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sometimes we have psychic experiences that are not always true. They may be motivated by obsessions or passions instead of true visions. Sometimes it is important to move on....even though we may have seemed to have psychic experience regarding someone else. We are not always correct in our visions, dreams and psychic experiences. Yet other times I have found I have been correct although things may not be quite as I  interpreted my vision or psychic experiences.

oh it is true in that it is something happening for the individual, and only that individual can determine whether or not the value such an experience might provide.

what other people think, well you can't really control that anyways.  :)

what is reality? which reality and to what degree are we residing in? oh yes, there are many falsehoods- but underneath that, is still something worth discovering.

above these experiences let us hone our discernment and act from a place of love, not the self-serving kind.

What amazes me is how people interpret their own psychic experiences thru the filter of their own mindsets. Thus the importance of meditation to develop detachment from our own ego views!

i'm not sure practicing meditation will give one the discernment to detach from their visions.

recently i had an experience where intense emotions were stirred out of me both waking and in dream- where i met a woman i felt intense feelings for and believe we are a part of the same soul. the dream was so peaceful and so real that i was convinced- but to act on it in the waking world was to propel our separation and make for awkward moments. whether the vision of belonging to the same energy is true or not, i do see that the ego wanted to be satisfied in a romantic sense, while fate would work against its desire. sometimes that friction creates a yearning for the individual vision to be relayed and brought to the surface- even if it means appearing like a fanatic, so that what was experienced might receive some validation.  ???

Many times we do not immediately know the significance of people or events but we become more aware of their meaning as time passes and we may even have an epiphany about the experiences we have had and realize the purpose of them. Validity does not always follow in time as we know it. But nevertheless many deep psychic or dream sequences do emerge later with validation and recognition of their gift and purpose.

to the one whose based their rationale through linear thinking, the picture isn't always so clear.

Divine friend

You have expressed this before when you described having a friend connecting with you telepathically but only sensing it in a different time frame. Suddenly that  notion just became clearer and would appreciate your elaborating. Think this thru with me and let me know your spirit on such matters.

I would say -for me- instead of trying to validate our experience with ‘fanatic’ and frenetic activity it is more important to connect with good friends and not over step propriety. Relationships evolve in a natural way and may take longer than our personal desires want them to take. To jump start the time factor and not recognize we are learning patience with ourselves and those dear to us is to try too unfold a rose before it is ready to blossom.

Meditation may not detach us from our visions but it certainly gives us patience in divine order and faith in letting God decide when and how we should unfold in our interactions with others. Intense emotions whether witnessed as described or as a vision are nevertheless emotions. Those emotions are at the heart of our reactions which is what we will have to face from the outcome of our actions and the response we get from others as a result. It is just as important to watch our emotions as our thoughts in our practice no matter how we perceive their origin.

i don't think anyone intends to come off as a fanatic. most people anyway, i agree with you. we don't always know a good friend from a disingenuous one though, as a student of love, it doesn't matter. it may be that time reveals the true endurance of a friendship- but should we really expect anything?

meditation does help calm the mind, i suppose because i am still impulsive and a novice that i've not developed sufficiently the ability to execute discernment where paranormal phenomena and love are concerned.  what i mean is, lets say you experience something so magnificent and unique that you can't help but shout it off the roof tops? or, what if its because you seek comfort in hoping others might experience similar?

though it may not have been appropriate, it doesn't make the experience less real. and though we may have been operating from a selfish mode, there is still something to gain from it. when the yearning for expression or validation is so strong you take the risk and succumb irregardless of the outcome. in this way, it might be that what has happened was natural- friction or no friction- separation or not, there is something for both parties in that moment. could this be an act of god?

my visions might be a virtual reality but they provide opportunity, sustenance for individual progress.

as for communicating outside linear time, i think there are many examples. faith, love, intent these are languages not bound by mans intellectual capacities or linear expression. we might be able to connect, even if we do not meditate at the same time.
more thoughts on this...
how is it i have a future memory? or have an experience of astral travel where i skipped ahead in time? or an experience of astral travel where i saw someones past?
i saw my parents in their youth, and my mother shared her thoughts with me about my father. i was interviewing them surprisingly.
i saw my parents in old age, past where they are now.
i saw a family mourn over my premature death and i communicated with someone on the other side, somehow connected to the whole thing?
these are just examples that make me think about communication taking place outside of time/space or viewing times not associated with present reality.

”i saw a family mourn over my premature death and i communicated with someone on the other side, somehow connected to the whole thing?“

Do you see that as this life or another? What is premature in one persons mind may be timely in another’s.

Below i quoted you soul friend. I think the problem we often encounter with others is that we do ‘appear’ differently than we are. But that can be no fault of our own and often the fault of those misinterpreting our words and not knowing how we intend them nor having an adequate understanding themselves. So that leaves us in a position where we have to continue re-evaluating how we come off to others, in our actions and words, if we want to function smoother in our social milieu.. I have often encountered this myself... so am no stranger to it! At times we just buck the system and let it all hang out. Other times we take a more cautious approach because we don’t relish so much backlash. Especially when it affects our career objectives and close relationships that we would like to preserve.

Quote from: tides2dust on Jan 28, 2020 04:54 pm
“i'm not sure practicing meditation will give one the discernment to detach from their visions.

recently i had an experience where intense emotions were stirred out of me both waking and in dream- where i met a woman i felt intense feelings for and believe we are a part of the same soul. the dream was so peaceful and so real that i was convinced- but to act on it in the waking world was to propel our separation and make for awkward moments. whether the vision of belonging to the same energy is true or not, i do see that the ego wanted to be satisfied in a romantic sense, while fate would work against its desire. sometimes that friction creates a yearning for the individual vision to be relayed and brought to the surface- even if it means appearing like a fanatic, so that what was experienced might receive some validation.  Huh?”

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Yes I really found that true last nite with the dream I had about Mitt Romney.

very good! i see the rewiring was a success!

steve, to answer your previous question, it might have been that even though who i saw mourn in the dream is from this life- it could have been an experience from the past or, it could have been a virtual experience where the subconscious relayed its messages as best it could based in relation to this personality/ego

 ??? either way,

happy feb 01'st!!

i read, tomorrows date is a palindrome no matter how you date based on your geographic location the date comes out the same! and tomorrow is ground hogs day  ;D
02-02-2020

wahoo!! party time

Rewiring? Hmmm seems like you saw more in it then I.....tell me if you have an insight.

there's nothing to say and nothing more to do!

enjoy the you that is right now !  :D :D

I'm bumping this thread and hoping to steer it back to its original title... Psychic Experiences.

All day today, around those I work with and while thinking on my Loved one, I felt as if I had been aware on a psychic level of the dynamics that were running in real time through their head. It was not something I enjoyed, or something I would want to prove. It was something that took me having to take a step back and remain calm.

I could feel my boss today, and I could feel her thoughts towards me- I could actually read them on her face. And I could see the ways she was having to overcome her own uncertainty. I could also feel the dynamic, and the thoughts running through my coworkers mind when I interjected whilst she was having a conversation with my boss. I understood how they both viewed me in the workplace in that moment and previous ones.

Then I could feel the distance from my Love and I understand she is going through something right now. The uncertainty is something we are both most likely feeling, but I did not want to define the moment for us. And I see we are both experiencing this separation with patience. She has a lot on her plate and wants, perhaps needs, a bit of alone time and to engage in her own methodology for healing. I'm sure all this sounds extremely vague... But I get that I was picking up on a lot of unspoken impressions today and with extreme accuracy... It is not a point to brag about, and there was nothing worth proving or acting upon. Just that the uncertainty itself seemed really clear to me, and I could see where and who it was coming from- and what thoughts or dynamics were playing out before me.

I would call it a psychic experience. And this is a little silly... But I was so tired today I got chinese food(sauteed eggplant) and was pleasantly surprised by my fortune cookie- something that felt affirming to my reality through out the day...

"You are perceptive and considerate when dealing with others."

Thanks for sharing the above Eric. It’s a good feeling when everything around us becomes transparent and our drama has a plot and characters that we are able to know their lines and their views and actions beforehand or in action despite all the outer workings that often hide true motivations. I wonder if you ever have this inner perception about me as well?

Can't say I have friend  :D Or maybe I've forgotten.

The deceptive drama at times deludes us and we do forget. Yet we pick up energies and thought forms from others in their spontaneous reactions and outpourings as well. I walked into a friends room yesterday and asked her if she felt queasy since I felt the distinct sense of uneasiness in my solar plexus, just walking into her room.  She did not at the time, but the next day she expressed she did not feel well and didn’t even care to eat.

I hope to recap some experiences that Eric and I have had over the years and continue them here. Some premonitions do come true although they need not always be of a negative impact and quality. Eric recently had some premonitions about Hawaii and I had some about Russia and more recently China.

I always felt when I was in my teenage years that we would have to encounter very challenging times with the Soviet Union. I thought it would be well before this time but now it has appeared and I can see no light at the tunnel in the near future for our struggles with Russia. I also see that we will encounter similar difficulties with China. Yet I do not see how we can solve these challenges with two wars going on. We may have to make some compromises in our ethics to be able to manage all the problems facing democracy around the world, especially since we ourselves ( democracy oriented countries ) have skeletons in the closet we must contend with.

It is clear that China has intentions to incorporate more  territory into their tyrannical system of government and we know already by the aggression of Russia that they have no intentions of giving up more land that they have unfairly taken from other countries. The question is to us now; how much can for instance NATO fight off the conquest of anti religious and spiritual forces in a world of duality that we are witnessing all around us. And, if anything, what should we do to avoid nuclear war? Which obviously 🙄 can destroy our whole civilization, both dark and light in the world.

Just want to notate that I do not claim what I experienced was a premonition- but I asked aloud as a potential reality. I also believe we can not accurately asses another's suffering. I believe we can sympathize, we can feel something- but I think the extent of suffering is unique. And I think if we were to feel *everything* then we would surely be dead. So I wonder why only certain clairvoyant experiences even happen? Maybe this wasn't a precognitive experience. If it were, then I can only speculate maybe some premonitions are experienced because of a link we share with the person or place.

I have heard there are different energy centers all over the world and Hawaii is one of them. Something like Sedona, AZ. I have also had personal experiences where my OBE's seem to gravitate to someone who I thought was Filipino but could easily be Hawaiian. Maybe a past life connection? At one point I speculated this person to be an (unaware) spiritual anchor for these kind of unexplainable occurrences.

Eric Hawaii is in a rather precarious place with regards to the United States. It is thousands of miles off at sea, which puts it in a position to be vulnerable to other threats from other nations. I actually would not negate the possibility of further challenges to this state that are yet to be witnessed.

Some of my views recently have been tempered by the recognition of the overwhelming challenge to monitor the sufferings around the world with the suffering happening right here in the United States. I feel fortunate that I do not have to deal with making serious decisions regarding our future and the future of the world that our leaders must confront. We are more like onlookers in that sense, though our little lives can significantly impact the world around us through our prayer and meditation. Although to a large extent, we as witnesses of the dharma unfold, also have our individual destined roles to partake in, that have brought us to this point in our evolution, to meet the challenges of our karma and destiny as spiritual beings.

Plus. Hawaii has a past we might be connected to. Pearl Habor. But. On a separate note. I read of Korea and China allying up with Russia just yesterday.

And your post reminded me of this dream,
http://spiritualportal.net/index.php/topic,4782.msg25711.html#msg25711

"Visited by the angel of death"

What's weird about this is- even though I don't mention Hawaii in the dream... I feel as if that's how I remember it.

I know memory itself is a peculiar thing, and the way people recall and remember events can be different from what actually happened. So it is nice I recorded this dream. But in my subconscious mind- there is an association with Korea and Hawaii.

???

Yes it is Eric and I have this premonition also, it is that like Russia I also believe that China will be a real threat to freedom in the future. It took awhile till the danger of just how dangerous Russia would become was apparent but it happened as I thought in my teen age years. I also feel a strong hunch that China will remain a great danger to world peace and free loving people. So much so that i am concerned how the United States and many other European and Asian countries will be able to support a war in Ukraine and Taiwan/China at the same time.

A few days ago I had a hunch that a certain product I like eating would be on sale so I went in a store and sure enough it was. I believe it best to exercise our intuitive abilities by acting on them when possible.