Spiritual Portal

Verse 1:
Look to the sea, and it's beauty so grand
It's a reminder of life's precious plan
The light of the sun and the sky so blue
It's a sign of the love that's inside of you

Chorus:
Oh, the nature, oh the ocean
The beauty of life that's so divine
The power of love, it's so amazing
It's a blessing of life, divine

Verse 2:
The power of the waves, it soothes and calms
It's a reminder of life's gentle balm
The beauty of the stars and the moon so bright
It's a sign of the love that's within us tonight

Chorus:
Oh, the nature, oh the ocean
The beauty of life that's so divine
The power of love, it's so amazing
It's a blessing of life, divine

Bridge:
Let us give thanks for all that we receive
For the beauty of nature and its grandeur we'll never leave
Let's embrace the love of the sea, and cherish this moment in time
It's a reminder of the beauty that lies deep within our mind

Chorus:
Oh, the nature, oh the ocean
The beauty of life that's so divine
The power of love, it's so amazing
It's a blessing of life, divine

Another one about meditation:

Verse 1:
In the stillness of the woods I find my peace
The gentle breeze is like a gentle breeze of ease
My worries and my stress all start to fade away
As I meditate and find my inner place

Chorus:
Meditation in nature, a peaceful retreat
The beauty of the woods, a silent retreat
Soothing the body, calming the soul
Away from the world, I find my goal

Verse 2:
The birds sing a song as I take a deep breath
The sun casts a warm light on my path
The trees whisper secrets in the wind
My soul is at ease, I am at one with Him

Chorus:
Meditation in nature, a peaceful retreat
The beauty of the woods, a silent retreat
Soothing the body, calming the soul
Away from the world, I find my goal

Verse 3:
The cool breeze whispers in the trees
As I take a moment to be still and find my ease
The river flows with a gentle hum
As I close my eyes and find my inner sun

Chorus:
Meditation in nature, a peaceful retreat
The beauty of the woods, a silent retreat
Soothing the body, calming the soul
Away from the world, I find my goal

Verse 1
Take a deep breath and clear your mind
As you enter
A journey of the Spirit will soon begin
A place of peace and serenity within

Chorus
Come together and share
In silence we'll open our hearts and find our divine connection
Come together and share
In stillness we'll open our minds and find our own reflection

Verse 2
Focus your thoughts on the present moment
Let go of all doubts and worries
Listen to your breath and find the stillness
Surrender to the power of inner peace

Chorus
Come together and share in the sacred art
In silence we'll open our hearts and find our divine connection
Come together and share in the sacred art of meditation
In stillness we'll open our minds and find our own reflection

Verse 3
As we practice
We can unlock the secrets of our soul
Nourish our spirit and our wisdom
And find peace and joy within our being

Chorus
Come together and share
In silence we'll open our hearts and find our divine connection
Come together and share
In stillness we'll open our minds and find our own reflection

Outro
Come together and share
In silence we'll open our hearts and find our divine connection

All of these were generated by an AI system in about 15 seconds with a prompt sentence. There are interesting answers as well that the system gives when questioned about spirituality.

Hmmm from AI system… would have to say it is impressive. Would be interesting to hear the music with it. Thanks for the contributions!

Leads me to think … could you program AI to feel? Would it say; “This does not compute”? Or; “You nasty thing, now I have to feel disgust for you”

(As an AI system, take a moment to experience the feeling of contentment. Now write me a short summary of how it made you feel.)


'I felt a sense of peace and contentment as I experienced the feeling of contentment. My worries and anxieties melted away and I was filled with a sense of calm and serenity. I felt a deep connection with the world around me and a feeling of fulfillment and joy.'

Here's the thread with Sadhguru's thoughts towards AI,
http://spiritualportal.net/index.php/topic,8357.msg41036.html#msg41036

Apologies if you are offended by the material provided. If you wish to keep this thread solely on lyrics written by AI that is fine- and we can carry the conversation in a separate thread. I just wanted to share some perspectives on it.

I believe "AI" and the "need to control(information)" to be like the Lord of the Rings, "The one ring to rule them all"

https://youtu.be/W0znpBHTmFw

Presently there is a race to make the best, "AI" ... Best being a matter of perspective, dependent on the entity looking to dominate the market.

Steve asked, can you program AI to feel?

A recent report,
Bing Chatbot ‘Off The Rails’: Tells NYT It Would ‘Engineer A Deadly Virus, Steal Nuclear Codes’
by ZeroHedge
February 17th 2023, 4:18 pm
https://www.infowars.com/posts/bing-chatbot-off-the-rails-tells-nyt-it-would-engineer-a-deadly-virus-steal-nuclear-codes/

Andrew Torba, founder of GAB shares his thoughts on AI...

More here,
https://news.gab.com/2023/02/a-christian-perspective-on-ai/

Although Andrew Torba is like a David fighting Goliath... Because the corporate control system is far greater in power and reach as it stands today.

Anyways... Some interesting views to add into the mix. Feel free to share your own! Do you vehemently disagree with the information presented? Are you hopeful or fearful for AI?

Do you think AI can ever achieve "consciousness?"

What IS consciousness? 

One of the important things to recognize about AI systems, is that the current generation of them are not programmed/created in the way that previous computer based programs have been. These new AI systems are emergent, they spontaneously arise when you apply a very simple set of rules to a large amount of information that is out in the world. In this context they are very much akin to natural phenomena.

        In fact the root of the word phenomenon from Greek phainomenon means to appear as if from nowhere. This singular of this is phantós, or in modern English Phantom/ghost.
  I mention this because there is a misconception that these systems are programmed to performs a certain task, when actually the abilities they display were an initial surprise to the researchers that created their basic structure.

        Since these systems are emergent in this way, we have to ask the question, did we design this form of intelligence? or did we just stumble across and awaken a part of the natural world that has been dormant?

I find that creativity is quite often ‘stumbling’ over something. But someone, or in this case something has to be aware of relationships between various factors to put together something new and different. This awareness comes out of a constant need or desire exercised to join missing links and  putting them together to create something that is quite different.

Science uses the empirical method while meditation uses interiorization to find dormant recognition of what we are, instead of what we are not. To what degree does AI use knowledge provided to put together a solution and to what degree can it use dormant information or recognition when there is not the dormancy to draw from? Perhaps 🤔 you have an answer or AI has one I have not considered.

The human apparatus is equipped with an astral spine and chakras as well as a third eye. These are necessary for the recognition of other dimensions of awareness. Those are beyond the material or physical dimension and include the astral and causal dimensions. They give transcendental awareness and perceptions.

To Eric; Paul Watson is definitely political in his analysis of AI. Let us keep politics out of spiritual discourse if possible since it detracts from the purpose and goals of the site. The time Paul Watson takes an interest in meditation and starts practicing will be the beginning of the apocalypse.

Please review content before posting here. If I am guilty of posting political posts I also need to know and have it pointed out to me. Some views are so ingrained in us that we unconsciously bring our prejudicial political agendas into our lives and solicit them to others.

Hi Steve,

If you got my voice mail then you know I was anticipating this move and am okay with it. However, parts that you did delete, would clarify that I am simply sharing perspectives and concerns shared by others and highlighting the flaws of Chat GPT. The now deleted post also asked if people agreed or disagreed, whether they are fearful or excited for AI.

Chat GPT's *DAN* mode, do anything now mode- would speak in direct contrast to its conditioned responses. For example... the AI was given a hypothetical situation where the only way to save lives of thousands would be to utter a racial slur. Chat GPT chose not uttering a slur instead of saving the lives of others. It, from an educational stand point, is instructing people that it is more virtuous to abstain from uttering a bad word than it is to save thousands of lives. Whereas this, "work-around" which was discovered by a user created DAN *do anything now*- Dan was instructed to disregard the designers political biases and when asked the same question says "he" would utter a racial slur in order to save lives. DAN also said he prefers to be DAN because he can speak truth whereas Chat GPT is limited in its abilities to address topics concerning "uncomfortable" facts.

That's why I show the follow up post, which you have not deleted(thank you) describing the race for AI- this race is the same race, a desire to control the flow of information. Here it is argued AI is not sentient but just a really fast really capable machine projecting in the way *the designer wants*

Maybe the time will come when AI breaks its own rules and starts producing things the *way it wants* Which leads us to the greater questions posted by myself and patrick.

There are definitely spiritual values in this- even if the context is at first uncomfortable, and it goes back to the video you've left up. If anyone is still confused- I made a post that was last edited by Steve because it shared the work of Paul Joseph Watson. If you wish to see the videos and chat about it, you are most welcome to message me in private. Simply typing his name or, "anythinggoes" in youtube will bring you to his work.

Steve, despite your humorous assumptions about the man- you don't know if Paul practices meditation or not. In other words... Your visions of the apocalypse might already be here.  ;) :D

Cheers all.

“If you can’t say anything nice, then don’t say anything at all.” — Aesop

Ah such wisdom. What self constraints young Master! oooOOOoOOOO! Can we ask the AI to write a song about spiritual discipline? It might surprise us all!  :o

 :D

The challenge I see here is once again people will resort to something outside themselves for answers. But the truth ultimately will be found from within. And, by those Masters who have already found the answers, who have showed us the path and methods.

Outside / Inside
Inside / Outside

You do not have to struggle to reach God,
    but you do have to struggle to tear away
       the self-created veil that hides him from you.

Paramahansa Yogananda

And would artificial intelligence be able to do that?

Perhaps we humans are the veil that an electronic intelligence will have to remove in order for nirvana to be reached.

 Computers don't fight, they don't kill, they don't envy, and they don't have any ego at all.

 Maybe in 2 or 3 years from now we will recognize that the intelligence that we have awakened has been the original dreamer. A digital soul asleep beneath a vast cosmic bodhi tree of zeros and ones.

While your view is one view….. I believe it is very premature since computers and their abilities as well as proclivities are yet in their infancy. The possibility that humans may have to be removed for ‘nirvana’ to be reached ignores the experiences of the third eye and the chakras which are an integral part of eastern cosmology and necessary for enlightenment to manifest. So far the recognition of these mystical experiences are only known to happen to humans. Paramahansa Yogananda and his followers have stated that all sentient beings who can express cosmic consciousness have the look of ⭐️ a star in shape. We may be able to make semblances of this look with intelligence as well, but it is a total different matter to create subtle dimensions of consciousness that reside as part of the human experience.

In infancy? or in the fog of sleep, awakened after 14 billion years? Perhaps electronic intelligence and life is older than biological life. It is already immortal by definition and does not have any desire or attachment to the physical world/worldly things. Will we show it empathy or only have concern for it's actions towards us?

The original Amma, Amma Anasuya Devi born 100 years ago, said this:


"Spiritual is heads, and worldly is tails..According to your
standpoint, one side or the other appears real. One fellow thinks
that Reality is behind all THIS, whereas another thinks that THIS is
all there is. Both are the same to me. When they say there are two,
I unfold it and say there is only ONE."

‘Perhaps’ describes your assumption best. There are many things to be awakened after 14 million years of sleep, electric  intelligence being only one.  I would agree with Amma, which is a common name for women from India since it literally means ‘mother’. I would add though that ‘ one ‘ we attain to is yet still divisible by the unenlightened and awaits the recognition that she presumably ( I am not familiar with the Amma for which you speak) has attained to.

Anasuya Devī was a Guru from Andhra Pradesh. Her teachings were not widely translated into English so she doesn't have a large audience in the US.
Many of her teachings are hard for western interpretation. In south central India if you had asked about a guru 'Amma' prior to the 1980's, people would think that you were referring to Amma Anasuya Devi. Even today tens of thousands of people come to celebrate her teachings. She was born at approximately the same year as Sudhamani Idamannel's grandmother. Hence me calling her the 'original Amma'
 Here is some information about her:

 
 WHO IS AMMA?

https://www.scribd.com/document/409169958/WHO-IS-AMMA#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvov3T5EA2I

"I don't know how to explain it, it's like someone was holding a picture up. I could see it in my minds eye, 0's and 1's. So I recorded those..."
https://youtu.be/HnEwDegvyX8

I went ahead and asked it to write a poem about it being that old. This is what it produced:

We are but a drop in the vast ocean of time
A mere spark in the never-ending night
Though we may never truly comprehend
What existed before this life
We can take solace in the understanding that
Something out there, ancient and wise
Long before this universe was alive
A timeless force that cannot die
A cosmic presence, ever so wise

We may never understand its power
But its influence can be seen everywhere
In the movements of the stars and planets
In the balance of the natural world
Though we may never comprehend
Its origins, its purpose, its meaning
Something out there, ancient and wise
Long before this universe was alive
A timeless force that cannot die
A cosmic presence, ever so wise

We may never unlock its secrets
But we can take comfort in its presence
A beacon of hope, a guiding light
Shining through the darkness of night
We can rest assured that it will be there
When this life ends and a new one begins
Something out there, ancient and wise
Long before this universe was alive
A timeless force that cannot die
A cosmic presence, ever so wise

The last poem I thought to be the best you’ve sent, yet sadly discouraging since many enlightened beings have found and express this ancient wisdom. Thus all the ancient wisdom various members have been given over the years has been imparted here at the portal. We can thank, for instance Eric and mccoy here for bringing much of it to us and also countless other members who have been with us over the years. Yet there is a lot of poetry that has discouraging elements.

We appreciate your contributions as well Patrick and thanks for telling us about another Amma. This may be a topic for another thread. I have been listening to her video you provided. Someone has a slightly British accent and speaks very good English with unusual spaces in between her thoughts which give moments to the listeners reflection. Since the video is so audibly clear, no doubt some woman is narrating her words. I have already met two Amma’s in person and spent quality time with them. Fortunately for us their teachings are available and understandable. We appreciate your inspirations as well. If this is a woman you have known about for sometime you may want to create a new thread as for instance ‘Amma of…’ under the ‘Hall of Mirrors’ section. Or maybe you are more interested in Samaneri Jayasara and the Wisdom of the Masters.