Spiritual Portal

A Spiritual Smorgasbord => Living and Experiencing much more..space odyssey friends! => Topic started by: Jitendra Hydonus on Mar 02, 2010 07:49 am



Title: The Language of Love
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Mar 02, 2010 07:49 am
  The Language of Love



It is possible to give love
when misunderstanding occurs
It is possible to give love
When people misunderstand your words
There is hope where others will not try
There is grace in the darkest nite
When all the doors have all been closed
When others see only friend and foe
Still resides a peace inside
That turns the key to a better life
Even though kindness shows
But of your heart they do not know
That you may have many friends
Still there..... it does not end
Love hears a soulful cry
and gives hope where none there lies
So when you're met with harshful words
and made to feel you have not been heard
That small voice you hear inside
Shows you love: that brightest lite
You have heard it from the start
It still lies there in your heart
So give again and be a friend
For it is best to give
When giving ends.

When this you see remember me
When others speak of me unkind
Speak of me as you find
and please don't judge me too harshly
 


Title: Re: The Language of Love
Post by: blue nova on Mar 02, 2010 07:07 pm
beautiful indeed....words spoken from heart.

Quote
and please don't judge me too harshly 


God...does not judge.  it may seem like so...but it is not.

so....i will follow footsteps...and do the same <3 


"""   i hear with Gods ears......

i see with Gods eyes....

i speak with Gods voice....

i think and create as God....

i shall not judge...""""

that...is my 'mantra'.  everyday...every minute...every second....

also..create no harm to others..and that they may pray and hope the same for others...

It not matters...what past karmas hold...

Now..Is what Is.

""may we all Benefit...what is Now....""

_/\_ , Love and (((Hugs)))
bn








Title: Re: The Language of Love
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Mar 02, 2010 07:37 pm
Yes;

'Live today well and the next step will take care of itself.' ~ Paramahansa Yogananda

There is very little we can do about the judgement of others. However we learn that all the promises of eternal froendship and love often have a hollow echo. It is sweet to see others enter our lives but i seek not to make the same mistakes again. It seems i am willing to let things unfold slower and with more wisdom and awareness.

In Divine Friendship

Steve


Title: Re: The Language of Love
Post by: flying squirrel on Mar 03, 2010 04:20 am

There is very little we can do about the judgement of others. However we learn that all the promises of eternal froendship and love often have a hollow echo. It is sweet to see others enter our lives but i seek not to make the same mistakes again. It seems i am willing to let things unfold slower and with more wisdom and awareness.
In Divine Friendship
Steve


Hey Steve!

True, very little we can do about judgement of others  so do not judge today by yesterday

" all promises of friendship and love often have a hollow echo " ?

maybe some were hollow to begin with ?

friends come and go in our lives ~ sometimes unfortunate, sometimes most fortunate ! 8)
this we must accept

wisdom and awareness in all aspects of life is good !


Title: Re: The Language of Love
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Mar 03, 2010 06:33 am

There is very little we can do about the judgement of others. However we learn that all the promises of eternal froendship and love often have a hollow echo. It is sweet to see others enter our lives but i seek not to make the same mistakes again. It seems i am willing to let things unfold slower and with more wisdom and awareness.
In Divine Friendship
Steve


Hey Steve!

True, very little we can do about judgement of others  so do not judge today by yesterday

" all promises of friendship and love often have a hollow echo " ?

maybe some were hollow to begin with ?

friends come and go in our lives ~ sometimes unfortunate, sometimes most fortunate ! 8)
this we must accept

wisdom and awareness in all aspects of life is good !

Hi secret squirrel thanks for your thoughts. i look for continuity in relationships today. Relationships where people can look at the past for what it was and forgive transgressions or seeming transgressions. People who want to go it for the long hall from life to life until we get this thing right and move on merging together in the arms of the infinite. People who are not in it just because the circumstances seemed right at the time but now for one reason or another they are not. You can not stop people from judging today by yesterdays standards.

The ego is a very fragile thing not many people like to deal with friendship if some how they have been offended or rather they at times would rather remember things the way they were without going through with the inevitable changes. Some of us are not willing to change some things. Yet even if this is the case we should be able to respect the fact that we can accept this as well and still be loving in our memories and in our contacts with these memories.

 Hollow in the in the beginning? No i can not really say that. i think that even with friends and lovers that have gone; there is still something very special about them and the love they gave. i have found though that many people do not feel the same about the continuity issue. There life being different, there seems no more room for the old sentimentalities. But to me this is ignoring the fact that we are separated only for a time we will all unite again someday. It would be best to think we did the best we could to give love to all we have loved for eternity. Those are my thoughts. i am not saying i know all the answers. Others will and can correct me if i do not see clearly on the subject.

Steve


Title: Re: The Language of Love
Post by: flying squirrel on Mar 03, 2010 11:56 am


i look for continuity in relationships today. Relationships where people can look at the past for what it was and forgive transgressions or seeming transgressions. People who want to go it for the long hall from life to life until we get this thing right and move on merging together in the arms of the infinite.

Hey Steve! Thanx for your thoughts  8)

Deep thought on that last sentence above, the long hall ... life to life ...move on merging together

Ego has a mind of its own
Much talk about " living in the now " - today's mantra
sometimes need to let the memories rest

being loving in the memories doesn't always mean continuity in friendship
perhaps memories are different between the two people, different views ?
enhanced sometimes by thoughts of what one or the other wished it would have been, but it was not ?

Quote
i think that even with friends and lovers that have gone; there is still something very special about them and the love they gave. i have found though that many people do not feel the same about the continuity issue. There life being different, there seems no more room for the old sentimentalities. But to me this is ignoring the fact that we are separated only for a time we will all unite again someday. It would be best to think we did the best we could to give love to all we have loved for eternity.

Agree with you on the,"  very special about them and the love they gave " part

this thought " we are separated only for a time we will all unite again someday " great thought
but with everyone up there reuniting, won't it be crowded ?  8)


Title: Re: The Language of Love
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Mar 04, 2010 03:10 pm
Secret Squirrel and Nomaste i think we are having a meaningful dialogue here and anyone else is welcome to chime in. Yes some people definately have different views. It can be a discouraging thing that most people do not really mean what they say when they say they love someone. The love is conditioned and based on what we/they have wished it would have been rather than how it has turned out. But should this be grounds for never responding again? Here the situations have very little to do with memories but rather integrity.

Many others have felt as though we have burned the bridges but i still leave in my heart a place for them if they decide to communicate again. i believe this developing sense of magnetism and energy between us and others draws us to people that more strongly resonate with our own magnetism and what we drew to us before is a result of the magnetism we put out before. So in this sense we are responsible for what we allow in our lives now and in the past. Because of this i have become more patient and cautious in rushing into friendships. Sometimes it takes time to sniff them out. In some situations, over a time, i can recognize that i am taking on the qualities of someone else. In the language and in some of the behavior. This is a merging that starts occuring between significant relationshps. i have started to see this with a few of you here on the forum. With Namaste2All in particular; but i think that we have known each other for a long time and this is natural. i would suggest the part of the perplexing quality that he might notice in me is because of the possiblility that certain behavior patterns were thought to occur that were not forthcoming but rather other manifestations took place.

Some of us seem to grow together others stay stagnate at a certain level of evolution. At a certian point we realize we are living in the past or will be if we continue on; our most productive choice is to move on when other opportunites present themselves or when we decide to make other opportunies happen for ourselves. But this does not seem to happen so rapidly to me. The best of things always fade away. There are determining moments but these are rare and often it takes time to work thru the karma generated by lifetimes with others. Now i see life with others as a set of probabilities leading down certain pathways. Some of them click others just do not seem harmonious to our evolving sense of spirituality. Thru God's grace we are able to determine what to let go and what to experience within our consciousness, regardless of whether people are wth us in the body or not.

Om Shanti....


Title: Re: The Language of Love
Post by: flying squirrel on Mar 04, 2010 06:30 pm
Hey namaste2All !  8)

"Magnetism" great topic !
Quote
We are each a mix and flux of integration across our spirit and mundane realms
I like this statement !

"Magnetism" is the key, drawing people together
for a variety of reasons, this attraction lasts, if it is meant to be ~ if not, not

we all dance to the beat of a different drummer, on our journey
Quote
We cannot always do all we wish with or for each other, yet we travel together (as devotees and yogis) -- and this seems to make all the difference !  And as God shall grace, that our paths further inter-weave, we shall continue to dance in Spirit and Nature.   (all of us here on the forum as well !). 
Great thoughts !  8)


Title: Re: The Language of Love
Post by: flying squirrel on Mar 04, 2010 06:49 pm
Hey Steve !  8)

Quote
Yes some people definately have different views. i thnk  the discouraging thing is that most people do not really mean what they say when they say they love someone.

You have already commented on your own thoughts
"different view "

saying " I love you " can mean different things to different people, many kinds of Love

Quote
The love is conditioned and based on what we/they have wished it would have been rather than how it has turned out. But should this be grounds for never responding again? Here the situations have very little to do with memories but rather integrity.

here again, different views, different people
you want to continue communicating, the other person does not
does not make the other person wrong, that is just their choice
unfortunate it does not agree with your preference,
that is life
life does not always go as we might wish

just an observation, seems you are in conflict at times with yourself
wanting to be in the now, yet clinging to the past

Quote
i still leave in my heart a place for them if they decide to communicate again
nice thought !  8)

just do not let it become an obsession, wishing for things in the past, gone now, not meant to be
times change, people change
there is a time and a season for everything

trust in God, all is as it should be  8)
******************************

apologies, I missed this part of your reply
Quote
Thru God's grace we are able to determine what to let go and what to experience within our consciousness, regardless of whether people are wth us in the body or not.

you have it under control  8)

Om Shanti






Title: Re: The Language of Love
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Mar 05, 2010 08:47 am
i am grateful that my view of Love includes others and they will always be with me. i pray for those who cannot understand this.

Steve


Title: Re: The Language of Love
Post by: blue nova on Mar 05, 2010 10:12 pm
i am grateful that my view of Love includes others and they will always be with me. i pray for those who cannot understand this.

Steve


_/\_.... :)


Title: Re: The Language of Love
Post by: bibhasingh on Mar 07, 2010 08:06 pm
I liked yr views on love and the poem. May God bless All.He is our love and i crave for him.


Title: Re: The Language of Love
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Mar 09, 2010 09:23 am
I liked yr views on love and the poem. May God bless All.He is our love and i crave for him.

Thank You bibhasingh

Om Lukah Samastah Sukhinu Bhavantu


Title: Re: The Language of Love
Post by: flying squirrel on Mar 13, 2010 03:40 pm
i am grateful that my view of Love includes others and they will always be with me. i pray for those who cannot understand this.

Steve



Hey Steve ! Good thing I got my shades on !   8) 

 


Title: Re: The Language of Love
Post by: flying squirrel on Mar 13, 2010 08:25 pm

Cool brother !  8) Let the sun shine upon you ! Peace !


Title: Re: The Language of Love
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Mar 13, 2010 08:32 pm
Secret Squirrel Thanks for introducing me to the yellow glow it is more mellow!

Steve


Title: Re: The Language of Love
Post by: flying squirrel on Mar 13, 2010 08:40 pm

You're welcome Steve, and I agree !


Title: Re: The Language of Love
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Mar 18, 2011 03:43 am
Kahlil Gibran on Love

When love beckons to you, follow him,
Though his ways are hard and steep.
And when his wings enfold you yield to him,
Though the sword hidden among his pinions may wound you.
And when he speaks to you believe in him,
Though his voice may shatter your dreams
as the north wind lays waste the garden.

For even as love crowns you so shall he crucify you. Even as he is for your growth so is he for your pruning.
Even as he ascends to your height and caresses your tenderest branches that quiver in the sun,
So shall he descend to your roots and shake them in their clinging to the earth.

Like sheaves of corn he gathers you unto himself.
He threshes you to make you naked.
He sifts you to free you from your husks.
He grinds you to whiteness.
He kneads you until you are pliant;
And then he assigns you to his sacred fire, that you may become sacred bread for God's sacred feast.

All these things shall love do unto you that you may know the secrets of your heart, and in that knowledge become a fragment of Life's heart.

But if in your fear you would seek only love's peace and love's pleasure,
Then it is better for you that you cover your nakedness and pass out of love's threshing-floor,
Into the seasonless world where you shall laugh, but not all of your laughter, and weep, but not all of your tears.
Love gives naught but itself and takes naught but from itself.
Love possesses not nor would it be possessed;
For love is sufficient unto love.

When you love you should not say, "God is in my heart," but rather, "I am in the heart of God."
And think not you can direct the course of love, for love, if it finds you worthy, directs your course.

Love has no other desire but to fulfill itself.
But if you love and must needs have desires, let these be your desires:
To melt and be like a running brook that sings its melody to the night.
To know the pain of too much tenderness.
To be wounded by your own understanding of love;
And to bleed willingly and joyfully.
To wake at dawn with a winged heart and give thanks for another day of loving;
To rest at the noon hour and meditate love's ecstasy;
To return home at eventide with gratitude;
And then to sleep with a prayer for the beloved in your heart and a song of praise upon your lips.


Title: Re: The Language of Love
Post by: guest88 on Mar 18, 2011 06:35 pm
 :) beautiful thank you


Title: Re: The Language of Love
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jun 12, 2011 11:33 pm
Love is not an emotion. Emotions are like stagnate water. Love transforms individuals and others into God.

Amma


Title: Re: The Language of Love
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jul 13, 2011 06:53 am
There is a difference between being in love and loving. Loving can slip and can easily turn into hate. Loving goes on past the stage of being in love. Thanks for sharing your thoughts about love with me  Serena.

Jitendra


Title: Re: The Language of Love
Post by: Serena Duvet on Jul 13, 2011 07:38 pm
Steve,

What I meant is that I believe that "falling in love" or "being in love" can be a temporary illusion created by desire and imagination. 
And if a couple is physically involved, intense pleasure from nurturing touch and satisfying sex can enhance the illusion.  Sometimes
this kind of love eventually flips and tragically becomes its opposite, hate.

Long lasting, compassionate love is a more balanced experience and will include significant shared interests beyond the physical
enjoyment of one another, and manifests by its ever increasing desire to assist one another in peaceful and conscious evolution. 

Serena

(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i411/KikiDuvet/the_wild_swans_at_coole.jpg)


Title: Re: The Language of Love
Post by: guest88 on Jul 13, 2011 11:32 pm
hi serena
thanks for the post i really enjoyed that
its true
maybe by law of attraction or being in the moment these relationships occur. but maybe it is a necessity of life or natural process- desire and imagination to me translate to raw creativity. i also think sharing physically can be therapeutic. if it flips it flips and were on separate paths than that is what it has become. maybe paths will cross again ? but i think even in the midst of this long lasting and compassionate love- hate is there. its a beautiful thing. i think someone posted it earlier saying as we grow we draw closer to the one. the love/hate relationship and experience we share with others IS the conscious evolution.
just as you state that love with another may be temporary the same can be said for hate. gut feelings and all-
this goes back to law of attraction right ?
"rubbing against one another"
"smoothing out rough edges"
i guess what's important is where and what you place your focus on. importance is relative to the moment. it would be nice if we could all be there for each other but for reasons unknown this isn't always the reality of things- or sometimes from our own lack of understanding we expect to give and receive in different ways from what's really happening! i feel like im stating the obvious though and you already know all of this so w/e
am i chasing my tail ?

THANKS !
BYE FRIEND !


Title: Opening the Heart Chakra
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Sep 08, 2011 10:56 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh9tU8O1LfY

(Earl DeRouen/Marvin Gaye)
Hey baby
That's alright people
I know that's alright
Oh, when we love each other
I know that's alright
Oh feel it, feel it
Oh everybody feel it
God know that's alright, yes
Some of us were born
With money to spend
Some of us were born
For races to win
Some of us are aware
That it's good for us to care
Some of us feel the icy wind
Of poverty blowing in the air
For those of us who simply like to socialize
For those of us who tend the sick
Ah, and heed the people's cries
Let me say to you
Right on
Right on, feel it
Yea, oh, oh, Oh Lord, Lord, people
And I say, Right on
Honey right on
For those of us who live
Where peace is craved
For those of us who live, uh-huh
Where hatred is enslaved, alright
For those of us who live a life
Yea, surrounded by good fortune and wealth
Talk about it
Those of us who live a life
Hey, hey, hey enjoying ourselves
For those of us who got drowned
In the sea of happiness
For the soul that takes pride in his God
And himself and everything else
Love
That's all it is
We need love
That's all it is
Oh, oh
Love, love
Love's the thing
Love, love, love, love
Sweet love, love
Wonderful love
Ah, true love, love
Love for your brother
Love, for God
Pure love
Love can conquer hate everytime
Give out some love and you'll find
Peace sublime
And my darling, one more thing
If you let me, I will take you
To live where love is King
Ah, ah baby, baby
Ah, ah, ah, baby
People, people
People who love and care
That's alright
Alright
Ah....


Title: Re: The Language of Love
Post by: Willie the Shake on Apr 26, 2012 02:38 am
They do not love that do not show love.

                         willie the shake


Title: Re: The Language of Love
Post by: Willie the Shake on Apr 27, 2012 02:24 am
love goes towards love.

          Willie


Title: Re: The Language of Love
Post by: guest88 on Jul 16, 2012 03:26 am
(http://www.nicolaslattery.com/mediac/400_0/media/Set~Free.jpg)
If you love someone, set them free. If they come back they're yours; if they don't they never were.
Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/r/richardbac136009.html#ECOmS2bzA3tz2qvv.99



Title: Re: The Language of Love
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Aug 31, 2012 01:49 pm
 So.... i have offered a few of my insights: how about yours? We can forget about everything but not love. We should try to awaken love in all relationships. Yet at times we must wait patiently and allow a bud to open so it can release its fragrance when it is ready. If we force it to grow faster we will only smother drown or kill it in the process and so it is with love as well. If you find your experiencing love on the skids, sometimes it is better to....

leave it alone
to grow on its own
until it is receptive to us
we can help to pray
until then and again
send it on its way
until that day
when it returns
in a different guise
love again
comes alive

You ask how has love come into being? It is tantamount to asking how did we come into being? On a more finite level perhaps it is something we have been developing with another for more than one life. We recognize it when we come in its presence with another.  That being so, it is also possible that by its neglect or abuse we may destroy it for a time.

Jitendra
.
.  :-[


Title: Love is Kind
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Sep 02, 2012 04:31 am
Love is Kind

Sometimes we must
leave love alone
to grow on its own
until it is receptive to us
we can help to pray
until then and again
send it on its way
until that day
when it returns
in a different guise
love again
comes alive
Love is kind
Love is nice
How can we love?
Until we bring these
to others lives.
i want to be kind to you
would you let me to
give me a chance
to show you
that we can be kind
to one another
we can love once again
not the way we might have thought
but then agian life
has twists and turns
that make us into
something we had not thought
we had not dreamed to see
but that is the way love
can change our life


Title: Re: The Language of Love
Post by: Demian on Oct 17, 2012 09:56 pm
love must not   entreat or demand. love must have the strength to become certain within itself then it
ceases to merely be attracted and begins to attract.