing back to god in meditation and looking to detach and love. I have friends who tread different paths- it’s not for me to count what is owed or what is right or wrong, just that I can share in Love to the best of my ability with the personal belief that is a service and brings me closer to God. Real magic happens around this understanding... Peace bro <3 I think that we occasionally get these insights like ‘ oh I see what this is about now. It’s all about you and does not include any of me. It’s like a rut you dug and find it easy to go down and want me to do the same without question. What’s easy for me should be the same for you. But we may have a different way of lookin at it. Like let’s try something different too and see where that goes. But the other person is like no i’m Used to my way and your causin too much work for me.... so you might just have to pause for reflection and see where u have really started off in a meaningful direction even though a close friend may not see it that way. We can still be very appreciative for the times our friends have and will go out of the way to help and assist us when we have been in need while recognizing the pot holes people get into and just feel comfortable staying in them. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jun 19, 2018 10:07 am Meeting new people or making new friends, and perhaps spending less time with friendships that have grown stale, tired or dated can also be a new circumstance.
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jun 19, 2018 09:41 pm Meeting new people or making new friends, and perhaps spending less time with friendships that have grown stale, tired or dated can also be a new circumstance. I think it is a tragedy to view any friendship as stale, draining or dated- yet it is reality, so do we consider these old relationships friends or acquaintances ... all the more reason I wish to cultivate indifference and love for the human experience ... maybe it’s a fools desire to want others to feel love when they think of you, worrying to much about the wrong thing or persons... how to reside in gods love and feel gods love so these things don’t matter... that seems good enough If I can just relinquish these thoughts that are constantly pulling me away from inner peace Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jun 19, 2018 09:42 pm Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened. Right? :)Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jun 21, 2018 05:48 am Dear Jitendra,
I find that Amma and Inayat Khan indeed, Sufism are very similar. Both recognize that each soul has a unique path and what matters are the divine qualities- even in those who call themselves atheist. It's all for Love. The greatest message is to simply Love. True, our ego often conflicts with this awareness. Yet it is both Amma and Inayat Khan who teach- Faith & Awareness are the greatest tools to transcending duality, to being a great benefactor to society and to meeting face to face with our truest spiritual selves. I would definitely call Amma a deva. I also think she is a true guru who has the ability to guide her disciples to enlightenment and she has given them the tool of the iam technique of meditation and many other helpful tecchniques to spiritualize consciousness and free us from delusion. Her unique path lies in the idea that no one has to change their religion to join her only practice their own religion. While Amma is widely regarded as one of India’s foremost spiritual leaders, Amma says that her religion is love. She has never asked anyone to change their religion but only to contemplate the essential principles of their own faith and to try to live accordingly. Quote Love lies in service; only that which is done not for fame or name, not for the appreciation or thanks of those for whom it is done, is love's service. And so it is, the very God we run towards Loves regardless of what mankind understands as good or bad- Loves despite ones transgressions and what others may deem annoyances or even dullness. And what truly blows my mind are how both Inayat Khan and Mata Amritanandamayi both seek God in the heart of man- the very essence of Sufi religion. Bowl of Saki, June 20, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan Love lies in service. Only that which is done, not for fame or name, nor for the appreciation or thanks of those for whom it is done, is love's service. The lover shows kindness and beneficence to the beloved. He does whatever he can for the beloved in the way of help, service, sacrifice, kindness, or rescue, and hides it from the world and even from the beloved. If the beloved does anything for him he exaggerates it, idealizes it, makes it into a mountain from a molehill. He takes poison from the hands of the beloved as sugar, and love's pain in the wound of his heart is his only joy. By magnifying and idealizing whatever the beloved does for him and by diminishing and forgetting whatever he himself does for the beloved, he first develops his own gratitude, which creates all goodness in his life. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_22.htm The Sufi moral is this: Love another and do not depend upon his love; and: Do good to another and do not depend upon receiving good from him; serve another and do not look for service from him. All you do for another out of your love and kindness, you should think that you do, not to that person, but to God. And if the person returns love for love, goodness for goodness, service for service, so much the better. If he does not return it, then pity him for what he loses; for his gain is much less than his loss. Do not look for thanks or appreciation for all the good you do to others, nor use it as a means to stimulate your vanity. Do all that you consider good for the sake of goodness, not even for a return of that from God. ~~~ "Sangatha I, Saluk", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) ~~~ Love lies in service; only that which is done not for fame or name, not for the appreciation or thanks of those for whom it is done, is love's service. In this awareness, each moment is a true work of Wonder... We can shed our past... And I am reminded still, to enjoy the moment and Flow~ That our time here is very short when compared to the Everlasting. Finding inner peace can really make this place Heaven on Earth... Namaste Brother. _^_ ~~~~ (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik3.jpg) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jun 28, 2018 03:31 pm Today’s saki affirms my belief to rising above awareness of negative entrapment
The awakened heart says, "I must give, I must not demand." Thus it enters a gate that leads to a constant happiness. Bowl of Saki, June 28, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan An unhappy person, being himself unhappy, cannot make others happy. It is a wealthy person who can help the one who is hard up, not a poor person, however much desire of helping he may have. So it is with happiness, which is a great wealth; and a happy person can take away the unhappiness of another, for he has enough for himself and for others. Earthly pleasures are the shadows of happiness; because of their transitory character. True happiness is in love, which is the stream that springs from one's soul. He who will allow this stream to run continually in all conditions of life, in all situations, however difficult, will have a happiness which truly belongs to him, the source of which is not without, but within. If there is a constant outpouring of love one becomes a divine fountain, for from the depth of the fountain rises the stream and, on its return, it pours upon the fountain, bathing it continually. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_17.htm Why does a mystic attribute such great importance to harmony? Because to a mystic, his whole life is one continuous symphony, a playing of music, with each soul contributing his particular part to the symphony. A person's success therefore depends upon the idea he has of harmony. Very few people in the world pay attention to harmony. They do not know that without it, there is no chance of happiness. It is only the harmonious ones who can make others happy and partake of that happiness themselves; and apart from them, it is hard to find happiness in the world. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_8.htm The method of attainment is to endeavor always to make others happy and by experiencing happiness in the happiness of others. In the terms of the Sufi, it is Suluk. Any selfishness prevents us from appreciating another's happiness and therefore we shall be kept back, for the happiness of others is the gate to our own happiness. Real happiness is entering the gate. We must feel satisfaction in another's satisfaction ... If a person needs a certain thing and we can supply it, we should be happy, how ever small the thing may be. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/archives/constancy.htm ~~~ The awakened heart says, "I must give, I must not demand." Thus it enters a gate that leads to a constant happiness. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jul 04, 2018 05:05 am Man must first create peace in himself if he desires to see peace in the world; for lacking peace within, no effort of his can bring any result. Bowl of Saki, July 2, by Hazrat Inayat Khan <wisdom> from a spiritual friend and a great teacher inayat khan <blessings> ............. and what brings this peace? it is going within, focusing on the breath, dissolving these idea's of what who or why and opening ourselves up to the wonders of God, which surpass our limitations. Gods Love is so Great, no wonder we are constantly running back to him in our sincerer moments, which instills peace that raises the vibrations and shatters oppositions. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jul 27, 2018 03:37 pm todays message seems to touch on the name change here at the portal. :D
Belief and disbelief have divided mankind into so many sects, blinding its eyes to the vision of the oneness of all life. Bowl of Saki, July 27, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan For the Sufi there exists no one in this world, neither heathen nor pagan, who is to be despised, for he believes in that God who is not the God of one chosen sect but the God of the whole world. He does not believe in a God of one nation, but in the God of all nations. To him God is in all different houses where people worship Him. Even if they stand in the street and pray it makes no difference to him. The holy place is wherever He is worshipped. The Sufi leaves sectarianism to the sects. He has respect for all; he is not prejudiced against any and he does not despise any; he feels sympathy for all. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_33.htm The religion of the mystic is a steady progress towards unity. How does he make this progress? In two ways. In the first way, he sees himself in others, in the good, in the bad, in all; and thus, he expands the horizon of his vision. This study goes on throughout his lifetime; and as he progresses he comes closer to the oneness of all things. The other way of developing is to become conscious of one's own self in God and of God in one's self, which means deepening the consciousness of our innermost being. This process takes place in two directions: outwardly, by being one with all we see; and inwardly, by being in touch with that one Life which is everlasting, by dissolving into it and by being conscious of that one Spirit being THE existence, the only existence. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_1.htm 'There is One God, the Eternal, the Only Being; none exists save He.' The God of the Sufi is the God of every creed, and the God of all. Names make no difference to him. Allah, God, Gott, Dieu, Khuda, Brahma, or Bhagwan, all these names and more are the names of his God; and yet to him God is beyond the limitation of name. He sees his God in the sun, in the fire, in the idol which diverse sects worship; and he recognizes Him in all the forms of the universe, yet knowing Him to be beyond all form; God in all, and all in God, He being the Seen and the Unseen, the Only Being. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_I_1.htm ~~~ Belief and disbelief have divided mankind into so many sects, blinding its eyes to the vision of the oneness of all life. (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik28.jpg) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Sep 16, 2018 06:30 am https://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.php
To become cold from the coldness of the world is weakness, to become broken by the hardness of the world is feebleness, but to live in the world and yet to keep above it is like walking on the water. Bowl of Saki, September 15, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan The spiritual path is easiest if there is not something pulling one from behind; and that force is the life in the world, one's friends, surroundings, acquaintances, and one's foes. Remain, therefore, in the world as a traveler making a station on his way. Do all the good you can to serve and succor humanity, but escape attachment. By this in no way will you prove to be loveless. On the contrary, it is attachment which divides love, and love raised above attachment is like a rain from above nourishing all the plants upon the earth. (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik12.jpg) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Sep 16, 2018 10:02 pm Thanks for your contributions here Eric; I always read them and think of you daily!
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Oct 09, 2018 09:12 am The whole purpose of life is to make God a reality.
Bowl of Saki, October 9, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan As to the religion and the moral of the mystic, the mystic has one moral and that is love. And he has one aim in his religion and that is to make a God a reality. Therefore, his God becomes a greater God than the God of millions of people who only imagine that there is a God somewhere. To him God is a reality. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XI/XI_III_2.htm (https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi2.wp.com%2Fwww.sampleloveletter.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F02%2F9.jpg&f=1) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Nov 06, 2018 03:49 pm Our soul is blessed with the impression of the glory of God whenever we praise Him.
Bowl of Saki, November 6, by Hazrat Inayat Khan by Swami Vivekananda: You are the omniscient, omnipresent being of the universe. But of such beings can there be many? Can there be a hundred thousand millions of omnipresent beings? Certainly not. Then, what becomes of us all? You are only one; there is only one such Self, and that One Self is you. Standing behind this little nature is what we call the Soul. There is only One Being, One Existence, the ever-blessed, the omnipresent, the omniscient, the birthless, deathless. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Dec 05, 2018 06:08 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/12_05_18.jpg)
Far from it but I think this is the destination for many of us on the spiritual path. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Dec 18, 2018 06:17 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/12_18_18.jpg)
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Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jan 21, 2019 03:50 am To treat every human being as a shrine of God is to fulfill all religion.
Bowl of Saki, January 20, by Hazrat Inayat Khan This is something I believe in but find difficulty in being able to live up to every day. Maybe it's because for most, those who've raised us do not always consider the indwelling spirit in them to be God. Maybe it's because the idea's of how this expression "should be" have been romanticized and brought about expectations and suffering. Then there's the habits we've knowingly, unknowingly embraced or demonstrated over the course of our lives that step on beauty. It's important we continue to try, even if our efforts are misinterpreted by others or that we do fall short- continue to aim high and continue to meditate. Knowing we are born in limitation, persistence towards the ideal is the best we can hope for, returning more and more to Stillness... I am also going to quote Lahiri Mahasaya here... “Always remember that you belong to no one, and no one belongs to you. Reflect that some day you will suddenly have to leave everything in this world so make the acquaintanceship of God now. Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception. Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles. Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. Cease being a prisoner of the body; using the secret key of Kriya, learn to escape into Spirit.” Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Feb 10, 2019 05:18 am Love brought man from the world of unity to that of variety, and the same force can take him back again to the world of unity from the world of variety.
Bowl of Saki, February 9, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Mar 17, 2019 07:36 am Quote At every step of evolution, man's realization of God changes. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_II_15.htmBowl of Saki, March 16, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan There is a time when toys are treasures. But the child who cries for a toy comes to an age when he gives it away. And at every step in a man's evolution the values of power and position and wealth change in his eyes. And so as he evolves there arises in him a spirit of renunciation which may be called the Spirit of God. Gradually he recognizes the real value of those fair and lovely qualities of the spirit that change not. (https://wahiduddin.net/hik/images/hik-5-450w.jpg) <3 <3 <3 Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 25, 2019 11:28 am But what I have noticed is when there is sadness around me...I often have sad dreams. The environment affects us in a subtle manner that reacts on a subconscious level. In the spirit of renunciation I will often tell a woman who is quite attractive to me of my intense interest in Amma. Sending someone a link can offer insight into another person. They may just ask you not to respond to them. Or on the contrary they May recognize The significance of the information. Even curiosity shows some receptivity.
https://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.php To become cold from the coldness of the world is weakness, to become broken by the hardness of the world is feebleness, but to live in the world and yet to keep above it is like walking on the water. Bowl of Saki, September 15, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan The spiritual path is easiest if there is not something pulling one from behind; and that force is the life in the world, one's friends, surroundings, acquaintances, and one's foes. Remain, therefore, in the world as a traveler making a station on his way. Do all the good you can to serve and succor humanity, but escape attachment. By this in no way will you prove to be loveless. On the contrary, it is attachment which divides love, and love raised above attachment is like a rain from above nourishing all the plants upon the earth. (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik12.jpg) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Apr 01, 2019 05:51 pm Happy 1st of April :) This is a beautiful thing to wake up to... Inayat Khan says the two important things in life are praise of God and the pursuit of God. That the secret of happiness comes from continued practice in giving thanks to all the blessings we have in our life- admiring every glimpse of beauty and kindness that comes before us. If we do this we can send ourselves into a bliss that may be called the kingdom of God.
(https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/04_01_19.jpg) Quote Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: "Why does God need praise from me? Who am I that I should offer Him praise?" True, we can never praise Him enough; never can our praise be sufficient, but our souls are blessed with the impression of the Glory of God whenever we praise Him. The soul could praise God every moment and yet wanting to praise Him yet more, it is constantly hungering and thirsting to find the Beauty and Perfection of God. By the praise of God the soul is filled with bliss; even to utter the name of God is a blessing that can fill the soul with light, joy and happiness as nothing else can do. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/archives/prayer.htm There is a necessity for praise in prayer, praise of the beauty of God, for man must learn to recognize and praise the beauty of God as manifested in all His creation. In this way he impresses beauty on his soul, and he is able to manifest it in himself, and he becomes the friend of all and is without prejudice. For this reason the Sufi cultivates his heart. The emblem of the Sufi is a heart between two wings, meaning that when the heart is cultivated man can soar up into the heights of heaven. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_34.htm The only secret of attaining happiness is to learn how to appreciate our privileges in life. If we cultivate that sense of appreciation we shall be thankful, we shall be contented and every moment we shall offer our thanks to God, for His gifts are many and enormous. When we do not see them it is because our wants cover our eyes from seeing all with which we are blessed by Providence. No meditation, no study, nothing can help in that direction, except one thing, and that is to keep our eyes open to appreciate every little privilege in life, to admire every glimpse of beauty that comes before us, being thankful for every little love, kindness or affection shown to us by young or old, rich or poor, wise or foolish. In this way, continually developing the faculty of appreciating life and devoting it to thanksgiving, we arrive at a bliss which no words can explain, a bliss which is beyond imagination: the bliss that we find ourselves having already entered the kingdom of God. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_39.htm The two important things in life are the praise of God and the pursuit of God. The praise of God is important, and it gives bliss in life, but it is not the real attainment. The all-important work in life is the attainment of God. God cannot be explained. Any attempt to do this always ends in failure. The knowledge of Him can only be attained in the silence and in solitude, and how to do this cannot be explained better than in the words of the Urdu poet Zahir, 'He who attaineth best the peace of God, his very self must lose.' from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_38.htm ~~~ When one praises the beauty of God, one's soul is filled with bliss. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on May 02, 2019 06:55 pm (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-i8r_R_L2d_Q/UQfGdZufaVI/AAAAAAAAfNA/4jRlSS40EkY/s1600/mountains_stones_night_moon_4722_1280x1024.jpg)
The truth need not be veiled, for it veils itself from the eyes of the ignorant. Bowl of Saki, May 2, by Hazrat Inayat Khan "Truth is vaster than any frame we can make to put it in. Besides, no matter what frame we make for truth to be presented in, an unawakened soul will never see it, but will only see the frame." from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XII/XII_III_1.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on May 14, 2019 07:03 am Our limited self is a wall separating us from the Self of God.
Bowl of Saki, May 13, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: In order to reach spiritual perfection the first thing is to destroy this false self. First this delusion must be destroyed. And this is done by the ways taught by the great teachers, ways of concentration and meditation, by the power of which one forgets oneself and removes one's consciousness from oneself, in other words rises from one's limited being. In this way a person effaces himself from his own consciousness, and places God in his consciousness instead of his limited self. And it is in this way that he arrives at that perfection which every soul is seeking. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_26.htm Real justice cannot be perceived until the veil of selfishness has been removed from his eyes. The least spark of selfishness will prevent man from being just; he will continue to have a partial interest, because he will be looking after his own interest. Whatever furthers his own interests, he will call his right and his justice. The prophets and the holy ones have all recognized the justice of God as the only real justice. What is the nature of the justice of God? It cannot be read in scripture; it cannot be learned from a book; it can only be learned from the Self within after selfishness has been removed. Our limited self is like a wall separating us from the Self of God. God is as far away from us as that wall is thick. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_23.htm ~~~ Our limited self is a wall separating us from the self of God. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jun 07, 2019 07:45 am We blame others for our sorrows and misfortunes, not perceiving that we ourselves are the creators of our world.
Bowl of Saki, June 6, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Externally we are a single being, but internally we are a world. As vast as is the world around us, so vast is the world within. Asif says, 'The limitation of the sky and land cannot be compared with man's heart. If man's heart be wide, there is nothing wider than this.' All can be accommodated in it; heaven earth, sun, moon, all are reflected in it. It becomes itself the whole. This world becomes as one chooses to make it. If man only knew that! But since he does not know that, the world is not heaven, but has become its opposite. We blame others for our sorrows and misfortunes, not perceiving that we ourselves are the creators of our world; that our world has an influence upon our life within as well as upon our life without. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_17.htm One learns to understand that there is a world in one's self, that in one's mind there is a source of happiness and unhappiness, the source of health and illness, the source of light and darkness, and that it can be awakened, either mechanically or at will, if only one knew how to do it. Then one does not blame his ill fortune nor complain of his fellow man. He becomes more tolerant, more joyful, and more loving toward his neighbor, because he knows the cause of every thought and action, and he sees it all as the effect of a certain cause. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_5.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jun 07, 2019 07:53 am But what I have noticed is when there is sadness around me...I often have sad dreams. The environment affects us in a subtle manner that reacts on a subconscious level. In the spirit of renunciation I will often tell a woman who is quite attractive to me of my intense interest in Amma. Sending someone a link can offer insight into another person. They may just ask you not to respond to them. Or on the contrary they May recognize The significance of the information. Even curiosity shows some receptivity. Steve is this sadness the result of someone else crushing your desire or subconscious expectations?Sometimes I will have sad and even horrific dreams which is why I find counting our blessings such a valuable practice. Onward and upward my friend. <3 Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jun 07, 2019 01:36 pm We blame others for our sorrows and misfortunes, not perceiving that we ourselves are the creators of our world. Bowl of Saki, June 6, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Externally we are a single being, but internally we are a world. As vast as is the world around us, so vast is the world within. Asif says, 'The limitation of the sky and land cannot be compared with man's heart. If man's heart be wide, there is nothing wider than this.' All can be accommodated in it; heaven earth, sun, moon, all are reflected in it. It becomes itself the whole. This world becomes as one chooses to make it. If man only knew that! But since he does not know that, the world is not heaven, but has become its opposite. We blame others for our sorrows and misfortunes, not perceiving that we ourselves are the creators of our world; that our world has an influence upon our life within as well as upon our life without. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_17.htm One learns to understand that there is a world in one's self, that in one's mind there is a source of happiness and unhappiness, the source of health and illness, the source of light and darkness, and that it can be awakened, either mechanically or at will, if only one knew how to do it. Then one does not blame his ill fortune nor complain of his fellow man. He becomes more tolerant, more joyful, and more loving toward his neighbor, because he knows the cause of every thought and action, and he sees it all as the effect of a certain cause. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_5.htm I think that it is important to put the question you asked me in perspective Eric. You took my quote from another thread that has relevancy to you to this thread. Since you asked a question in your last entry I will respond to why I think you asked that question by giving the topic that it appears to relate about. I agree with everything thing that Inayat Khan has said here; Our reality that we experience is created by ourselves. We can also be cognizant of elements of that reality unfolding before us in our dreams and our consciousness. To give an example a Master like Inayat Khan or Amma can foresee certain conditions or events or know the consciousness of another being that comes to them. That state of being may not be anything they created but rather they know what they are witnessing. So in this sense, it is a witness state of consciousness and, it is not something that they are attached to which they identify with and have sadness as a result of someone else “crushing their desire or subconscious expectations.” I would not go so far as to say in all my experiences I am a witness to what I experience and have no personal identification with those experiences but it is something that we aspire towards. Thoughtful question you posed here and a good way to react to our experiences; “I find counting our blessings such a valuable practice.” Isn’t it important to be responsive and not reactionary in all our encounters in life? Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jun 28, 2019 08:11 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/06_28_19.jpg)
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jun 30, 2019 05:31 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/06_30_19.jpg)
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jul 02, 2019 02:06 am Happy July 1st Divine Friends.
(https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/07_01_19.jpg) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jul 02, 2019 01:54 pm Happy July 1st Divine Friends. (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/07_01_19.jpg) I wonder if this is as much of a concern when we are not in a position to be rewarded in using it? Hope you follow what I am saying dear friend. Some of us live a humble life. We are humbled by circumstances. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jul 02, 2019 11:32 pm Hi Steve,
I don't understand what you're talking about. Today's message reflects the teachings of the other masters discussed here... The battle-cry of Gurunath, "Self peace for world peace" Quote Man must first create peace in himself if he desires to see peace in the world; for lacking peace within, no effort of his can bring any result. https://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.phpBowl of Saki, July 2, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jul 03, 2019 11:00 am Peace in the world is quite a different idea than pride in knowledge. I think I have met many college professors who had pride in knowledge. There was really no other way of looking at a subject for them except there own view. You can see that in most people in many subjects. But when someone is given a title they often seem to get more dogmatic then people who have more humble lives. I’m just saying that many simple people have such a humble life that they are not in a position to have pride of knowledge.
Its often the more someone has financially and in titles quite often the more they think they are right. Perhaps you see it differently. You have people who will ignore all the evidence provided and make up their own philosophy to justify their pride and satisfaction in what they think they know in their given field; for instance Trump trying to run our country like a business that has a singular vision of Americans first without seeing the larger view of his destroying the earth. Hi Steve, I don't understand what you're talking about. Today's message reflects the teachings of the other masters discussed here... The battle-cry of Gurunath, "Self peace for world peace" Quote Man must first create peace in himself if he desires to see peace in the world; for lacking peace within, no effort of his can bring any result. https://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.phpBowl of Saki, July 2, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jul 17, 2019 04:37 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/07_17_19.jpg)
Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: We frequently say, 'I dislike him,' 'I wish to avoid her,' but if we examine this carefully, we find it is the same element in all that we dislike, the ego. And when we turn to ourselves to see if we have it in us, we find it is there too. We should forget it, therefore, in other people, and first turn our attention to crushing it within ourselves. We should determine to have our house clean even if other people neglect theirs. We should be careful to take away from ourselves any thorns that prick us in the personality of others. There is a verse in the Quran, which says, 'Arise in the midst of the night, and commune with thy Lord... Bear patiently what others say.' This is not only a command to rise in the night and pray, but it also means that by rising in the night we crush the ego, for the ego demands its rest and comfort, and when denied, is crushed. The mystics fast for the same reason. The Sufis base the whole of their teaching on the crushing of the ego which they term Nafs-kushi, for therein lies all magnetism and power. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_27.htm For every soul there are four stages to pass through in order to come to the culmination of the ego, which means to reach the stage of the rose. The first stage is that a person is rough, thoughtless and inconsiderate. He is interested in what he wants and in what he likes; as such he is naturally blind to the needs and wants of others. In the second stage a man is decent and good as long as his interests are concerned. As long as he can get his wish fulfilled he is pleasant and kind and good and harmonious; but if he cannot get his wish and cannot have his way, then he becomes rough and crude and changes completely. And there is a third stage, when someone is more concerned with another person's wish and desire, and less with himself; when his whole heart is seeking for what he can do for another. In his thought the other person comes first and he comes afterwards. That is the beginning of turning into the rose. It is only a rosebud, but then in the fourth stage this rosebud blooms in the person who entirely forgets himself in doing kind deeds for others. In Sufi terms the crushing of the ego is called Nafs Kushi. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_40.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jul 21, 2019 07:13 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/07_21_19.jpg)
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jul 21, 2019 07:13 pm Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan:
There are two ways in which we may attain control over our activity. The first is confidence in the power of our own will; to know that if we have failed today, tomorrow we will not do so. The second is to have our eyes wide open, and to watch keenly our activity in all aspects of life. It is in the dark that we fall, but in the light we can see where we are going. So it is in life: we should have our eyes wide open to see where we walk. We should study life, and seek to know why we say a thing, and why we act as we do. We have failed perhaps hitherto because we have not been wide awake. We have fallen, and felt sorry, and have forgotten all about it, and perhaps may have fallen again. This is because we have not studied life. A study of life is the greatest of all religions, and there is no greater and more interesting study. Those who have mastered all grades of activity, they above all experience life in all its aspects. They are like swimmers in the sea who float on the water of life and do not sink. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_36.htm If we only knew how much the study of life can tell us! One could go into the British Museum and read every book in the building, and yet not obtain satisfaction. It is not study, it is not research, it is not inquiry which gives this knowledge; it is actually going through the experiences of life, witnessing life in its different aspects and in its different phases or spheres; that is what reveals the ideal of life. ... Look not on life as a person would watch a play on the stage. Rather look upon it as a student who is learning at college. It is not a passing show; it is not a place of amusement in which to fool our life away. It is a place for study, in which every sorrow, every heartbreak brings a precious lesson. It is a place in which to learn by one's own suffering, by the study of the suffering of others; to learn from the people who have been kind to us as well as from the people who have been unkind. It is a place in which all experiences, be they disappointments, struggles, and pains, or joys, pleasures, and comforts, contribute to the understanding of what life is, and the realization what it is. Then do we awake to the religion of nature, which is the only religion. And the more we understand it, the greater our life becomes, and the more of a blessing will our life be for others. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_2.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jul 25, 2019 05:15 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik82.jpg)
Our spirit is the real part of us, the body but its garment. A man would not find peace at the tailor's because his coat comes from there; neither can the spirit obtain true happiness from the earth just because his body belongs to earth. Bowl of Saki, July 25, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jul 26, 2019 01:17 am (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik82.jpg) Our spirit is the real part of us, the body but its garment. A man would not find peace at the tailor's because his coat comes from there; neither can the spirit obtain true happiness from the earth just because his body belongs to earth. Bowl of Saki, July 25, by Hazrat Inayat Khan It’s in sync with my thoughts today; sometimes I get this feeling these bodies that are walking around forever busy are just places are spirits are trapped in while we pay the sentence for our desires. I believe that it is somewhat different in the astral and causal realms where we do not have the same limitations as here. We are actually working out a type of sentence we have caused to our spirits being assigned to come here. But we do have quite a gift in having this experience here in the physical realm to evolve upward and out. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jul 26, 2019 07:18 am Thanks Steve, I'm happy to see Spirit is talking to you. To seek God is a beautiful and rewarding journey. I am thankful for the times you've helped keep my course steady homeward and hope to offer the same to you.
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Aug 09, 2019 09:31 pm ~~~ One word can be more precious than all the treasures of the earth ~~~ The word has a magic in it, it can turn friends into your enemies, and it can make your enemies your friends. The mystery of all success in every direction of life is in the word. The word has power to turn the mind of the listener warm or cold. The word can produce the effect of earth, water, fire, air, or ether. The word can produce depression or joy. The one who knows the chemistry of the word does not need drugs or herbs. He has medicine for every disease in the world, not only for bodily disease, but also for the disorders of the mind, which still remain unexplored by science. By a constant study of life, by special thought given to one's word, by careful watching of the effects of one's speech upon others, one arrives at a state of realization where one can heal hearts. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_6.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Aug 11, 2019 10:17 am Quote When God is with you everything is with you; when God is in you everything is in you. Inspiration, knowledge, light, all are then within you. But if you find joy in confusion, if you confuse yourself and keep yourself in darkness, you may do so. However, you have inherited from the heavenly Father His inspiration, His Light, His power. You have inherited might from the Almighty God; you have inherited light from the Light of the universe. Therefore you are blessed with all these things, if you can only open your eyes and see the blessing. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XII/XII_I_11.htm(http://dreamicus.com/data/light/light-02.jpg) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Aug 11, 2019 02:55 pm Terrific and timely entry. Thanks Eric.
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Aug 13, 2019 06:46 pm The lover of nature is the true worshipper of God.
Bowl of Saki, August 13, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Quote Anyone who has some knowledge of mysticism and of the lives of the mystics knows that what always attracts the mystic most is nature. Nature is his bread and wine. Nature is his soul's nourishment. Nature inspires him, uplifts him and gives him the solitude for which his soul continually longs. Every soul born with a mystical tendency is constantly drawn towards nature; in nature that soul finds its life's demand, as it is said in the Vadan, 'Art is dear to my heart, but nature is near to my soul'. ... Nature does not teach the glory of God; it need not teach this as nature itself is the glory of God. People wish to study astrology and other subjects in order to understand better, but if we study astrology then we are sure to arrive at an interpretation which is given by a man, whereas what we should read from nature is what nature gives us and not what any book teaches us. There comes a time with the maturity of the soul when every thing and every being begins to reveal its nature to us. We do not need to read their lives. We do not need to read their theories. We know then that this wide nature in its four aspects is ever-revealing and that one can always communicate with it, but that in spite of this it is not the privilege of every soul to read it. Many souls remain blind with open eyes. They are in heaven, but not allowed to look at heaven; they are in paradise, but not allowed to enjoy the beauties of paradise. It is just like a person sleeping on a pile of gems and jewels. From the moment man's eyes open and he begins to read the book of nature he begins to live; and he continues to live forever. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XI/XI_III_7.htm So it is with our practices, to seek God and to find him in All things. Quote A true worshipper of God sees His presence in all forms, and thus in respecting others he respects God. It may even develop to such an extent that the true worshipper of God, the Omnipresent, walks gently on the earth, bowing in his heart even to every tree and plant, and it is then that the worshipper forms a communion with the Divine Beloved at all times, when he is awake and when he is asleep. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_15.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Sep 05, 2019 05:39 am My murshid, Abu Hashim Madani, once said that there is only one virtue and only one sin for a soul on this path: virtue when he is conscious of God and sin when he is not. No explanation can describe the truth of this except the experience of the contemplative, to whom, when he is conscious of God, it is as if a window is open, which is facing heaven, and when he is conscious of the self, the experience is the opposite. For all the tragedy of life is caused by consciousness of the self. All pain and depression are caused by this, and anything that can take away the thought of the self helps to a certain extent to relieve man from pain; but God-consciousness gives perfect relief.
from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_10.htm Pleasure blocks, but pain clears the way of inspiration. Bowl of Saki, September 4, by Hazrat Inayat Khan (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik23.jpg) Tagore says: 'When the string of the violin was being tuned it felt the pain of being stretched, but once it was tuned then it knew why it was stretched'. So it is with the human soul. While the soul goes through pain, torture and trouble it thinks that it would have been much better if it had gone through life without it. But once it reaches the culmination of it then, when it looks back, it begins to realize why all this was meant: it was only meant to tune the soul to a certain pitch. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_16.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Sep 05, 2019 06:11 am Often those around us may not understand the plight of others and walk in other people's shoes. It is much more easier to misunderstand their behaviors if we are not real sensitive to Gods plan and the people he has put in our lives and their purpose for us.
Eric I am very thankful you have included this observation by Tagore; Tagore says: 'When the string of the violin was being tuned it felt the pain of being stretched, but once it was tuned then it knew why it was stretched'. So it is with the human soul. While the soul goes through pain, torture and trouble it thinks that it would have been much better if it had gone through life without it. But once it reaches the culmination of it then, when it looks back, it begins to realize why all this was meant: it was only meant to tune the soul to a certain pitch. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Sep 07, 2019 10:10 pm One virtue is more powerful than a thousand vices.
Bowl of Saki, September 7, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Oct 26, 2019 06:46 am ~~~ True self-denial is losing one's self in God. https://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_new.php Quote Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Man, absorbed from morning till evening in his occupations which engage his every attention to the things of the earth and of self interest, remains intoxicated. Seldom there are moments in his life, brought about by pain or suffering, when he experiences a state of mind which can be called soberness. Hindus call this state of mind sat, which is a state of tranquility. Man then begins to become conscious of some part of his being which he finds to have almost covered his eyes. When we look at life from this point of view we find that an individual who claims to be a living being is not necessarily living a full life. It is only a realization of inner life which at every moment unveils the soul, and brings before man another aspect of life in which he finds fullness, a greater satisfaction, and a rest which gives true peace. Can he speak about this to his fellow men? And if he does, what can he say? Can he say, 'I am purer,' or 'more exalted than you' or 'I understand life better than you?' As life unfolds itself to man the first lesson it teaches is humility; the first thing that comes to man's vision is his own limitedness. The vaster God appears to him, the smaller he finds himself. This goes on and on until the moment comes when he loses himself in the vision of God. In terms of the Sufis this is called fana, and it is this process that was taught by Christ under the name of self-denial. Often man interprets this teaching wrongly and considers renunciation as self-denial. He thinks that the teaching is to renounce all that is in the world. But although that is a way and an important step which leads to true self-denial, the self-denial meant is the losing oneself in God. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_7.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Nov 15, 2019 08:08 pm Commentary by Hazrat Inayat Khan
Quote What a great thing is understanding! It is priceless. No man can give greater pleasure to his fellow man than by understanding him. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_1.htm Quote If there is no understanding between two persons, words are of no use. They may talk and talk, and discuss and discuss, and it will only go from bad to worse, for argument will never end. As it is said in the Vadan, 'Why? Is an animal with a thousand tails. At every bite you give it, it drops one of its curved tails and raises another.' Can argument bring about understanding? Never. Argument only increases argument, and so one can go on till two persons turn their back upon one another. Understanding is a gift of God, understanding is a soul's unfoldment, and understanding is the greatest fortune one can have in life. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_38.htm ~~~ Wisdom is not in words, it is in understanding. For your contemplation, ... A life without such understanding is like a dark room which contains everything you wish -- it is all there, but there is no light. ~~~ "Gathekas for Candidates 16, Sufi Mysticism ", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) Title: The Master IS, All Ways Present Post by: guest88 on Nov 16, 2019 05:50 pm Quote But those who wait, may wait. It is their destiny to wait, and one cannot help them. They waited while Jesus Christ came and went, and they still wait and will wait for ever. And yet he has always come; to the individual, to the multitude, to the nation, to the race. He came, and spoke to the whole world; but did he come with drums and trumpets? No, he came in the humblest guise, in the most unassuming manner; as our brother, our servant, our friend, our equal. Man, because of his devotion, has called him Lord; but he said, 'Call me not good. I am like unto you.' It is not his absence that keeps man in ignorance; it is man's own closed eyes. The Master has always been present, but man knew him not. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_29.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Nov 19, 2019 05:02 am The lover of nature is the true worshipper of God. Bowl of Saki, August 13, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Quote Anyone who has some knowledge of mysticism and of the lives of the mystics knows that what always attracts the mystic most is nature. Nature is his bread and wine. Nature is his soul's nourishment. Nature inspires him, uplifts him and gives him the solitude for which his soul continually longs. Every soul born with a mystical tendency is constantly drawn towards nature; in nature that soul finds its life's demand, as it is said in the Vadan, 'Art is dear to my heart, but nature is near to my soul'. ... Nature does not teach the glory of God; it need not teach this as nature itself is the glory of God. People wish to study astrology and other subjects in order to understand better, but if we study astrology then we are sure to arrive at an interpretation which is given by a man, whereas what we should read from nature is what nature gives us and not what any book teaches us. There comes a time with the maturity of the soul when every thing and every being begins to reveal its nature to us. We do not need to read their lives. We do not need to read their theories. We know then that this wide nature in its four aspects is ever-revealing and that one can always communicate with it, but that in spite of this it is not the privilege of every soul to read it. Many souls remain blind with open eyes. They are in heaven, but not allowed to look at heaven; they are in paradise, but not allowed to enjoy the beauties of paradise. It is just like a person sleeping on a pile of gems and jewels. From the moment man's eyes open and he begins to read the book of nature he begins to live; and he continues to live forever. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XI/XI_III_7.htm So it is with our practices, to seek God and to find him in All things. Quote A true worshipper of God sees His presence in all forms, and thus in respecting others he respects God. It may even develop to such an extent that the true worshipper of God, the Omnipresent, walks gently on the earth, bowing in his heart even to every tree and plant, and it is then that the worshipper forms a communion with the Divine Beloved at all times, when he is awake and when he is asleep. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_15.htm I had mixed feelings about this quote as you may suspect Eric; while I completely agree to your quotes about nature I also see that astrology and the stars are also part of nature and therefore also the glory of God. And, just as we read someone else’s interpretation of Indian Totems to understand the significance of nature in human affairs we also may read the information available of the stars in human affairs. This by no means should hinder our own observation, and appreciation of what we witness. Nor should my reading the above quotes somehow diminish my own appreciation of nature but only add to it thru the eyes of someone else. I say let us learn from our differences as we share are similarities. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Nov 21, 2019 08:14 pm The wave is the sea itself yet, when it rises in the form of a wave, it is the wave and when you look at the whole of it, it is the sea.
Bowl of Saki, November 21, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: There is an Arabic saying, 'If you wish to know God, you must know yourself.' How little man knows while he is in the intoxication of individualism! ... We are connected with one another. Our lives are tied together, and there is a link in which we can see one current running through all. There are many globes and lamps, and yet one current is running through all. The mystic seeks to realize this constantly and to impress it on his mind in whatever he may see. What, for him, are the waves of the sea? Are they not the sea itself? ... Therein lies the whole of religion. The mystic's prayer is to that beauty, and his work is to forget the self, to lose himself like a bubble in the water. The wave realizes, 'I am the sea', and by falling into the sea prostrates itself before its God. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_6.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Nov 27, 2019 07:07 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/11_27_19.jpg)
Commentary by Hazrat Inayat Khan: There are three stages of morals. The first stage is the moral of reciprocity. This moral is natural to the one who sees the difference between himself and another, who recognizes every man as such and such. The second stage is the law of beneficence, where man, recognizing himself as an entity separate from others and recognizing others as distinct entities themselves, yet sees a cord of connection running through himself and all, and finds himself as a dome in which rises an echo of good and evil; and in order to have a good echo he gives good for good and good for evil. But the third stage is the moral of renunciation, where the difference of 'mine' and 'thine' and the distinction of 'I' and 'you' fade away in the realization of the one Life that is within and without, beneath and beyond; and that is the meaning of the verse in the Bible, 'In Him we live, and move, and have our being.' from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_III_5.htm When we can touch God in everyone then God tells us about Himself, because He sees that we have no hate, no prejudice. We have seen our Beloved, and our Beloved tells us all. Still, realization is difficult, for it involves discerning the difference between you and me. What is this difference? It is a great question, a great problem. Our 'I' and 'you' are just like a compass with which we draw circles on paper. The one point of the compass is the 'I', the other point is the 'you', and where they join there is no 'I-you.' The 'I' and 'you' only remain as long as we see ourselves; but when we rise above them or beyond them, the thought brings us nearer and nearer to God in that consciousness in which we all unite. ... Perfection and annihilation is that stage where there is no longer 'I' and no longer 'you', where there is what there is. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XII/XII_I_12.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Dec 05, 2019 05:28 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/12_05_19.jpg)
She is like a butterfly... I'm trying to make my abode a welcome place for the many butterfly's we will encounter in this life.... This teaching is the goal.... Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: There are two stages of workers. The first stage is that of the one who works for himself; the higher stage of working is to work for others. The one who rises above the stage of working for himself comes to the stage of working for others, bringing in their lives the blessing which is the need of their lives. To what does the love of God lead? It leads to that peace and stillness which can be seen in the life of the tree which flowers and bears fruit for others and expects no return. Peace will not come to the lover's heart so long as he will not become love itself. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_5.htm A person is apt to think, 'Why should I perform actions that bring me no return? Why should I be kind, where no kindness is shown to me, where there is even no appreciation?' In this way he commercializes his kindness: he gives in order to receive. ... When one loves one must love for the sake of love, not for a return. When one serves one must serve for the sake of service, not for acknowledgement. In everything a person does, if he does not think of reciprocity or appreciation in any manner or form, he may perhaps seem a loser in the beginning, but in the end that person will be the gainer, for he has lived in the world and yet held himself above the world; it cannot touch him. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_28.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Dec 17, 2019 07:10 pm Our greatest privilege is to become a suitable instrument of God.
Bowl of Saki, December 17, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Quote Commentary by Hazrat Inayat Khan On coming to earth, man, who is the instrument of God, loses connection with that divine power whose instrument he is, thus keeping not only himself but even God from helping His will to be done. When man, who is born to be the instrument of God, does not perform his mission properly he naturally feels dissatisfied. It does not mean that he does not accomplish what he desires, but it is the reason why he is unhappy. ... Spiritual knowledge does not lie in learning something, but in discovering something; in breaking the fetters of the false consciousness and in allowing the soul to unfold itself with light and power. What does the word 'spiritual' really mean? Spiritual means spirit-conscious. When a person is conscious of his body, he cannot be spiritual. It is like a king who does not know his kingship. ... If man does not realize the kingdom of God within himself nor realize his spirit to be a king, he does not accomplish the purpose of life. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_28.htm Man's greatest privilege is to become a suitable instrument of God, and until he knows this he has not realized his true purpose in life. The whole tragedy in the life of man is his ignorance of this fact. From the moment a man realizes this he lives the real life, the life of harmony between God and man. When Jesus Christ said, 'Seek ye first the kingdom of God,' this teaching was an answer to the cry of humanity: some crying, 'I have no wealth,' others crying, 'I have no rest,' others crying, 'My situation in life is difficult,' My friends are troubling me,' or, 'I want a position, wealth.' The answer to them all is, 'Seek ye first the kingdom of God, and all these things shall be added unto you.' from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_40.htm ~~~ Man's greatest privilege is to become a suitable instrument of God. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Dec 17, 2019 08:49 pm Much to remember. But we need reminding everyday. The mind strays to all kinds of diversions. But a wakeful friend can pass the torch!
Commentary by Hazrat Inayat Khan Quote What a great thing is understanding! It is priceless. No man can give greater pleasure to his fellow man than by understanding him. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_1.htm Quote If there is no understanding between two persons, words are of no use. They may talk and talk, and discuss and discuss, and it will only go from bad to worse, for argument will never end. As it is said in the Vadan, 'Why? Is an animal with a thousand tails. At every bite you give it, it drops one of its curved tails and raises another.' Can argument bring about understanding? Never. Argument only increases argument, and so one can go on till two persons turn their back upon one another. Understanding is a gift of God, understanding is a soul's unfoldment, and understanding is the greatest fortune one can have in life. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_38.htm ~~~ Wisdom is not in words, it is in understanding. For your contemplation, ... A life without such understanding is like a dark room which contains everything you wish -- it is all there, but there is no light. ~~~ "Gathekas for Candidates 16, Sufi Mysticism ", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) Yea I get it but how to get that understanding!!! Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Dec 27, 2019 02:36 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/12_27_19.jpg)
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jan 20, 2020 01:37 am A king is ever a king, be he crowned with a jeweled crown or clad in beggar's garb.
Bowl of Saki, January 19, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jan 20, 2020 03:07 pm A king is ever a king, be he crowned with a jeweled crown or clad in beggar's garb. Bowl of Saki, January 19, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Curiously it is rare to find one in jeweled crown because like Trump they become ego infested by power. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jan 23, 2020 02:56 am Failure comes when will surrenders to reason.
Bowl of Saki, January 22, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jan 23, 2020 03:58 pm Failure comes when will surrenders to reason. Bowl of Saki, January 22, by Hazrat Inayat Khan 👍 thumbs up on that one! Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Feb 01, 2020 05:01 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/02_01_20.jpg)
There is one moral; the love that springs forth from self-denial and blooms in deeds of beneficence. Love must be absolutely free from selfishness, otherwise it does not produce proper illumination. If the fire has no flame it cannot give light, and smoke comes out of it, which is troublesome. Such is selfish love. Whether it be for man or for God it is fruitless, for though it appears to be love for another or love for God, it is in fact love for the self. Ideas that come to the mind of a lover such as, 'If you will love me I will love you, but if you do not love me I will not love you either,' or 'I love you as much as you love me,' and all such declarations are false pretensions of love. 'I have broken my bowl of desire against the rock of the beloved's will. What may be done when my heart is won by the obstinate beloved, who does her own will and casts aside the desire of the lover?' There are five chief sins against love, which turn nectar into poison. The first is when the lover deprives the beloved of freedom and happiness against her desire, because of his love. The next is when the lover gives way to a spirit of rivalry and jealousy or bitterness in love. Thirdly, if the lover doubts, distrusts, and suspects the one whom he loves. Fourthly, if he shrinks from enduring all the sorrows, pains, troubles, difficulties, and sufferings that come in the path of love. And finally, when the lover pursues his own will instead of complete resignation to the beloved's wish. These are the natural failings of a loving heart, as maladies are natural to the physical body. As lack of health makes life miserable, so lack of love makes the heart wretched. Only the lover who avoids these faults benefits by love, and arrives safely at his destination. Love lies in service. Only that which is done, not for fame or name, nor for the appreciation or thanks of those for whom it is done, is love's service. He who loves because he cannot help it is the slave of love, but he who loves because it is his only joy is the king of love. He who, for the sake of love, loves someone who falls short of his ideal is the ruler of love. And he who can seal his heart full of love in spite of all attraction on the part of the beloved is the conqueror of love. Those who have avoided love in life from fear of its pain have lost more than the lover, who by losing himself gains all. The loveless first lose all, until at last their self is also snatched away from their hands. The warmth of the lover's atmosphere, the piercing effect of his voice, the appeal of his words, all come from the pain of his heart. The heart is not living until it has experienced pain. Man has not lived if he has lived and worked with his body and mind without heart. The soul is all light, but all darkness is caused by the death of the heart. Pain makes it alive. The same heart that was once full of bitterness, when purified by love becomes the source of all goodness. All deeds of kindness spring from it. Joy in the real sense of the word is known to the lover alone. The loveless know it by name, not in reality. It is like the difference between a rock and man. Man, with all life's struggles and difficulties, would rather live as a man than become a rock, which no struggle or difficulty can ever touch. For even with struggles and difficulties the joy of living is immense. With all the pains and sorrows that the lover has to meet within love, his joy in love is unimaginable, for love is life, and its lack is death. 'Angels would give up their free dwelling in the heavens if they knew the joy when love springs up in youth.' Love creates love in man and even more with God. It is the nature of love. If you love God, God sends His love evermore upon you. If you seek Him by night, He will follow you by day. Wherever you are, in your affairs, in your business transactions, the help, the protection and the presence of the Divine will follow you. To the sight of the seer, from the least fraction of beauty to the absolute beauty of nature, all becomes as one single immanence of the divine Beloved. ...the divine Beloved says, 'I have no admirer, though I am standing adorned. Some admire my bracelets, others admire my earrings, some admire my necklace, some admire my anklets, but I would give my hand to him and consider that for him I have adorned myself, who would understand and glorify my Being to the fullest extent, wherein lies my satisfaction.' taken from, https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_22.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Feb 05, 2020 05:00 am Was reading this last entry and came across this;
There are five chief sins against love, which turn nectar into poison. The first is when the lover deprives the beloved of freedom and happiness against her desire, because of his love. The next is when the lover gives way to a spirit of rivalry and jealousy or bitterness in love. Thirdly, if the lover doubts, distrusts, and suspects the one whom he loves. Fourthly, if he shrinks from enduring all the sorrows, pains, troubles, difficulties, and sufferings that come in the path of love. And finally, when the lover pursues his own will instead of complete resignation to the beloved's wish. These are the natural failings of a loving heart, as maladies are natural to the physical body. As lack of health makes life miserable, so lack of love makes the heart wretched. Only the lover who avoids these faults benefits by love, and arrives safely at his destination. I wonder; is it wise to trust someone you have met on the internet and never met in person? Is it possible to love and still be mindful of the fact you can not trust everything said to you nor can you not suspect a person who may take advantage of you financially.... when you yourself may need the money for another purpose. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Feb 05, 2020 10:41 pm steve you got to get off these dating sites! ;D if you want to try a dating app that has a better reputation try bumble, my friends have had success there.
Title: The Hall of Vibrations Post by: guest88 on Feb 11, 2020 10:33 pm Whoever knows the mystery of vibrations indeed knows all things. Bowl of Saki, February 10, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan:All planes of existence consist of vibrations, from the finest to the grossest kind; the vibrations of each plane have come from a higher one, and have become grosser. Whoever knows the mystery of vibrations, he indeed knows all things. ... From the scientific standpoint, spirit and matter are quite different from each other, but according to the philosophical point of view they are one. Spirit and matter are different, just as water is different from snow; yet again they are not different, for snow is nothing other than water. When spiritual vibrations become more dense they turn into matter, and when material vibrations become finer they develop into spirit. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_1.htm As the alchemist of our personal reality we choose which vibration to attune towards. Title: Re: The Hall of Vibrations Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Feb 13, 2020 07:09 am Whoever knows the mystery of vibrations indeed knows all things. Bowl of Saki, February 10, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan:All planes of existence consist of vibrations, from the finest to the grossest kind; the vibrations of each plane have come from a higher one, and have become grosser. Whoever knows the mystery of vibrations, he indeed knows all things. ... From the scientific standpoint, spirit and matter are quite different from each other, but according to the philosophical point of view they are one. Spirit and matter are different, just as water is different from snow; yet again they are not different, for snow is nothing other than water. When spiritual vibrations become more dense they turn into matter, and when material vibrations become finer they develop into spirit. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_1.htm As the alchemist of our personal reality we choose which vibration to attune towards. Have noticed that at times I feel out of place in this ‘hard reality’ of physical manifestation which seems so cumbersome and slow as well as difficult to express fluidly. Perhaps it is because of spending so much time in astral dimensions where it is easier to manifest thoughts and consciousness. Sometimes i feel more in tune with higher vibrations in this physical dimension as well depending on where the cosciousness finds present awareness. Title: Re: The Hall of Vibrations Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Feb 18, 2020 11:23 am Whoever knows the mystery of vibrations indeed knows all things. Bowl of Saki, February 10, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan:All planes of existence consist of vibrations, from the finest to the grossest kind; the vibrations of each plane have come from a higher one, and have become grosser. Whoever knows the mystery of vibrations, he indeed knows all things.” The stages of India teach that we should not be fanatics about anything for example denying the existence of matter. We should develop our consciousness to the point where in we can know that mind and matter both exist, but are not as we think they are. Matter appears as a visible, tangible form, but in reality it is composed of unseen electromagnetic waves. It is a force. All so-called solids that we see our insubstantial. They are composed of flying atoms held together by magnetic force. Nothing is solid. ~ Paramahansa Yogananda Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Mar 30, 2020 11:02 pm According to his evolution, one knows truth.
Bowl of Saki, March 29, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Somebody can be praised by one and hated by another, and ten people may all have a different idea of the same person, because each understands him according to his state of evolution. Each sees that person according to his own point of view, each looks at him through his own eyes, and therefore the same person is different to each being. In the mind of one the person is a sinner, in the mind of another he is a saint. The same person who is considered gentle and good by one is considered the opposite by another. If this can be so in connection with a living being, it is equally possible that various ideas of the deity should be formed in each heart, and that each soul should mold his own deity according to his own evolution and according to his way of idealizing and understanding. Therefore the deity of every heart is different and is as that person has imagined; but the God of every soul is one and the same, whatever people imagine. It is the same God that they all imagine, but their imaginations are different and it is the lack of understanding of this that has caused the differences in religion. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_11.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Apr 04, 2020 09:01 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik90.jpg)
To give sympathy is sovereignty, to desire it from others is captivity. Bowl of Saki, April 4, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Apr 08, 2020 06:13 pm As the light of the sun helps the plant to grow, so the divine Spirit helps the soul towards its perfection.
Bowl of Saki, April 8, by Hazrat Inayat Khan (http://www.nekbakhtfoundation.org/wp/images/gallery/Hazrat%20Inayat%20Khan/HIK8.%20%20ID6%201909%20-%20Calcutta%20India.jpg) A young Inayat Khan. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Apr 18, 2020 08:01 pm (http://nekbakhtfoundation.org/wp/images/gallery/Hazrat%20Inayat%20Khan/HIK11.%20ID9%20%201910%20India.jpg)
Our success or failure depends upon the harmony or disharmony of our individual will with the Divine Will. Bowl of Saki, April 18, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: It is the Divine Will that is manifested throughout the whole universe, which has created the whole universe; and it is part of the divine will that manifests itself through us. Everything we do in life is governed and directed by that power. ... Now coming to the question of the will of man as opposed to the will of God: which is which? We understand the difference when we perceive that the nature of will power differs only according to whether it exists in its fullness, or whether it is limited. The will power in its fullness is divine power; the will power in its limited state is the individual will. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_7.htm Resignation is a quality of the saintly souls. It is bitter in taste but sweet in result. Whatever a man's power and position in life may be, he has always to meet with a more powerful will, in whatever form it may manifest. In truth this is the divine will. By opposing the divine will one may break oneself; but by resigning oneself to the divine will one opens up a way. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIIIa/VIIIa_1_12.htm We come to understand that there are two aspects of will working through all things in life. One is the individual will, the other the divine will. When a person goes against the divine will, naturally his human will fails and he finds difficulties, because he is swimming against the tide. The moment a person works in consonance, in harmony with the divine will, things become smooth. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_7.htm Sometimes things are accomplished without the least effort. When it is the divine will it is like something floating on water; it advances without effort. Problems and actions may be achieved in a moment then, whilst at other times the smallest problem cannot be solved without great difficulty. One finds that some persons are very clever and experienced in industrial work or in politics; and they have striven very hard to attain their goal, and yet have accomplished nothing; they are always a failure. And there are others who take up a thing, and without much effort, without much worry on their part they complete it and attain their goal. All this is accounted for by harmony with the divine will. Everyone experiences such a thing at some time or other. When things are in harmony with the divine will, everything is there; we just glance towards a thing and it is found, as in the saying, 'Word spoken, action done.' When we strive with all the material in our hands and yet cannot achieve our desire, that is when the matter is contrary to the divine will. Our success or failure all depends upon the harmony or disharmony of our individual will with the divine will. ... Contentment and perfect resignation open up a harmonious feeling and bring the divine will into harmony with our own. Our blessing now becomes a divine blessing, our words divine words, our atmosphere a divine atmosphere, although we seem to be limited beings; for our will becomes absorbed into the whole, and so our will becomes the will of God. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_5.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Apr 30, 2020 08:27 am (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/04_29_20.jpg)
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jun 06, 2020 10:49 pm Forbearance, patience and tolerance are the only conditions which keep two individual hearts united.
Bowl of Saki, June 5, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jun 07, 2020 04:54 am Forbearance, patience and tolerance are the only conditions which keep two individual hearts united. Bowl of Saki, June 5, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Seeing you practicing this inspires a long fruitful relationship to continue to unfold not always understanding but realizing each of us brings a unique perspective in God’s many facets of expression. Unexpected reactions from others sometimes just brings us to the realization that Gods understanding underscores our own definitive approach seeing through the lenses of finite visions. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jun 19, 2020 11:22 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/06_19_20.jpg)
Faith... Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jun 22, 2020 06:57 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/06_22_20.jpg)
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jul 08, 2020 06:31 pm While some judge another from his own moral standpoint, the wise one looks also at the point of view of another.
Bowl of Saki, July 8, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Hazrat Inayat Khan A mystic removes the barrier that stands between himself and another person by trying to look at life not only from his own point of view, but also from the point of view of another. All disputes and disagreements arise from people's misunderstanding of each other. Mostly, people misunderstand each other because they have their fixed points of view and are not willing to move from them. This is a rigid condition of mind. The more dense a person is, the more fixed he is in his own points of view. Therefore, it is easy to change the mind of an intelligent person, but it is most difficult to change the mind of a foolish person once it is fixed. It is this dense quality of mind which becomes fixed on a certain idea and that clouds the eyes so that they cannot see from the point of view of another person. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_2.htm The condition today is that people are rich, they have all convenience and comfort -- but what is lacking is understanding. Home is full of comfort, but there is no understanding, there is no happiness. It is such a little thing, and yet so difficult to obtain. No intellectuality can give understanding. This is where man makes a mistake: he wants to understand through his head. Understanding comes from the heart. The heart must be glowing, living. When the heart becomes feeling then there is understanding, then you are ready to see from the point of view of another as much as you can see from your own point of view. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_1_20.htm Is it not amusing to think that the foolish person disagrees more with others than the wise? One would think that he knows more than the wise one. The wise one agrees with both the foolish and the wise; he is ready to understand everybody's point of view. It may not be his idea, his way of looking, but he is capable of looking at things from the point of view of others. It is not one eye that sees fully; to make the vision complete two eyes are needed, and so the wise one can see from two points of view. If we do not keep away our own thoughts and preconceived ideas, if we cannot be passive and desirous of seeing from the point of view of another, we make a great mistake. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_2_19.htm (http://www.houseofwinterspells.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/sufi.jpg) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jul 10, 2020 11:11 pm This is great! I want to take from it...process it... digest it...make it my own wisdom.
A mystic removes the barrier that stands between himself and another person by trying to look at life not only from his own point of view, but also from the point of view of another. All disputes and disagreements arise from people's misunderstanding of each other. Mostly, people misunderstand each other because they have their fixed points of view and are not willing to move from them. This is a rigid condition of mind. The more dense a person is, the more fixed he is in his own points of view. Therefore, it is easy to change the mind of an intelligent person, but it is most difficult to change the mind of a foolish person once it is fixed. It is this dense quality of mind which becomes fixed on a certain idea and that clouds the eyes so that they cannot see from the point of view of another person. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_2.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jul 11, 2020 09:02 am Do not bemoan the past, do not worry about the future, but try to make the best of today.
Bowl of Saki, July 11, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Hazrat Inayat Khan There is not anything one should not be ready to tolerate, and there is nobody whom one should not forgive. Never doubt those whom you trust; never hate those whom you love; never cast down those whom you once raise in your estimation. Wish to make friends with everyone you meet; make an effort to gain the friendship of those you find difficult ... No one is either higher or lower than oneself. In all sources that fulfill one's need, one may see one source, God, the only source; and in admiring and in bowing before and in loving anyone, one may consider one is doing it to God. In sorrow one may look to God, and in joy one may thank Him. One does not bemoan the past, nor worry about the future; one tries only to make the best of today. One should know no failure, for even in a fall there is a stepping-stone to rise. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_I_2.htm In Fitzgerald's translation of Omar Khayyam: 'O my Beloved, fill the cup that clears today of past regrets and future fears. Why, tomorrow I may be myself, with yesterday's sev'n thousand years!' By this he means: Make the best of this moment; it is now that you can clearly see eternity, if you live in this moment. But if you keep the world of the past or the world of the future before you, you do not live in eternity but in a limited world. In other words, live neither in the past nor in the future, but in eternity. It is now that we should try to discover that happiness which is to be found in the freedom of the soul. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIIIa/VIIIa_1_1.htm ~~~ Do not bemoan the past, do not worry about the future, but try to make the best of today. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Aug 13, 2020 01:21 am Quote Art is much more important than the average person realizes it to be -- despite the saying that 'art is what man makes, and nature is what God makes.' I would prefer to say that nature is what God makes as God, and art is what God makes as man. The artist who has arrived at some perfection in his art, whatever his art may be, will come to realize that it is not he who ever achieved anything; it is someone else who came forward every time. And when the artist produces a perfect thing, he finds it difficult to imagine that it has been produced by him. He can do nothing but bow his head in humility before that unseen power and wisdom which takes his body, his heart, his brain, and his eyes as its instrument. Whenever beauty is produced in art, be it music, or poetry, or painting, or writing, or anything else, one must never think that man produced it. It is through man that God completes His creation. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_4_3.htm(https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/08_12_20.jpg) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Aug 13, 2020 10:39 am Something to remember when anything of beauty is manifest. Through focus and attention we can be that channel through which God can use us.
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Aug 21, 2020 02:10 am The more the self learns, the more it overlooks the evil in others. It does not mean that the evil is not in others; it only means that one finds in oneself the enemy which one was seeing outwardly. And the worst enemy one was faced with in outer life one finds to be in one's own heart. It makes one feel humiliated, but it teaches the true lesson: one finds oneself having the same element which one wishes to resist in another.
from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_19.htm ~From Eric as tides to dust Thanks for the link here Eric. This is quite a long ‘lesson’ and I really wanted to see what you quoted in context. Need to read it all to comment... if I decide it is something to comment about. Usually I have no problems accepting and learning from Hazrat Khan— He is obviously a great spiritual man. This last one I need to read in context because I cannot see that every one who has seen the evil in tyrants he can also see that same evil in himself. I think most people have the ability to see the evil of tyranny in for instance Adolph Hitler without having to accept that the enemy we were fighting was just the same in ourselves. Hmmmm It was really something that had to be resisted otherwise we would have had a maniacal ruler running our world. As Paramahansa Yogananda said you could use non violence on the British but don’t ever think you could on such people as Hitler. Your non violence would have been met by your easy death. I need to read the lesson that goes with this quote several times because Hazrat Khan has become quite an inspiration to me over the years due to your bringing his wisdom to us. P.S. sorry 😐 I made the mistake of modifying your post instead of quoting it and making my own! « Last Edit: Today at 12:09 am by Steve Hydonus » Report Spam Report to moderator 107.77.72.62 (?) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Aug 21, 2020 10:16 am Namaste Eric as I said before I need to read the whole link you sent. This is part of what I read;
In the form of anger, passion, greed, or stubbornness one sees evil, and also in the form of deceit and treachery. But the root of evil is one, and that is selfishness. In one person's heart the evil is perhaps manifest on the surface, in another person it is in the depth. There is a saying in the East, 'Do not invoke the name of Satan or he will rise from his grave.' An inconsiderate or tactless person always falls into the error of awakening this evil even if it is asleep, for he does not know the music of life. In order to live in the world one should become a musician of life. Every person therein is a note, and the one who feels this way has an instrument before him: the whole world is an instrument upon which a symphony is to be played. ~ Hazrat Khan ...”An inconsiderate tactless person always falls into the error of awakening this evil even if it is asleep.” Sometimes we have said nothing yet an evil person will attack us anyhow. Why is that? And how are we to take the blame and have them attack us with the intention of destroying us or abusing us? Then the Master goes on to say; Evil may be likened to fire. The nature of fire is to destroy everything that comes into its fold. The power of evil is as great as the power of fire, and at the same time evil is as weak as fire, for fire does not endure, and so evil does not last. As fire destroys itself, so evil is its own destruction. Why is it said, 'Do not resist evil?' Because resistance gives life to evil, non-resistance lets it burn itself out. If we did not resist the evil of Adolph Hitler the war would have even been worst when it reached our shores. But we anticipated a psychopath and had no choice but to resist him and put an end to his heartless murder and destruction. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Aug 22, 2020 07:04 pm I found this in your last link Eric;
What education, what point of view, what attitude in life is the best and will give the greatest happiness? It is the attitude of overlooking evil instead of resisting it. There are three ways of living one's life, which can be compared with the struggling in the sea whose waves are rising and falling all the time. The first will struggle as long as life will permit; but the rising and falling of the waves in the sea continue forever and ever, and in the end he will be drowned. And so it is with man. He struggles along, intoxicated by his struggle. How long will it go on? As long as his energy will permit it, and in the end he will be drowned. In this struggle he may seem powerful, he may seem to have overcome others, he may seem to have done things greater than others – but what is it after all? In the end that person is drowned. There is another man who knows how to move his arms harmoniously in the water, and who has got the rhythm of moving his arms and legs. He swims with the rising and falling of the waves, he is not struggling. This man has a hope of arriving at the port, if only the port is near. If his ideal is not too far off, then he is the one to accomplish it. The third person is the one who walks above and over the water. It is this which is the meaning of Christ's walking upon the sea. Life is just like waves, it is making its way continually. The one who allows himself to be disturbed by it will be more and more disturbed every day. The one who does not take notice of it will keep the quietness which is his own within himself. The one who sees all things and yet rises above all things is the one who will walk upon the sea. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Aug 22, 2020 07:19 pm that's beautiful! and it seems like it answers your questions too. almost like the spirit of hazrat inayat khan is addressing your concerns. :)
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Aug 22, 2020 08:21 pm that's beautiful! and it seems like it answers your questions too. almost like the spirit of hazrat inayat khan is addressing your concerns. :) Yes dear friend it is something to keep in mind when we see the tides so strong trying to pull us in directions that only disturb the inner peace of ourselves and those around us. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Aug 24, 2020 11:51 pm Put your trust in God for support and see His hidden hand working through all sources.
Bowl of Saki, August 24, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: The one thing to rely upon is God's favor. Do not build either on your study or on your meditation, although they both help you. But you are dependent on God, not even on your murshid. Seek Him, trust Him. In Him lies your life's purpose, and in Him is hidden the rest of your soul. https://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.php Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Sep 13, 2020 04:16 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/09_13_20.jpg)
Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Many seek protection from all hurting influences by building some wall around themselves. But the canopy over the earth is so high that a wall cannot be built high enough, and the only thing one can do is to live in the midst of all inharmonious influences, to strengthen his will power and to bear all things, yet keeping the fineness of character and a nobleness of manner together with an ever-living heart. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_14.htm To say, 'You are different and I am different, your religion is different and my religion is different, your belief is different and my belief is different,' will not unite, it will only divide humanity. Those who, with the excuse of their great faith in their own religion, hurt the feelings of another and divide humanity which has the same source and goal, abuse religion, whatever be their faith. The message, at whatever period it came to the world, did not come just to a certain section of humanity; it did not come to raise only some few people who perhaps accepted the faith, the message, or a particular organized Church. No, all these things came afterwards. The rain does not fall in a certain land only; the sun does not shine only on a particular country. All that comes from God is for all souls. If they are worthy, they deserve it; it is their reward; if they are unworthy, they are the more entitled to it. Verily, blessing is for every soul; for every soul, whatever be his faith or belief, belongs to God. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_2.htm When a person begins to see all goodness as being the goodness of God, all the beauty that surrounds him as the divine beauty, he begins by worshipping a visible God, and as his heart constantly loves and admires the divine beauty in all that he sees, he begins to see in all that is visible one single vision; all becomes for him the vision of the beauty of God. His love of beauty increases his capacity to such a degree that great virtues such as tolerance and forgiveness spring naturally from his heart. Even things that people mostly look upon with contempt, he views with tolerance. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_9.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Sep 13, 2020 04:17 pm today marks the anniversary of departure day. The day Hazrat Inayat Khan departed from India and headed for America
September 13th 1910. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Sep 27, 2020 05:34 pm It is when one has lost the idea of separateness and feels himself at one with all creation that his eyes are opened and he sees the cause of all things. Bowl of Saki, September 27, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Every being and object which is distinctly separate may be called an entity, but what one calls an individual is a conception of our imagination; and the true meaning of that conception will be realized on the day when the ultimate truth throws its light upon life. On that day no one will speak about individuality; one will say 'God' and no more. There are many beings, but at the same time there is one, the only Being. Therefore objects such as streams and mountains are also living, but they only exist separately to our outer vision. When our inner vision opens then the separation is shown as a veil; then there is one vision alone, and that is the immanence of God. https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_12.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Sep 28, 2020 06:04 pm We, with our narrowness of faith or belief, accuse others of belonging to another religion, another chapel or church. We say, 'This temple is better, that faith is better.' The whole world has kept on fighting and devastating itself just because it can not understand that each form of religion is peculiar to itself. Therefore, the ideal life is in following one's own ideal. It is not in checking other people's ideals.
from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_29.htm An ideal is something to hope for and to hold on to, and in the absence of an ideal hope has nothing to look forward to. It is the lack of idealism which accounts for the present degeneration of humanity in spite of all the progress it has made in other directions. There are many kinds of ideals: principles, virtues, objects of devotion; but the greatest and highest of all ideals is the God-ideal. And when this God-ideal upon which all other ideals are based is lost, then the very notion of ideal is ignored. Man needs many things in life, but his greatest need is an ideal. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_9.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Oct 20, 2020 01:17 am (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/10_19_20.jpg)
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Oct 20, 2020 09:34 pm Close brother... my service is my religion whether it be through serving God thru work or meditation or in any other activity.
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Oct 21, 2020 12:59 am That's what he is saying. I'm glad you feel the same.
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Oct 21, 2020 01:01 am When I was young my mother would say... Wait until you get a Job, wait until you experience the real world.
And intuitively I would reply, "Mom, I'm working all the time." Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Oct 25, 2020 01:00 am Then the question arises: what is the way to attain the truth? Can it be attained through study? The answer is that the source of realizing the truth is within man - but man is the object of his realization. There are words of Hazrat 'Ali, saying that the one who knows himself truly knows God.
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Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: The phenomena of the radiance of the soul are apparent to the student of the human body. The body with its perfect mechanism loses power, magnetism, beauty, and brightness, when the soul departs from the body. This shows that the power, magnetism, beauty, and brightness belong to the soul. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_47.htm As the brain is the instrument of the mind, which is invisible, and the heart of flesh is the vehicle of the heart within, which is above substance, so it is the illumination of the soul, our invisible being, whose light is reflected within this physical body. When active it beams through the eyes, through the radiance of the countenance, charging the whole environment with a magnetic atmosphere. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_45.htm Every soul radiates an influence which charges the atmosphere all around. The more powerful the influence the wider it spreads, forcing its way even through walls. There is no barrier of water or space which can keep that influence from spreading. The stronger the influence the longer it lasts. ... Atmosphere is a silent music. It has its effect upon the listener, exciting or peaceful, whatever it may be. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_6.htm The heart of man is like a globe over the light of the soul. When the globe is dusty, naturally the light is dim. When it is cleaned, the light increases. In fact, the light is always the same. It is the fault of the globe when it is not clear. When this radiance shines out, it shows itself not only through the countenance and expression of a man, but even in the man's atmosphere. The soul-power, so to speak, freely projects outward, and the surroundings feel it. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_47.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Feb 12, 2021 01:40 am The one who arrives at the state of indifference without experiencing interest in life is incomplete and apt to be tempted by interest at any moment; but he who arrives at the state of indifference by going through interest really attains the blessed state.
Bowl of Saki, February 11, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: It is the interest of God which has been the cause of all creation and which keeps the whole universe in harmony; nevertheless one should not be completely immersed in phenomena, but should realize oneself as being independent of interests. ... He who arrives at the state of indifference without experiencing interest in life is incomplete, and apt to be tempted by interest at any moment; but he who arrives at the state of indifference by going through interest, really attains the blessed state. Perfection is reached not through interest alone, nor through indifference alone, but through the right experience and understanding of both. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_1.htm We also see many examples in this world of how interest often limits man's power, and how indifference makes it greater. But at the same time indifference should not be practiced unless it springs naturally from the heart. There is a saying in the Hindi language, 'Interest makes kings, but indifference makes emperors.' ... There comes a day in the life of a person, sooner or later, the day when he no longer thinks about himself, how he eats, how he is clothed, how he lives, how anybody treats him, if anybody loves him or hates him. Every thought that concerns himself leaves him. That day comes, and it is a blessed day when it comes to a man. That day his soul begins to live... Indifference is attained by developing interest, and by developing discrimination in one's interest. Instead of going backward one should go forward in one's interest. Then one will find that a spring will rise naturally in one's heart, when the heart has touched the zenith in the path of interest. Then the fountain of interest will break up gradually, and when this happens, one should follow this trend, so that in the end one may know what interest means, and what indifference means. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_25.htm Our likes and infatuations have a certain limit; when their time has expired the period of indifference commences. When the water of indifference is drunk, then there is no more wish for anything in the world. The nature of the water one drinks in this world is that one's thirst is quenched for a certain time and then comes again. When the water of divine knowledge is drunk, then thirst never comes again. ... Indifference, however, must be reached after interest has taken its course; before that moment it is a fault. A person without an interest in life becomes exclusive, he becomes disagreeable. Indifference must come after all experience - interest must end in indifference. Man must not take the endless path of interest: the taste of everything in the world becomes flat. Man must realize that all he seeks in the objects he runs after, that all beauty and strength, are in himself, and he must be content to feel them all in himself. ... Vairagya means satisfaction, the feeling that no desire is to be satisfied any more, that nothing on earth is desired. This is a great moment, and then comes that which is the kingdom of God. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_9.htm Vairagi means a person who has become indifferent; and yet indifference is not the word for it. It describes a person who has lost the value in his eyes of all that attracts the human being. It is no more attractive to him; it no more enslaves him. He may still be interested in all things of this life, but is not bound to them. ... No affair of this world, no relation, no friendship, no wealth, no rank, position or comfort, nothing holds him. And yet that does not mean that he in any way lacks what is called love or kindness, for if ever he lives in this world it is only out of love. He is not interested in the world and it is only love that keeps him here, the love which does not express itself any more in the way of attachment, but only in the way of kindness, forgiveness, generosity, service, consideration, sympathy, helpfulness, in any way that it can; never expecting a return from the world, but ever doing all that it can, pitying the conditions, knowing the limitations of life and its continual changeability. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_II_9.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Feb 25, 2021 03:50 pm The one who has failed himself has failed all; he who has conquered himself has won all.
Bowl of Saki, February 25, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: There is no reason for anyone to feel discouraged by his weaknesses or deficiencies, or by his actions that have dissatisfied him, or by anything in life that has failed. He should forget the past that has failed him, and begin to construct and mold his future as he would wish it to be. Considering that as a branch is not separate from the bough, and the bough is not separate from the stem, so with all our limitations we are not separate from the will of the Unlimited One. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_5.htm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/02_25_21.jpg) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Mar 01, 2021 03:34 am The one who can live up to his ideal is the king of life; he who cannot live up to it is life's slave.
Bowl of Saki, February 28, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: The ideal life is at least to try to live up to one's ideal. But in order to have an ideal one must first awaken to an ideal. Not everyone possesses an ideal; many people do not know of it. It is no exaggeration to say that the wars and disasters we have gone through, the unrest that all feel, and the disagreement among the people which is sometimes seen and sometimes not seen, are all caused by one thing and that is the lack of an ideal. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_15.htm Is it power which is the object of the spiritual person, or is it inspiration after which he seeks? It is in fact neither of these things which he pursues, but all such things as power and inspiration follow him as he proceeds on his path towards the spiritual goal. The goal of the spiritual person is self-realization, and his journey is towards the depth of his own being, his God, his ideal. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_II_7.htm God is the ideal that raises mankind to the utmost reach of perfection. ... There is no ideal that can raise the moral standard higher than the God-ideal, although love is the root of all and God is the fruit of this. Love's expansion and love's culmination and love's progress all depend upon the God-ideal. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_III_4.htm That which makes us esteem those whom we esteem is their ideal. That which raises man from earth to heaven is his ideal. And that which pulls man down from the heavens to the earth is also his ideal. When he does not live up to his ideal, he falls to earth. And when he raises his ideal he goes from earth to heaven. He can rise to any height, according to the stature of his ideal. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_29.htm ~~~ He who can live up to his ideal is the king of life; he who cannot live up to it is life's slave. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 03, 2021 06:36 pm Hmmm slow by slow. My ideal has evolved and changed through the years of this life.
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Mar 04, 2021 05:57 am I especially liked todays message:
The soul brings its light from Heaven; the mind acquires its knowledge from earth. Therefore, when the soul believes readily, the mind may still doubt. Bowl of Saki, March 3, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Belief is natural, and disbelief is unnatural, for belief is born in man, and unbelief is acquired. ... Every child born on earth is born with a tendency to believe what is told him, but the experience of the individual in this world full of falsehood teaches man to disbelieve. That shows that every soul comes from the world of truth, and opens his eyes in the world of falsehood. Every child comes into the world with that purity of heart whose natural tendency is to believe and later he acquires the tendency to doubt. The Prophet has therefore said: 'Every child is born a believer, it is afterwards that he becomes an unbeliever.' ... For doubt is earth-born and belief is heaven-born. ~~~ "Religious Gatheka 42, Belief and Disbelief in God", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) The tendency to doubt, to be depressed, the tendency towards fear, suspicion and confusion, the tendency to puzzle -- where does it all come from? It all comes from the thought of getting something in return: 'will another give me back what I have given him? Shall I get the just portion back, or less?' if that is the thought behind one's acts there will be fear, doubt, suspicion, puzzle and confusion. For what is doubt? Doubt is a cloud that stands before the sun, keeping it from shining its light. So is doubt: gathering around the soul it keeps its light from shining out, and man becomes confused and perplexed. Once selflessness is developed, it breaks through the cloud saying, 'What do I care whether anyone appreciates it; I only know to give my service, and that is all my satisfaction. I do not look forward to get it back. I have given and it is finished; this is where my duty ends.' That person is blessed, because he has conquered, he has won. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_28.htm Understanding does not depend upon the head; it depends upon the heart. By the help of the head one can make it more clear, it becomes intelligible and one can express it better. But to begin with it must come from the heart, not from the head. Besides, a person who only uses his head says, 'It must be so because I think it is so', whereas the person who has the heart quality says, 'It is so because I believe it to be so'. That is the difference. In one person there is a doubt, in the other there is conviction. ... Spiritual attainment is nothing but conviction. ... When a person arrives at the stage when the knowledge of reality becomes a conviction, then there is nothing in the world that will change it. And if there is anything to attain to, it is that conviction which one can never find in the outside world; it must rise from the depths of one's own heart. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIIIa/VIIIa_4_3.htm ~~~ The soul brings its light from the heaven and mind acquires its knowledge on earth, therefore when soul believes readily in a thing the mind doubts. (Notebook 1921) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 30, 2021 08:19 am I think the most difficult thing to know about being absorbed is this; are we absorbed in the Self or the ego? It is often difficult to decipher. Are our thoughts selfish or are they expansive and include others?
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Apr 01, 2021 12:58 pm Understanding does not depend upon the head; it depends upon the heart. By the help of the head one can make it more clear, it becomes intelligible and one can express it better. But to begin with it must come from the heart, not from the head. Besides, a person who only uses his head says, 'It must be so because I think it is so', whereas the person who has the heart quality says, 'It is so because I believe it to be so'. That is the difference. In one person there is a doubt, in the other there is conviction. ... Spiritual attainment is nothing but conviction. ... When a person arrives at the stage when the knowledge of reality becomes a conviction, then there is nothing in the world that will change it. And if there is anything to attain to, it is that conviction which one can never find in the outside world; it must rise from the depths of one's own heart.
from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIIIa/VIIIa_4_3.htm Once experienced belief is incidental. The stronger the experience and the more frequent the more is the motivation to continue on till it is a daily and moment to moment event. I wonder how other people could be cruel once they experience the love of God. And I have yet to understand why God keeps this away from those people who know nothing but turmoil and sadness. Is it that ego would identify with such an experience? Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Apr 01, 2021 04:48 pm When one praises the beauty of God, one's soul is filled with bliss. Bowl of Saki, April 1, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Hazrat Inayat Khan "Why does God need praise from me? Who am I that I should offer Him praise?" True, we can never praise Him enough; never can our praise be sufficient, but our souls are blessed with the impression of the Glory of God whenever we praise Him. The soul could praise God every moment and yet wanting to praise Him yet more, it is constantly hungering and thirsting to find the Beauty and Perfection of God. By the praise of God the soul is filled with bliss; even to utter the name of God is a blessing that can fill the soul with light, joy and happiness as nothing else can do. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/archives/prayer.htm There is a necessity for praise in prayer, praise of the beauty of God, for man must learn to recognize and praise the beauty of God as manifested in all His creation. In this way he impresses beauty on his soul, and he is able to manifest it in himself, and he becomes the friend of all and is without prejudice. For this reason the Sufi cultivates his heart. The emblem of the Sufi is a heart between two wings, meaning that when the heart is cultivated man can soar up into the heights of heaven. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_34.htm The only secret of attaining happiness is to learn how to appreciate our privileges in life. If we cultivate that sense of appreciation we shall be thankful, we shall be contented and every moment we shall offer our thanks to God, for His gifts are many and enormous. When we do not see them it is because our wants cover our eyes from seeing all with which we are blessed by Providence. No meditation, no study, nothing can help in that direction, except one thing, and that is to keep our eyes open to appreciate every little privilege in life, to admire every glimpse of beauty that comes before us, being thankful for every little love, kindness or affection shown to us by young or old, rich or poor, wise or foolish. In this way, continually developing the faculty of appreciating life and devoting it to thanksgiving, we arrive at a bliss which no words can explain, a bliss which is beyond imagination: the bliss that we find ourselves having already entered the kingdom of God. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_39.htm The two important things in life are the praise of God and the pursuit of God. The praise of God is important, and it gives bliss in life, but it is not the real attainment. The all-important work in life is the attainment of God. God cannot be explained. Any attempt to do this always ends in failure. The knowledge of Him can only be attained in the silence and in solitude, and how to do this cannot be explained better than in the words of the Urdu poet Zahir, 'He who attaineth best the peace of God, his very self must lose.' from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_38.htm ~~~ When one praises the beauty of God, one's soul is filled with bliss. (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/images/hik36.jpg) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Apr 03, 2021 08:32 am Sometimes I wonder; isn’t there something also to just praise of beauty and love for its own sake. Or is it more important to associate it with GOD? After all God is Love. At what point does the idea of a God fall away or does it ever fall away? Perhaps our notion and understanding of beauty and the praise associated with it deepens and matures as we grow spiritually.
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Apr 10, 2021 07:15 am To me, this is obvious. Of course! Some folks don't call God, God, and yet we find out in the end we are describing the same sensations or experience. And even if they seem entirely different in the moment we find that definition too evolves via experience. Gurunath would say, "Take the word GOD out of the equation" Yet he is the same man who would say, "Always Cry for God!" "God, God, God, God!" See ... ? Inayat Khan is the same. And it is Inayat Khan who agree's that words and descriptions are never enough- As you are already aware Steve- of the SMILING FOREHEAD. A story and lesson for the man who journeyed over the wall and met god. There were no words to express.
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Apr 11, 2021 02:34 am “There is a necessity for praise in prayer, praise of the beauty of God, for man must learn to recognize and praise the beauty of God as manifested in all His creation. In this way he impresses beauty on his soul, and he is able to manifest it in himself, and he becomes the friend of all and is without prejudice. For this reason the Sufi cultivates his heart. The emblem of the Sufi is a heart between two wings, meaning that when the heart is cultivated man can soar up into the heights of heaven.”
I see that it is for us as witnesses of the beauty around us to also recognize it within us and praise that depth of understanding that is given to us by grace as we are able to more and more express the beauty and higher frequencies of spiritual awakening. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on May 12, 2021 06:02 pm I drink the wine of Thy divine presence and lose myself in its intoxication. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/say/vadan_alankaras.htm There is a wine which the mystic drinks, and that wine is ecstasy. A wine so powerful that the presence of the mystic becomes as wine for everyone who comes into his presence. ... That intoxication is the love which manifests in the human heart. What does it matter, once a mystic has drunk that wine, whether he is sitting amongst the rocks in the wilderness, or in a palace? It is all the same. The palace does not deprive him of the mystic's pleasures, and neither does the rock take them away. He has found the kingdom of God on earth, about which Jesus Christ said, 'Seek ye first the kingdom of God, and all these things shall be added unto you.' from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_3.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on May 18, 2021 05:59 am Love for God is the expansion of the heart, and all actions that come from the lover of God are virtues; they cannot be otherwise.
Bowl of Saki, May 17, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: The Sufi establishes his relationship with God as the relationship between him and the Beloved. His worship of God is the expansion of the heart. His love for all beings and for every being is his love for God. He cannot find anyone to love except God, because he sees God in all. If his love is shown in devotion to parents, to wife, to children if it is shown to neighbors, to a friend or in tolerating enemies, the Sufi considers this as an action of his love towards God. In this way he fulfills in his life the teaching of the Bible, ' We live and move and have our being in God.' from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_36.htm Jesus Christ not only told us to love our friends, but also, he went as far as to say we should love our enemies; and the Sufi treads the same path. He considers his charity of heart towards his fellow man to be love for God; and in showing love to everyone, he feels he is giving his love to God. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_6.htm Love for God is the expansion of the heart, and all actions that come from the lover of God are virtues; they cannot be otherwise. There is a different outlook on life when the love of God has filled a man's heart. The lover of God will not hate anyone; for he knows that by doing so he will hate the Creator by hating His creation. He cannot be insincere, he cannot be unfaithful; for he will think that to be faithful and sincere to mankind is to be faithful and sincere to God. You can always trust the lover of God, however impractical or however lacking in cleverness he may appear to be, for simply to hold strongly in mind the thought of God purifies the soul of all bitterness, and gives man a virtue that he could obtain nowhere else and by no other means. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_III_4.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on May 24, 2021 08:31 pm Quote I have found a good sign of evaluating a person’s view is this; those who say do not know and those who know do not say. In simple terms ... those who think they know always have to tell others what’s best for them. But those who do really know need say only little and we listen to every word they say. ~ SteveLike the 1111 phenomenon, it would appear that a Spirit of Progress has a way to validate certain thoughts that pertain to our personal Understanding and Development. I thought you should see this "1111" synchronicity- which can be experienced through any medium, not just numbers. The 11:11 is a MIRRORING SYMBOL, isn't it? Here we have the Sufi wisdom, the bowl of Saki, mirroring your most recent statement. Discussion is for those who say, "What I say is right, and what you say is wrong." A sage never says such a thing hence, there is no discussion. Bowl of Saki, May 24, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Quote People discuss dogmas, beliefs, and moral principles, as they know them. But there comes a time in a man's life when he has touched truth of which he cannot speak in words; and at that time all dispute, discussion, argument ends. Part III: Mental Purification Chapter XVII SILENCE https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IV/IV_34.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on May 25, 2021 03:05 am Only one such as your higher self could offer such wisdom for both of us to take notice of! Discussion can leave you disgusted. Meditation leaves you at peace with one another. The Master’s have kept us together otherwise who would have thought that my simpleminded thoughts could incorporate yours?
Discussion is for those who say, "What I say is right, and what you say is wrong." A sage never says such a thing hence, there is no discussion Bowl of Saki, May 24, by Hazrat Inayat Khan 😂 I love it when Saints and Masters have a sense of humor. It always seems to leave you wondering. It’s like a nugget of truth that has to be digested and is easier to swallow if it has a chocolate covering of humor. Eric; Thanks for including it here. It may never leave me. It’s easier to remember when you can laugh about something that is really at the same time seriously true. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on May 27, 2021 05:55 am You’ll have to try a bowl of it. It beats Kellogg’s Corn Flakes with flying colors! saki dori ame amori
Eric brought it in from a past life when he cozied up to left wing liberals this life he brought it in for re-freshments.. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on May 27, 2021 09:57 pm I really like todays message, which kind of summarizes the view point of a Sufi Mystic.
(https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/05_27_21.jpg) Quote Everybody's path is for himself. Let everyone achieve the fulfillment of his own desires so as to be able to rise above them to the eternal goal. https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_30.htmThere are four different paths recognized as leading to the attainment of that goal. The Yogis call them Hatha Yoga, Raja Yoga, Mantra Yoga, Bhakti Yoga. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jun 04, 2021 07:15 pm The secret of a friend should be kept as one's own secret; the fault of a friend one should hide as one's own fault.
Bowl of Saki, June 4, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: A very important thing in character-building is to become conscious of one's relationship, obligation, and duty to each person in the world, and not to mix that link and connection which is established between oneself and another with a third person. One must consider that everything that is entrusted to one by any person in life is one's trust, and one must know that to prove true to the confidence of any person in the world is one's sacred obligation. In this manner a harmonious connection is established with everyone; and it is this harmony which attunes the soul to the infinite. ... Dharma in the language of the Hindus means religion, but the literal meaning of this word is duty. It suggests that one's relation to every person in the world is one's religion; and the more conscientiously one follows it, the more keen one proves in following one's religion. To keep the secret of our friend, our acquaintance, even of someone with whom for a time one has been vexed, is the most sacred obligation. The one who thus realizes his religion would never consider it right to tell another of any harm or hurt he has received from his friend. It is in this way that self-denial is learned; not always by fasting and retiring into the wilderness. ... The one who knows what the relation of friendship is between one soul and another, the tenderness of that connection, its delicacy, its beauty, and its sacredness, that one can enjoy life in its fullness, for he is living; and in this manner he must some day communicate with God. For it is the same bridge that connects two souls in the world, which, once built, becomes the path to God. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_III_1.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jun 09, 2021 05:38 pm Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan:
The final victory in the battle of life for every soul is when he has abandoned, which means when he has risen above, what once he valued most. For the value of everything exists for man only so long as he does not understand it. When he has fully understood, the value is lost, be it the lowest thing or the highest thing. It is like looking at the scenery on the stage and taking it for a palace. Such is the case with all things of the world; they seem important or precious when we need them or when we do not understand them; as soon as the veil which keeps man from understanding is lifted, then they are nothing. Do not, therefore, be surprised at the renunciation of sages. Perhaps every person in the spiritual path must go through renunciation. It is not really throwing things away or disconnecting ourselves from friends; it is not taking things to heart as seriously as one naturally does by lack of understanding. No praise, no blame is valuable; no pain or pleasure is of any importance. Rise and fall are natural consequences, so are love and hatred; what does it matter if it be this or that? It matters so long as we do not understand. Renunciation is a bowl of poison no doubt, and only the brave will drink it; but in the end it alone proves to be nectar, and this bravery brings one the final victory. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_III_5.htm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/06_09_21.jpg) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jun 30, 2021 06:48 pm When one dives within, he finds that his real self is above the perpetual motion of the universe.
Bowl of Saki, June 30, by Hazrat Inayat Khan The soul of man is a dweller in heaven. It is able to see more than the eyes can see. It is able to hear more than the ears can hear. The soul is able to expand further than man can journey. The soul is able to dive deeper than any depths that man can ever touch. The soul is able to reach higher than man can reach by any means. Its life is freedom, it knows nothing but joy and sees nothing but beauty. Its own nature is peace, and its being is life itself. It is not intelligent. It is intelligence itself. It is spirit. Its nature is not human but divine. ... Man is a process, manifestation is a process through which the spirit goes from one condition to another condition, from one pole to another pole. And through this whole process the attempt of the spirit is to find itself. ... The highest perception of freedom comes when a person has freed himself from the false ego, when he is no longer what he was. All the different kinds of freedom will give a momentary sensation of being free, but true freedom is in ourselves. When one's soul is free, then there is nothing in this world that binds one; everywhere one will breathe freedom, in heaven and on earth. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_27.htm It is therefore that the Sufi seeks God as his love, lover and beloved, his treasure, his possession, his honor, his joy, his peace; and his attainment in its perfection alone fulfills all demands of life both here and hereafter. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_I_2.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jul 07, 2021 03:19 pm It is in unfoldment that the purpose of life is fulfilled, and it is not only so with human beings but also with the lower creation; even with all the objects that exist the fulfillment of their existence lies in their unfoldment. ... We learn from this that every being and every object is working towards that unfoldment which is the fulfillment of its purpose. There is a saying of a Persian poet, Sadi, that every being is intended to be on earth for a certain purpose, and the light of that purpose has been kindled in his heart. In all different purposes which we see working through each individual, there seems to be one purpose which is behind them all, and that is the unfoldment of the soul.
from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_2_20.htm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/07_07_21.jpg) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jul 07, 2021 06:29 pm Nice message. Beautifully conveyed. Helpful to the current moment.
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jul 23, 2021 04:55 pm Commentary by Hazrat Inayat Khan:
Speaking from a metaphysical point of view, the Kingdom of Heaven may be attained by the way of repentance. If we have offended a friend, and he turns away from us, and we in fullness of heart ask for forgiveness, his heart will melt towards us. If, on the other hand, we close our heart, it becomes frozen. Repenting and asking for pardon not only melts the hearts of those we have offended, but also of those in the world unseen. These words can also be explained scientifically. Warmth melts, while cold freezes. Drops of water falling on a warm place and on a cold place are affected differently. The drop in the warm place spreads and becomes larger, covers a larger space, whereas a drop in the cold place freezes and becomes limited. Repentance has the effect of a drop spread in the warm sphere: it causes the heart to expand and become universal, while the hardening of the heart brings limitation. The bubble does not last long; it soon breaks, but with its break it joins a mighty ocean. So with us. When by warmth of heart we can break our limited self, we merge in the One, the unlimited. When our limited kingdom is lost from our sight, we inherit the Kingdom of God. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_29.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Aug 10, 2021 06:52 am Many, content with their honesty, speak just as they like at the moment. They do not mind what effect it will produce as long as they are sure that what they say is true. The truth that strikes like a hammer on the head of the listener is not desirable, one would be better off without it. This shows that it is not only a thing to consider that what one says is true, there is another consideration which is most necessary, and that is what effect it will make on the other. ... The complete spiritual life is not a dreamy one, but wide-awake, full of thought and consideration.
The word has a magic in it, it can turn friends into your enemies, and it can make your enemies your friends. The mystery of all success in every direction of life is in the word. The word has power to turn the mind of the listener warm or cold. The word can produce the effect of earth, water, fire, air, or ether. The word can produce depression or joy. The one who knows the chemistry of the word does not need drugs or herbs. He has medicine for every disease in the world, not only for bodily disease, but also for the disorders of the mind, which still remain unexplored by science. By a constant study of life, by special thought given to one's word, by careful watching of the effects of one's speech upon others, one arrives at a state of realization where one can heal hearts. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_6.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: SI on Aug 10, 2021 07:48 am Many, content with their honesty, speak just as they like at the moment. They do not mind what effect it will produce as long as they are sure that what they say is true. The truth that strikes like a hammer on the head of the listener is not desirable, one would be better off without it. This shows that it is not only a thing to consider that what one says is true, there is another consideration which is most necessary, and that is what effect it will make on the other. ... The complete spiritual life is not a dreamy one, but wide-awake, full of thought and consideration. The word has a magic in it, it can turn friends into your enemies, and it can make your enemies your friends. The mystery of all success in every direction of life is in the word. The word has power to turn the mind of the listener warm or cold. The word can produce the effect of earth, water, fire, air, or ether. The word can produce depression or joy. The one who knows the chemistry of the word does not need drugs or herbs. He has medicine for every disease in the world, not only for bodily disease, but also for the disorders of the mind, which still remain unexplored by science. By a constant study of life, by special thought given to one's word, by careful watching of the effects of one's speech upon others, one arrives at a state of realization where one can heal hearts. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_6.htm See it can be done :) I think it's how we interpret as well, and, if it's correctly interpreted. There is really so much misunderstanding going on. Some have a "way" about themselves too, that I will never have. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmFegSP8Zuo&ab_channel=RayLaska Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Aug 14, 2021 12:29 am I read a story the same day about Inayat Khan but I can't find it in the link provided. I think it was something like... He was celebrating around another human being, and tried to show his excitement and said something like "We are brothers!" And the man, possibly a solider, was so insulted by Inayat Khan he asked him how he could dare equate himself as his brother- and Inayat Khan, instead of arguing or presenting the man any wisdom from another point of view simply bowed his head and said, "I'm sorry- I am your servant." The man was pleased. And that was the end of it.
I have such a large Ego that this lesson really blew me away. Especially because I hold Inayat Khan in such high regard. More on the power of the word, https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/II/II_26.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Aug 15, 2021 03:04 pm ~~~ The pain of life is the price paid for the quickening of the heart.
Commentary by Hazrat Inayat Khan: There is a phrase in the Bible, "Knock, and it shall be opened unto you". The Message of God is an answer to the cry of humanity. Now, as to the instrument of the message -- in reality the whole universe is an instrument, and every object and every being in it is an instrument; through whichever instrument He chooses He gives His message. One sees in one's life, and especially at times when one is deep down in depression and sorrow, some answer coming to the difficulty of that situation. It may come from a friend, from a brother, from parents, from a beloved; even from one's enemy one may get what was necessary at the moment. But you will say, "Why should a message come in the life of an individual in the time of pain, or after a great sorrow? Why should not a message come every day for one's guidance?" And there are two reasons for it: One reason is that there is constantly a guidance from above, but man, so absorbed in his life's activities, does not open his heart to listen to that message and to see where it comes from. And the other reason is that the deeper the sorrow the higher the voice of the heart rises, until it reaches the throne of God; and that is the time when the answer comes, when a person is drowned deep in the sorrow and grief. ... Plainly speaking, man's real being is his heart, and in pain the heart becomes living and without pain man seems to be living on the surface. You will often see in life that people with an intolerable nature and manner, after having gone through the agony of pain in life, develop in them a finer nature. ~~~ Religious Gatheka 45, The Message, by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: SI on Aug 15, 2021 06:51 pm There is a phrase in the Bible, "Knock, and it shall be opened unto you". The Message of God is an answer to the cry of humanity. Or is it, The rewritten interpretation by man? (or really just some guy) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Aug 16, 2021 02:27 am Many, content with their honesty, speak just as they like at the moment. They do not mind what effect it will produce as long as they are sure that what they say is true. The truth that strikes like a hammer on the head of the listener is not desirable, one would be better off without it. This shows that it is not only a thing to consider that what one says is true, there is another consideration which is most necessary, and that is what effect it will make on the other. ... The complete spiritual life is not a dreamy one, but wide-awake, full of thought and consideration. The word has a magic in it, it can turn friends into your enemies, and it can make your enemies your friends. The mystery of all success in every direction of life is in the word. The word has power to turn the mind of the listener warm or cold. The word can produce the effect of earth, water, fire, air, or ether. The word can produce depression or joy. The one who knows the chemistry of the word does not need drugs or herbs. He has medicine for every disease in the world, not only for bodily disease, but also for the disorders of the mind, which still remain unexplored by science. By a constant study of life, by special thought given to one's word, by careful watching of the effects of one's speech upon others, one arrives at a state of realization where one can heal hearts. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_6.htm See it can be done :) I think it's how we interpret as well, and, if it's correctly interpreted. There is really so much misunderstanding going on. Some have a "way" about themselves too, that I will never have. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmFegSP8Zuo&ab_channel=RayLaska Yea some kinda mysterious medicine that makes you fall over cause it hits yea right in the gut when you’re tryin to relax. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Aug 17, 2021 01:50 am Commentary by Hazrat Inayat Khan:
Among all the valuable things of this world, the word is the most precious. For in the word, one can find a light which gems and jewels do not possess; a word may contain so much life that it can heal the wounds of the heart. Therefore, poetry in which the soul is expressed is as living as a human being. The greatest reward that God bestows on man is eloquence and poetry. ... There is a Hindu idea that explains this very well: that the vehicle of the goddess of learning is eloquence. Many live, but few think; and among the few who think there are fewer still who can express themselves. Then their soul's impulse is repressed, for in the expression of the soul the divine purpose is fulfilled. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_4_11.htm There are some whose thoughts are like jewels. They are collected and treasured and valued more than diamonds. Sometimes a thought brings us a peace, a joy, in whatever difficulties or sorrows we may be. ... Have you known what it is to give your meal to another and to go without yourself? It gives a happiness that no dinner eaten by yourself can give. Have you known what it is to give your coat to another and do without it yourself? It gives a joy that the satisfaction of your own wants cannot give you. Even that perfect peace and calm which is the eternal life is in man and can be attained by man. ~~~ "Supplementary Papers, Philosophy II", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) ~~~ Words that enlighten the soul are more precious than jewels. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Aug 17, 2021 10:06 am We all have certain spiritual lessons to learn in life and one of mine is to know when and how to say things that I believe to be true without being misinterpreted and offended by my presentation. There are few people who ‘know’ what is a truthful statement and when to announce it and when it is better left unsaid. No doubt that is why Amma said “no comment” when asked about the current situation in the United States and Jesus was silent with no response when Pilot asked him “what is truth?” Since we were not there perhaps he did not even give Jesus the chance to answer but he did not find any guilt in him. It was the people and the religious people that sought no answer. Some people are offended by answers or possible solutions to difficult situations. In which case anything we say can be held against us.
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: SI on Aug 17, 2021 11:57 pm Jesus was probably silent because maybe he didn't know what kind of answer was expected, as there are literally many ways to answer that question and would likely take a while to explain, and he probably also knew Pilot wouldn't get it anyway, and also he knew whatever answer he gave wouldn't be accepted anyhow, so why bother.
Quote We all have certain spiritual lessons to learn in life and one of mine is to know when and how to say things that I believe to be true without being misinterpreted and offended by my presentation. I suffer from the "say the wrong thing at the wrong time disease". --E. Murphy Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Aug 18, 2021 04:28 am We all have certain spiritual lessons to learn in life and one of mine is to know when and how to say things that I believe to be true without being misinterpreted and offended by my presentation. There are few people who ‘know’ what is a truthful statement and when to announce it and when it is better left unsaid. No doubt that is why Amma said “no comment” when asked about the current situation in the United States and Jesus was silent with no response when Pilot asked him “what is truth?” Since we were not there perhaps he did not even give Jesus the chance to answer but he did not find any guilt in him. It was the people and the religious people that sought no answer. Some people are offended by answers or possible solutions to difficult situations. In which case anything we say can be held against us. this reminds me of giving unsolicited advice. in my experience, if someone doesn't want to hear it or doesn't understand it is because they aren't ready. it isn't always an argumentative thing, i've seen it that a person needed to go through whatever personal experience before any reciprocation could take place. i too am learning how to speak or not, as i interact with a wild array of personality types- at the same time... i'm no saint and i know i have irritabilities while i interact with others that i'm not understanding. im not willing to sacrifice my well being in order to make others happy but i can try to step back and bring as little friction as possible. i think good intentions outweigh our inability to demonstrate tact or form. it is a practice afterall. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Aug 27, 2021 03:39 pm Quote The divine message has always been sent through those fitly endowed. For instance when wealth was esteemed the message was delivered by King Solomon; when beauty was worshipped, Joseph, the most handsome, gave the message; when music was regarded as celestial David gave his message in song. When there was curiosity about miracles Moses brought his message. When sacrifice was highly esteemed Abraham gave the message. When heredity was recognized, Christ gave his message as the Son of God. When democracy was necessary, Muhammad gave his message as the Servant of God, one like all and among all. ... All Masters from the time of Adam till the time of Muhammad have been the one embodiment of the Master-ideal. When Jesus Christ is represented as saying, 'I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end,' it is not meant that either the name or the visible person of Jesus Christ is the Alpha and Omega, but the Master-spirit within. It was this spirit which proclaimed this, moved by its realization of past, present, and future life, confident of its eternity. It is the same spirit which spoke through Krishna, saying, 'We appear on earth when Dharma is corrupted,' which was long before the coming of Christ. During his divine absorption Muhammad said, 'I existed even before this creation and shall remain after its assimilation.' In the holy traditions it is said, 'We have created thee of Our light and from thy light We have created the universe.' This is not said of the external person of Muhammad as known by this name. It refers to the spirit which spoke through all the blessed tongues and yet remained formless, nameless, birthless and deathless. But the blind world, absorbed in its phenomena and impressed by a certain name and form, has clung to the name, forgetting the true being. It is this ignorance which has divided the children of men into so many divisions and separated one from the other by their own delusions: whereas in reality there exists one religion and one single Master, the only God. ... There has been one Teacher only, and He alone will be. All the names which the world has fought over, are His names, and all the physical forms that have won the adoration of the truth-seeking world are His forms. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_I_2.htm [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Aug 31, 2021 01:33 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/08_31_21.jpg)
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Sep 02, 2021 11:37 am Thanks for your endless reminders of the worthiness of kind actions and thoughts. Anyway we can use such thoughts to our unfolding spiritual awareness and that of others only increases the blessings of ourselves and those God has placed in our lives for purposes we will eventually understand.
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Sep 02, 2021 02:50 pm Commentary by Hazrat Inayat Khan:
If one studies one's surroundings one finds that those who are happy are so because they have less thought of self. If they are unhappy it is because they think of themselves too much. A person is more bearable when he thinks less of himself. And a person is unbearable when he is always thinking of himself. There are many miseries in life, but the greatest misery is self-pity. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IV/IV_29.htm Self-pity is the worst poverty. When a person says, 'I am...' with pity, before he has said anything more he has diminished himself to half of what he is; and what is said further, diminishes him totally; nothing more of him is left afterwards. There is so much in the world that we can pity and which it would be right for us to take pity upon, but if we have no time free from our own self we cannot give our mind to others in the world. Life is one long journey, and the further behind we have left our self, the further we have progressed toward the goal. Verily when the false self is lost the true self is discovered. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_III_1.htm The heart becomes wide by forgetting self, but narrow by thinking of the self and pitying one's self. To gain a wide and broad heart you must have something before you to look upon, and to rest your intelligence upon -- and that something is the God-ideal. ~~~ "Supplementary Papers, Mysticism V", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) ~~~ Self-pity is the cause of all life's grievances. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Sep 06, 2021 03:42 am Commentary by Hazrat Inayat Khan:
Man seeks happiness in pleasure, in joy, but these are only shadows of happiness. The real happiness is in the heart of man. But man does not look for it. In order to find happiness, he seeks pleasure. Anything that is passing and anything that results in unhappiness is not happiness. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_3.htm In reality very few in this world know what happiness means. Pleasure is the shadow of happiness, for pleasure depends upon things outside ourselves; happiness comes from within ourselves. Happiness belongs to the heart quality; pleasure to the outer world. The distance between pleasure and happiness is as vast as that between earth and heaven. As long as the heart is not tuned to its proper pitch one will not be happy. That inner smile which shows itself in a man's expression, in his atmosphere, that belongs to happiness. If position were taken away and wealth were lost in the outer life, that inner happiness would not be taken away. And the smiling of the heart depends upon the tuning of the heart, the heart must be tuned to that pitch where it is living. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIIIa/VIIIa_4_4.htm There are a thousand excuses for unhappiness that the reasoning mind will make. But is even one of these excuses ever entirely correct? Do you think that if these people gained their desires they would be happy? If they possessed all, would that suffice? No, they would still find some excuse for unhappiness; all these excuses are only like covers over a man's eyes, for deep within is the yearning for the true happiness which none of these things can give. He who is really happy is happy everywhere, in a palace or in a cottage, in riches or in poverty, for he has discovered the fountain of happiness which is situated in his own heart. As long as a person has not found that fountain, nothing will give him real happiness. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_1.htm If there is any source from where one can get the direction on how to act in life, it is to be found in one's heart. The exercises of the Sufi help to get to the source where one can get the direction, the right direction, where there is a spark of the Spirit of Guidance. Those who care to be guided by the spirit, they are always guided, but those who know not whether such a spirit exists or does not exist, they wander through life as a wild horse in the woods, not knowing where it goes, why it runs, why it stands. It is a great pity to be thirsty and remain thirsty when the spring of fresh water is within one's reach. There can be no loss so great in life as having the spark glittering in one's heart and yet groping in the darkness through life. ~~~ "Sangatha II, Saluk: The Good Nature", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) In point of fact, whatever one makes of oneself, one becomes that. The source of happiness or unhappiness is all in man himself. When he is unaware of this, he is not able to arrange his life, but as he becomes more acquainted with this secret, he gains mastery, and the process by which this mastery is attained is the only fulfillment of the purpose of this life. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_3_4.htm ~~~ There is no source of happiness other than that in the heart of man. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Sep 06, 2021 05:26 am Brother you and I are often in sync when it comes to lessons. I was meditating today at my ‘hideaway’ and had some similar revelations. I have been tryin to understand why it is that sometimes I’m very happy and other times not unhappy but let us say restless anxious and not as happy. Anyhow I think I will comment more about my insights today on another thread.
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: SI on Sep 06, 2021 05:27 am We all have our own idea of what happiness is, even those who make these commentaries.
You have to find what works for you. It's like, you can't pick up a guitar and simply copy every lick you're heard. You must find your own and execute it well. Sometimes even better to discover what works for you on your own vs. outside influences. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Sep 13, 2021 05:24 am Agreed SI. 'In the house of my father are many mansions.' Every soul has its own religion... A mansion inside the Fathers House.
Read this today... Quote Forgiveness is a stream of love, which washes away all impurities wherever it flows. By keeping this spring of love, which is in the heart of man, running, man is able to forgive, however great the fault of his fellow man may seem. One who cannot forgive closes his heart. The sign of spirituality is that there is nothing you cannot forgive, there is no fault you cannot forget. Do not think that he who has committed a fault yesterday must do the same today, for life is constantly teaching and it is possible in one moment a sinner may turn into a saint. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_20.htm Good night Spiritual Portal <3 Sleep Easy friends. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Sep 19, 2021 03:47 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/09_19_21.jpg)
Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Truth by its very nature cannot be uttered, cannot be given. One cannot give that which cannot be put into speech. So the teacher gives a method for finding the truth, for unfolding it, for unlocking that which seems to be in one's heart. ... It is clearly impossible for anyone to impart his knowledge to another person; he can only show him how to unfold his own knowledge to himself. Everybody possesses a kingdom, but he has to find it. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XII/XII_I_21.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Oct 01, 2021 08:15 pm Happy October 1st!! 10/01/2021
(https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/10_01_21.jpg) Each soul's attainment is according to its evolution. Bowl of Saki, October 1, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Opinion is an outcome of mind. It is an outburst of its reasoning and judging faculty. And so, according to the evolution of a particular mind, its opinion is. Opinions clash when two people of different stages of evolution express themselves. Therefore the wise are more reluctant to express their opinion, whereas for the unwise it is easy. A simpleton is only too glad to express his opinion uninvited. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_21.htm Everyone, consciously or unconsciously, is striving after spiritual attainment. Sometimes he does not take the same way as we do, sometimes his point of view and his method differ, and sometimes one person attains to spiritual realization much sooner than another. It may be reached in a day, and another person may have striven for it all his life and yet not have attained to it. What determines it? It is the evolution of a particular soul. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_4.htm Every step one takes in evolution changes one's ideal. In your stage, if you love a jasmine today, it is possible that in your next step in evolution you may have grown above it and you love a rose. And it is not necessary that you should keep to the jasmine when your evolution brings you to the love for the rose -- thus one is kept from progressing. ~~~ "Githa I, Sadhana 3" by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) To the question, "Are you a Christian?", "Are you a Muslim?", "Are you a Jew?", the Sufi's answer would be 'yes' rather than 'no', for the Sufi opposes no religion but sympathizes with all. In fact Sufism cannot be called a religion, for it does not impose either belief or principle upon anyone, considering that each individual soul has its own principles best suited for it, and a belief which changes with each grade of evolution. ... A Sufi does not dispute on spiritual subjects with everyone, for this reason: the spiritual evolution of each one differs from that of the other, the knowledge of one cannot be the knowledge of the other, nor is the understanding of one the understanding of the other. ... at every step in spiritual evolution a person's belief changes until one arrives at a final belief which words cannot explain. ~~~ "Gathekas for Candidates", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Oct 04, 2021 05:12 am (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/10_03_21.jpg)
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To what does the love of God lead? It leads to that peace and stillness which can be seen in the life of the tree, which bears fruits and flowers for others and expects no returns, not even thanks in return. It serves, and cares for nothing else, not even for appreciation. That is the attribute of the godly. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_9.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Oct 21, 2021 03:15 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/10_21_21.jpg)
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Oct 21, 2021 03:18 pm Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan:
The soul is the Spirit of God, and the Spirit of God lives within the shrine of the heart; this shrine can be closed or it can be open. There are some things in life that open it and some that close it. The things that close the heart are those which are contrary to love, tolerance and forgiveness, such as coldness, bitterness and ill-will, and a strong element of duality. The world is more upset today than ever before; in many ways man seems to go from bad to worse, and yet he thinks that he is progressing. It is not lack of organization or of civilization; both these things he has. What he lacks is the expression of the soul. He closes his door to his fellow man, he closes the shrine of the heart and by doing so he is keeping God away from himself and others. Nation is set against nation, race against race, religion against religion. Therefore today more than ever before there is a need for the realization of this philosophy. What we need is not that all religions should become one, nor all races; that can never be. But what is needed is undivided progress, and making ourselves examples of love and tolerance. By talking about it, by discussing and arguing it will not come, but by self-realization, by making ourselves the examples of what should be, by giving love, taking love, and showing in our action gentleness, consideration and the desire for service for the sake of God in whom we can all unite beyond the narrow barriers of race and creed. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_20.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Oct 25, 2021 07:38 am Commentary by Hazrat Inayat Khan:
God and man are like the two ends of one line. When a believer in God conceives of God as a separate entity and of man as a being separate from Him, he makes himself an exile, an exile from the kingdom of God. He holds fast to the form of God created by himself, and he does not reach the Spirit of God. However good and virtuous he has been in life, however religious in his actions, he has not fulfilled the purpose of his life. ... Those who think that God is not outside but only within are as wrong as those who believe that God is not within but only outside. In fact God is both inside and outside, but it is very necessary to begin by believing in that God outside. From our childhood we have learned everything outside. We learn what the eye is by looking at the eyes of others; everything we see in ourselves we have always learned from outside. So even in order to learn to see God we must begin by seeing God outside: as the Creator, the Judge, the Knower of all things, the forgiver; and when we have understood Him better, the next step is that the God that we have always seen outside we now also find within, and that completes our worship. If we have only found Him outside then we are His worshippers, but we remain separate from him and there is no communion, which is the purpose of life. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_9.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Oct 25, 2021 01:09 pm Very nice perspective and one that can expand our spiritual awareness being omnipresent. I have found some people are able to transfer their spiritual awareness outside as well as inside. But it is more difficult when we think of this physical creation as being so real.
It becomes more common place when we find others that can first see ghosts and spirits, auras and presences. Miracles are less common but yet still a very important part of our lives and some people-to varying degrees- find that life itself is a miracle. Although we are in a spiritual dimension in this life. For most it is a challenging dimension of growth and learning lessons. But for those who have enlightenment or some degree of spiritual understanding life brings us in touch with that spiritual dimension inside and out and we are helped by its recognition. Most of life is really about how we see it, not how others want us to see it. Much of life is how we see it. Not how others want us to see it. We can let others see it differently. Times when we feel challenged by the views of others are important for us to grow in our awareness. I have been helped much by Hazrat Khan with his expansive awareness. Thanks Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Oct 25, 2021 06:55 pm Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan:
Man, absorbed from morning till evening in his occupations which engage his every attention to the things of the earth and of self interest, remains intoxicated. Seldom there are moments in his life, brought about by pain or suffering, when he experiences a state of mind which can be called soberness. Hindus call this state of mind sat, which is a state of tranquility. Man then begins to become conscious of some part of his being which he finds to have almost covered his eyes. When we look at life from this point of view we find that an individual who claims to be a living being is not necessarily living a full life. It is only a realization of inner life which at every moment unveils the soul, and brings before man another aspect of life in which he finds fullness, a greater satisfaction, and a rest which gives true peace. Can he speak about this to his fellow men? And if he does, what can he say? Can he say, 'I am purer,' or 'more exalted than you' or 'I understand life better than you?' As life unfolds itself to man the first lesson it teaches is humility; the first thing that comes to man's vision is his own limitedness. The vaster God appears to him, the smaller he finds himself. This goes on and on until the moment comes when he loses himself in the vision of God. In terms of the Sufis this is called fana, and it is this process that was taught by Christ under the name of self-denial. Often man interprets this teaching wrongly and considers renunciation as self-denial. He thinks that the teaching is to renounce all that is in the world. But although that is a way and an important step which leads to true self-denial, the self-denial meant is the losing oneself in God. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_7.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Oct 26, 2021 06:03 pm For me personally the way to lose myself in GOD is through meditation. i also associate the experiences of 'losing myself in GOD' to meditation since no amount of indoctrination into religious views provided such experiences. i have witnessed most people who neglect to meditate and continue with their religious practices becoming relgious and political fanatics who try to force their views on others.
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Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Nov 10, 2021 04:33 pm As it stands for most of us meditating, the desires themselves direct our mind so that no stillness is possible. In the moments of stillness there is no desire. Everything becomes clear. Even a few moments of settling the minds constant activity brings an awareness of what activities need to be done apart from any personal desires. No desires need to be fulfilled if we are satisfied with what is.
~ Jitendra Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Nov 12, 2021 05:52 am As it stands for most of us meditating, the desires themselves direct our mind so that no stillness is possible. In the moments of stillness there is no desire. Everything becomes clear. Even a few moments of settling the minds constant activity brings an awareness of what activities need to be done apart from any personal desires. No desires need to be fulfilled if we are satisfied with what is. It would appear a desired state indeed. Tongue-in-cheek. :)~ Jitendra Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Nov 25, 2021 01:28 pm God is within you; you are His instrument, and through you He expresses Himself to the external world.
Bowl of Saki, November 24, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Dec 07, 2021 07:33 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/12_07_21.jpg)
If his family causes a man to be so absorbed in his pride and interest in it that nobody else in the world exists for him except his own people, or when a person thinks of his own nation alone -- nothing else interests him, others do not exist for him -- in this case his family pride or his patriotism becomes a veil over his eyes, blinding him so as to make him unable to serve either others or his own. In selfishness there is an illusion of profit, but in the end the profit attained by selfishness proves to be worthless. Life is the principal thing to consider, and true life is the inner life, the realization of God, the consciousness of one's spirit. When the human heart becomes conscious of God it turns into the sea and it spreads; it extends the waves of its love to friend and foe. Spreading further and further it attains perfection. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_2_15.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Dec 10, 2021 03:50 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/12_10_21.jpg)
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Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Dec 29, 2021 05:21 am There's nothing like being in love, and simply being around the one that makes you happy. A gentle and open heart, and a willingness to please the other. To see their joy and their smile ends up making you happy. You know what else is interesting about "true love?" Every time you get it you think, "there's never been a feeling like this." Yet how often have we thought ourselves in love? Love is the greatest lesson for all of us. And we learn that things that have made us happy lose their luster when we have no one to share our joy with. Steve, I've enjoyed most our random laughing on the phone before any of us says anything to the other. That's a joy at our core- and I don't share that with many people. I also allow my self to fall in love with others, because I believe I can learn something in regards to God and the Heart in the process. My latest Love, Brenda, has been an angel and a Blessing.
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Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jan 01, 2022 06:00 pm Truth is One! It cannot be otherwise. :)
(https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/01_01_22.jpg) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jan 06, 2022 03:40 pm ...the truth cannot be put into words; all we can do is make an effort to render the mystery of life intelligible to our minds.
from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_12.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jan 09, 2022 03:55 am Quote The (limited) happiness of this world is something we cannot keep; it is just like the horizon - the nearer you go, the farther it goes. As soon as you get it, you see it is not the thing you wanted. That discontent continues its work till we have found and understood the manifestation of God, in which is hidden the Divine Spirit. God cannot be found in temples, for God is Love; and love does not live in temples, but in the heart of man, which is the temple of God. The true religion would be to recognize it is so and to tolerate, to forgive and to love each other. ~~~ "Supplementary Papers, Brotherhood I", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jan 09, 2022 04:08 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/01_09_22.jpg)
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jan 11, 2022 06:16 pm This is one of my favorite messages...
(https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/01_11_22.jpg) Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: In love abides all knowledge. It is mankind's love and interest in the things that in time reveals their secret, and then man knows how to develop, control, and utilize them. No one can know anybody, however much he may profess to know, except the lover, because in the absence of love the inner eyes are blind. Only the outer eyes are open, which are merely the spectacles of the inner eyes. If the sight is not keen, of what use are the spectacles? It is for this reason that we admire all those whom we love, and are blind to the good qualities of those whom we do not love. It is not always that these deserve our neglect, but our eyes, without love, cannot see their goodness. Those whom we love may have bad points too, but as love sees beauty, so we see that alone in them. Intelligence itself in its next step towards manifestation is love. When the light of love has been lit, the heart becomes transparent, so that the intelligence of the soul can see through it. But until the heart is kindled by the flame of love, the intelligence, which is constantly yearning to experience life on the surface, is groping in the dark. ... Love is like the fire; its glow is devotion, its flame is wisdom, its smoke is attachment, and its ashes detachment. Flame rises from glow, so it is with wisdom, which rises from devotion. When love's fire produces its flame it illuminates the devotee's path in life like a torch, and all darkness vanishes.... if this love expands to embrace the whole creation of the Heavenly Father, it raises man to be among the chosen ones of God. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_19.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jan 13, 2022 03:39 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/01_13_22.jpg)
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Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jan 19, 2022 05:22 pm Considering your recent post(Steve) about magnetism:
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It is man's lack of faith that generally causes failures. In faith is the secret of fulfillment or non-fulfillment of every thought. There is no doubt about the fulfillment of a desire if man's faith works with it. But when one's own reason and doubt come and destroy the hope, one generally meets with failure. ... there are numberless people who are thinking and reasoning all their lives, asking themselves, 'Shall I do this? How can I do that? How can I overcome these obstacles? And all the time they are thinking of the hindrances, or waiting for suitable circumstances to arise, and they never do. Their whole life may be spent in the pursuit of something which reason prevents them from attaining. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_11.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest88 on Jan 25, 2022 12:09 am (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/01_24_22.jpg)
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Apr 25, 2022 03:26 am When people say that they distinguish between right and wrong by their results, even then they cannot be sure if in the punishment there was not a reward, or in the reward a punishment. What does this show us? It shows us that life is a puzzle of duality. The pairs of opposites keep us in an illusion and make us think, 'This is this, and that is that'. At the same time by throwing a greater light upon things we shall find in the end that they are quite different from what we had thought.
Seeing the nature and character of life the Sufi says that it is not very important to distinguish between two opposites. What is most important is to recognize that One which is hiding behind it all. Naturally after realizing life the Sufi climbs the ladder which leads him to unity, to the idea of unity which comes through the synthesis of life, by seeing One in all things, in all beings. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_2_12.htm The aim of the mystic is to keep near to the idea of unity, and to find out where we unite. Bowl of Saki, April 24, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Apr 25, 2022 05:38 pm The awakened soul sees all of the doings of adults as the doings of the children of one father. He looks upon them as the Father would look upon all human beings on the earth, without thinking that they are German or English or French. They are all equally dear to him. He looks upon all full of forgiveness, not only upon those who deserve it, but also upon the others, for he understands the reason behind it all. By seeing good in everybody and in everything, he begins to develop that divine light that expands itself, illuminating the greater part of life and revealing it as a scene of divine sublimity.
The mystic develops a wider outlook on life, and this wider outlook changes his actions. He develops a point of view that may be called a divine point of view. Then he rises to the state in which he feels that all that is done to him comes from God, and when he himself does right or wrong, he feels that he does right or wrong to God. To arrive at such a stage is true religion. There can be no better religion than this, the true religion of God on earth. This is the point of view that makes a person God-like and divine. He is resigned when badly treated, but for his own shortcomings, he will take himself to task, for all his actions are directed towards God. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_8.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on May 13, 2022 10:59 pm Real justice cannot be perceived until the veil of selfishness has been removed from his eyes. The least spark of selfishness will prevent man from being just; he will continue to have a partial interest, because he will be looking after his own interest. Whatever furthers his own interests, he will call his right and his justice.
The prophets and the holy ones have all recognized the justice of God as the only real justice. What is the nature of the justice of God? It cannot be read in scripture; it cannot be learned from a book; it can only be learned from the Self within after selfishness has been removed. Our limited self is like a wall separating us from the Self of God. God is as far away from us as that wall is thick. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_23.htm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/05_13_22.jpg) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on May 17, 2022 04:30 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/05_17_22.jpg)
Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: The Sufi establishes his relationship with God as the relationship between him and the Beloved. His worship of God is the expansion of the heart. His love for all beings and for every being is his love for God. He cannot find anyone to love except God, because he sees God in all. If his love is shown in devotion to parents, to wife, to children if it is shown to neighbors, to a friend or in tolerating enemies, the Sufi considers this as an action of his love towards God. In this way he fulfills in his life the teaching of the Bible, ' We live and move and have our being in God.' from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_36.htm Jesus Christ not only told us to love our friends, but also, he went as far as to say we should love our enemies; and the Sufi treads the same path. He considers his charity of heart towards his fellow man to be love for God; and in showing love to everyone, he feels he is giving his love to God. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_6.htm Love for God is the expansion of the heart, and all actions that come from the lover of God are virtues; they cannot be otherwise. There is a different outlook on life when the love of God has filled a man's heart. The lover of God will not hate anyone; for he knows that by doing so he will hate the Creator by hating His creation. He cannot be insincere, he cannot be unfaithful; for he will think that to be faithful and sincere to mankind is to be faithful and sincere to God. You can always trust the lover of God, however impractical or however lacking in cleverness he may appear to be, for simply to hold strongly in mind the thought of God purifies the soul of all bitterness, and gives man a virtue that he could obtain nowhere else and by no other means. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_III_4.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on May 18, 2022 03:12 pm God is the ideal that raises mankind to the utmost height of perfection.
Bowl of Saki, May 18, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: An ideal is something to hope for and hold on to, and in the absence of an ideal hope has nothing to look forward to. It is the lack of idealism which accounts for the present degeneration of humanity in spite of all the progress it has made in other directions. There are many kinds of ideals: principles, virtues, objects of devotion; but the greatest and highest of all ideals is the God-ideal. And when this God-ideal upon which all other ideals are based is lost, then the very notion of ideal is ignored. Man needs many things in life, but his greatest need is an ideal. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_9.htm God is the ideal that raises mankind to the utmost reach of perfection. As man considers and judges his dealings with man in his conscience, so the real worshipper of God considers his dealings with God. If he has helped anybody, if he has been kind to anybody, if he has made sacrifices for anybody, he does not look for appreciation or return for his doing so to the people to whom he has done good; for he considers that he has done it for God, and therefore, his account is with God, not with those with whom he has dealt. He does not care even if instead of praising they blame him; for in any case he has done it for God, who is the best judge and the knower of all things. There is no ideal that can raise the moral standard higher than the God-ideal, although love is the root of all and God is the fruit of this. Love's expansion and love's culmination and love's progress all depend upon the God-ideal. How much a man fears his friend, his neighbor, when he does something that might offend him whom he loves, whom he respects; and yet how narrow is his goodness when it is only for one person or for certain people! Imagine if he had the same consideration for God, then he would be considerate everywhere and in dealing with all people; as in a verse of a Sufi which says, 'Everywhere I go I find Thy sacred dwelling-place; and whichever side I look I see Thy beautiful face, my Beloved.' from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_III_4.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on May 24, 2022 04:25 pm So true...
Discussion is for those who say, "What I say is right, and what you say is wrong." A sage never says such a thing hence, there is no discussion. Bowl of Saki, May 24, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Once I was with a sage whom many people went to see. He pleased them all, and he was not fond of disputing or discussing, because to a sage there is nothing to discuss. Discussion is for those who say, 'What I say is right, and what you say is wrong.' A sage never says such a thing; hence there is no discussion. But the world is always fighting and discussing and disputing. Many would come and try to dispute with him, but he did his best to avoid dispute. I was very fond of listening to his way of dealing with inquirers. My friends wanted to discuss what the ideal life is. He said, 'Whatever you think it is.' But my friends were not satisfied with this. They wanted a discussion. They answered, 'Do you think this worldly life, with so many responsibilities, with strife from morning to evening, can be the ideal life?' He said, 'Yes.' They asked, 'Do you not think that the life you lead, retirement and seclusion, is the ideal life?' He answered, 'Yes.' They said, 'But how can we give up our present life, our responsibilities to our children, our occupations, and all these things that take up so much time. How can we leave that life in order to follow your ideal life?' He said, 'Do not leave it.' They went on, 'But, if we do not leave it, how can we get on in the spiritual life?' Then the sage asked, 'What do you mean by the spiritual life?' 'We mean by spiritual life a life like yours,' they answered. He said, 'If you think my life is a spiritual life, be like me. If you think your life is a spiritual life, keep to it. It is not possible to say which life is best. If you think your worldly strife brings you happiness, just keep to it. If you think my life gives you happiness, give up your own. Whatever makes you happy and makes you think you are doing right, do it from that moment, and see what the result is. If it gives you more happiness, go on regardless of what others say. If it gives you happiness, if you are satisfied while doing it, while reaping its effect, then it is all right. Go on with it, and you will always be blessed.' from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_29.htm People discuss dogmas, beliefs, and moral principles, as they know them. But there comes a time in a man's life when he has touched truth of which he cannot speak in words; and at that time all dispute, discussion, argument ends. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IV/IV_34.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on May 27, 2022 02:53 pm This message I hold with complete reverence
(https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/05_27_22.jpg) Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: The sages have said, 'Rise above the earthly motives. Accomplish all you wish to accomplish in life, whatever be the motive, and then that itself will lead you to a stage from which you can rise above them, and above the earthly desires of the body'. They have never said, 'Stop, and go into the jungle, and see life from our point of view'. Everybody's path is for himself. Let everyone achieve the fulfillment of his own desires so as to be able to rise above them to the eternal goal. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_30.htm All our experiences are nothing but preparation for something else. Nothing that belongs to this world, however precious, must hinder one's path of progress. For every step in the direction to that spiritual gain must be the aim of every soul. ... Every belief and every experience for a wise person is a step of a staircase. He has taken this step, there is another step for him to take. The steps of the staircase are not made for one to stand there. They are just made for one to pass, to go further. Because life is progress. Where there is no progress there is no life. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_6.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jun 03, 2022 04:16 pm The more elevated the soul, the broader the outlook.
Bowl of Saki, June 3, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Attitude is the principal thing in life. It is not the conditions in life which change life for us, but mostly it is our attitude toward life and its conditions upon which depends our happiness or unhappiness. ... The attitude becomes high and broad when one looks at life from a higher point of view. When the point of view is not high, the range of man's sight becomes limited; man becomes narrow in his outlook on life, and in his feelings, thought, speech and action the same is expressed. Why is God pointed out on high, toward the sky? Why not toward the earth, for God is everywhere? The reason is that within the range of God's sight the whole universe stands as a little grain of corn, as to one that flies in the balloon and looks down from high the whole city comes within the range of his sight, when he stands on earth he sees no further than the four walls which keep the whole world covered from his sight. What does it mean to become spiritual, or godly? It means to have a higher view of life, to look at life from a higher point of view. It is the high point of view in life which ennobles the soul. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_21.htm The eyes of the man who neglects his duty to his fellow men, absorbed in life's intoxication, will certainly become dazzled and his mind exhausted before the presence of God. It does not mean that any soul will be deprived of the divine vision, it only means that the soul who has not learned to open his eyes wide enough will have his eyes closed before the vision of God. All virtues come from a wide outlook on life, all understanding comes from the keen observation of life. Nobility of soul, therefore, is signified in the broad attitude that man takes in life. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_III_2.htm The process of spiritual development is an expansion, and this expansion is brought about by the widening of the outlook. The outlook depends upon the attitude of mind. If a mind is focused to thinking of small things, then this process of widening the outlook will not be completed. ... Spiritual progress is the lifting of the consciousness in order that the consciousness may expand to perfection. Therefore it is a continual work of trying to look into a wider sphere. By this attitude a person, without learning to be spiritual, will naturally become spiritual; his outlook on life will become different. Little things that people take to heart will seem to him of little importance; things that people become confused with will become clear to him; things that matter so much to everyone will not matter to him. Many things that frighten and horrify people will not have the same effect upon him; disappointments and failures will not take away his hope and courage. His thought, speech and action, as his outlook becomes wide, so everything he says or does will be different. What we call nobleness, that natural nobleness which belongs to the soul, will blossom. ~~~ "Sangatha I, Ta'lim", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jun 06, 2022 03:05 pm We blame others for our sorrows and misfortunes, not perceiving that we ourselves are the creators of our world.
Bowl of Saki, June 6, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jun 06, 2022 03:48 pm We blame others for our sorrows and misfortunes, not perceiving that we ourselves are the creators of our world. Bowl of Saki, June 6, by Hazrat Inayat Khan There can never be true progress when nations and kingdoms and peoples are divided; for when the races are divided then subdivisions come, and classes and parties also become divided. The same spirit of destruction is at work all the time, and even families become separated. Unity seems to be rooted out from the hearts of men. Examples are not necessary; those who will notice it can see this state of humanity, this condition of life, all over the world. -~ Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jun 08, 2022 06:37 am Nobody appears inferior to us when our heart is kindled with kindness and our eyes are open to the vision of God.
Bowl of Saki, June 7, by Hazrat Inayat Khan As Christ teaches, 'Whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.' What does all this teach us? It is all a lesson in sympathy for one's fellow man, to teach us to share in his troubles, in his despair. For whoever really experiences this joy of life, finds that it becomes so great that it fills his heart and his soul. It does not matter if he has fewer comforts or an inferior position than many in this world, because the light of his kindness, of his sympathy, of the love that is growing, the virtue that is springing up in his heart, all fill the soul with light. There is nothing now that he lacks in life, for he has become the king of it. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_1.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jun 09, 2022 04:18 am God is the Master. And in my post before this I was left asking a question... God answered directly using my interest. Thank you Lord. And thank you Inayat Khan.
Selfishness keeps one blind through life. Bowl of Saki, June 8, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Christ's teaching that man should be kind and charitable, and that of all other teachers who showed humanity the right path, seems to differ from what one sees from the practical point of view which is called common sense; yet according to uncommon sense, in other words super-sense, it is perfectly practical. If you wish to be charitable, think of the comfort of another; if you wish to be happy, think of the happiness of your fellow men; if you wish to be treated well, treat others well; if you wish that people should be just and fair to you, first be so yourself to set an example. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_III_4.htm Man's greatest enemy is his ego which manifests itself in selfishness. Even in his doing good, in his kind actions, selfishness is sometimes at work. When he does good with the thought that one day it may return to him and that he may share in the good, he sells his pearls for a price. A kind action, a thought of sympathy, of generosity, is too precious to trade with. One should give and, while giving, close the eyes. Man should remember to do every little action, every little kindness, every act of generosity with his whole heart, without the desire of getting anything in return making a trade out of it. The satisfaction must be in doing it and in nothing else. Every step in evolution makes life more valuable. The more evolved you are, the more priceless is every moment; it becomes an opportunity for you to do good to others, to serve others, to give love to others, to be gentle to others, to give your sympathy to souls who are longing and hungering for it. Life is miserable when a person is absorbed in himself; as soon as he forgets himself he is happy. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_1.htm Tulsidas, the Hindu poet, says that the essence of religion is kindness. Those who are inclined to do kindness in life must not discriminate among the people around them, between those to whom they must be kind and those to whom they need not be kind. However kind and good a person may be to those he likes, to those he wishes to be kind to, he cannot for this be called kind by nature; real kindness is that which gushes out from the heart to the worthy and to the unworthy. ... Man is the outcome of the development of the whole of creation; therefore the ego, which makes one selfish, is developed in him more than in any other creature. Selfishness keeps man blind through life, and he scarcely knows when he has caused harm to another. ... In this struggle of life, if a man can be considerate enough to keep his eyes open to all around him and see in what way he can be of help to them, he becomes rich; he inherits the kingdom of God. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_III_4.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jun 12, 2022 02:23 am An understanding of subtle consciousness.
One's whole conduct in life depends upon what he holds in his thought. Bowl of Saki, June 11, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: The heart, which is called a mirror in Sufi terms, has two different actions which it performs. Whatever is reflected in the heart does not only remain a reflection but becomes a creative power, productive of a phenomenon of a similar nature. For instance a heart which is holding in itself and reflecting the rose, will find roses everywhere. Roses will be attracted to that heart; roses will be produced from it and for it. As this reflection becomes stronger, so it becomes creative of the phenomenon of roses. The heart that holds and reflects a wound will find wounds everywhere, will attract wounds, will create wounds; for that is the nature of the phenomenon of reflection. ... There is another aspect of this reflection, and that is what one thinks, one becomes. One becomes identified with it. Therefore, the object which is in one's thought becomes one's own property, one's own quality. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IV/IV_44.htm A person (lacking mastery) holds a thought in mind, whether it is beneficial to him or not, without knowing the result which will come from it. It is like a child who holds a rattle in his hand and hits his head with the rattle and cries with the pain, and yet does not throw the rattle away. There are many who keep in their mind a thought of illness or a thought of unkindness done to them by someone and suffer from it, yet not knowing what it is that makes them suffer so, nor understanding the reason of their suffering. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_17.htm Man's whole conduct in life depends upon what he holds in his thought. The thought of the wicked produces in him wickedness, and the thought of the good creates goodness. The love of Rasul, the divine ideal, enables one to concentrate upon this ideal. Since all in the garb of matter are to be separated one day in life, good or wicked, friends or foes, what alone is reliable is the ideal which man creates within himself, call it Christ, Buddha, Krishna or Muhammad. ~~~ "Githa III, Concentration on Rasul", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) ~~~ Man's whole conduct in life depends upon what he holds in his thought. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jun 12, 2022 03:53 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/06_12_22.jpg)
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jun 17, 2022 06:56 pm The fire of devotion purifies the heart of the devotee and leads to spiritual freedom.
Bowl of Saki, June 17, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Overlooking the faults of others with politeness, tolerance, forgiveness, and resignation is regarded as a moral virtue in the East. Man's heart is visualized as the shrine of God, and even a small injury in thought, word, and deed against it is considered as a great sin against God, the Indwelling One. Gratitude is shown by the loyalty of the Orient and by being true to the salt; the hospitality of a day is remembered throughout all the years of life, while the benefactor never forgets humility even in the midst of his good deeds. There is an Eastern saying, 'Forget thy virtues and remember thy sins.' 'Chained with gold chains about the feet of God.' - Tennyson Thus the heart, developed by religion and morality, becomes first capable of choosing and then of retaining the object of devotion without wavering for a moment. Yet in the absence of these qualities it remains incapable of either choice or retention. There have been innumerable devotees in the East, Bhakta or Ashiq, whose devotional powers are absolutely indescribable and ineffable. To the ignorant the story of their lives may appear exaggerated, but the joy of self-negation is greater than that of either spiritual or material joy. Devotion sweetens the personality, and is the light on the path of the disciple. Those who study mysticism and philosophy while omitting self-sacrifice and resignation grow egoistic and self-centered. Such persons are apt to call themselves either God or a part of God, and thus make an excuse for committing any sins they like. Regardless of sin or virtue they misuse and malign others, being utterly fearless of the hereafter. Yet they forget that 'strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life', as the Bible says. The fire of devotion purifies the heart of the devotee and leads to spiritual freedom. Mysticism without devotion is like uncooked food and can never be assimilated. 'I am the heart of my devotees,' says Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita. And Hafiz says, 'O joyous day when I depart from this abode of desolation, seeking the repose of my soul and setting out in search of my Beloved.' from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XII/XII_II_8.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jun 18, 2022 04:26 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/06_18_22.jpg)
Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: As love is the source of creation and the real sustenance of all beings, so, if man knows how to give it to the world around him as sympathy, as kindness, as service, he supplies to all the food for which every soul hungers. If man knew this secret of life he would win the whole world, without any doubt. Love can always be discerned in the thought, speech, and action of the lover, for in his every expression there is a charm which shows as a beauty, tenderness, and delicacy. A heart burning in love's fire has a tendency to melt every heart with which it comes in contact. ... Love is like the fire; its glow is devotion, its flame is wisdom, its smoke is attachment, and its ashes detachment. Flame rises from glow, so it is with wisdom, which rises from devotion. When love's fire produces its flame it illuminates the devotee's path in life like a torch, and all darkness vanishes. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_19.htm All deeds of kindness and beneficence take root in the soil of the loving heart. Generosity, charity, adaptability, an accommodating nature, even renunciation, are the offspring of love alone. The great, rare and chosen beings, who for ages have been looked up to as ideal in the world, are the possessors of hearts kindled with love. All evil and sin come from the lack of love. People call love blind, but love in reality is the light of the sight. The eye can only see the surface; love can see much deeper. All ignorance is the lack of love. As fire when not kindled gives only smoke, but when kindled, the illumination flame springs forth, so it is with love. It is blind when undeveloped, but, when its fire is kindled, the flame that lights the path of the traveler from mortality to everlasting life springs forth. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_I_1.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jun 21, 2022 03:37 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/06_21_22.jpg)
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jun 22, 2022 05:53 pm Love is the fire that burns all infirmities. ... By criticizing, by judging, by looking at wickedness with contempt, one does not help the wicked or the stupid person. The one who helps is he who is ready to overlook, who is ready to forgive, to tolerate, to take disadvantages he may have to meet with patiently.
from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_5.htm To resist evil, however, usually means to participate in and be guilty of the same evil. There is a story told of Muhammad, that a man who had always maligned him and behaved as a bitter and treacherous enemy, came to see him. His disciples, hoping for revenge, were disappointed and indignant to find that Muhammad treated his despicable enemy with courtesy, even deference, granting his request. 'Did you not see the gray in his beard?' asked Muhammad after the man had gone. 'The man is old, and his age at least called for my courtesy.' It is forgiveness and that forbearance which is a recognition of the freedom and dignity of the human being, that consume all ugliness and burn up all unworthiness, leaving only beauty there. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_II_4.htm Nature is such that no two things are created alike; and the human being cannot expect his or her mate, whom nature made, to be as docile and flexible as that creature whom his imagination alone conceives. To make a friend, forgiveness is required which burns up all things, leaving only beauty. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_II_11.htm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/06_22_22.jpg) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jun 24, 2022 05:10 am (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/06_23_22.jpg)
Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: All the trouble in the world, and all the disastrous results arising out of it, all come from lack of harmony. And this shows that the world needs harmony today more than ever before. ... The true use of music is to become musical in one's thoughts, words, and actions. We must be able to give the harmony for which the soul yearns and longs every moment. All the tragedy in the world, in the individual and in the multitude, comes from lack of harmony. And harmony is best given by producing harmony in one's own life. ~~~ "Supplementary Papers, Art and Music II", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) The whole of life is as music and in order to study life we must study it as music. It is not only study, it is also practice which makes man perfect. If someone tells me that a certain person is miserable or wretched or distressed, my answer will be that he is out of tune. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_2_25.htm The Sufi harmonizes with everybody whether good or bad, wise or foolish, by becoming like the key-note. All races, nations, classes and people are like a strain of music based upon one chord, where the key-note, the common interest, holds so many personalities in a single bond of harmony. By a study of life the Sufi learns and practices the nature of its harmony. He establishes harmony with the self, with others, with the universe and with the infinite. He identifies himself with another, he sees himself, so to speak, in every other being. He cares for neither blame nor praise, considering both as coming from himself. ... He overlooks the faults of others, considering that they know no better. He hides the faults of others, and suppresses any facts that would cause disharmony. His constant fight is with the Nafs (self-interest), the root of all disharmony and the only enemy of man. By crushing this enemy man gains mastery over himself; this wins for him mastery over the whole universe, because the wall standing between the self and the Almighty has been broken down. Gentleness, mildness, respect, humility, modesty, self-denial, conscientiousness, tolerance and forgiveness are considered by the Sufi as the attributes which produce harmony within one's own soul as well as within that of another. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/II/II_3.htm Each individual composes the music of his own life. If he injures another, he brings disharmony. When his sphere is disturbed, he is disturbed himself, and there is a discord in the melody of his life. If he can quicken the feeling of another to joy or to gratitude, by that much he adds to his own life; he becomes himself by that much more alive. Whether conscious of it or not, his thought is affected for the better by the joy or gratitude of another, and his power and vitality increase thereby, and the music of his life grows more in harmony. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_I_2.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jun 26, 2022 04:03 pm Every being has a definite vocation and his vocation is the light that illuminates his life. The man who disregards his vocation is as a lamp unlit.
Bowl of Saki, June 26, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jun 27, 2022 02:39 pm Every being has a definite vocation and his vocation is the light that illuminates his life. The man who disregards his vocation is as a lamp unlit. Bowl of Saki, June 26, by Hazrat Inayat Khan This statement to me has many levels of meaning and exploration. I have had various opportunities to work towards my vocation as I see it. There are also many if not most times in our life our vocation seems defined by various social and personal life events that surround us. For instance, if someone lives in a country that is called to war, their vocation can be modeled for them and may be their responsibility that they would rather not be a part of but need to because their country needs them. Likewise many people are restricted, physically or financially to pursue their abilities and talents. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jun 27, 2022 03:37 pm Steve because yesterdays message spurred something in you- here is the expanded commentary,
Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Every being has a definite vocation, and his vocation is the light which illuminates his life. The man who disregards his vocation is a lamp unlit. He who sincerely seeks his real purpose in life is himself sought by that purpose. As he concentrates on that search a light begins to clear his confusion. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_I_2.htm We find with many people that somehow they never happen to find their life's vocation. And what happens then is that in the end they consider their life a failure. All through their life they go from one thing to another, yet as they do not know their life's object they can accomplish so little. When people ask why they do not succeed, the answer is: because they have not yet found their object. As soon as a person has found his life's object he begins to feel at home in this world, where before he had felt himself in a strange world. No sooner has a person found his way than he will prove to be fortunate, because all the things he wants to accomplish will come by themselves. Even if the whole world were against him, he will get such a power that he can hold on to his object against anything. He will get such a patience that when he is on the way to his object no misfortune will discourage him. There is no doubt that as long as he has not found it he will go from one thing to another, and again to another; and he will think that life is against him. Then he will begin to find fault with individuals, conditions, plans, the climate, with everything. Thus what is called fortunate or successful is really having the right object. When a person is wearing clothes which were not made for him, he says they are too wide or too short, but when they are his clothes he feels comfortable in them. Everyone should therefore be given freedom to choose his object in life. And if he finds his object one knows that he is on the right path. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_2.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jun 29, 2022 04:45 am The awakened heart says, "I must give, I must not demand." Thus it enters a gate that leads to a constant happiness.
Bowl of Saki, June 28, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: An unhappy person, being himself unhappy, cannot make others happy. It is a wealthy person who can help the one who is hard up, not a poor person, however much desire of helping he may have. So it is with happiness, which is a great wealth; and a happy person can take away the unhappiness of another, for he has enough for himself and for others. Earthly pleasures are the shadows of happiness; because of their transitory character. True happiness is in love, which is the stream that springs from one's soul. He who will allow this stream to run continually in all conditions of life, in all situations, however difficult, will have a happiness which truly belongs to him, the source of which is not without, but within. If there is a constant outpouring of love one becomes a divine fountain, for from the depth of the fountain rises the stream and, on its return, it pours upon the fountain, bathing it continually. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_17.htm Why does a mystic attribute such great importance to harmony? Because to a mystic, his whole life is one continuous symphony, a playing of music, with each soul contributing his particular part to the symphony. A person's success therefore depends upon the idea he has of harmony. Very few people in the world pay attention to harmony. They do not know that without it, there is no chance of happiness. It is only the harmonious ones who can make others happy and partake of that happiness themselves; and apart from them, it is hard to find happiness in the world. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_8.htm The method of attainment is to endeavor always to make others happy and by experiencing happiness in the happiness of others. In the terms of the Sufi, it is Suluk. Any selfishness prevents us from appreciating another's happiness and therefore we shall be kept back, for the happiness of others is the gate to our own happiness. Real happiness is entering the gate. We must feel satisfaction in another's satisfaction ... If a person needs a certain thing and we can supply it, we should be happy, how ever small the thing may be. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/archives/constancy.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jun 30, 2022 04:26 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/06_30_22.jpg)
Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: There is in man a false self and a real self. The real self contains the eternal; the false self contains the mortal. The real self has wisdom; the false self ignorance. The real self can rise to perfection; the false self ends in limitation. The real self has all good, the false self is productive of all evil. One can see both in oneself: God and the other one. By conquering the other one, one realizes God. This other power has been called Satan; but is it a power? In reality it is not. It is and it is not. It is a shadow. We see shadow and yet it is nothing. We should realize that this false self has no existence of its own. As soon as the soul has risen above the false self, it begins to realize its nobility. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_13.htm In order to see this question more clearly one must picture oneself as two beings, one the king and the other the servant. When one of them expresses a wish, it is the king who wishes. And the part that says, 'I cannot,' is the servant. If the servant has his way, then the king is in the place of the servant. And the more the servant has his way, the more the servant rules and the king obeys. In this way naturally conflict arises and that reflects upon the outer life; one's whole life becomes unlucky. One may be pious or good or religious, it makes no difference. If man does not realize the kingdom of God within himself nor realize his spirit to be a king, he does not accomplish the purpose of life. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_28.htm The soul of man is a dweller in heaven. It is able to see more than the eyes can see. It is able to hear more than the ears can hear. The soul is able to expand further than man can journey. The soul is able to dive deeper than any depths that man can ever touch. The soul is able to reach higher than man can reach by any means. Its life is freedom, it knows nothing but joy and sees nothing but beauty. Its own nature is peace, and its being is life itself. It is not intelligent. It is intelligence itself. It is spirit. Its nature is not human but divine. ... Man is a process, manifestation is a process through which the spirit goes from one condition to another condition, from one pole to another pole. And through this whole process the attempt of the spirit is to find itself. ... The highest perception of freedom comes when a person has freed himself from the false ego, when he is no longer what he was. All the different kinds of freedom will give a momentary sensation of being free, but true freedom is in ourselves. When one's soul is free, then there is nothing in this world that binds one; everywhere one will breathe freedom, in heaven and on earth. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_27.htm It is therefore that the Sufi seeks God as his love, lover and beloved, his treasure, his possession, his honor, his joy, his peace; and his attainment in its perfection alone fulfills all demands of life both here and hereafter. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_I_2.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jul 06, 2022 06:39 am (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/07_05_22.jpg)
When a person opposes or hinders the expression of a great ideal, and is unwilling to believe that he will meet his fellow men as soon as he has penetrated deeply enough into every soul, he is preventing himself from realizing the unlimited. All beliefs are simply degrees of clearness of vision. All are part of one ocean of truth. The more this is realized the easier is it to see the true relationship between all beliefs, and the wider does the vision of the one great ocean become. Limitations and boundaries are inevitable in human life; forms and conventions are natural and necessary; but they none the less separate humanity. It is the wise who can meet one another beyond these boundaries. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_I_3.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jul 09, 2022 04:03 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/07_09_22.jpg)
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jul 16, 2022 04:51 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/07_16_22.jpg)
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jul 27, 2022 12:40 am It would appear the wisdom from Hazrat Inayat Khan and the bowl of saki have mysteriously aligned with a recent conversation we shared in the members only section. There I quoted something by Anandamayi Ma, which seems to have drawn a response from Steve. And today, it's as if the Master is elaborating on that expression. For context, this is the quote by Anandamayi Ma...
Anandamayi Ma: “…My consciousness has never associated itself with this temporary body. Before I came on this earth Father, I was the same. I grew into womanhood but still I was the same. When the family in which I had been born made arrangements to have this body married, I was the same. And Father, in front of you now, I am the same. Even afterwards, though the dance of creation changed around me in the halls of eternity, I shall be the same.” – To Paramahansa Yogananda (https://i.pinimg.com/236x/98/c1/19/98c119ed230b6ded398422c91c9eef9e--advaita-vedanta-the-supreme.jpg?nii=t) Beautiful Ma... Beautiful. And now, todays message... The One Spirit finds ways to speak through our interest... The bowl of Saki often aligns with many internal musings: (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/07_26_22.jpg) The additional commentary really drove the synchronicity for me: Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Then again it may be said, there is a purpose above each purpose, and there is again a purpose under each purpose; and yet beyond and beneath all purposes there is no purpose. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_I_2.htm That which we call composition and decomposition and construction and destruction of things, all those are due to change, one thing turning into another. There is no such thing as death or real decomposition or destruction. It may be destruction of that particular object, but although that part which appeared in certain form or color has changed, it is not the true elements of the thing which have changed. Therefore birth and death, composing and decomposing form the constant changes in the appearance of things of life. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/archives/constancy.htm The difference between the life known to the generality and the life which is unknown is that of illusion and reality. Man mocks at the idea if he be told that all this is illusion, until he dives deep and finds out by comparison that this life which is subject to birth and death and subject to changes is a life and yet no life. This life is like a drop of water in the sea. The drop is existent and yet in reality non-existent when compared with the sea. And yet we cannot say that the drop of water is non-existent, for it merges in the same sea in which it once appeared; so nothing takes it away but its own source and its original being. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_21.htm There is only one being, God, who is above birth and death; all else is subject to the law of birth and death. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_13.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jul 27, 2022 05:19 pm Continued lessons from a Sufi master:
Belief and disbelief have divided mankind into so many sects, blinding its eyes to the vision of the oneness of all life. Bowl of Saki, July 27, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: For the Sufi there exists no one in this world, neither heathen nor pagan, who is to be despised, for he believes in that God who is not the God of one chosen sect but the God of the whole world. He does not believe in a God of one nation, but in the God of all nations. To him God is in all different houses where people worship Him. Even if they stand in the street and pray it makes no difference to him. The holy place is wherever He is worshipped. The Sufi leaves sectarianism to the sects. He has respect for all; he is not prejudiced against any and he does not despise any; he feels sympathy for all. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_33.htm The religion of the mystic is a steady progress towards unity. How does he make this progress? In two ways. In the first way, he sees himself in others, in the good, in the bad, in all; and thus, he expands the horizon of his vision. This study goes on throughout his lifetime; and as he progresses he comes closer to the oneness of all things. The other way of developing is to become conscious of one's own self in God and of God in one's self, which means deepening the consciousness of our innermost being. This process takes place in two directions: outwardly, by being one with all we see; and inwardly, by being in touch with that one Life which is everlasting, by dissolving into it and by being conscious of that one Spirit being THE existence, the only existence. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_1.htm 'There is One God, the Eternal, the Only Being; none exists save He.' The God of the Sufi is the God of every creed, and the God of all. Names make no difference to him. Allah, God, Gott, Dieu, Khuda, Brahma, or Bhagwan, all these names and more are the names of his God; and yet to him God is beyond the limitation of name. He sees his God in the sun, in the fire, in the idol which diverse sects worship; and he recognizes Him in all the forms of the universe, yet knowing Him to be beyond all form; God in all, and all in God, He being the Seen and the Unseen, the Only Being. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_I_1.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jul 29, 2022 07:53 am Thanks Eric; i had a dear friend that has now passed on. She use to laugh hilariously when I said all this life is like an illusion. But this quote sums it up quite well ⬇️ below.
The difference between the life known to the generality and the life which is unknown is that of illusion and reality. Man mocks at the idea if he be told that all this is illusion, until he dives deep and finds out by comparison that this life which is subject to birth and death and subject to changes is a life and yet no life. This life is like a drop of water in the sea. The drop is existent and yet in reality non-existent when compared with the sea. And yet we cannot say that the drop of water is non-existent, for it merges in the same sea in which it once appeared; so nothing takes it away but its own source and its original being. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_21.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jul 29, 2022 10:59 pm Eric thanks for having this topic here it also leads to other interests as well. i have moved the latest posts from it because they have actually created a whole new topic that i believe is pertinent to us all. It is under the psychic section of our site. The subject is now 'Ghosts and Spirits'....Under 'Spiritual Smorgasbord.'
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Aug 04, 2022 05:36 am Some very interesting revelations are re-emerging into focus. It would appear people are quick to become upset when they suspect another of foul play. And how often do people accuse others of wrong-doing? Or even subtler, how often do people become angry when they can not understand why a person is behaving differently- or why something was left unattended? It is a lack of understanding that stirs emotions like doubt, anger, fear or jealousy. It seems so obvious yet most people experience this regardless of ones physical age. Typically, it happens when someone in your social-circle has steered off the course from 'expected' or desired behavior. Sometimes we don't realize the desires or expectations we've placed on others until we are confronted with the emotions previously mentioned.
Meditation is helpful because it allows us to take a step back and recognize when we're crossing undesirable territory. Same with Sufism, LO1 and 'non-dualistic' teachings. A quick example I can give is when a coworker accused another employee of not working. Little did this person realize that the one being accused of not working was actually working just as hard and a new element was introduced into the environment which would cause delay in completing the assigned task. Because these workers were not together at the time the new element was introduced, when one came to check on the other and saw work had been left unfinished- she assumed the other was not working. Before waiting to receive more information her emotions coupled with an exhaustive day caused her to lash out. Let's say that new element was having multiple new customer's demanding time and energy which would otherwise be spent completing the assigned task. If the young lady but held her tongue or communicated in an effective manner, such revelations may have released her from the attachment of a negative emotion. Understanding works like a salve in this way. Well. You would think that only one person is at fault when these moments occur but life is a mirror and with the example previously mentioned, both workers ended up accusing the other of not working. It turns out, a new element was introduced for both parties. One had to deal with new customers while another had to deal with a completely different department at a last minute request. Both had checked in on the other at some point and saw something other than what they expected, both attached to a negative emotion allowing it to fester throughout the day where an assumption was made about the other for a lack of real data. It is that lack of data and the assumptions that delight the Ego, when we forget there's a bigger picture and think life revolves around the little i. Yes, all kinds of merriment(suffering) occurs. What we're owed. What we've had to endure. What you should be doing. I've experienced this kind of thing not just with the example given above but also with friends and family. Myself guilty of poor behavior and attaching to an all consuming negative wave. As I've said, it sounds obvious- like we should know better... lest you've been hit with a bout of 'Spiritual Amnesia' which occurs when you're most comfortable and think you've got it all figured out. Heheheh. Oh gosh. Life has a way huh? Well, the amount of energy behind this theme has been so strong that I am even able to see it in todays Saki. I thought it worth sharing and adding this entry as my personal take-away based on my current environment and the opportunities therein. I would like to add... Some relief has been given. Lately I can take a step back and watch before I completely succumb to the stirring emotions. Doing so has quickly brought missing data to the fore dispelling the illusion my Ego has placed before me. I can't always guarantee relief will come quickly... So... Now we have some insight archived... Who knows, this may be a post for my self in a future setting or just a cautionary tale for anyone going through similar. ~Namaste~ (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/08_03_22.jpg) Volume XIV - The Smiling Forehead Part II - The Deeper Side of Life Chapter XIX The Soul, its Origin and Unfoldment Quote Is it not amusing to think that the foolish person disagrees more with others than the wise? One would think that he knows more than the wise one. The wise one agrees with both the foolish and the wise; he is ready to understand everybody's point of view. It may not be his idea, his way of looking, but he is capable of looking at things from the point of view of others. It is not one eye that sees fully; to make the vision complete two eyes are needed, and so the wise one can see from two points of view. If we do not keep away our own thoughts and preconceived ideas, if we cannot be passive and desirous of seeing from the point of view of another, we make a great mistake. This third stage gives a tendency to understand every person we meet. https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_2_19.htmThen again there is a fourth stage of unfoldment. In this stage we not only understand, but sympathize; we cannot help but sympathize, for we can see that life in the world is nothing but limitation. Whether a person is rich, in a high position, or in a wretched condition – whatever condition he is in, or whatever he is – he has to experience this limitation and that itself is a great misery. Every person therefore has his problem before him, and when we begin to see that every person on this earth has a certain problem and weight to carry through life, we cannot help but sympathize. The one who can awake to the pain of mankind, whether it is his friend or his foe, cannot help sympathizing with him. Then he develops an outgoing tendency; he has always a feeling that he should go out to every person he meets and then, naturally, by his sympathy he looks for good points, for when one looks at a person without sympathy one will always touch his worst point. When one goes a step further still, then a way is open to communicate. Just as there is a communication between persons who love each other very much, so the sympathy of a person whose soul has unfolded itself is so awakened that not only every person but even every object begins to reveal its nature, its character and secret. To him every man is a written letter. We hear stories of saints and sages who talked with rocks and plants and trees. They are not only stories; it is reality. It is also told of the apostles that at the moment when the Spirit descended upon them they began to speak many languages. When they understood so many languages, they understood the language of every soul. It means that the illuminated soul understands the language of every soul. And every soul has its own language. It is that which is called revelation. All the teachings that the great prophets and teachers have given are only interpretations of what they have seen. They have interpreted in their own language what they have read from the manuscript of nature: that trees and plants and rocks spoke to them. Did nature only speak to those in the past? No, the soul of man is always capable of that bliss if he only realized it. Once the eyes of the heart are open, man begins to read every leaf of the tree as a page of the sacred Book. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Aug 05, 2022 07:09 pm It would appear the wisdom from Hazrat Inayat Khan and the bowl of saki have mysteriously aligned with a recent conversation we shared in the members only section. There I quoted something by Anandamayi Ma, which seems to have drawn a response from Steve. And today, it's as if the Master is elaborating on that expression. For context, this is the quote by Anandamayi Ma... 'I passed away into nothingness -- I vanished; and lo! I was all living.' All who have realized the secret of life understand that life is one, but that it exists in two aspects. First as immortal, all-pervading and silent; and secondly as mortal, active, and manifest in variety. The soul being of the first aspect becomes deluded, helpless, and captive by experiencing life in contact with the mind and body, which is of the next aspect. The gratification of the desires of the body and fancies of the mind do not suffice for the purpose of the soul, which is undoubtedly to experience its own phenomena in the seen and the unseen, though its inclination is to be itself and not anything else. When delusion makes it feel that it is helpless, mortal and captive, it finds itself out of place. This is the tragedy of life, which keeps the strong and the weak, the rich and poor, all dissatisfied, constantly looking for something they do not know. The Sufi, realizing this, takes the path of annihilation, and, by the guidance of a teacher on the path, finds at the end of this journey that the destination was he. As Iqbal says:Anandamayi Ma: “…My consciousness has never associated itself with this temporary body. Before I came on this earth Father, I was the same. I grew into womanhood but still I was the same. When the family in which I had been born made arrangements to have this body married, I was the same. And Father, in front of you now, I am the same. Even afterwards, though the dance of creation changed around me in the halls of eternity, I shall be the same.” – To Paramahansa Yogananda (https://i.pinimg.com/236x/98/c1/19/98c119ed230b6ded398422c91c9eef9e--advaita-vedanta-the-supreme.jpg?nii=t) Beautiful Ma... Beautiful. And now, todays message... The One Spirit finds ways to speak through our interest... The bowl of Saki often aligns with many internal musings: (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/07_26_22.jpg) The additional commentary really drove the synchronicity for me: Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Then again it may be said, there is a purpose above each purpose, and there is again a purpose under each purpose; and yet beyond and beneath all purposes there is no purpose. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_I_2.htm That which we call composition and decomposition and construction and destruction of things, all those are due to change, one thing turning into another. There is no such thing as death or real decomposition or destruction. It may be destruction of that particular object, but although that part which appeared in certain form or color has changed, it is not the true elements of the thing which have changed. Therefore birth and death, composing and decomposing form the constant changes in the appearance of things of life. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/archives/constancy.htm The difference between the life known to the generality and the life which is unknown is that of illusion and reality. Man mocks at the idea if he be told that all this is illusion, until he dives deep and finds out by comparison that this life which is subject to birth and death and subject to changes is a life and yet no life. This life is like a drop of water in the sea. The drop is existent and yet in reality non-existent when compared with the sea. And yet we cannot say that the drop of water is non-existent, for it merges in the same sea in which it once appeared; so nothing takes it away but its own source and its original being. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_21.htm There is only one being, God, who is above birth and death; all else is subject to the law of birth and death. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_13.htm 'I wandered in the pursuit of my own self; I was the traveler, and I am the destination.' from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_I_1.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Aug 14, 2022 11:17 pm In the country you see the glory of God; in the city you glorify His name.
Bowl of Saki, August 14, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: From Sigoli, where the train journey ends, [Inayat and his father] had six days journey through the forest. This was a new experience to a soul who wanted to breathe a breath of freedom from the crowd and to whom nature was not only appealing but uplifting. ... Inayat's enjoyment was boundless. For the first time in his life there came to him the realization of the saying: "The city was made by man and the country was made by God." The solitude of the forest, the sounds of the birds that one never feels nor hears in the crowd, the trees standing in stillness for hundreds of years, a place never occupied by man, gave him a feeling of that calm and peace that every soul longs for, consciously or unconsciously. This journey was a kind of answer to the cry of his soul. He felt in the sphere a welcome and blessing given by the long standing trees, venerable in age and appearance. He saw the hand of God blessing in every bending branch. He pictured his hands in the branches that stretched upwards, hands constantly praying and asking for blessing from above. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/bio/Biography_10.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Aug 15, 2022 03:23 am I can relate to Izrat Khan about nature. When nature is uplifting it is very much so! But at times the temperature is difficult and there are parasites that enjoy taking nibbles out of you just as you are getting peaceful. Or perhaps it may rain or snow when you are outdoors.
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Aug 17, 2022 04:33 am I would add that in the city you are inundated by the restless vibrations of the cities inhabitants. Tonight I came back from Lake Michigan pleasantly interiorized and at peace with my self. I think I knew what to say as well when responding to others. Nature wrapped it’s peaceful settling spirit around me. The meditation I had and gazing into the Sun as twilight pulled the Sun brought me back to the peace in soul expression.
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Aug 26, 2022 06:52 am Someone once said to a Brahmin, 'O ignorant man, you have worshipped this idol for years. Do you think it can ever answer you?' 'Yes,' said the Brahmin, 'even from this idol of stone the answer will come if your faith is real. But if you have no real faith, you will get no answer even from the God in heaven.' ... The first necessity is the belief that there is such a Being as God, in whom goodness, beauty, and greatness are perfect. In the beginning it will seem nothing but a belief; but in time, if kept in sincerity and faith, that belief will become like the egg of the Phoenix, out of which the magic bird is born. The birth of God is the birth of the soul. Every soul seeks for happiness, and after pursuing all the objects which for the moment seem to give happiness, it finds out that nowhere is there perfect happiness except in God.
from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_9.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Sep 02, 2022 04:20 pm Self-pity is the cause of all life's grievances.
Bowl of Saki, September 2, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: If one studies one's surroundings one finds that those who are happy are so because they have less thought of self. If they are unhappy it is because they think of themselves too much. A person is more bearable when he thinks less of himself. And a person is unbearable when he is always thinking of himself. There are many miseries in life, but the greatest misery is self-pity. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IV/IV_29.htm Self-pity is the worst poverty. When a person says, 'I am...' with pity, before he has said anything more he has diminished himself to half of what he is; and what is said further, diminishes him totally; nothing more of him is left afterwards. There is so much in the world that we can pity and which it would be right for us to take pity upon, but if we have no time free from our own self we cannot give our mind to others in the world. Life is one long journey, and the further behind we have left our self, the further we have progressed toward the goal. Verily when the false self is lost the true self is discovered. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_III_1.htm The heart becomes wide by forgetting self, but narrow by thinking of the self and pitying one's self. To gain a wide and broad heart you must have something before you to look upon, and to rest your intelligence upon -- and that something is the God-ideal. ~~~ "Supplementary Papers, Mysticism V", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) So true! Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Sep 05, 2022 04:27 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/09_05_22.jpg)
Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Man seeks happiness in pleasure, in joy, but these are only shadows of happiness. The real happiness is in the heart of man. But man does not look for it. In order to find happiness, he seeks pleasure. Anything that is passing and anything that results in unhappiness is not happiness. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_3.htm In reality very few in this world know what happiness means. Pleasure is the shadow of happiness, for pleasure depends upon things outside ourselves; happiness comes from within ourselves. Happiness belongs to the heart quality; pleasure to the outer world. The distance between pleasure and happiness is as vast as that between earth and heaven. As long as the heart is not tuned to its proper pitch one will not be happy. That inner smile which shows itself in a man's expression, in his atmosphere, that belongs to happiness. If position were taken away and wealth were lost in the outer life, that inner happiness would not be taken away. And the smiling of the heart depends upon the tuning of the heart, the heart must be tuned to that pitch where it is living. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIIIa/VIIIa_4_4.htm There are a thousand excuses for unhappiness that the reasoning mind will make. But is even one of these excuses ever entirely correct? Do you think that if these people gained their desires they would be happy? If they possessed all, would that suffice? No, they would still find some excuse for unhappiness; all these excuses are only like covers over a man's eyes, for deep within is the yearning for the true happiness which none of these things can give. He who is really happy is happy everywhere, in a palace or in a cottage, in riches or in poverty, for he has discovered the fountain of happiness which is situated in his own heart. As long as a person has not found that fountain, nothing will give him real happiness. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_1.htm If there is any source from where one can get the direction on how to act in life, it is to be found in one's heart. The exercises of the Sufi help to get to the source where one can get the direction, the right direction, where there is a spark of the Spirit of Guidance. Those who care to be guided by the spirit, they are always guided, but those who know not whether such a spirit exists or does not exist, they wander through life as a wild horse in the woods, not knowing where it goes, why it runs, why it stands. It is a great pity to be thirsty and remain thirsty when the spring of fresh water is within one's reach. There can be no loss so great in life as having the spark glittering in one's heart and yet groping in the darkness through life. ~~~ "Sangatha II, Saluk: The Good Nature", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) In point of fact, whatever one makes of oneself, one becomes that. The source of happiness or unhappiness is all in man himself. When he is unaware of this, he is not able to arrange his life, but as he becomes more acquainted with this secret, he gains mastery, and the process by which this mastery is attained is the only fulfillment of the purpose of this life. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_3_4.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Sep 09, 2022 03:50 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/09_09_22.jpg)
Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: The Sufis of all ages have been known for their beautiful personality. It does not mean that among them there have not been people with great powers, wonderful powers and wisdom. But beyond all that, what is most known of the Sufis is the human side of their nature: that tact which attuned them to wise and foolish, to poor and rich, to strong and weak -- to all. They met everyone on his own plane, they spoke to everyone in his own language. What did Jesus teach when he said to the fishermen, 'Come hither, I will make you fishers of men?' It did not mean, 'I will teach you ways by which you get the best of man.' It only meant: your tact, your sympathy will spread its arms before every soul who comes, as mother's arms are spread out for her little ones. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_15.htm Mystics of all ages have not been known for their miraculous powers or for the doctrines they have taught, but for the devotion they have shown throughout their lives. The Sufi in the East says to himself, Ishq Allah Ma'bud Allah, which means 'God is Love, God is the Beloved', in other words it is God who is Love, Lover, and Beloved. When we hear the stories of the miraculous powers of mystics, of their great insight into the hidden laws of nature, of the qualities which they manifested through their beautiful personalities, we realize that these have all come from one and the same source, whether one calls it devotion or whether one calls it love. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XI/XI_III_11.htm Once four little girls were disputing. One said, 'My mother is better than yours.' The second girl said, 'My mother is better than your mother.' So, they were arguing and being quite disagreeable to one another. But someone who was passing by said to them, 'It is not your mother or their mother, it is the mother who is always the best. It is the mother quality, her love and affection for her children.' This is the point of view of the mystic in regard to the divine ideal. The moral principle of the mystic is the love principle. He says, 'The greater your love, the greater your moral. If we are forced to be virtuous according to a certain principle, a certain regulation, certain laws or rules, then that is not real virtue. It must come from the depths of our heart; our own heart must teach us the true moral.' Thus the mystic leaves morality to the deepening of the heart quality. The mystic says that the more loving someone's heart is, the greater is his morality. There is no greater teacher of morals than love itself, for the first lesson that one learns from love is, 'I am not, you are.' This is self-denial, self-abnegation, without which we cannot take the first step on love's path. One may claim to be a great lover, to be a great admirer, to be very affectionate, but it all means nothing as long as the thought of self is there, for there is no love. But when the thought of self is removed then every action, every deed that one performs in life, becomes a virtue. It cannot be otherwise. A loving person cannot be unjust, a loving person cannot be cruel. Even if what he does seems wrong in the eyes of a thousand people, it cannot be wrong in reality. In reality, it will be right, for it is inspired by love. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_1.htm Title: Shadows of Happiness Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Sep 12, 2022 11:34 am (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/09_05_22.jpg) Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Man seeks happiness in pleasure, in joy, but these are only shadows of happiness. The real happiness is in the heart of man. But man does not look for it. In order to find happiness, he seeks pleasure. Anything that is passing and anything that results in unhappiness is not happiness. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_3.htm In reality very few in this world know what happiness means. Pleasure is the shadow of happiness, for pleasure depends upon things outside ourselves; happiness comes from within ourselves. Happiness belongs to the heart quality; pleasure to the outer world. The distance between pleasure and happiness is as vast as that between earth and heaven. As long as the heart is not tuned to its proper pitch one will not be happy. That inner smile which shows itself in a man's expression, in his atmosphere, that belongs to happiness. If position were taken away and wealth were lost in the outer life, that inner happiness would not be taken away. And the smiling of the heart depends upon the tuning of the heart, the heart must be tuned to that pitch where it is living. khan easily defines the source of our challenges when seeking true happiness, which is very helpful. Yet I find myself always going to other Masters for the means to those aspirations. Because we may know the source of our problems and often a great psychiatrist can help us identify them. Yet at some point most of us need a step by step routine to take us to the goal we seek. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIIIa/VIIIa_4_4.htm There are a thousand excuses for unhappiness that the reasoning mind will make. But is even one of these excuses ever entirely correct? Do you think that if these people gained their desires they would be happy? If they possessed all, would that suffice? No, they would still find some excuse for unhappiness; all these excuses are only like covers over a man's eyes, for deep within is the yearning for the true happiness which none of these things can give. He who is really happy is happy everywhere, in a palace or in a cottage, in riches or in poverty, for he has discovered the fountain of happiness which is situated in his own heart. As long as a person has not found that fountain, nothing will give him real happiness. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_1.htm If there is any source from where one can get the direction on how to act in life, it is to be found in one's heart. The exercises of the Sufi help to get to the source where one can get the direction, the right direction, where there is a spark of the Spirit of Guidance. Those who care to be guided by the spirit, they are always guided, but those who know not whether such a spirit exists or does not exist, they wander through life as a wild horse in the woods, not knowing where it goes, why it runs, why it stands. It is a great pity to be thirsty and remain thirsty when the spring of fresh water is within one's reach. There can be no loss so great in life as having the spark glittering in one's heart and yet groping in the darkness through life. ~~~ "Sangatha II, Saluk: The Good Nature", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) In point of fact, whatever one makes of oneself, one becomes that. The source of happiness or unhappiness is all in man himself. When he is unaware of this, he is not able to arrange his life, but as he becomes more acquainted with this secret, he gains mastery, and the process by which this mastery is attained is the only fulfillment of the purpose of this life. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_3_4.htm I think that many of us, as spiritual seekers, find ourselves seeking what Hazrat Khan calls here ‘shadows of happiness’ We may be aware of what true happiness is and have found it. Yet we still are pulled back and forth from pleasure to true happiness. That is because we still identify our progress or lack thereof with the senses and the body and its joys and pleasure. We may have found happiness of the heart, yet we still are pulled back in the world by excuses for outer desires that do not lead to true happiness. That is why I continually remind myself that the happiness I seek has been found in meditation and spiritual discipline. Especially when I again find that the outer happiness I have been drawn to causes sorrow. Like a tug of war the spiritual seeker finds him or herself pulled between physical and spiritual aspirations and worlds , until anchored in the heart and spirit. A good psychiatrist can tell us what we are doing wrong that makes us unhappy. But it takes the decision of the patient to correct these wrong actions to make us happy. In the meantime there may be someone along the way who also directs us and shows us a means to feel and access happiness to encourage us towards practicing ways that lead to our true happiness. That is why I continually practice the Iam and such techniques as Kriya yoga. Because in the practice of such meditation techniques I have more and more glimpses of what the heart offers and what temporary pleasures do not. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Sep 12, 2022 03:25 pm I look at it as service to self and service to others, and yet I see nothing wrong with dancing between the two. In another thread I posted a very serious question I hope someone out there is interested enough to engage it.
I mentioned the Gita describing the war between King Ego and King Soul. I asked why these two can't coincide, why we can't create great partnership and treat the other as an ally? Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Sep 13, 2022 06:42 pm (https://wahiduddin.net/saki/fb_posts/09_13_22.jpg)
Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Many seek protection from all hurting influences by building some wall around themselves. But the canopy over the earth is so high that a wall cannot be built high enough, and the only thing one can do is to live in the midst of all inharmonious influences, to strengthen his will power and to bear all things, yet keeping the fineness of character and a nobleness of manner together with an ever-living heart. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_14.htm When a person begins to see all goodness as being the goodness of God, all the beauty that surrounds him as the divine beauty, he begins by worshipping a visible God, and as his heart constantly loves and admires the divine beauty in all that he sees, he begins to see in all that is visible one single vision; all becomes for him the vision of the beauty of God. His love of beauty increases his capacity to such a degree that great virtues such as tolerance and forgiveness spring naturally from his heart. Even things that people mostly look upon with contempt, he views with tolerance. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_9.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Sep 14, 2022 10:20 am I am quite blessed to be around others that practice spiritual disciplines. Many good people as well.
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Sep 21, 2022 05:02 pm Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan:
The first exercise to help the will power to develop would be to check every act, word, and thought which we do not wish to occur; to avoid unintentional actions, speech, and thoughts. The other exercise that is necessary for the development of the will power is that of seeing that neither our mind nor our body rules us, but that we rule our body and our mind. Desires such as appetite, thirst, sleep, even the desire of moving or standing or walking, all these desires should be under control. There should be a time in every day when every desire of the body is checked. See if you can do it; and then as long as you can let the body go without listening to it, do so. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_7.htm A person might ask, 'Is, then, the secret of happiness in the way of the ascetics, in tormenting and torturing oneself as they have done for ages?' Even that does not give happiness. It is only a distraction from the worldly pleasures which produce illusion. The ascetic shuts himself up in order to have an opportunity of taking another direction. ... For even asceticism is not a happiness. It is only a means of self-discipline. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_IV_5.htm The nature of the mind is such that it creates a thought and throws it over for another thought to take its place. This being the nature of the mind, it makes it difficult for one to concentrate upon one object steadily. The mind of an average person may be pictured as an unruly horse that jumps and kicks and throws anyone that tries to ride it. Masters of the world are those who have mastered themselves, and mastery lies in the control of the mind. If the mind became your obedient servant, the whole world is at your service. The king of mind is greater than the king of a nation. ~~~ "Githa II, 'Amaliyyat 1", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) The fasting and abstinence and all these things were taught in order to develop the will power, which results in self-discipline and which is the secret of all mastery; and it is by this power that the kingdom within is attained. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_2.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Sep 27, 2022 10:12 pm It is when one has lost the idea of separateness and feels himself at one with all creation that his eyes are opened and he sees the cause of all things.
Bowl of Saki, September 27, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Every being and object which is distinctly separate may be called an entity, but what one calls an individual is a conception of our imagination; and the true meaning of that conception will be realized on the day when the ultimate truth throws its light upon life. On that day no one will speak about individuality; one will say 'God' and no more. There are many beings, but at the same time there is one, the only Being. Therefore objects such as streams and mountains are also living, but they only exist separately to our outer vision. When our inner vision opens then the separation is shown as a veil; then there is one vision alone, and that is the immanence of God. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_12.htm As soon as the soul begins to say 'I' he is exiled from heaven, for all blessings belong to the state which the soul experienced before he claimed to be 'I', a separate entity, separate from others. It is because of this that man, whatever his position, whatever his situation in life, is not fully happy. The trouble of one may perhaps be greater than that of another, but both he who resides in heavenly palaces and the inhabitant of a grass hut have their troubles; both have their pain. But man finds the reason for all afflictions in the life outside him. The Sufi finds it in that one sin: that of having claimed to be 'I'. With this claim came all the trouble, it continued, and it will always continue. This sin has such a hold upon the soul that it is just like the eclipse of the sun, when its light is covered and cannot shine. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XII/XII_I_5.htm There is an innate desire in every human being for knowledge. ... With man this desire is never satisfied. He always wants to know more. There is ever a restless craving within him for knowledge. This is because he does not look for the cause in the right way. He only sees the external causes, and not the cause underlying the cause, and below that, the primal cause. For example, a man who has become estranged from his friend only sees perhaps the superficial cause, and calls his friend unkind; or he may even admit that he himself is at fault, or he may go still deeper and say that owing to a certain planetary influence they cannot be friendly. Yet he has not probed the cause of this cause. ... For this reason the religions taught the God-ideal, that the primal cause might be sought through the pursuit of God. It is when man has lost the idea of duality and feels himself at one with all creation, that his eyes are opened and he sees the cause of everything. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_30.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Sep 30, 2022 04:02 am My favorite... After writing to Steve- I was inclined to read todays Saki. To my surprise, the knowledge in todays wisdom is exactly aligned with my thoughts and feelings in responding to Steve's thread on friendship: http://spiritualportal.net/index.php/topic,7676.msg37169.html#msg37169 making it particularly auspicious.
I hope those here read these words and feel a similar depth of gratitude in their hearts. The wise of all ages have taught that it is knowledge of the divine Being that is life, and the only reality. Bowl of Saki, September 29, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: If there is a kingdom of God to be found anywhere, it is within oneself. And it is, therefore, in the knowledge of self that there lies the fulfillment of life. The knowledge of self means the knowledge of one's body, the knowledge of one's mind, the knowledge of one's spirit; the knowledge of the spirit's relation to the body and the relation of the body to the spirit; the knowledge of one's wants and needs, the knowledge of one's virtues and faults; knowing what we desire and how to attain it, what to pursue and what to renounce. And when one dives deep into this, one finds before one a world of knowledge which never ends. And it is that knowledge which gives one insight into human nature and brings one to the knowledge of the whole of creation. And in the end one attains to the knowledge of the divine Being. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_IV_12.htm Religion is the school that has developed man, and the ideals that religion presents form a path that leads upward to perfection, that innate and yearning desire of every soul. ... The wise of all ages have taught that it is the knowledge of the Divine Being that is life, and the only reality. Although a human activity may have a number of complicated motives, some of which are base and gross, it is the aspiration towards divinity, the desire towards beauty, which is its soul, its life, and its reality. And it is in proportion to the degree of strength or weakness of his aspiration towards beauty that man's ideal is great or small, and his religion is great or small. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_II_4.htm ~~~ The wise of all ages have taught that it is knowledge of the divine Being that is life, and the only reality. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Oct 02, 2022 03:49 pm Yesterday was the first day of October! Here is the wisdom taking us into the new month. Happy October! :D
Each soul's attainment is according to its evolution. Bowl of Saki, October 1, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Opinion is an outcome of mind. It is an outburst of its reasoning and judging faculty. And so, according to the evolution of a particular mind, its opinion is. Opinions clash when two people of different stages of evolution express themselves. Therefore the wise are more reluctant to express their opinion, whereas for the unwise it is easy. A simpleton is only too glad to express his opinion uninvited. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_21.htm Everyone, consciously or unconsciously, is striving after spiritual attainment. Sometimes he does not take the same way as we do, sometimes his point of view and his method differ, and sometimes one person attains to spiritual realization much sooner than another. It may be reached in a day, and another person may have striven for it all his life and yet not have attained to it. What determines it? It is the evolution of a particular soul. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_4.htm Every step one takes in evolution changes one's ideal. In your stage, if you love a jasmine today, it is possible that in your next step in evolution you may have grown above it and you love a rose. And it is not necessary that you should keep to the jasmine when your evolution brings you to the love for the rose -- thus one is kept from progressing. ~~~ "Githa I, Sadhana 3" by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) To the question, "Are you a Christian?", "Are you a Muslim?", "Are you a Jew?", the Sufi's answer would be 'yes' rather than 'no', for the Sufi opposes no religion but sympathizes with all. In fact Sufism cannot be called a religion, for it does not impose either belief or principle upon anyone, considering that each individual soul has its own principles best suited for it, and a belief which changes with each grade of evolution. ... A Sufi does not dispute on spiritual subjects with everyone, for this reason: the spiritual evolution of each one differs from that of the other, the knowledge of one cannot be the knowledge of the other, nor is the understanding of one the understanding of the other. ... at every step in spiritual evolution a person's belief changes until one arrives at a final belief which words cannot explain. ~~~ "Gathekas for Candidates", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Oct 06, 2022 03:44 pm One can know truth... But how often do we exhibit it??? Todays message... Truth is simple... But man does not always care to acknowledge simplicity. We might know something, but are we living it?
Commentary: Truth is simple. But for the very reason that it is simple, people will not take it; because our life on earth is such that for everything we value, we have to pay a great price and one wonders, if truth is the most precious of all things, then how can truth be attained simply? It is this illusion that makes everyone deny simple truth and seek for complexity. Tell people about something that makes their heads whirl round and round and round. Even if they do not understand it, they are most pleased to think, 'It is something substantial. It is something solid. For, it is an idea we cannot understand, it must be something lofty.' But something which every soul knows, proving what is divine in every soul, and which it cannot help but know, that appears to be too cheap, for the soul already knows it. There are two things: knowing and being. It is easy to know truth, but most difficult to be truth. It is not in knowing truth that life's purpose is accomplished; life's purpose is accomplished in being truth. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_IV_13.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Oct 09, 2022 06:40 am I recently heard that sovereignty is synonymous with virtuous living. A nation that lacks in morality equally lacks in sovereignties. I believe this to be a true statement. In todays bowl of saki, HIK teaches us that those on the spiritual path who learn of virtue by means of a book or a religious persons- a monk or saint, their virtue holds no power. It is one thing to learn from a book and something else to bring from the depths of ones being. This lesson is similar to the one posed in the previous post. Unless we are practicing good charity, reading about it or learning it from a professed religious persons is of no use. It's better we practice with those in our immediate environment than cling to what we think we know- I read in the link below that the personality of the seeker is more pleasant than the one contented by what he knows.
We are quick to judge others from this realm of speculation, while remaining ever distant from living the ideals we find admirable. To practice we must remain open to others, take care not to harm our relationships, communicate admirably, admit error and seek resolutions. It means renouncing moments where our Ego would rather delight itself. When we think we know... One thing leads to another... and this lack or cold heartedness becomes evident in the larger body we call a nation. Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: What do I mean by love? It is such a word that one cannot give one meaning. All attributes like kindness, gentleness, goodness, humbleness, mildness, fineness, are names of one and the same thing. Love therefore is that stream which when it rises, falls in the form of a fountain, and each stream coming down is a virtue. All virtues taught by books or by a religious person have no strength and life because they have been learned; a virtue that is learned has no power, no life. The virtue that naturally springs from the depth of the heart, the virtue that rises from the love-spring and then falls as many different attributes, that virtue is real. There is a Hindustani saying, 'No matter how much wealth you have, if you do not have the treasure of virtue, it is of no use'. The true riches is the ever increasing spring of love from which all virtues come. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_2.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Oct 10, 2022 09:27 pm If you seek the good in every soul, you will always find it, for God is in all things; still more He is in all beings.
Bowl of Saki, October 10, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: We must learn to see the beauty, it is not everyone who sees it, often the critical spirit is occupied in gazing at the object which lacks beauty, the more you look for beauty, the more you see it as a whole. It is seeing the vision in part that deludes, you look at the side of a man's nature that may not be attractive, but if you will seek for good in everything, you will always find it, for God is in all things, and still more He is in all beings. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/archives/cupid.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Oct 12, 2022 04:52 pm Seek Him in all souls, good or bad, wise and foolish, attractive and unattractive; in the depths of each there is God. Bowl of Saki, October 12, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Oct 13, 2022 03:28 pm When in ourselves there is inharmony, how can we spread harmony?
Bowl of Saki, October 13, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: It is harmony which makes beauty; beauty in itself has no meaning. An object which is called beautiful at a certain place and time is not beautiful at another place or another time. And so it is with thought, speech and action: that which is called beautiful is only so at a certain time and under certain conditions which make it beautiful. So if one can give a true definition of beauty, it is harmony. ... The teaching of Christ, 'Resist not evil,' is a hint not to respond to inharmony. For instance, a word of kindness, of sympathy, an action of love and affection finds response, but a word of insult, an action of revolt or of hatred creates a response too, and that response creates more inharmony in the world. By giving way to inharmony one allows inharmony to multiply. At this time one sees in the world the greatest unrest and discomfort pervading all over. Where does it come from? It seems to come from ignorance of this fact that inharmony creates inharmony and will multiply inharmony. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_1_9.htm The wise in all ages have dived deep into life in order to attain unity in themselves, and in order to spread unity. In the life of the world every man has some complaint to make. He lacks something; he is troubled by something. But this is only the external reason; the real truth is that he is not in unity with his own soul, for when there is disharmony in ourselves how can we spread harmony? When mind and body are at war the soul wants something else, and soul and mind are pulled by the body, or the body and mind by the soul; and so there is disharmony. When a man is in harmony with himself, he is in harmony with all; he produces harmony and gives harmony to all, he gives it out all the time. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_1.htm ~~~ When in ourselves there is inharmony, how can we spread harmony? Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Nov 03, 2022 07:14 pm In one's search for truth, the first lesson and the last is love. There must be no separation, no "I am" and "thou art not". Until one has arrived at that selfless consciousness, he cannot know life and truth.
Bowl of Saki, November 3, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: When we look at this subject from a mystic's point of view, we see that love has two aspects. Love in itself, and the shadow of love fallen on the earth. The former is heavenly the latter is earthly. The former develops self-abnegation in a person; the latter makes him more selfish than he was before. Virtues such as tolerance, mercy, forgiveness and compassion rise of themselves in the heart which is awakened to love. The infirmities such as jealousy, hatred and all manner of prejudice begin to spring up when the shadow of love has fallen on the heart of the mortal. The former love raises man to immortality, the latter turns the immortal soul into a mortal being. A poet has said that the first step in love teaches selflessness, if it is not experienced then one has taken a step in the wrong direction, although one calls it love. For man has learned from the moment he was born on earth the words 'I am'. It is love alone that teaches him to say, 'Thou art, not I'. For no soul can love and yet affirm its own existence. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XI/XI_III_11.htm What the Sufi calls riyazat, a process of achievement, is nothing else than digging constantly in that holy land which is the heart of man. Surely in the depth man will find the water of life. However, digging is not enough. Love and devotion, no doubt, help to bring out frequent merits hidden in the soul, as sincerity, thankfulness, gentleness and forgiving qualities, all things which produce an harmonious atmosphere, and all things which bring men in tune with life, the saintly life and the outer life. All those merits come, no doubt, by kindling the fire of love in the heart. But it is possible that in this process of digging one may only reach mud and lose patience. So dismay, discontentment may follow and man may withdraw himself from further pursuit. It is patient pursuit which will bring the water from the depth of the ground; for until one reaches the water of life, one meets with mud in digging. It is not love, but the pretense of love, that imposes the claim of the self. The first and last lesson in love is, 'I am not -- Thou art' and unless man is moved to that selflessness he does not know justice, right or truth; his self stands above or between him and God. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_7.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Nov 03, 2022 10:13 pm “For no soul can love and yet affirm its own existence.” Strong medicine from the medicine man.
What the Sufi calls riyazat, a process of achievement, is nothing else than digging constantly in that holy land which is the heart of man. Surely in the depth man will find the water of life. However, digging is not enough. Love and devotion, no doubt, help to bring out frequent merits hidden in the soul, as sincerity, thankfulness, gentleness and forgiving qualities, all things which produce an harmonious atmosphere, and all things which bring men in tune with life, the saintly life and the outer life. All those merits come, no doubt, by kindling the fire of love in the heart. But it is possible that in this process of digging one may only reach mud and lose patience. So dismay, discontentment may follow and man may withdraw himself from further pursuit. It is patient pursuit which will bring the water from the depth of the ground; for until one reaches the water of life, one meets with mud in digging. It is not love, but the pretense of love, that imposes the claim of the self. The first and last lesson in love is, 'I am not -- Thou art' and unless man is moved to that selflessness he does not know justice, right or truth; his self stands above or between him and God. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_7.htm This takes discipline and patience! Shakespeare said; ‘assumes a virtue though you have it not.’ Someone that is attempting to be loving is better than no love at all. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Nov 10, 2022 03:10 am The eyes of the man who neglects his duty to his fellow men, absorbed in life's intoxication, will certainly become dazzled and his mind exhausted before the presence of God. It does not mean that any soul will be deprived of the divine vision, it only means that the soul who has not learned to open his eyes wide enough will have his eyes closed before the vision of God. All virtues come from a wide outlook on life, all understanding comes from the keen observation of life. Nobility of soul, therefore, is signified in the broad attitude that man takes in life.
https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_III_2.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Nov 10, 2022 07:14 pm Mastery lies not merely in stilling the mind, but in directing it towards whatever point you desire.
Bowl of Saki, November 10, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: The mind of an average person may be pictured as an unruly horse that jumps and kicks and throws anyone that tries to ride it. Masters of the world are those who have mastered themselves, and mastery lies in the control of the mind. If the mind became your obedient servant, the whole world is at your service. ~~~ "Githa Series II, Amaliyyat 1, Psychology ", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) He who does not direct his own mind lacks mastery. ... If there is any self of which one can say, 'This is man', it is the mind. The three Sanskrit words Mana, Manu, Manusha show that man is his mind, is the product of his mind, and is also the controller of the activity of mind. If he does not control his mind, he is not a master but a slave. It lies with his own mind whether he shall be master, or whether he shall be slave. He is slave when he neglects to be master; he is master if he cares to be master. Mastery lies not merely in stilling the mind, but in directing it towards whatever point we desire, in allowing it to be active as far as we wish, in using it to fulfill our purpose, in causing it to be still when we want to still it. He who has come to this has created his heaven within himself; he has no need to wait for a heaven in the hereafter, for he has produced it within his own mind now. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_16.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Nov 12, 2022 06:12 pm Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan:
When a person allows himself to be disturbed, that shows that his concentration is not good. And if his concentration is not good, that shows that his will power fails him. The best way, therefore, to protect oneself from disturbance is to develop the power of concentration, so that the will power develops naturally and one is able to withstand all the disturbances which arise when one has to live in the midst of the crowd. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IV/IV_29.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Dec 14, 2022 08:51 pm He who keeps no secrets has no depth in his heart.
Bowl of Saki, December 14, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: He who keeps no secret has no depth; his heart is like a vessel turned upside down. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/say/gayan_boulas.htm The secret of all attainment is centered in reserve. Spiritual or material, when a person has told his plans to others, he has let out the energy that he should have kept as a reservoir of power for the accomplishment of his object. ... The teaching, 'Be wise as a serpent,' may be interpreted, 'Be quiet as a serpent.' It is quietude that gives wisdom and power. The thought held in mind speaks to the mind of another, but the thought spoken out most often only reaches the ears of a person. Every plan has a period of development; and if man has power over his impulse, by retaining the thought silently in mind, he allows the plan to develop and to take all necessary changes that it may take for its culmination. But when the impulse expresses the thought, it so to speak 'puts out the flame,' thus hindering the development of the plan. The wise speak with their mind many times before they speak about it to anybody. ~~~ "Githa I, Sadhana 7, The Path of Attainnment", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) I say, "Without the control over your lips you will not be able to develop inspiration." As a poet has said, "When the shell closes its lips, then the pearl develops in it." ... the more you are able to keep your secret in your heart, the greater you become. You have more weight, your personality becomes more reliable, more dependable. As it is said in Vadan that it is best to say something without saying. ~~~ "Sangatha II, Secrecy on the Path of Truth", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) As soon as a person thinks, 'I am more,' the doors of knowledge are closed. He will no more be able to widen his knowledge because automatically, the doors of his heart are closed the moment he says, 'I know.' Spiritual knowledge, the knowledge of life, is so intoxicating, so exalting, it gives such a great joy, that one begins to pour out one's knowledge before anyone who comes along as soon as this knowledge springs up. But if at that time the disciple could realize that he should conserve that kindling of the light, reserve it, keep it within himself and let it deepen, then his words would not be necessary and his presence would enlighten people. As soon as the spring rises and he pours forth what comes out of that spring in words, although on the one side his vanity will be satisfied, on the other side his energy will be exhausted. The little spring that had risen, he has poured out before others and he remains without power. This is why reserve is taught to the true disciple, the conserving of inspiration and power. The one who speaks is not always wise; it is the one who listens who is wise. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_2_8.htm The more one knows the secret of the world the more one feels inclined to keep it secret. And the more one keeps secret what one knows the more life unfolds its secrets to one. ... it must be remembered that the power of the body is nothing in comparison with the power of the mind. And the power of the one who keeps a secret is greater than the power of the giant who lifts a mountain. All that one holds is preserved, all that one lets go is dispersed. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_20.htm ~~~ He who keeps no secrets has no depth in his heart. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jan 01, 2023 06:01 pm Happy New Year ~ 2023, We welcome you... Mother Earth and Father God grant us this opportunity to discover our true Self in Joy and Gratitude ~
As water in a fountain flows as one stream, but falls in many drops divided by time and space, so are the revelations of the one stream of truth. Bowl of Saki, January 1, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: In a fountain there is a big stream which flows up and then breaks into many drops. The stream is like the divine will, and the different drops like the wills in us. One drop goes higher, another lower, one falls to the left, another to the right, one goes north, another south. But the source of all this activity is one; it is one thing that turns into so many, scattering in all directions. Thus from unity there has come variety. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_5.htm Different methods called religions and philosophies have been adopted by different nations at various periods. Though the form and teachings of the several religions appear so unlike, their source is one and the same. But from the very beginning the differences have created prejudice, envy, and antagonism between man. Such dissensions occupy a large portion of the histories of the world and have become the most important subject in life. So many castes and so many creeds, So many faiths, and so many beliefs, All have arisen from ignorance of man, Wise is he who only truth conceives. A wise man realizes that the fundamental basis of all religions and beliefs is one: Haqq, or truth. ... Those who see the truth uncovered abandon reason and logic, good and bad, high and low, new and old; differences and distinctions of names and forms fade away, and the whole universe is realized as nothing other than Haqq. Truth in its realization is one; in its representation it is many, since its revelations are made under varying conditions of time and space. As water in a fountain flows in one stream but falls in many drops, divided by time and space, so are the revelations of the one stream of truth. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_1.htm Prayer for New Year, by Hazrat Inayat Khan O Thou who abidest in our hearts, most Merciful and Compassionate God, Lord of Heaven and Earth, we forgive others their trespasses and ask Thy forgiveness of our shortcomings. We begin the New Year with pure heart and clear conscience, with courage and hope. Help us to fulfil the purpose of our lives under Thy divine guidance. ~~~ As water in a fountain flows as one stream, but falls in many drops divided by time and space, so are the revelations of the one stream of truth. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jan 14, 2023 02:55 am Do not limit God to your virtue. He is beyond your virtues, O pious ones!
Bowl of Saki, January 13, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: There is no such thing as impossible. All is possible. Impossible is made by the limitation of our capacity of understanding. Man, blinded by the law of nature's working, by the law of consequences which he has known through his few years life on earth, begins to say, 'This is possible and that is impossible.' If he were to rise beyond limitations, his soul would see nothing but possible. And when the soul has risen high enough to see all possibility, that soul certainly has caught a glimpse of God. ~~~ "Githa II, Sadhana 3", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) Many have been resentful towards God for having sent them misery in their lives, but misery is always part of life's experience. Some may become very angry and say, 'This is not just', or 'This is not right, for how could God who is just and good allow unjust things to happen?' But our sight is very limited, and our conception of right and wrong and good and evil is only our own, and not according to God's plan. It is true that as long as we see it as such, it is so for us and for those who look at it from our point of view; but when it comes to God the whole dimension is changed, the whole point of view is changed. It is for this reason that the wise in all ages, instead of trying to judge the action of God, have so to speak put aside their sense of justice for the time being; and they have tried to learn one thing only, and that was resignation to the will of God. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIIIa/VIIIa_2_2.htm The Being of God is recognized by His attributes. Therefore man speaks of God as the just God. He sees all power, all goodness in God; but when the situation is changed, when he sees God as injustice, he begins to think that God is powerless, and to judge the action of God. But one must look at this from a different point of view. Human beings are limited, imperfect, and yet we try to judge the perfect Being, or His perfect action, from our own imperfect standpoint. In order to judge, our vision must become as wide as the universe; then we might have a slight glimpse of the justice, which is perfect in itself. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_9.htm ~~~ Do not limit God to your virtue. He is beyond your virtues, O pious ones! Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jan 17, 2023 04:21 am To learn to adopt the standard of God, and to cease to wish to make the world conform to one's own standard of good, is the chief lesson of religion.
Bowl of Saki, January 16, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: When people came to Christ accusing a person of doing wrong, the Master could not think of anything else but forgiveness. For he did not see in the wrongdoer what the others saw. To distinguish between right and wrong is not the work of an ordinary mind, and the curious thing is that the more ignorant a person is, the more ready he is to do so. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIIIa/VIIIa_2_2.htm The religious man full of dogmas is often apt to make these too rigid and he expects the godly or God-conscious to fit in with his standard of goodness. If they do not fit in with his particular idea of piety he is ready to criticize them. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_19.htm Every mind has its particular standard of good and bad, and of right and wrong. This standard is made by what one has experienced through life, by what one has seen or heard; it also depends upon one's belief in a certain religion, one's birth in a certain nation and origin in a certain race. But what can really be called good or bad, right or wrong, is what comforts the mind and what causes it discomfort. It is not true, although it appears so, that it is discomfort that causes wrongdoing. In reality, it is wrongdoing which causes discomfort, and it is right-doing which gives comfort. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_17.htm The discrimination between good and evil is in man's soul. Every man can judge that for himself, because in every man is the sense of admiration of beauty. ... Happiness only lies in thinking or doing that which one considers beautiful. Such an act becomes a virtue or goodness. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_31.htm ~~~ To learn to adopt the standard of God, and to cease to wish to make the world conform to one's own standard of good, is the chief lesson of religion. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Feb 26, 2023 04:48 pm Will meditation, union with God and the struggle with self and Self lead to an elevated state free from the stirrings of passion?
Todays medicine... As one rises above passion, so he begins to know what is love. Bowl of Saki, February 26, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: To an angelic soul love means glorification To a jinn soul love means admiration To a human soul love means affection To an animal soul love means passion. One need not fall in love, one must rise through love. Pour out floods of love, yet keeping your garment of detachment from being wet. ... To what does the love of God lead? It leads to that peace and stillness which can be seen in the life of the tree which flowers and bears fruit for others and expects no return. ... A person who is able to help others should not hide himself but do his best to come out into the world. 'Raise up your light high', it is said. All that is in you should be brought out, and if the conditions hinder you, break through the conditions! from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_5.htm He who says, 'I love you but only so much; I love you and give you sixpence but I keep sixpence for myself; I love you but I stand at a distance and never come closer, we are separate beings' -- his love is with his self. As long as that exists, love has not done its full work. Love accomplishes its work when it spreads its wings and veils one's self from one's own eyes. That is the time when love is fulfilled. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_2_22.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Feb 27, 2023 06:54 pm Believe in God with childlike faith; for simplicity with intelligence is the sign of the Holy Ones.
Bowl of Saki, February 27, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: The question arises: what is the manner of opening the heart? The way to it is a natural life, the life of the child, smiling with the smiling one, praying with the praying one, ready to learn from everyone, ready to love. The child has enmity against no one, he has no hatred, no malice, his heart is open. It is in the child that you can see the smiles of angels; he can see through life. When the grown-up person is made ready, when he has acquired the attributes of the child, then he creates heaven within himself, he understands. The child with his innocence does not understand, but when a person with understanding develops the childlike loving tendency, the purity of heart of the child with the desire to be friendly to all -- that is the opening of the heart, and it is by that blessing that he can receive all the privileges of human life. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_1.htm ... truth is simple. The more simple you are and the more you seek for simplicity, the nearer you come to truth. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_2_8.htm I remember the blessing my spiritual teacher, my murshid, used to give me every time I parted from him. And that blessing was, 'May your Iman be strengthened.' At that time I had not thought about the word Iman. On the contrary I thought as a young man, is my faith so weak that my teacher requires it to be stronger? I would have preferred it if he had said, may you become illuminated, or may your powers be great, or may your influence spread, or may you rise higher and higher, or become perfect. But this simple thing, may your faith be strengthened, what did it mean? I did not criticize but I pondered and pondered upon the subject. And in the end I came to realize that no blessing is more valuable and important than this. For every blessing is attached to a conviction. Where there is no conviction there is nothing. The secret of healing, the mystery of evolving, the power of all attainments, and the way to spiritual realization, all come from the strengthening of that belief which is a conviction, so that nothing can ever change it. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_30.htm We read in the Vadan, 'Simplicity is the living beauty.' Mankind today has made life so complex that whatever one seeks after, one wants to find in complexity. All things in life which have importance, beauty and value are simple; and simplest of all things is the divine truth. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_35.htm ~~~ Believe in God with childlike faith; for simplicity with intelligence is the sign of the Holy Ones. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Mar 15, 2023 04:43 am God is truth, and truth is God.
Bowl of Saki, March 14, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Many intellectual people, with their various ideas, differ from one another in their opinions and in their way of looking at things, in their speculations, but do the prophets differ from one another? No, they cannot differ. The reason is that it is the various minds which differ, not the souls. The one who lives in his mind, is conscious of his mind; the one who lives in his soul is conscious of the soul. ... When a person is living in his mind, he is living through the darkness of the night. The moment he rises above his mind and awakens in the light of the soul he becomes spiritual. And if a thousand spiritual people speak, they will say the same thing, perhaps in different words but with only one meaning, for they have one and the same vision. This is why spiritual realization is called the truth. There are many facts but only one truth. The facts can be put into words but not the truth, for God is truth, the soul is truth, the real self of man is truth. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_29.htm We generally confuse truth with fact, and we often use the word fact for truth. When we look at it from the mystic's point of view we find that words are too intricate ever to explain what is truth. ... Truth is that which cannot be pointed out, because all things that can be compared have their opposite, but neither God nor truth has an opposite. Names are to point out forms, and words are to distinguish one thing from another, while definitions come from the pairs of opposites or at least from differences. That which is all-pervading and is in all things and beings, that which every word explains and yet no word can explain, is God and is truth. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_7.htm The seeker after truth goes out into the world and he finds innumerable different sects and religions. He does not know where to start. Then he desires to find out what is hidden under these sects, these different religions, and he begins to seek the object which he wishes to gain through wisdom. Wisdom is a veil over truth, even wisdom cannot be called truth. God alone is truth, and it is truth that is God. And truth can neither be studied nor taught nor learned; it is to be touched, it is to be realized; and it can be realized by the unfoldment of the heart. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_33.htm Truth is one, God is one, life is one. To me there is no such thing as two. Two is only one plus one. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/bio/Biography_11.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 15, 2023 10:33 am Today I was eating my bowl of champions and later turned to a bowl of Saki for dessert. It was filled with truth. However I asked my truth finder how to find the truth and he appeared to have the answer to just seek it . But will he tell me how that is to be done or should I just eat a bowl of saki with my bowl of champions every day and be hopefully fulfilled ?
And so I eat some more dessert from the bowl 🥣 of saki and I find ; In one's search for truth, the first lesson and the last is love. There must be no separation, no "I am" and "thou art not". Until one has arrived at that selfless consciousness, he cannot know life and truth. I find a few more helpful tidbits yet still only morsels in an attempt to devour the ‘truth’. And having not yet been satisfied, I continue wondering where I will find this truth the bowl of saki has been talking about. I am happy to be inspired and like the teachings of Jesus and other Masters of their day, we are not able to ask them for such answers today and need to find our answers many times in our own lives. So I sit down again this morning, asking Khan how he found such truth and love as I enter daily meditation. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Mar 16, 2023 05:29 pm Seems to me like that's something you come to feel and know compared to any mental chatter produced from chewing one too many champi-O's. May your meditations produce compassionate and grateful disposition.
At every step of evolution, one's realization of God changes. Bowl of Saki, March 16, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: There is a time when toys are treasures. But the child who cries for a toy comes to an age when he gives it away. And at every step in a man's evolution the values of power and position and wealth change in his eyes. And so as he evolves there arises in him a spirit of renunciation which may be called the Spirit of God. Gradually he recognizes the real value of those fair and lovely qualities of the spirit that change not. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_II_15.htm Every step in evolution makes life more valuable. The more evolved you are, the more priceless is every moment; it becomes an opportunity for you to do good to others, to serve others, to give love to others, to be gentle to others, to give your sympathy to souls who are longing and hungering for it. Life is miserable when a person is absorbed in himself. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_1.htm In selfishness there is an illusion of profit, but in the end the profit attained by selfishness proves to be worthless. Life is the principal thing to consider, and true life is the inner life, the realization of God, the consciousness of one's spirit. When the human heart becomes conscious of God it turns into the sea and it spreads; it extends the waves of its love to friend and foe. Spreading further and further it attains perfection. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_2_15.htm The one who in the shrine of his heart has seen the vision of God, the one who has the realization of truth, can only smile, for words can never really explain what truth means. The nearest explanation one can give is that truth is realization. At every step of man's evolution his realization changes, but there is a stage where man arrives at the true realization, a realization which is a firm conviction that no reason or logic can change or alter. Nothing in the world can change it any more, and that conviction is called by the Sufis Iman. The realization which is attained is that there is nothing to realize any more. The process of this attainment is a sincere research into truth and life, and the understanding of 'what I am the other is', together with the contemplation of God, a selfless consciousness, and a continual pursuit after the receiving of the knowledge of God. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_7.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 17, 2023 04:00 am 🦹🏼
👐🏽 🔥 Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Mar 17, 2023 03:53 pm Verily, he is victorious who has conquered himself.
Bowl of Saki, March 17, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Our greatest enemy is ourself. All weakness, all ignorance keeps us from the truth of our being, from all the virtues hidden in us and all perfection hidden in our souls. The first self we realize is the false self. Unless the soul is born again it will not see the kingdom of heaven. The soul is born into the false self; it is blind. In the true self the soul opens its eyes. Unless the false self is fought with, the true self cannot be realized. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_5.htm The soul is a bird of paradise, a free dweller in the heavens. Its first prison is the mind, then the body. In these it becomes not only limited, but also captive. The whole endeavor of a Sufi in life is to liberate the soul from its captivity, which he does by conquering both mind and body. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_45.htm If a man has control over himself, he will smile and be patient even if he is exposed to rages a thousand times. He will just wait. He who has spiritual control has great control; but he who has it not can control neither spiritual nor physical events. He cannot control his own sons and daughters, for he never listens to himself first. If he listened to himself, not only persons but even objects would listen to him. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_14.htm There is a poem by the great Persian poet Iraqi in which he tells, 'When I went to the gate of the divine Beloved and knocked at the door, a voice came and said -- Who art thou?' When he had told, 'I am so and so', the answer came, 'There is no place for anyone else in this abode. Go back to whence thou hast come'. He turned back and then, after a long time, after having gone through the process of the cross and of crucifixion, he again went there -- with the spirit of selflessness. He knocked at the door; the word came, 'Who art thou? ', and he said, 'Thyself alone, for no one else exists save Thee'. And God said, 'Enter into this abode for now it belongs to thee'. It is such selflessness, to the extent that the thought of self is not there, it is being dead to the self, which is the recognition of God. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_2_22.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Apr 01, 2023 05:12 pm Happy April 1st, 2023! April Fools is a great way to humble our ego, remembering that life doesn't have to be so serious. We can transmute the hate into joy, the fear into laughter. And, the bowl of saki is also a fantastic ego-humbler! When one praises the beauty of God, one's soul is filled with bliss. Bowl of Saki, April 1, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: "Why does God need praise from me? Who am I that I should offer Him praise?" True, we can never praise Him enough; never can our praise be sufficient, but our souls are blessed with the impression of the Glory of God whenever we praise Him. The soul could praise God every moment and yet wanting to praise Him yet more, it is constantly hungering and thirsting to find the Beauty and Perfection of God. By the praise of God the soul is filled with bliss; even to utter the name of God is a blessing that can fill the soul with light, joy and happiness as nothing else can do. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/archives/prayer.htm There is a necessity for praise in prayer, praise of the beauty of God, for man must learn to recognize and praise the beauty of God as manifested in all His creation. In this way he impresses beauty on his soul, and he is able to manifest it in himself, and he becomes the friend of all and is without prejudice. For this reason the Sufi cultivates his heart. The emblem of the Sufi is a heart between two wings, meaning that when the heart is cultivated man can soar up into the heights of heaven. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_34.htm The only secret of attaining happiness is to learn how to appreciate our privileges in life. If we cultivate that sense of appreciation we shall be thankful, we shall be contented and every moment we shall offer our thanks to God, for His gifts are many and enormous. When we do not see them it is because our wants cover our eyes from seeing all with which we are blessed by Providence. No meditation, no study, nothing can help in that direction, except one thing, and that is to keep our eyes open to appreciate every little privilege in life, to admire every glimpse of beauty that comes before us, being thankful for every little love, kindness or affection shown to us by young or old, rich or poor, wise or foolish. In this way, continually developing the faculty of appreciating life and devoting it to thanksgiving, we arrive at a bliss which no words can explain, a bliss which is beyond imagination: the bliss that we find ourselves having already entered the kingdom of God. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_39.htm The two important things in life are the praise of God and the pursuit of God. The praise of God is important, and it gives bliss in life, but it is not the real attainment. The all-important work in life is the attainment of God. God cannot be explained. Any attempt to do this always ends in failure. The knowledge of Him can only be attained in the silence and in solitude, and how to do this cannot be explained better than in the words of the Urdu poet Zahir, 'He who attaineth best the peace of God, his very self must lose.' from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_38.htm ~~~ When one praises the beauty of God, one's soul is filled with bliss. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Apr 21, 2023 04:23 pm The soul is first born into the false self, it is blind; in the true self the soul opens its eyes.
Bowl of Saki, April 21, by Hazrat Inayat Khan "The lions could not harm Daniel because of the harmony of his will with the universal Will. The lions represent the destructive elements in the human mind. They represent wars, disappointments, rivalries, jealousies, envy, passions, and so forth, in different horrible guises. Our ego is the lion of lions, and if this is conquered, then these external lions -- different egos around us -- are conquered also, and wherever we go, with anyone, whether foolish or wise, good or bad, we now have peace." from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_5.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Apr 26, 2023 03:12 pm Every moment has its special message.
Bowl of Saki, April 26, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Every step in evolution makes life more valuable. The more evolved you are, the more priceless is every moment; it becomes an opportunity for you to do good to others, to serve others, to give love to others, to be gentle to others, to give your sympathy to souls who are longing and hungering for it. Life is miserable when a person is absorbed in himself; as soon as he forgets himself he is happy. The more he thinks of himself, his own affairs, work and interests, the less he knows the meaning of life. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_1.htm If we only understood that every moment in life, every day, every month, and every year, has its particular blessing; if we only knew life's opportunity! But the greatest opportunity that one can realize in life is to accomplish that purpose for which man was sent on earth. And if he has lost that opportunity, then whatever he may have accomplished in the world, whether he has gathered wealth, possesses much property, or has made a great name for himself, he will not be satisfied. Once one's eyes are opened and they begin to look at the world, they will find there is a greater opportunity than they had ever thought before. Man is as poor as he is, as limited as he is, as troubled as he is; yet there is nothing in this world which could not be accomplished by man if he only knew what thought can do. It is ignorance which keeps a person from what they ought to accomplish. One should know how to operate his thought, how to accomplish certain things, how to focus the mind on the object that should be accomplished. If one does not know, then he has not made use of his mind but has lived like a machine. If people knew the power of feeling, and realized that the power of feeling can reach anywhere and penetrate anything, they could achieve whatever they might wish. ... Every person is a captive in some form or other; one's life is limited in some form or other; but one could get above this limitation by realizing the latent power and inspiration of the soul. Kabir, the great poet of India says, 'Life is a field and you are born to cultivate it. And if you know how to cultivate this field you can produce anything you like. All the need of your life can be produced in this field. All that your soul yearns after and all you need is to be got from the field, if you know how to cultivate it and how to reap the fruit.' But if this opportunity is only studied in order to make the best of life by taking all that one can take and by being more comfortable, that is not satisfying. We must enrich ourselves with thought, with that happiness which is spiritual happiness, with that peace which belongs to our soul, with that liberty, that freedom, for which our soul longs; and attain to that higher knowledge which breaks all the fetters of life and raises our consciousness to look at life from a different point of view. Once a person has realized this opportunity, they have fulfilled the purpose of Life. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_16.htm ~~~ Every moment has its special message. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Apr 27, 2023 12:36 pm I’m happy to see Hazrat Khan expresses the same idea here as I have in the past about ‘old souls’. Regardless if you know your amount of evolution/ old soul status you remain with that state of awareness until you have become more evolved or have regressed in your state of evolution. Anyone can be living and not have an awareness of how long they have been on this earth or for that matter how many times they have been here. But as long as we are in time we do measure times existence. Once beyond time there obviously would no longer be the necessity to measure times existence.
Sometimes it is an accomplishment to feel good about ourselves and recognize that we have succeeded in our souls evolution and that perhaps we no longer need to be treated badly or bullied by the ignorance of others in their treatment of us when in fact we may just be attempting to help them. Eric; I have only placed this text here because I would like you to know that many times I respond to your thread here I have responded at other places as well that apply to what Hazrat Khan has said. Every moment has its special message. Bowl of Saki, April 26, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Every step in evolution makes life more valuable. The more evolved you are, the more priceless is every moment; it becomes an opportunity for you to do good to others, to serve others, to give love to others, to be gentle to others, to give your sympathy to souls who are longing and hungering for it. Life is miserable when a person is absorbed in himself; as soon as he forgets himself he is happy. The more he thinks of himself, his own affairs, work and interests, the less he knows the meaning of life. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_1.htm If we only understood that every moment in life, every day, every month, and every year, has its particular blessing; if we only knew life's opportunity! But the greatest opportunity that one can realize in life is to accomplish that purpose for which man was sent on earth. And if he has lost that opportunity, then whatever he may have accomplished in the world, whether he has gathered wealth, possesses much property, or has made a great name for himself, he will not be satisfied. Once one's eyes are opened and they begin to look at the world, they will find there is a greater opportunity than they had ever thought before. I just don't think old souls exist, and these definitions are all temporary meant to help the individual feel good about themselves or provide some clarity or drive where understanding is needed. We've exhibited "young soul" and "old soul" behavior in a single lifetime- thanks for resurrecting this thread, it was nice to find mccoy saying the same thing- it would appear him and I agree. And, as I wrote in the other post, How old would I be if I didn't know how old I am? The concept of old would then become meaningless and I'd be timeless. Not young, nor old, just existing. Like your musings. We still would be aware of the body transforming and its limitations as time unfolded. ... wonder if you would tell us more about your experiences while here in the states? And tell us how our two cultures may be different. You are welcome to chat about it anywhere you prefer. It’s just nice to have you back again here for awhile and wonder about you and your life. My prayers recently always include you. I respectfully disagree with your assessment about others. To say, "if someone is inordinately interested in ones age means they have no understanding about old souls" has not been true with my personal experience. Personally I don't believe "old souls" actually means anything. The phrase old soul is a bit of a misunderstanding if you really think about it. Neither having been born or having ever really died, how can being ageless make you old? Yogananda once described tapping into something as, "ever-new bliss." Is that the real nature of our Soul? I think labels will always be to the benefit for SELF and the intimate journey with it. I think it's important to make the distinction because people are so forgetful of their true nature- so ready to identify with the physical body and its little pings and tingles- they forget their larger body, the all encompassing One... That's where I'm at in life. Personally, I don't care to humor others who think themselves old souls or young souls... I look at it as all Soul and all a part of the journey. God Bless <3 Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Apr 29, 2023 02:52 pm This is a good one...
When souls meet each other, what truth they can exchange! It is uttered in silence, yet always surely reaches its goal. Bowl of Saki, April 29, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Truth comes to man's soul, and yet truth is not the exclusive property of creed, caste, or race. We are all the children of God, the Father-Mother Spirit of all that exists. And we ought to have such a feeling of brotherhood that we exchange helpful thoughts with one another all the time. We can take love and guidance from one another. Speech is not as great a help as contact; but the privilege of meeting one another is great. When souls meet, what truth they can exchange! It is uttered in silence, yet surely always reaches its goal. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_14.htm In everyday life we are confronted with a thousand troubles that we are not always evolved enough to meet, and then only silence can help us. For if there is any religion, if there is any practice of religion, it is to have regard for the pleasure of God by regarding the pleasure of man. The essence of religion is to understand. And this religion we cannot live without having power over the word, without having realized the power of silence. There are so very many occasions when we repent after hurting friends, which could have been avoided if there had been control over our words. Silence is the shield of the ignorant and the protection of the wise. For the ignorant does not prove his ignorance if he keeps silent, and the wise man does not throw pearls before swine if he knows the worth of silence. What gives power over words? What gives the power that can be attained by silence? The answer is: it is will-power which gives the control over words; it is silence which gives one the power of silence. It is restlessness when a person speaks too much. The more words are used to express an idea, the less powerful they become. It is a great pity that man so often thinks of saving pennies and never thinks of sparing words. It is like saving pebbles and throwing away pearls. An Indian poet says, 'Pearl-shell, what gives you your precious contents? Silence; for years my lips were closed.' For a moment it is a struggle with oneself; it is controlling an impulse; but afterwards the same thing becomes a power. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IV/IV_34.htm Every race and every creed has its principles of right and wrong, but there is one fundamental principle of religion in which all creeds and all people can meet, and that is to see beauty in attitude, in action, in thought, and in feeling. There is no action with a stamp on it saying that it is right or wrong, but what we think wrong or wicked is really that which our mind sees as such because it is without beauty. All the great ones who have come into the world from time to time to awaken humanity to a greater truth, what did they bring? They brought beauty. It is not what they taught, it is what they were themselves. Words seem inadequate to express either goodness or beauty. One can speak of it in a thousand words, and yet one will never be able to express it. For it is something which is beyond words, and the soul alone can understand it. And the one who will always follow the rule of beauty in his life, in every little thing he does, will always succeed. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_24.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on May 02, 2023 12:19 am Happy May 1st :)
You can have all good things - wealth, friends, kindness, love to give and love to receive - once you have learned not to be blinded by them, learned to escape from disappointment, and from repugnance at the idea that things are not as you want them to be. Bowl of Saki, May 1, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Do not expect much from friends. Why must they be as you want them to be? They are not made by you. They are as they are. You must try to be for them what they expect you to be. It matters little if your friend proves to you to be a friend. What matters is, if you prove to be a friend. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XII/XII_III_1.htm However evolved we may be with our education and experience, yet what are we really seeking? Things from which we cannot derive any lasting gain. From these false things we gain the experience that the things to which we have hitherto attached importance and which we have valued are things that do not last. We learn at length that it would be wise to remember that all these objects and ideals and aspirations which we have in life should be judged according to whether they are dependable or not, lasting or not. After we have perceived the truth that this or that is not to be depended upon, we find that it is not necessary to renounce them all, to give up everything in life. We can be in the crowd just as well as in seclusion in the wilderness. We can have all good things, wealth, friends, kindness, love to give and love to take once we have learned not to be blinded by them, learned to escape from disappointment, learned to escape from repugnance at the idea that the things are not as we would want them to be. A man can still attend to business, he may attain wealth, he can carry out all those things, but now his eyes are wide open; before, they were blind. This is the teaching of life. ... It is not the actual literal renunciation which counts, it is the personal abandonment of belief in the importance of transient things. ... If there is such a thing as saintly renunciation, it is renouncing small gains for better gains; not for no gains, but seeing with open eyes what is better and what is inferior. Even if the choice has to lie between two momentary gains, one of these would always be found to be more real and lasting; that is the one that should be followed for the time. When we take the torch of wisdom to show us our path through life, we will end by realizing what is really profitable in life and what is not. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_15.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on May 06, 2023 05:10 am Those who have given deep thoughts to the world are those who have controlled the activity of their minds.
Bowl of Saki, May 5, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: He is thoughtful whose mind is directed by his will, whose mind fulfills his intentions, whose mind is under the control of his intention. ... Only those who have controlled the activity of their minds have given deep thoughts to the world. Those whose minds are working mechanically like a machine, or just reflecting the activity of those around them, may appear to be living beings, but the mystic would say differently; for it is not till a person has gained mastery over his mind, till he is above this activity, that he is a ruling power, a true person. When we think about it, we find that all the things that are accomplished in this world are accomplished by the power of mind. ... Whatever man creates in science, in art, in phenomena or wonder making, in poetry, in music, in pictures, in everything that he brings into being, is all achieved by the power of mind. ... If he does not control his mind, he is not a master but a slave. It lies with his own mind whether he shall be master, or whether he shall be slave. He is slave when he neglects to be master; he is master if he cares to be master. Mastery lies not merely in stilling the mind, but in directing it towards whatever point we desire, in allowing it to be active as far as we wish, in using it to fulfill our purpose, in causing it to be still when we want to still it. He who has come to this has created his heaven within himself; he has no need to wait for a heaven in the hereafter, for he has produced it within his own mind now. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_16.htm People pursue spirituality with their brain: that is where they are mistaken. Spirituality is attained through the heart. What do I mean by the heart? Is it the nervous center in the midst of the breast, the small piece of flesh that doctors call the heart? No, the definition of the heart is that it is the depth of the mind, the mind being the surface of the heart. That in us which feels is the heart, that which thinks is the mind. It is the same thing which thinks and feels, but the direction is different: feeling comes from the depth, thought from the surface. When thought is not linked with feeling it is just like a plant rising up from the earth, the root of which has not gone deep. A thought without feeling is a powerless thought; it is just like a plant without a deep root. A tree the root of which has gone deep into the earth is stronger, more reliable, and so the thought deeply rooted in the heart has greater power. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_2_8.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on May 07, 2023 02:01 am Unity in realization is far greater than unity in variety.
Bowl of Saki, May 6, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: What keeps the soul in perplexity is the threefold aspect of manifestation, and as long as the soul remains puzzled by this, it cannot arrive at the knowledge of the One. These three aspects are the seer, sight, and the seen; the knower, knowledge, and the known. In point of fact these are three aspects of life. One aspect is the person who sees; the second aspect is the sight, or the eyes, by the help of which he sees; and the third aspect is that which he sees. That is why one cannot readily accept the idea that what one sees is the same as oneself, nor can one believe for a moment that the medium by which one sees is oneself, for these three aspects seem to be separate and to be looking at one another's faces, as the first person, second person, and third person of Brahma. When this riddle is solved by the realization that the three are one, then the purpose of the God-ideal is fulfilled. For then the three veils which cover the One are lifted, then they no longer remain three, and then they are found to be One, the Only Being. As Abdul Karim al Jili, the fifteenth-century mystic, says, 'If you believe in one God, you are right; if you believe in two Gods, that is true; but if you believe in three Gods, that is right also, for the nature of unity is realized by variety.' from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_10.htm Man's thought has a great power. And when he comes to the realization that everything comes from one source and that everything is developing towards one goal, he begins to see that the source and the goal are God. Then the world of variety is no longer variety to him but unity; it is one. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IV/IV_29.htm The power is in unity, but is lost in variety. Thus, for instance, if we hold a thing in our hand, we can hold it with strength, because all five fingers have united to hold the object. But if we try to lift it by one finger, this one finger may drop it, even though the finger belongs to the same hand. In all aspects of life unity is power. All religions show that power is in unity. This is the secret of philosophy. There are two aspects of unity: firstly, the unity of variety; secondly, unity realizing itself. One is earthly, the other is heavenly. One cannot serve two masters. Unity is the only source of happiness. Unity in realization is far greater than unity in variety. 'When two hearts unite, they can break even mountains.' As two fuse in love, the more does intuition grow, the more does one understand whether the other is happy, or pleased, or displeased, whatever distance may separate them. This is nothing but just the unity of the one person with the other. It is clairvoyance. The mother knows the condition of her son at the battlefront. She can see him in her dreams. Hearts, which are united in love, perceive the state of mind of the loved ones. They do not have to study mysticism or concentration, for they have natural concentration. The mother does not pretend to meditate; love teaches her more meditation than a person who pretends to study it can attain. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_18.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on May 14, 2023 02:49 pm The wisdom and justice of God are within us, and yet they are far away, hidden by the veil of the limited self.
Bowl of Saki, May 14, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Whenever wars have occurred, whenever there has been bloodshed in the world, whenever there have been revolutions and upheavals in life, all the various disasters that have taken place are due to these same causes: on the one side man's selfishness, and on the other his lack of understanding of the law of nature and the law of happiness. Our limited self is like a wall separating us from the Self of God. God is as far away from us as that wall is thick. The wisdom and justice of God are within us, and yet they are far away under the covering of the veil of the limited self. Whoever has arrived at that realization of the nature of God's justice is able to see all things in a different way from others. His whole outlook on life becomes different. ... Man has now become cold, ignorant, and blind to the law that life depends on the happiness of those with whom we live. The whole of life is one. In all these different names and manifestations life is one. The true thought is, 'If my wife is not happy, if my children, my neighbors, my servants are not happy, how can I ever be happy?' An insult given to someone will one day return. How simple it is. Yet how difficult for man to understand! It is simple to him who observes life keenly. It is difficult to him who is absorbed in himself. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_23.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on May 21, 2023 03:47 pm The realization that the whole life must be "give and take" is the realization of the spiritual truth and the fact of true democracy; not until this spirit is formed in the individual can the whole world be elevated to the higher grade.
Bowl of Saki, May 21, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: A child should know the moral of give and take; it must know that it should give to others what it wishes to receive from them. The great fault of humanity today is that everyone seeks to get the better of others, by which one is often caught in one's own net. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_I_5.htm The mystic learns ... that life is give and take. It is not only that one receives what one gives, but also one gives what one receives. In this way the mystic begins to see the balance of life. He realizes that life is a balance, and if the gain or loss, the joy or pain of one outweighs that of another, it is for the moment, but in time it all sums up in a balance, and without balance there is no existence possible. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_5.htm Real spiritual democracy we see in Jesus Christ. According to their law, some of the theologians and Pharisees wished to accuse the people who had sinned, but he told them to let him who had never sinned throw the first stone. That was the outlook of democracy. In that, Christ suggested that human nature was everywhere. ... However humble and low a person may be in occupation and evolution, we are none the less interdependent and require his help and service as he needs ours. However much wealth or power or rank we possess, we still depend upon the humblest and poorest person in the world. The realization that the whole of life must be give and take, is the realization of the spiritual truth and the fact of true democracy. Not until this spirit is formed in the individual himself can the whole world be raised to a higher grade of evolution. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_24.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on May 28, 2023 03:22 pm The control of self means the control of everything.
Bowl of Saki, May 28, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Self-control is the most necessary thing to be learned; a person may have great spirituality, illumination and piety, but in the absence of self-control this is nothing. Self-control also is the way of happiness and peace. ... No thought or feeling should arise without our will. When we have gained mastery over the self, we have mastery over all things. ... Self-control is an attribute which distinguishes man from the animal; both have their appetites and passions, but it is man alone who can control them. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_1_14.htm The control of the self means the control of everything. What does it mean when we see a person fail time after time, or another person succeed time after time? It is just a matter of holding the reins of our affairs in our hands. When there is no rein there is failure. Failure means that there has been lack of self-control, whether it is a failure in affairs or in health. Illness always comes when a person has lost the control of the self. It is because this is the main theme of metaphysics that Hatha Yoga has been considered of the greatest value. All the miracles and all the wonders that have ever been known in this world have been done by those who have been able to control themselves by abstinence, and therefore to control life. However much was said upon this subject, it would still not express it. To begin with a person is puzzled by it, and he wonders whether he should believe it or not. That is why in the East the adepts never speak of their experiences in the spiritual life. They only tell their disciples to lead it and practice for years. 'That will make it clear to you', they say. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_30.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jun 01, 2023 03:37 pm Happy June!!!
Good morning Spiritual Portal! :) The sun is rising and it is officially June 1st. I have a very special feeling about this month. One that is a great potential for spiritual development or personal growth. I think even in the midst of worldly drama, this rings especially true for June 2023. We can operate from a place of peace in the midst of chaos. It's available for every Heart. We are all a unique expression of God, come to BE/experience and witness in our uniqueness at this time for the totality of creation. I whole-heartedly believe this idea. Well, here's a little taste from our wine of wisdom! One's bodily appetites take him away from his heart's desires; his heart's desires keep him away from the abode of his soul. Bowl of Saki, June 1, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: There are two parts in man. One part is his external self, which the soul has borrowed from the earth; and the other part is his real self, which belongs to his Source. In other words an individual is a combination of spirit and matter, a current which runs from above and attracts to it the earth from below, shaping it in order to make it a vehicle. The human body is nothing but a vehicle of the soul which has come from above and has taken the human body as its abode. Thus an individual has two aspects of being: one is the soul, the other is the body. ... Whether he is in the forest or amidst the world's strife, the soul of man is always capable of rising to the greatest heights, if only he wishes to attain to them. ... Man does not need to trouble about what is lacking outside, for in reality all is within himself. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_31.htm The soul cannot see itself; it sees what is round it, it sees that in which it functions; and so it enjoys the comforts of the shell which is around it, and experiences the pains and discomforts which belong to the shell. And in this way it becomes an exile from the land of its birth, which is the Being of God, which is divine Spirit; and it seeks consciously or unconsciously once again the peace and happiness of home. God therefore is not the goal but the abode of the soul, its real self, its true being. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_III_2.htm Plato wrote that we live in a shadow world, where we confuse the shadow of ourselves with reality. This is the Nafs, the false ego, which stands in the light before God, causing, so to speak, a spiritual eclipse. ... The Nafs turns us from the One to the many, enticing us with the things of this world. Then man attaches himself to one thing after another, which brings, at best, momentary satisfaction. Through his spiritual practices the Sufi learns to chain the Nafs, to perceive that it is only a shadow of reality; and finding the sun of truth within his being, looking upon it, one is no longer aware of the shadow. Then the Nafs is not destroyed, but harnessed. The whole of man's being is attuned to God and everything within him serves God. ~~~ "Githa II, Dhyana 2", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) The one and only thing that hinders man from advancing spiritually, or at least from advancing towards the goal for which he is destined and which he is longing to attain, is this: that the mind is so absorbed by the demands and wants of the physical body that it has hardly a moment to give itself entirely to the reflection of the light of the soul. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_22.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jun 04, 2023 12:58 am The more elevated the soul, the broader the outlook.
Bowl of Saki, June 3, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Attitude is the principal thing in life. It is not the conditions in life which change life for us, but mostly it is our attitude toward life and its conditions upon which depends our happiness or unhappiness. ... The attitude becomes high and broad when one looks at life from a higher point of view. When the point of view is not high, the range of man's sight becomes limited; man becomes narrow in his outlook on life, and in his feelings, thought, speech and action the same is expressed. Why is God pointed out on high, toward the sky? Why not toward the earth, for God is everywhere? The reason is that within the range of God's sight the whole universe stands as a little grain of corn, as to one that flies in the balloon and looks down from high the whole city comes within the range of his sight, when he stands on earth he sees no further than the four walls which keep the whole world covered from his sight. What does it mean to become spiritual, or godly? It means to have a higher view of life, to look at life from a higher point of view. It is the high point of view in life which ennobles the soul. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_21.htm The eyes of the man who neglects his duty to his fellow men, absorbed in life's intoxication, will certainly become dazzled and his mind exhausted before the presence of God. It does not mean that any soul will be deprived of the divine vision, it only means that the soul who has not learned to open his eyes wide enough will have his eyes closed before the vision of God. All virtues come from a wide outlook on life, all understanding comes from the keen observation of life. Nobility of soul, therefore, is signified in the broad attitude that man takes in life. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_III_2.htm The process of spiritual development is an expansion, and this expansion is brought about by the widening of the outlook. The outlook depends upon the attitude of mind. If a mind is focused to thinking of small things, then this process of widening the outlook will not be completed. ... Spiritual progress is the lifting of the consciousness in order that the consciousness may expand to perfection. Therefore it is a continual work of trying to look into a wider sphere. By this attitude a person, without learning to be spiritual, will naturally become spiritual; his outlook on life will become different. Little things that people take to heart will seem to him of little importance; things that people become confused with will become clear to him; things that matter so much to everyone will not matter to him. Many things that frighten and horrify people will not have the same effect upon him; disappointments and failures will not take away his hope and courage. His thought, speech and action, as his outlook becomes wide, so everything he says or does will be different. What we call nobleness, that natural nobleness which belongs to the soul, will blossom. ~~~ "Sangatha I, Ta'lim", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jun 06, 2023 03:57 pm We blame others for our sorrows and misfortunes, not perceiving that we ourselves are the creators of our world.
Bowl of Saki, June 6, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jun 06, 2023 04:46 pm We blame others for our sorrows and misfortunes, not perceiving that we ourselves are the creators of our world. Bowl of Saki, June 6, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Just had a small de ja vu when I read this quote; the flip side of this equation is how do we evaluate our joys and fortunes? Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jun 08, 2023 04:45 am Nobody appears inferior to us when our heart is kindled with kindness and our eyes are open to the vision of God.
Bowl of Saki, June 7, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: We are so situated in life that whatever position we may occupy we are never independent, we are never self-sufficient. Therefore, every individual depends upon others for help, and others depend upon him for help; only the position of the person who is one among many who receive help becomes lower in the eyes of those who count themselves among the few who can help. This makes every person a master as well as a servant. Yet everyone, in the intoxication of his mastership, forgets his place as a servant, and looks upon the one who helps him as his servant. The wise, whose feelings are awakened, think on this question deeply, and do their best to avoid every possibility of giving even an idea to a servant of his servantship, far less insulting him in any way or hurting his feelings. We are all equal, and if we have helpers to serve us in life we ought to feel humble and most thankful for the privilege, instead of making the position of the servant humble. ... One cannot commit a greater sin than hurting the feelings of the one who serves us and depends upon our help. Once the Prophet heard his grandson call a servant by his name. On hearing this he at once said to his grandson, 'No, child, that is not the right way of addressing elders. You ought to call him 'uncle.' It does not matter if he serves us, we are all servants of one another, and we are equal in the sight of God.' There is a verse of Mahmud-i Ghaznavi: 'The Emperor Mahmud, who had thousands of slaves to wait on his call, became the slave of his slaves when love gushed forth from his heart.' Nobody appears inferior to us when our heart is kindled with kindness and our eyes are open to the vision of God. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_III_4.htm As Christ teaches, 'Whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.' What does all this teach us? It is all a lesson in sympathy for one's fellow man, to teach us to share in his troubles, in his despair. For whoever really experiences this joy of life, finds that it becomes so great that it fills his heart and his soul. It does not matter if he has fewer comforts or an inferior position than many in this world, because the light of his kindness, of his sympathy, of the love that is growing, the virtue that is springing up in his heart, all fill the soul with light. There is nothing now that he lacks in life, for he has become the king of it. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_1.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jun 16, 2023 05:08 pm Row, row, row your boat Every experience on the physical, astral or mental plane is just a dream before the soul. Bowl of Saki, June 16, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jul 02, 2023 06:08 pm One must first create peace in himself if he desires to see peace in the world; for lacking peace within, no effort of his can bring any result.
Bowl of Saki, July 2, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jul 12, 2023 03:47 pm He who can quicken the feeling of another to joy or to gratitude, by that much he adds to his own life.
Bowl of Saki, July 12, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jul 17, 2023 04:44 pm We should be careful to take away from ourselves any thorns that prick us in the personality of others.
Bowl of Saki, July 17, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: We frequently say, 'I dislike him,' 'I wish to avoid her,' but if we examine this carefully, we find it is the same element in all that we dislike, the ego. And when we turn to ourselves to see if we have it in us, we find it is there too. We should forget it, therefore, in other people, and first turn our attention to crushing it within ourselves. We should determine to have our house clean even if other people neglect theirs. We should be careful to take away from ourselves any thorns that prick us in the personality of others. There is a verse in the Quran, which says, 'Arise in the midst of the night, and commune with thy Lord... Bear patiently what others say.' This is not only a command to rise in the night and pray, but it also means that by rising in the night we crush the ego, for the ego demands its rest and comfort, and when denied, is crushed. The mystics fast for the same reason. The Sufis base the whole of their teaching on the crushing of the ego which they term Nafs-kushi, for therein lies all magnetism and power. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_27.htm For every soul there are four stages to pass through in order to come to the culmination of the ego, which means to reach the stage of the rose. The first stage is that a person is rough, thoughtless and inconsiderate. He is interested in what he wants and in what he likes; as such he is naturally blind to the needs and wants of others. In the second stage a man is decent and good as long as his interests are concerned. As long as he can get his wish fulfilled he is pleasant and kind and good and harmonious; but if he cannot get his wish and cannot have his way, then he becomes rough and crude and changes completely. And there is a third stage, when someone is more concerned with another person's wish and desire, and less with himself; when his whole heart is seeking for what he can do for another. In his thought the other person comes first and he comes afterwards. That is the beginning of turning into the rose. It is only a rosebud, but then in the fourth stage this rosebud blooms in the person who entirely forgets himself in doing kind deeds for others. In Sufi terms the crushing of the ego is called Nafs Kushi. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_40.htm ~~~ We should be careful to take away from ourselves any thorns that prick us in the personality of others. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jul 22, 2023 01:30 am This is a great read... It makes me feel appreciation for God, who dances this experience we call Life with us... Guiding us along our Journey, teaching us and never abandoning us.
God is great. A study of life is the greatest of all religions, and there is no greater or more interesting study. Bowl of Saki, July 21, by Hazrat Inayat Khan There are two ways in which we may attain control over our activity. The first is confidence in the power of our own will; to know that if we have failed today, tomorrow we will not do so. The second is to have our eyes wide open, and to watch keenly our activity in all aspects of life. It is in the dark that we fall, but in the light we can see where we are going. So it is in life: we should have our eyes wide open to see where we walk. We should study life, and seek to know why we say a thing, and why we act as we do. We have failed perhaps hitherto because we have not been wide awake. We have fallen, and felt sorry, and have forgotten all about it, and perhaps may have fallen again. This is because we have not studied life. A study of life is the greatest of all religions, and there is no greater and more interesting study. Those who have mastered all grades of activity, they above all experience life in all its aspects. They are like swimmers in the sea who float on the water of life and do not sink. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_36.htm If we only knew how much the study of life can tell us! One could go into the British Museum and read every book in the building, and yet not obtain satisfaction. It is not study, it is not research, it is not inquiry which gives this knowledge; it is actually going through the experiences of life, witnessing life in its different aspects and in its different phases or spheres; that is what reveals the ideal of life. ... Look not on life as a person would watch a play on the stage. Rather look upon it as a student who is learning at college. It is not a passing show; it is not a place of amusement in which to fool our life away. It is a place for study, in which every sorrow, every heartbreak brings a precious lesson. It is a place in which to learn by one's own suffering, by the study of the suffering of others; to learn from the people who have been kind to us as well as from the people who have been unkind. It is a place in which all experiences, be they disappointments, struggles, and pains, or joys, pleasures, and comforts, contribute to the understanding of what life is, and the realization what it is. Then do we awake to the religion of nature, which is the only religion. And the more we understand it, the greater our life becomes, and the more of a blessing will our life be for others. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_2.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Aug 11, 2023 10:27 pm It is simpler to find a way to heaven than to find a way on earth.
Bowl of Saki, August 11, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Aug 17, 2023 03:37 pm Love is the current coin of all peoples in all periods.
Bowl of Saki, August 17, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Love has its time at every stage of life. As a child, as a youth, as an adult, whatever stage of life one has reached, love is always asked for and love always has its part to perform. Whatever situation we are placed in, amongst friends or foes, amongst those who understand us or amongst those who do not, in ease or in difficulty, in all places at all times, it has its part to perform. The one who thinks, 'I must not let the principle of love have its way, I must harden myself against it', imprisons his soul. There is only one thing in the world that shows the sign of heaven, that gives the proof of God, and that is pure, unselfish love. For all the noble qualities which are hidden in the soul will spring forth and blossom when love helps them and nurtures them. Man may have a great deal of good in him and he may be very intelligent; but as long as his heart is closed, he cannot show that nobleness, that goodness which is hidden in his heart. The psychology of the heart is such that once one begins to know it, one realizes that life is a continual phenomenon. Then every moment of life becomes a miracle; a searchlight is thrown upon human nature and all things become so clear that one does not ask for any greater phenomenon or miracle; it is a miracle in and of itself. What one calls telepathy, thought reading, or clairvoyance, and all such things, come by themselves when the heart is open. If a person is cold and rigid, he feels within himself as if he were in a grave. He is not living, he cannot enjoy this life for he cannot express himself and he cannot see the light and life outside. What keeps man from developing the heart quality? His exacting attitude. He wants to make a business of love. He says, 'If you will love me, I will love you.' As soon as a man measures and weighs his favors and his services and all that he does for one whom he loves, he ceases to know what love is. Love sees the beloved and nothing else. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_3_4.htm The great teachers and prophets, and the inspirers of humanity of all times have not become what they were by their miracles or wonder-workings; these belong to other people. The main thing that could be seen in them was their loving manner. Read the lives of the prophets. First of all see the way Jesus Christ had with all those who came to him. When sinners who were condemned and expelled by society were brought to the master, he received them with compassion. ... One may ask: How to cultivate the heart quality? There is only one way: to become selfless at each step one takes forward on this path, for what prevents one from cultivating the loving quality is the thought of self. The more we think of our self the less we think of others, and as we go further the self grows to become worse and worse. In the end the self meets us as a giant which we had always fought; and now at the end of the journey the giant is the stronger. But if from the first step we take on the path of perfection we struggled and fought and conquered this giant which is the self, it could be done only by the increasing power of love. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_2.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Aug 18, 2023 06:00 pm Do not take the example of another as an excuse for your own wrongdoing.
Bowl of Saki, August 18, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Aug 23, 2023 05:01 am One is living whose sympathy is awake, and one is dead whose heart is asleep.
Bowl of Saki, August 22, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Life's light is love; and when the heart is empty of love, a man is living and yet not living; from a spiritual point of view he is dead. When the heart is asleep, he is as though dead in this life, for one can only love through the heart. But love does not mean give and take. That is only a trade; it's selfishness. To give sixpence and receive a shilling is not love. Love is when one loves for the sake of love, when one cannot help but love, cannot do anything but love. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_30.htm Most people will say, 'The other does not understand me.' But why must there be this lack of understanding? What causes it? It is lack of sympathy. No words can ever make a person understand. It is the heart alone which can convey its full meaning to the other heart, for there are subtle waves of sympathy, there are delicate perceptions of feelings such as gratefulness, admiration, kindness, which cannot be put into words. Words are too inadequate to explain the finer feelings. It is the heart quality which can express itself fully, and again it is the heart quality which can understand fully. Would it therefore be an exaggeration to say that as long as the heart is not awakened a man is as though dead? It is after the awakening of the heart that a man begins to live. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XI/XI_II_12.htm Sympathy is an awakening of the love element, which comes on seeing another in the same situation in which one has been at some time in one's life. A person who has never experienced pain cannot sympathize with those suffering pain... Sympathy is something more than love and affection, for it is the knowledge of a certain suffering which moves the living heart to sympathy. That person is living whose heart is living, and that heart is living which has wakened to sympathy. The heart void of sympathy is worse than a rock, for the rock is useful, but the heart void of sympathy produces antipathy. ... There are many attributes found in the human heart which are called divine, but among them there is no greater and better attribute than sympathy, by which man shows in human form God manifested. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_21.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Aug 24, 2023 05:11 pm Put your trust in God for support and see His hidden hand working through all sources.
Bowl of Saki, August 24, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: The one thing to rely upon is God's favor. Do not build either on your study or on your meditation, although they both help you. But you are dependent on God, not even on your murshid. Seek Him, trust Him. In Him lies your life's purpose, and in Him is hidden the rest of your soul. ~~~ "Classes for Mureeds, Mureedship", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) How refreshing, to see a human who has been regarded as a master instruct others not to rely on him but to rely on God alone. This is a mark of wisdom and a true teacher. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Aug 27, 2023 04:19 pm The soul of Christ is the light of the universe.
Bowl of Saki, August 27, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Truth is the soul of religion. When Jesus came to earth he did not say, 'I have brought you a new religion never heard of by you or your ancestors.' He said he had not come to give a new law but to fulfill the law; in other words, 'I have come to continue giving you that which you have received before and have not understood.' There are scriptures that mankind regards as religious scriptures, but imagine how little of that message a book can contain, and how much more must have been given that was never written in a book! If books were sufficient, then the book of Abraham or the earlier books that were kept as scriptures could be sufficient, but it was not the book. The messenger, whenever he came, came to give the life, the living spirit, the divine light that can shine like the sun during the day, so that no soul with the slightest spark of sincerity could ever doubt the truth and unity of the message. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_29.htm The divine message has always been sent through those fitly endowed. For instance when wealth was esteemed the message was delivered by King Solomon; when beauty was worshipped, Joseph, the most handsome, gave the message; when music was regarded as celestial David gave his message in song. When there was curiosity about miracles Moses brought his message. When sacrifice was highly esteemed Abraham gave the message. When heredity was recognized, Christ gave his message as the Son of God. When democracy was necessary, Muhammad gave his message as the Servant of God, one like all and among all. ... All Masters from the time of Adam till the time of Muhammad have been the one embodiment of the Master-ideal. When Jesus Christ is represented as saying, 'I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end,' it is not meant that either the name or the visible person of Jesus Christ is the Alpha and Omega, but the Master-spirit within. It was this spirit which proclaimed this, moved by its realization of past, present, and future life, confident of its eternity. It is the same spirit which spoke through Krishna, saying, 'We appear on earth when Dharma is corrupted,' which was long before the coming of Christ. During his divine absorption Muhammad said, 'I existed even before this creation and shall remain after its assimilation.' In the holy traditions it is said, 'We have created thee of Our light and from thy light We have created the universe.' This is not said of the external person of Muhammad as known by this name. It refers to the spirit which spoke through all the blessed tongues and yet remained formless, nameless, birthless and deathless. But the blind world, absorbed in its phenomena and impressed by a certain name and form, has clung to the name, forgetting the true being. It is this ignorance which has divided the children of men into so many divisions and separated one from the other by their own delusions: whereas in reality there exists one religion and one single Master, the only God. ... There has been one Teacher only, and He alone will be. All the names which the world has fought over, are His names, and all the physical forms that have won the adoration of the truth-seeking world are His forms. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/I/I_I_2.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Aug 31, 2023 05:04 am The giver is greater than the gift.
Bowl of Saki, August 30, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Human beings living in their shells are mostly unaware of the privilege of life and so are unthankful to the Giver of it. In order to see the grace of God man must open his eyes and raise his head from his little world. Then he will see -- above and below, to the right and the left, before and behind -- the grace of God reaching him from everywhere in abundance. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_2_6.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Aug 31, 2023 03:08 pm One who has spent has used; one who has collected has lost; but one who has given has saved his treasure forever.
Bowl of Saki, August 31, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: The tendency to doubt, to be depressed, the tendency towards fear, suspicion and confusion, the tendency to puzzle -- where does it all come from? It all comes from the thought of getting something in return: 'will another give me back what I have given him? Shall I get the just portion back, or less?' if that is the thought behind one's acts there will be fear, doubt, suspicion, puzzle and confusion. For what is doubt? Doubt is a cloud that stands before the sun, keeping it from shining its light. So is doubt: gathering around the soul it keeps its light from shining out, and man becomes confused and perplexed. Once selflessness is developed, it breaks through the cloud saying, 'What do I care whether anyone appreciates it; I only know to give my service, and that is all my satisfaction. I do not look forward to get it back. I have given and it is finished; this is where my duty ends.' That person is blessed, because he has conquered, he has won. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Sep 09, 2023 05:42 pm Love is the divine Mother's arms; when those arms are spread, every soul falls into them.
Bowl of Saki, September 9, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: The Sufis of all ages have been known for their beautiful personality. It does not mean that among them there have not been people with great powers, wonderful powers and wisdom. But beyond all that, what is most known of the Sufis is the human side of their nature: that tact which attuned them to wise and foolish, to poor and rich, to strong and weak -- to all. They met everyone on his own plane, they spoke to everyone in his own language. What did Jesus teach when he said to the fishermen, 'Come hither, I will make you fishers of men?' It did not mean, 'I will teach you ways by which you get the best of man.' It only meant: your tact, your sympathy will spread its arms before every soul who comes, as mother's arms are spread out for her little ones. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_15.htm Mystics of all ages have not been known for their miraculous powers or for the doctrines they have taught, but for the devotion they have shown throughout their lives. The Sufi in the East says to himself, Ishq Allah Ma'bud Allah, which means 'God is Love, God is the Beloved', in other words it is God who is Love, Lover, and Beloved. When we hear the stories of the miraculous powers of mystics, of their great insight into the hidden laws of nature, of the qualities which they manifested through their beautiful personalities, we realize that these have all come from one and the same source, whether one calls it devotion or whether one calls it love. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XI/XI_III_11.htm Once four little girls were disputing. One said, 'My mother is better than yours.' The second girl said, 'My mother is better than your mother.' So, they were arguing and being quite disagreeable to one another. But someone who was passing by said to them, 'It is not your mother or their mother, it is the mother who is always the best. It is the mother quality, her love and affection for her children.' This is the point of view of the mystic in regard to the divine ideal. The moral principle of the mystic is the love principle. He says, 'The greater your love, the greater your moral. If we are forced to be virtuous according to a certain principle, a certain regulation, certain laws or rules, then that is not real virtue. It must come from the depths of our heart; our own heart must teach us the true moral.' Thus the mystic leaves morality to the deepening of the heart quality. The mystic says that the more loving someone's heart is, the greater is his morality. There is no greater teacher of morals than love itself, for the first lesson that one learns from love is, 'I am not, you are.' This is self-denial, self-abnegation, without which we cannot take the first step on love's path. One may claim to be a great lover, to be a great admirer, to be very affectionate, but it all means nothing as long as the thought of self is there, for there is no love. But when the thought of self is removed then every action, every deed that one performs in life, becomes a virtue. It cannot be otherwise. A loving person cannot be unjust, a loving person cannot be cruel. Even if what he does seems wrong in the eyes of a thousand people, it cannot be wrong in reality. In reality, it will be right, for it is inspired by love. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_1.htm ~~~ Love is the divine Mother's arms; when those arms are spread, every soul falls into them. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Sep 10, 2023 05:10 am This story about fighting over whose Mother is better is the same as fighting over whose God is the true God.
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Sep 13, 2023 02:50 pm The only way to live in the midst of inharmonious influences is to strengthen the will power and endure all things, yet keeping fineness of character and nobility of manner together with an everlasting heart full of love.
Bowl of Saki, September 13, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Many seek protection from all hurting influences by building some wall around themselves. But the canopy over the earth is so high that a wall cannot be built high enough, and the only thing one can do is to live in the midst of all inharmonious influences, to strengthen his will power and to bear all things, yet keeping the fineness of character and a nobleness of manner together with an ever-living heart. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_14.htm To say, 'You are different and I am different, your religion is different and my religion is different, your belief is different and my belief is different,' will not unite, it will only divide humanity. Those who, with the excuse of their great faith in their own religion, hurt the feelings of another and divide humanity which has the same source and goal, abuse religion, whatever be their faith. The message, at whatever period it came to the world, did not come just to a certain section of humanity; it did not come to raise only some few people who perhaps accepted the faith, the message, or a particular organized Church. No, all these things came afterwards. The rain does not fall in a certain land only; the sun does not shine only on a particular country. All that comes from God is for all souls. If they are worthy, they deserve it; it is their reward; if they are unworthy, they are the more entitled to it. Verily, blessing is for every soul; for every soul, whatever be his faith or belief, belongs to God. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_2.htm When a person begins to see all goodness as being the goodness of God, all the beauty that surrounds him as the divine beauty, he begins by worshipping a visible God, and as his heart constantly loves and admires the divine beauty in all that he sees, he begins to see in all that is visible one single vision; all becomes for him the vision of the beauty of God. His love of beauty increases his capacity to such a degree that great virtues such as tolerance and forgiveness spring naturally from his heart. Even things that people mostly look upon with contempt, he views with tolerance. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_9.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Sep 18, 2023 04:23 pm Can we forgive ourselves for our downfalls? Maybe our relationships are here solely to address our inner world. And maybe the world around us is the state of our consciousness
Todays message: Love has its limitations when it is directed towards limited beings, but love directed to God has no limitations. Bowl of Saki, September 18, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: If someone limits his love to a single object, saying, 'I only love this and there is nothing else I need', surely he has not the right kind of love either. True love is limitless. Though it begins by being limited in such a way, yet it progresses and some day breaks out. ... To speak of the jealous God means that the unlimited force of love cannot allow its expression to be directed towards one limited object. That is why the love of God alone is the culmination of love, for love is as vast as God. Verily, love itself is God. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_9.htm The individual soul is a shoot that springs from the all-pervading Spirit, its goal being its origin; and every attachment it has on its way is, no doubt, a detaining on the journey. The soul is never fully satisfied so long as it has not reached its destination. The love of the external world is a rehearsal before the performance, which is the love of God, the Inner Being. ~~~ "Sangatha II, 1 - Tasawwuf", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) Man can love another human being, but by the very fact of his loving another human being he has not got the full scope. To express all the love that is there, he must love the unlimited God. One admires all that is beautiful in color, tone, or form; but everything beautiful has its limitations; it is only when one rises above limitations that one finds that perfection which is God alone. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_9.htm As we give all things they come back to us through Love. The more we give, the more comes back. Love has its limitations when it is directed to limited beings, but love that is directed to God has no limitations, God alone deserves all love, and the freedom of Love is in giving it to God. ~~~ "Sangatha III, 30 - Ta'lim", by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished) Love for one person, to whatever depth it may have reached, is limited. Perfection of love lies in its vastness. 'The tendency of love is to expand, even from one atom to the whole universe, from a single earthly beloved to God.' When love is for the human being it is primitive and incomplete, and yet it is needed to begin with. He can never say, 'I love God,' who has no love for his fellow man. But when love attains its culmination in God, it reaches its perfection. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_22.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Sep 28, 2023 01:41 am It is when one has lost the idea of separateness and feels himself at one with all creation that his eyes are opened and he sees the cause of all things.
Bowl of Saki, September 27, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Every being and object which is distinctly separate may be called an entity, but what one calls an individual is a conception of our imagination; and the true meaning of that conception will be realized on the day when the ultimate truth throws its light upon life. On that day no one will speak about individuality; one will say 'God' and no more. There are many beings, but at the same time there is one, the only Being. Therefore objects such as streams and mountains are also living, but they only exist separately to our outer vision. When our inner vision opens then the separation is shown as a veil; then there is one vision alone, and that is the immanence of God. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_12.htm As soon as the soul begins to say 'I' he is exiled from heaven, for all blessings belong to the state which the soul experienced before he claimed to be 'I', a separate entity, separate from others. It is because of this that man, whatever his position, whatever his situation in life, is not fully happy. The trouble of one may perhaps be greater than that of another, but both he who resides in heavenly palaces and the inhabitant of a grass hut have their troubles; both have their pain. But man finds the reason for all afflictions in the life outside him. The Sufi finds it in that one sin: that of having claimed to be 'I'. With this claim came all the trouble, it continued, and it will always continue. This sin has such a hold upon the soul that it is just like the eclipse of the sun, when its light is covered and cannot shine. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XII/XII_I_5.htm There is an innate desire in every human being for knowledge. ... With man this desire is never satisfied. He always wants to know more. There is ever a restless craving within him for knowledge. This is because he does not look for the cause in the right way. He only sees the external causes, and not the cause underlying the cause, and below that, the primal cause. For example, a man who has become estranged from his friend only sees perhaps the superficial cause, and calls his friend unkind; or he may even admit that he himself is at fault, or he may go still deeper and say that owing to a certain planetary influence they cannot be friendly. Yet he has not probed the cause of this cause. ... For this reason the religions taught the God-ideal, that the primal cause might be sought through the pursuit of God. It is when man has lost the idea of duality and feels himself at one with all creation, that his eyes are opened and he sees the cause of everything. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_30.htm ~~~ It is when man has lost the idea of separateness and feels himself at one with all creation that his eyes are opened and he sees the cause of all things. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Nov 24, 2023 07:57 pm God is within you; you are His instrument, and through you He expresses Himself to the external world.
Bowl of Saki, November 24, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: In reality God is within man; man is the instrument of God and through him God experiences the external world. Prayer is the way of conveying the God within to the God without; and thought, speech and gesture make the prayer complete. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/archives/prayer.htm The words 'within oneself' might confuse some people. They might think 'within oneself' means inside one's body; but that is because man is ignorant of himself. Man has a very poor idea of himself, and this keeps him in ignorance of his real self. If man only knew how large, how wide, how deep, how high is his being, he would think, act, and feel differently; but with all his width, depth, and height, if man is not conscious of them he is as small as he thinks himself to be. The essence of milk is butter, the essence of the flower is honey, the essence of grapes is wine, and the essence of life is wisdom. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_34.htm For the secret of all knowledge that one acquires in the world, whether worldly knowledge or spiritual knowledge, is the knowledge of the self. For instance, music is played outside, but where is it realized? It is realized within. A good word or a bad word is spoken outside, but where is it realized? It is realized within. Then where is the realization of this whole manifestation, all this creation that stands before us in all its aspects? Its realization is within. And at the same time the error of man always continues. Instead of finding it within he always wants to find it without. It is just like a man who wants to see the moon and looks for it on the ground. And if a man sought for thousands of years for the moon by looking on the earth, he will never see it. He will have to lift up his head and look at the sky. And so with the man who is in search of the mystery of life outside; he will never find it. For the mystery of life is to be found within. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/II/II_24.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Nov 27, 2023 10:18 pm Quote As long as in love there is "you" and "me", love is not fully kindled. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/III/III_III_5.htmBowl of Saki, November 27, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: There are three stages of morals. The first stage is the moral of reciprocity. This moral is natural to the one who sees the difference between himself and another, who recognizes every man as such and such. The second stage is the law of beneficence, where man, recognizing himself as an entity separate from others and recognizing others as distinct entities themselves, yet sees a cord of connection running through himself and all, and finds himself as a dome in which rises an echo of good and evil; and in order to have a good echo he gives good for good and good for evil. But the third stage is the moral of renunciation, where the difference of 'mine' and 'thine' and the distinction of 'I' and 'you' fade away in the realization of the one Life that is within and without, beneath and beyond; and that is the meaning of the verse in the Bible, 'In Him we live, and move, and have our being.' After an honest assessment, I believe I am entering the second stage described above. Still the beginning stages of the second, where I struggle with Ego and with doing what's right. What stage do you find yourself in? Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Nov 27, 2023 11:40 pm In my case I often think my morals do not reflect those of ‘higher’ morals so I struggle to understand what to me seem arbitrary rules or laws established by others or a higher being. Im not sure 🤔 that even gives me a place on the scale established above. In some ways though I feel an affinity for all the conditions Inayat Khan established above also though.
It is interesting Eric when I was really young I separated people and ideas into black and white categories; what was right was right and what was wrong was wrong; but over the years I have found there are not so easily defined categories for people and conditions. I think it would be more correct to say; I have an amoral view about morality, although when the Masters have something to say about it, I do listen and it does influence many of my decisions on how to behave, even though I may not agree or want to behave they way I’m required. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Nov 28, 2023 02:49 am Thanks Steve.
I admire your willingness to provide a thoughtful reply. I'm at a stage where I have to shut my self up and recognize the greater good. I really like this second stage where he says giving good for good and good for evil. Not evil for evil. Having such challenging dynamics in my family house hold, it's easy to call ugly behavior evil. But it isn't. It's easy to hold on to a spiteful attitude towards those who behave disrespectfully or cold heartedly towards you. But I have witnessed first hand, just shortly after sharing this, the benefit of giving good for evil. The effects are so liberating... Not just for parties directly involved, but for the environment too. It's like a widening effect on my soul, a deeper understanding and a lightening ones load. What attracts me to HIK as a Master, or masters in general- is their ability to remain nestled in divine realization no matter the circumstance. To be in a crowd, amongst your peers, sharing your living space with someone, your family- strangers, in personal and intimate relationships. It's one thing to be a hermit and believe you are a zen master, it's another thing to be in a city or among all the different attitudes- through joy and suffering, able to see the true self no matter the challenges. Usually the challenges are because we are identified with the ego, whereas the Masters are identified with the Soul. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Nov 29, 2023 05:25 am Once you have given up your limited self willingly to the Unlimited, you will rejoice so much in that consciousness that you will not care to be small again.
Bowl of Saki, November 28, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: If you ask someone to say where he is, he will point at his arm, his hand, his body. He knows little beyond that. There are many who if asked, 'But where do you think you are in your body?' will say, 'In my brain.' They limit themselves to that small physical region which is called body, thus making themselves much smaller than they really are. The truth is that man is one individual with two aspects, just like one line with two ends. If you look at the ends, it is two. If you look at the line, it is one. One end of the line is limited, the other end of the line is unlimited. One end is man, the other end is God. Man forgets that end, and knows only the end of which he is conscious. And it is the consciousness of limitation which makes him more limited. Otherwise he would have far greater means of approaching the Unlimited which is within himself, which is only the other end of the same line, the line which he calls, or which he considers to be, himself. And when a mystic speaks of self-knowledge this does not mean knowing how old one is or how good one is or how bad, or how right or how wrong. It means knowing the other part of one's being, that deeper, subtler aspect. It is upon the knowledge of that being that the fulfillment of life depends. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/II/II_19.htm When a man has a ragged coat he says, 'I am poor'. In reality his coat is poor, not he. What this capacity or accommodation contains is that which becomes his knowledge, his realization, and it is that which limits him. It forms that limitation which is the tragedy of every soul. Now, this capacity may be filled with self, or it may be filled with God. There is only room for one. Either we live with our limitation, or we let God reign there in His unlimited Being. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/X/X_3_4.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Dec 05, 2023 10:42 pm Alex Jones shared a poem supposedly by Mother Teresa on his show today,
Quote People are often unreasonable and self-centered. ~ Mother TheresaForgive them anyway. If you are kind, people may accuse you of ulterior motives Be kind anyway. If you are honest, people may cheat you. Be honest anyway. If you find happiness, people may be jealous. Be happy anyway. The good you do today may be forgotten tomorrow. Do good anyway. Give the world the best you have and it may never be enough. Give your best anyway. For you see, in the end, it is between you and God. It was never between you and them anyway. I thought this was in alignment with todays Saki, wisdom shared by Pir-O-Mushird Inayat Khan: Quote A person is apt to think, 'Why should I perform actions that bring me no return? Why should I be kind, where no kindness is shown to me, where there is even no appreciation?' In this way he commercializes his kindness: he gives in order to receive. ... When one loves one must love for the sake of love, not for a return. When one serves one must serve for the sake of service, not for acknowledgement. In everything a person does, if he does not think of reciprocity or appreciation in any manner or form, he may perhaps seem a loser in the beginning, but in the end that person will be the gainer, for he has lived in the world and yet held himself above the world; it cannot touch him. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_28.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Dec 06, 2023 02:17 am Thanks Eric your last post is thought provoking. Not sure how to respond or whether a response is necessary. It does incite reflection. The main thing I got out of it was; how do we respond to other people and their responses to us, or for that matter their lack of response to us? Sometimes we are not certain what the best response is. A simple illustration here:
My roommate always throws out things, and sometimes they are important. For instance I laid out a toll charge I got in the mail today so I could remember to pay it. An added $25 would be demanded for a late fee next time the bill was mailed. I spent nearly a half an hour trying to find it, i was unsuccessful. I finally looked in the garbage and found it mixed with oil and grease. I have discussed my roommates throwing things out before, that are important. What if any should be my response to this? Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Dec 06, 2023 08:49 pm Have you tried holding the item in your hand and saying, "this is important to me. I'm leaving it out as a reminder to my self, please don't throw it away." ???
In my work environment sometimes over communicating is necessary, even if it seems annoying. But what was once annoying becomes humbling when you realize why something needed communicated more than once. You can also write on the object in question, "Steve's stuff." Or place it somewhere in you room that is usually considered off limits or a private space. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Dec 22, 2023 11:10 pm With good will and trust in God, self-confidence, and a hopeful attitude towards life, a person can always win his battle, however difficult. Bowl of Saki, December 22, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Dec 24, 2023 12:36 am There are many paths, and each person considers his own the best and wisest. Let each one choose that which belongs to his own temperament.
Bowl of Saki, December 23, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Dec 25, 2023 04:12 pm Love is as water of the Ganges; it is in itself a purification.
Bowl of Saki, December 25, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: When God's divine love rises as a wave, it washes away the sins of the whole life in a moment, for law has no power to stand before love: the stream of love sweeps it away. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIV/XIV_3.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Dec 26, 2023 10:31 pm Ego is a natural part of this experience! Suffering is natural. Suffering is not BAD. It's for a higher purpose.
Love is unlimited, but it needs scope to expand and rise; without that scope, life is unhappy. Bowl of Saki, December 26, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Dec 29, 2023 05:20 pm A gain or a loss which is momentary is not real; if we knew realities we should never grieve over the loss of anything that experience shows to be only transitory. Bowl of Saki, December 29, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jan 07, 2024 03:27 am The truth cannot be spoken; that which can be spoken is not the truth.
Bowl of Saki, January 6, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: Truth is that which can never be spoken in words and that which can be spoken in words is not the truth. The ocean is the ocean; the ocean is not a few drops of water that one puts in a bottle. Just so truth cannot be limited by words: truth must be experienced... from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/IX/IX_34.htm ...the truth cannot be put into words; all we can do is make an effort to render the mystery of life intelligible to our minds. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_12.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jan 12, 2024 05:45 pm Peace is perfected activity; that is perfect which is complete in all its aspects, balanced in each direction and under complete control of the will.
Bowl of Saki, January 12, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: It is useless to discuss the peace of the world. What is necessary just now is to create peace in ourselves that we, ourselves, become examples of love, harmony and peace. That is the only way of saving the world and ourselves. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_1_17.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jan 15, 2024 04:55 am A person's inclination is the root of the tree of his life.
Bowl of Saki, January 14, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: The real inclination of every life is to attain to something which can not be touched or comprehended or understood. The hidden blessing of this knowledge is the first step to perfection. Once awake to this fact, man sees there is something in life that will make him really happy and give him his heart's desire. He can say, 'Though there are many things in life which I need for the moment, and for which I shall certainly work, yet there is only that one thing, around which life centers, that will satisfy me: the spiritual attainment, the religious attainment, or, as one may even call it, the attainment of God.' Such a one has found the key to all happiness, and has found that all the things he needs will be reached because he has the key to all. 'Seek, and ye shall find: knock, and it shall be opened unto you... Seek first the kingdom of God, and all these things shall be added unto you.' This kingdom of God is the silent life; the life inseparable, eternal, self-sufficient, and all-powerful. This is the life of the wise, whatever be the name given to it; this is the life which the wise contemplate. It is the face of this life that they long to see; it is the ocean of this life that they long to swim in; as it is written: 'In Him we live and have our being.' from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_4.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: guest587 on Jan 17, 2024 04:49 pm Thought draws the line of fate.
Bowl of Saki, January 17, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: As mind is naturally impressionable, that means that man is naturally impressionable too. Most often his illness, health, prosperity, failure, all depends upon the impressions on his mind. They say 'Lines of fate and death are on the head and palm,' but I would say that it is the impressions man has on his mind which decide his destiny. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_5.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: tides2dust on Feb 29, 2024 05:16 am The one who can live up to his ideal is the king of life; he who cannot live up to it is life's slave.
Bowl of Saki, February 28, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: The ideal life is at least to try to live up to one's ideal. But in order to have an ideal one must first awaken to an ideal. Not everyone possesses an ideal; many people do not know of it. It is no exaggeration to say that the wars and disasters we have gone through, the unrest that all feel, and the disagreement among the people which is sometimes seen and sometimes not seen, are all caused by one thing and that is the lack of an ideal. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_15.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 01, 2024 02:33 am The one who can live up to his ideal is the king of life; he who cannot live up to it is life's slave. Bowl of Saki, February 28, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: The ideal life is at least to try to live up to one's ideal. But in order to have an ideal one must first awaken to an ideal. Not everyone possesses an ideal; many people do not know of it. It is no exaggeration to say that the wars and disasters we have gone through, the unrest that all feel, and the disagreement among the people which is sometimes seen and sometimes not seen, are all caused by one thing and that is the lack of an ideal. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_15.htm I would respond to this that many of us have an ideal but our ideals have railroaded us out of town by others who do not care to hear them. Worst yet in many countries people are imprisoned, poisoned and murdered because others do not want their ideals to be heard. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 02, 2024 12:32 am The one who can live up to his ideal is the king of life; he who cannot live up to it is life's slave. Bowl of Saki, February 28, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: The ideal life is at least to try to live up to one's ideal. But in order to have an ideal one must first awaken to an ideal. Not everyone possesses an ideal; many people do not know of it. It is no exaggeration to say that the wars and disasters we have gone through, the unrest that all feel, and the disagreement among the people which is sometimes seen and sometimes not seen, are all caused by one thing and that is the lack of an ideal. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_15.htm I would respond to this that many of us have an ideal but our ideals have railroaded us out of town by others who do not care to hear them. Worst yet in many countries people are imprisoned, poisoned and murdered because others do not want their ideals to be heard. I think all that can be done is to be a person of character - like Navalny - and attempt to live our ideals. He has been quite an example to me. And his wife continues his legacy! Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 10, 2024 12:01 am The one who can live up to his ideal is the king of life; he who cannot live up to it is life's slave. Bowl of Saki, February 28, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: The ideal life is at least to try to live up to one's ideal. But in order to have an ideal one must first awaken to an ideal. Not everyone possesses an ideal; many people do not know of it. It is no exaggeration to say that the wars and disasters we have gone through, the unrest that all feel, and the disagreement among the people which is sometimes seen and sometimes not seen, are all caused by one thing and that is the lack of an ideal. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VI/VI_15.htm I see my ideals change over this life from worldly goals to much more spiritual ones. I’m grateful for seeing that before passing over. To bring something more important along with me. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 10, 2024 12:28 am There are many paths, and each person considers his own the best and wisest. Let each one choose that which belongs to his own temperament. Bowl of Saki, December 23, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Not so sure this is always true. I already had a path layed out before me. And then started seeing Amma. I told her followers that I already had a path and was happy about it. However, they kept encouraging me to start the IAM techniques. I did eventually and was quite happy I did so. It has never replaced the Gurus I follow, nor their meditation practices. I found that Amma’s help only encouraged my spiritual practices and she gave me a mantra with Yogananda’s name in it. I remember asking her about my guru and spiritual practices. Her response was; “All the same. All the same” I have respect for your path Eric and I find it inspiring at times. I see nothing wrong with learning and growing through a comparison of spiritual experiences and practices. I also find that we have become more aware of political and social realities through our interactions. I do not see it as a deterrence to our spiritual progress if it is kept in perspective. I will admit that at times the intensity of it is such that it is best to refocus on the most important part of our spiritual life and quest if we find that we have too many distractions and differences. There are enough similarities and higher levels of communication that have made our friendship last, which I sincerely appreciate and hope to keep cultivating over and beyond everything else. I have decided to take up this conversation further in a thread called ‘Balance’ which I just created under the heading ‘satsang’. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: tides2dust on Mar 10, 2024 06:46 am everything you've done was in accordance to your will. while we live and breathe we are discovering. your path is that of steve hydonus, a unique personality in which god has the privilege of experiencing. you are dancing with the lord.
someone asked me last night if sufism was my decided belief system. i told them yes and no. no, i am not religiously sufi. but, whatever path i find my self on- i find the guardrails of truth. "in the house of my father are many mansions" the father is consciousness itself. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 10, 2024 12:59 pm everything you've done was in accordance to your will. while we live and breathe we are discovering. your path is that of steve hydonus, a unique personality in which god has the privilege of experiencing. you are dancing with the lord. someone asked me last night if sufism was my decided belief system. i told them yes and no. no, i am not religiously sufi. but, whatever path i find my self on- i find the guardrails of truth. "in the house of my father are many mansions" the father is consciousness itself. In some of best moments, i have seen steve hydonus as a fiction. Yet at other moments I do identify with certain role playing. I’m holding on to something here but often see it as a passing phenomenon. The more I meditate the more I see such people I’ve become as passing energy of desire in the drama 🎭 we find ourselves. Consciousness appears to me as something we are striving for, and we are becoming in this process. Consciousness fluctuates and has somehow become what our senses perceive. I do not know how this has happened but we are here communicating in these bodies as we’ve experienced. Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: tides2dust on Mar 10, 2024 02:57 pm presently steve, my path is leading me to look at the mongoloid race and polynesia. i believe i have a daughter on the other side and have witnessed a part of her akashic record. i just woke up from a very interesting dream. the dream had a heavy emphasis on archery. there was a constant mongolian throat singing. but what is really strange, is the singing was the sanskrit chant i learned about here.
"lokah samastah sukhino bhavantu" i believe i was being shown the last remnants of a mongoloid race, and the plea for help- "may all beings be happy" that genetic and historic account exist still in the akash, and there is a key to preserving a dynasty. i believe my daughter somehow shares this lineage. https://youtu.be/6WlI24rv__g cheers Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 10, 2024 05:17 pm Eric presently I feel no connection to this time and lineage but was impressed by the beauty and splendor of the terrain. Nature plays a part in expanding our consciousness. So happy to always be reminded of the chant we share. I usually add om to the beginning; om "lokah samastah sukhino bhavantu"
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: mccoy on Mar 10, 2024 11:57 pm I liked the music and the costumes.
The terrain is a little inhospitable, I wonder about the specific place in Mongolia. What I don't like about Mongolia: they are mostly carnivorous... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolian_cuisine#:~:text=Mongolian%20cuisine%20predominantly%20consists%20of,%22buuz%22%E2%80%94%20are%20popular.&text=The%20extreme%20continental%20climate%20of%20Mongolia%20has%20influenced%20the%20traditional%20diet. Quote Mongolian cuisine predominantly consists of dairy products, meat, and animal fats. The most common rural dish is cooked mutton. In the city, steamed dumplings filled with meat—"buuz"— are popular. The extreme continental climate of Mongolia has influenced the traditional diet. Use of vegetables and spices are limited. Due to geographic proximity and deep historic ties with China and Russia, Mongolian cuisine is also influenced by Chinese and Russian cuisine.[1] Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 11, 2024 01:55 am Lucca; sounds like food fit for ravenous wolves and tigers instead of humans. No wonder Russians are so aggressive. The food makes them that way; extremely restless and not satisfied with the land they have…. always want to extend it. Same with the Chinese.
I liked the music and the costumes. The terrain is a little inhospitable, I wonder about the specific place in Mongolia. What I don't like about Mongolia: they are mostly carnivorous... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolian_cuisine#:~:text=Mongolian%20cuisine%20predominantly%20consists%20of,%22buuz%22%E2%80%94%20are%20popular.&text=The%20extreme%20continental%20climate%20of%20Mongolia%20has%20influenced%20the%20traditional%20diet. Quote Mongolian cuisine predominantly consists of dairy products, meat, and animal fats. The most common rural dish is cooked mutton. In the city, steamed dumplings filled with meat—"buuz"— are popular. The extreme continental climate of Mongolia has influenced the traditional diet. Use of vegetables and spices are limited. Due to geographic proximity and deep historic ties with China and Russia, Mongolian cuisine is also influenced by Chinese and Russian cuisine.[1] Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: tides2dust on Apr 02, 2024 05:43 am While at work today, I had a profound sense of energy that allowed me to serve customers free of obstruction from negative thoughts. It was a nonstop 9 hour shift on my feet and I did not get to eat lunch until a few hours past my normal time. I think a big part of it was that I did not have a coworkers energy to worry about- which ends up being a venting session or ego-challenging/worrying thoughts. I really don't enjoy humoring self pity, tiredness, worry over unspoken motives. I am not pointing the blame at my coworker either, I have quite the ego with misery creating thoughts too. And what's the expression? Misery loves company. People like bouncing ideas off each other, even if those thoughts or ideas have become sour fruit.
At one point the business of the day was so entirely overwhelming that my nervous system was on fire, I remember telling my friend jokingly that I think my brain was bleeding. I told him, I don't think a normal person can handle this level of activity. And I wasn't saying that to gloat because I was suffering from the physical and mental overload of being engaged in multiple business operations at once. But to save face I stopped talking about it, I didn't want to get caught in the trap of complaining. Instead, I remembered a chapter from AoY. I barley remember it, but the way my memory recalls.. There was some grand event where Yogananda was forced to serve others and was made extremely exhausted. Somehow the idea that, God is in control- give everything to God crossed my mind during this interesting moment of recollection. And next thing I know, I am rocking and rolling with nonstop productivity. I probably reached my capacity, but realize as well- I can only give my best. Mistakes might happen, but give it your best anyway. Let the rest sort itself out. By the end of my shift, 30 minutes past, finally things were coming to a calm. I looked in the now empty store and said, "thank you God." I made the realization everything that happened today was made possible by God. This feeling alone, praising the Lord as the provider, it was transcendental. Anyways... Here's todays message: Quote When one praises the beauty of God, one's soul is filled with bliss. Bowl of Saki, April 1, by Hazrat Inayat Khan Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan: "Why does God need praise from me? Who am I that I should offer Him praise?" True, we can never praise Him enough; never can our praise be sufficient, but our souls are blessed with the impression of the Glory of God whenever we praise Him. The soul could praise God every moment and yet wanting to praise Him yet more, it is constantly hungering and thirsting to find the Beauty and Perfection of God. By the praise of God the soul is filled with bliss; even to utter the name of God is a blessing that can fill the soul with light, joy and happiness as nothing else can do. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/archives/prayer.htm The only secret of attaining happiness is to learn how to appreciate our privileges in life. If we cultivate that sense of appreciation we shall be thankful, we shall be contented and every moment we shall offer our thanks to God, for His gifts are many and enormous. When we do not see them it is because our wants cover our eyes from seeing all with which we are blessed by Providence. No meditation, no study, nothing can help in that direction, except one thing, and that is to keep our eyes open to appreciate every little privilege in life, to admire every glimpse of beauty that comes before us, being thankful for every little love, kindness or affection shown to us by young or old, rich or poor, wise or foolish. In this way, continually developing the faculty of appreciating life and devoting it to thanksgiving, we arrive at a bliss which no words can explain, a bliss which is beyond imagination: the bliss that we find ourselves having already entered the kingdom of God. from https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VIII/VIII_2_39.htm Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Apr 02, 2024 12:34 pm Thanks for including the personal experience Eric. It coincides with some of the last two days experiences I’ve had with people keeping me busy. And is a good example of the consciousness I should keep.
Title: Re: The Bowl of Saki Post by: tides2dust on Apr 04, 2024 11:55 pm Todays wisdom is rather interesting because it touches up on idea being shared between Steve and I in a very controversial thread/subject: transgenderism. Without trying to project which "side" this truth is "for" I will just post this simple truth and let readers move freely with their own ideas. To give sympathy is sovereignty, to desire it from others is captivity. Bowl of Saki, April 4, by Hazrat Inayat Khan "The constantly complaining habit and the tendency to demand sympathy from others bring the greatest thorn into man's life" https://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.php?m=4&d=4 |