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Title: IV:20 - Freedom from Karma
Post by: guest88 on Jan 30, 2021 06:47 am
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     A yogi who apprently "works" for God to please Him, does not really act at all, esoterically speaking, for his actions have no connection with the interest of his own ego.
     The problem of "action" and "inaction" becomes simple when one understands that, just as a man is not responsible for the actions of others, so a yogi is not karmically bound by the actions of that stranger, his body. He politely assists the body to achieve its welfare, without personal attachment or identification with the fate that befalls it. It is impossible for a devotee who has merged himself in the vastness of Spirit to consider himself confined to any human personality. What activities a yogi engages in are in the nature of an impersonal "carrying out orders."
     A yogi who undertakes complex divine works, such as maintaining a hermitage for his disciples or an orginzation to serve the spiritual needs of mankind, or performing education or charitable activities, is not thereby entangled in any personal karma, provided he has joyfully resigned his will to God's.
     His state of freedom in action is in marked contrast to that of a karma-accruing worldly man who may engage in philanthropic activities for the satisfaction of his ego, or for gaining praise from others, or for escaping income taxes!
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Title: Re: IV:20 - Freedom from Karma
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jan 31, 2021 04:41 am
The sense of just being in a room and not feeling in any way part of that room. Such an unusual feeling it must be seeking no pleasures for the body. Usually I think of expansion beyond the body but he does a mind twizzler here to you. Like how do you get attached to a body when your consciousness is in all space?

“It is impossible for a devotee who has merged himself in the vastness of Spirit to consider himself confined to any human personality”. He makes being anyone on earth look like child’s play next to the vastness of spirit. As though; ‘ really? So you say you are Paul McCartney? Welcome to your delusions and limitations.’

It really gives the phrase “ I am the way the truth and the life. No one comes onto the father but by me” a truly different meaning. He could leave the body at will with that state of consciousness. It leaves you wondering was he sometimes still identified to it? Certainly not after the resurrection.

I think that I go thru various states of identify to the body and its personality. It’s difficult to explain the feeling to someone who has never experienced the state of being beyond identification with a personality or body.

It will be nice to read again together from Yogananda’s translation of the Gita. Thanks Eric.


Title: Re: IV:20 - Freedom from Karma
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jan 31, 2021 12:07 pm
I have found that listening to Paramahansa Yogananda often gives me this feeling of a strange alienation too my surroundings and the body that I am inhabiting. As though somehow I have been tricked to participate in this drama to be an unwilling participant. I look at my arms and hands and legs and think how did I ever get conned into wearing this costume? And why do I think that I am playing this seemingly ridiculous role? The strange part about it all is I think he intentionally wants to shake us up that way >> To recognize we have all become captives of some parody of who we really are. At times it feels like listening to those old twilight zone episodes. Where you’re in this dimension of imagination and a participant of a madman’s production. He has a strange sense of humor in that way. Somewhat like satire.... mocking willing participants in a prison colony for spiritual retardation. Are we just actors in a wax museum and we are the wax figures? It’s like someone’s entertainment to see us struggle with all these fictitious impersonations. Imagine meeting this guy, as many have  given testimony too, and then slowly being told all about your self and your life. As though they created it because they know more about it then you yourself.

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