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Title: Opposing views Post by: SI on May 10, 2023 05:14 am I read this somewhere, but these days especially it holds true. for me.
"I can’t really wrap my head around the fact that people confuse being exposed to an opposing view on any subject, with being a traitor or with being a subversive.” Title: Re: Opposing views Post by: guest587 on Aug 05, 2023 04:19 am Here's a great interview with the iconic "Q Shaman" Jacob Chansley and Alex Jones- Jacob is one of those, J6 insurrectionist, this interview includes footage of the capital police escorting him inside the building. Despite his cooperation with the police, he was vilified as the face of a supposed high level domestic terror event. Though footage shows police unlocking doors for Jaocb- he served 10 and a half months in solitary confinement and then 17 months in prison. He was released for good behavior. There are still J6 political prisoners receiving horried treatment today. Not every prisoner arrested was a violent, extremist insurrectionist. Not all engaged in the violent tribal frenzy that later ensued. Many were there to protest peacefully and while there were bad actors/agitators and people falling prey to chaos some can even be seen walking within the red velvet ropes inside the capital building. What actually happened on that fateful day and what we're told happened are two different stories.
https://banned.video/watch?id=64cd7012c5821364b69a7cc2 Title: Re: Opposing views Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Aug 05, 2023 05:51 am I want you to know that I am stating my views here and they do not reflect the views of everyone on this site. Eric; if it was your intention to engage SI in a constructive discussion, and perhaps bring him back on the site, I applaud your good intentions. However he did not bring up the issues you have here. And I would agree with him that opposing views do not necessarily imply being a traitor. In fact I myself have been considered a traitor because of my opposing views; just witness my past life episode during the civil war when I was a considered a traitor for freeing slaves, and this life opposing the war in Vietnam and other wars our country has engaged in. Including the war involving 9/11.
My hope though, is that this discussion does not bring us in another downward spiral away from spiritual consciousness, when so many of the discussions you instigate have an uplifting quality about them. I really do not see us coming to an agreement about what happened Jan. 6. So I ask a simple question; Do you really think it is worth discussing when you and I have so much in common in other ways? You may think 🤔 if you don’t want to discuss it why respond? There are now a couple of friends that I have that no longer come on this site because of political differences and the noise it produces, that leads us away from spiritual perceptions. So I’m here to let others know, that are looking on at this site that this is not a QAnon Site or MAGA site. As far as your ‘concern’ that the police let in someone, do you really think I don’t know, it’s possible that some of the police themselves were MAGA and QAnon sympathizers? There have always been sympathizers in our government that encouraged the development of cruel action by others. And that includes to the extent of willingly and maliciously killing and threatening the lives of honest, and in many cases innocent people. And yes other people have taken the fall for even assassinations that were not the people that actually who killed; for instance our leaders; they were scapegoats for the evil 👿 intentions and actions of others. Many were there to protest what peacefully Brother? Sometimes I will admit myself that we need to feel out and develop intuition when we are associated with groups and people. Some peoples views are as a result of totally false assumptions. There is so much overwhelming evidence now that there was never false election fraud. But instead - if anything- an outright motivation to dismiss the will of the people in a free election and overthrow our government, Trump has so many convictions for attempting to overthrow the government and steal as well as hide government documents that it cannot be logically argued any more. Friend you know that I never trusted this man from the start. Anyone that associated with him should develop their intuition better. You know that I really do not want to discuss politics with you friend. And yes, you are a good friend. But I have not brought up the issue about the insurrection here you have. My hope is that we do not get entangled in a web of political consciousness again. As you and I have brought our consciousness upward with spiritual awareness, in many other subjects, of spiritual proportions. Often in life, we find we are not the person we purport to be, this to me comes from an elevated consciousness of what we really are. Title: Re: Opposing views Post by: guest587 on Aug 05, 2023 03:32 pm Hey Steve!
:D Don't you fret non' Brother! Why? Because sometimes answers don't come to us in ways that seem to make sense or fit the mold. And you my friend, I don't expect you to meet the expected. I do hope you get to watch the interview, Jacob Chansley gets into some esoteric/spiritual discussion as well as free energy technology that could heal the planet and transform consciousness. Imagine that! Title: Re: Opposing views Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Aug 05, 2023 04:52 pm Hey Steve! :D Don't you fret non' Brother! Why? Because sometimes answers don't come to us in ways that seem to make sense or fit the mold. And you my friend, I don't expect you to meet the expected. I do hope you get to watch the interview, Jacob Chansley gets into some esoteric/spiritual discussion as well as free energy technology that could heal the planet and transform consciousness. Imagine that! I did listen to a lot of it since you hoped I’d get to watch it. Not sure if you want my thoughts and impressions or not. But the interview did not change my opinion about what Donald Trump did; that is overturn the election results so he could stay in office despite the will the votes and the determination of the American people which resulted in him losing the election. Title: Re: Opposing views Post by: guest587 on Aug 05, 2023 05:08 pm Share whatever you want Bro 🙂
I can't say I'm trying to change your mind 👀 We all have our views and opposing views. Title: Re: Opposing views Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Aug 05, 2023 06:04 pm Share whatever you want Bro 🙂 I can't say I'm trying to change your mind 👀 We all have our views and opposing views. I may add more reflections if something comes to me that seems appropriate to add here. I will say something that really has nothing to do with this thread accept that it proves a point; Sometimes people with the most different views on (some) subjects can be more enduring in their friendships and relationships then those who we thought would last longer because of other factors. I find that this single factor finds me more interested in your views and why you feel strongly about them, and it keeps me open to listening to them. Hearing someone on the other side is like the flip side of your mind playing backwards. Sometimes the tune gets to you and you play it over and over in your head until you realize. Wow that guy really did a number on me! I’m so obsessed I can’t even get back to my daily mantra, to clean out my head! That’s when you know you better watch your daily routine because somebody can take you to la la land. Share whatever you want Bro 🙂 I can't say I'm trying to change your mind 👀 We all have our views and opposing views. Title: Re: Opposing views Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Aug 05, 2023 10:29 pm It’s like you know what’s best for your head but someone says to you; real chicks drive sticks and it messes up your mantra and gets you fixated in the wrong direction on a one way street.
Or say you’ve been listening to the Grateful Dead most your life and suddenly someone says; hey say or think as you please; It’s a Grateful Blessing. Title: Re: Opposing views Post by: guest587 on Aug 07, 2023 12:54 am First, a refreshing level of competence: https://youtu.be/ksOR-geuBEQ Second, the continuation of Jacob Chansley and Alex Jones... Jacob opens up his interview with conversations around consciousness. https://banned.video/watch?id=64cebab571072a354865306f Enjoy :) |