Spiritual Portal

somehow my body allowed me the opportunity to astral project last night. it had been so long that it was quite difficult to leave my bedroom but i was certainly out of this immediate, physical apparatus. while out i was picking up on two people talking. they were having a humorous exchange and i couldn't tell if they were laughing at my attempts to move around or if they had no clue i was there.

i hope to explore these realms more.

Eric

Hope you continue to share and you find out what participates such events. They sound very inspiring to me. If we had some control over the ability to astral project we could visit our friends at a distance or other planets and life forms. We could even go to one of Amma's gatherings!

i left my body last night. it happened 3 times. this time it was easier for me to walk around. there were cats in the room next door on my apartment floor. they looked different from my cats. they didn't notice me at first but since i thought they might have been my cats i tried to speak out to them on the second go around. it was actually very difficult to speak in this realm, i don't think i made anything but an incoherent noise. i assume it was the astral. i tried to leave my complex on the first attempt and fell into a very lucid dream in which i woke myself up. i went back to sleep and the second attempt is when i tried to reach and touch one of the cats/speak to it. i think i drew unnecessary attention and unwanted energies to myself. i scared myself a little in the end and for some reason started to fall back on nonsensical religious stuff thinking if i focused on trinity that i could ward off my fear. although i believe fear is one of the biggest obstacles for this type of experience i also believe shutting my mind down and focusing on religious jumbo as a way to safeguard myself also takes away from the experience. i actually think the attempt to ward off the energy by falling back on "Jesus" is what caused for the very intense surge back to reality like i was drawing more unwanted energy but perhaps these shadowy aspects were really my self(since they were going into my body when snapping back to wake). i think in this realm the slightest impulse mixed with imagination can make things really dark really fast. i hope next time to go into it completely open and hope to send away the unwanted energy on my own without fear and continue to explore uninhibited.
seems like this fear and vulnerability from an OBE has been going on with me for years now. 

A few days ago I had an out of body experience... It was the first time I was able to talk to someone. I recorded it elsewhere and will share it here below. Although I don’t control when the OBE happens I feel I’ll be given another opportunity tonight. I will post and let you know- I think it has a certain combination of physical tiredness and mental alertness so you can witness your body enter rest mode... here is the experience from a few nights ago:

Hi. I had a brief OBE early this morning. I don’t control when the opportunity presents itself so it has been a while. I still carry a little fear when I go into these states. It started with the usual feelings when switching- there was this honing in- unusual sounds and the feeling of rising out. It’s usually very difficult for me to leave my body- I tend to get half way up and stumble around the astral like a drunk. I remember feeling the usual struggle to rise outward but then I heard my name from behind me, “Eric” and I immediately sat up(my astral form). I remember being taken back by how easy it was once I heard my name and I thought the gentlemen was right behind me. For some reason I was too scared to turn around and look. I instantly dropped to my knees and started praying. I remember feeling a bit of the weight but not physically- just like the atmosphere around me was very active/hazy/staticy. I thought I couldn’t handle viewing this person in his true form- despite this person sounding like a regular guy. While on my knees and elbows and looking down on the ground I felt/saw a shadow figure peek over my shoulder curious to what I was doing. I tried pushing it away with my energy and saying I wasn’t interested. The guy that woke me up said, “that wasn’t me,”
I replied, “it wasn’t?”
“No.” He said. This was the first time in a long time or the first time ever I had a clear and calm conversation with a voice in this realm. It was interesting to note it was very hard for me to talk and it played back after I said it like a relay. It was a struggle and my voice came out slow and low- I sounded faint but calm whereas this person was talking clear and steady-a no second guessing pace.
I remember trying to get up and look behind me and I think I saw a ghoulish gaseous green person thing sitting on the edge of my bed where My phone charges. I knew this wasn’t the person talking either. While I was doing this he said something like, “let me go over some general things since I’ve asked similar stuff.” As soon as he said that I Woke up instantly- like i zapped/jolted back to me laying on my bed now eyes opened, guess I had to use the restroom... It was around 5AM when I awoke and I unfortunately didn’t get past that. Interesting to note I don’t remember the exact word but I think he actually said, “Let me answer in general terms since I’ve had congenial questions.” Lol I don’t think that was the exact word but he said something like that, a word I don’t think I use in my everyday vocabulary.. since I couldn’t remember exactly or wasn’t sure if it even made sense grammatically I changed it to the first way...

I originally posted this in a parapsychology forum in hopes to learn more thus the recording is in the format it is...

Thanks for sharing Eric. I have had some experience with spiritual guides and i have learned to recognize their messages and retain them often elaborating on them myself since the original message served as an inspiration to further ideas surrounding the original thought.  One thing leads to another.

Quite often, if not almost always, we are not privy to long sessions with such guides since our focus and concentration is rather limited and elusive at best and our material thoughts cauterizes their presence....thus the practice of meditation to increase these sessions and our receptivity to them.

Life becomes like a gift when other dimensions open up to us. I remember times when i was very exhausted from too little sleep. I nodded out and a voice like u also spoke of said to me; 'steve' and brought my awareness back to my meditation practice. Isn't it wonderful to know we have guides from the other side trying to help us as we make the effort to be in tune with them and we are much more then these bodies and minds we inhabit. U must have a sense of freedom leaving the body even though there is yet no conscious control.

Never really had one, sort of like NDE's it seems, now there's a camp that thinks even those are just demonic distractions, probably some are, maybe some are not, also hard to believe everybody all the time, even from a friend who might not be aware that even he may not have a full deck.

Hi Steve, yes it is nice and I’m hoping to immerse back into this reality. I’ve been away from this experience too long.

Hi SI This demonic stuff seems like fear and a way to stop someone from exploring. Im no expert but I am beginning to understand in this plane one’s own imagination and dogmas can create a very short or negative experience. My own fear is usually what hinders me from getting further...

Nothing came the night I posted- I dreamt instead.  This morning however I was able to push myself out. No vusuals and I stumbled into someone else’s conversation. I tried to say hello but quickly woke up. No luck getting back after that.

Also I seem to have better luck when I get up to use the restroom early in the morning and then go back to sleep. I usually have a sip of water. Tonight to experiment I will set my alarm for 4 AM then go back to sleep. Will keep you posted...

Hope so. It can be many things and it could be based on our own level of strength and perception.


Fear of what? If it's all good then there should be 0 fear?

Thank you for the question. Fear of the unknown usually. I fear death too. I never said it was all good either. I don’t know this plane well enough to know the ins and outs- just enough to believe there is indeed an astral plane, positive and negative forms of energy. I also believe in other psychic phenomenon and believe we all have access to these experiences.
Although the unknown can be scary I actually find it fun and exciting which is why I want to go further and see if I can learn more along the way.

That may-be the reason, I dunno, but I don't fear/care about the unknown, death too. It's all out of my hands, it's going to happen regardless.

I've wondered before why some things don't happen to me, some may say it's because I'm not spiritual enough or true enough.

Or it may be I'm not scared of these things.

I went back to edit the post. I think you can manifest the experience SI- i learned in psychology that everybody dreams. We have at least 6 a night. The most I’ve been able to record is 3 or 4 in a night. If you really want to You can try starting there. The more you can recall your dreams the more lucid dreams you may start to have. As for the OBE I believe it requires a combination of physical tiredness and mental alertness. You have to watch your body enter into a rest/sleep mode. As a kid I would remember talking myself to sleep... the talking turned into a daydream which lead to sleep. Look for the disconnect, you’ll begin to notice your thoughts start playing out on their own instead of you actively creating the scenarios... I think here is a good start- you can also tell yourself you will remember your dreams before you go to sleep. As soon as you wake up try to recall. Don’t expect it to happen all the time or right away... but if you keep at it things will happen for you.

I didn't mean dreams so much as OBE's, NDE's, ghosts, etc., *Those* things don't happen not that I wish they would, but like I said, I don't fear it so likely it may not happen, specially if there's negative ulterior motives. Thing is I guess I don't need it to happen as well.

All good. I just meant if you wanted to try having an OBE that recording dreams could be a good gateway.

I welcome it- My fears I think stemmed from childhood. Once when I was a kid I was in bed awake and someone whispered my name directly in my ear- I felt the breath against my skin and it scared the crap out of me lol. My neighbor had weird experiences with ghost and we used to think some were here too. but the imagination really tricks the mind especially so young. Now that I’m older I am able to go in with a calmer and more inquisitive mentality. Im grateful to experience and think it’s rather fun now- even if I feel vulnerable
Time to time.

I don't think I need to try to have an OBE unless it will benefit. It might be a detriment for me.

You might be right SI. I don’t expect us to share the same interest. 

>Last night was another dream- I think my game plan was disturbed by a phone disruption around 2:30AM... will try again tonight.

I'm just happy that I can get a deep sound sleep each night without waking & without dreams.

The dreams I do have just leave a big question mark over my head most times.

Technically you’re still having the dreams- and yes, a good nights sleep is always appreciated! Been going to bed early for exactly that  ;D speaking of which, it’s almost bed time  :o

no luck in my experimentation. i did have an out of body last night. i could barely do it. i heard a girl talking... i think i know her from work. could be a mistake. she said i am the astro. lol that good ole subcon trickery. i ignored the chatter and tried to crawl around. i couldn't stand up while out of body, i was able to crawl to the door. since i didn't have the energy to stand and open it i tried to push my head through the door since i thought i could phase through walls and the like.... once i did this things went black and i woke up and really had to pee. :'(

successful out of body. here is the log written down after waking up:

3-4. 4 attempts. each one becoming more elaborate and slowly turning into dream state before waking up. 4:44AM final time to wake up.
happened after falling back to sleep around 3:00AM and sipping water. layed on back and projected. first time out, i pulled myself out of bed and looked around. let my mind wonder so everything reset. 2nd time out i looked at my arms, realizing i was back in the bed- aware of my body and the feelings and pulled myself back out. this time i came out of body very easily and was almost floating- i couldn't get steady right away and tilted too far into one corner of the room. after regaining balance i started to dance(waltz) around the bedroom. from here something happened and everything reset, i'm back in bed. third time out i again look at my hands and arms in front of me- i think i am beginning to see more of a solid form in the astral. i get out and know i can walk through my bedroom door so i do. nice. i'm at my parents house. walking around i feel an uncomfortable presence in my parents room like i should not enter my dads bedroom, it was an unwanted energy that could have turned my experience into a fearful one. i avoid going that direction. the dogs who are are curious to the commotion outside dads room(thats where they're sleeping) come running out only, they're in the astral too. one of the dogs recognizes me and the other is a little scared at first and pulls back. the energy is playful as we rush down the stairs and head towards the backyard. our astral forms if i remember were like light shells of our physical bodies. not quite the same, like an energetic outline of our physical selves hard to explain. anyways... we go up to the door leading to the backyard and the dogs look at me thinking they need me to open the door... instead i push myself through and they follow suit very quickly(like it was no problem) and run out to grass. i'm laying in the yard under the tree watching the dogs. they come up to me and everything resets, i'm back in bed. now, the 4th time is more of a dream. i push myself out of body and the tv which is off in reality is on but i'm not watching. instead it's a theme song to some show i'm listening in the background. i feel younger too, weird. i get up and pull myself out of body and find someone here, my cousin? are we living together? and am i in a different room? i'm very hungry and i think i'm still in the astral. i must be dreaming at this point but i will ritz cheddar cheese crackers into existence. as i question how i did that i then receive a lecture from who may be my cousin that i left some orange juice outside from the party i held the night before and need to clean it up. as i eat the crackers i begin to realize i'm dreaming and that something is off so i wake up. i tried recording as soon as i've returned. it's now 5:04AM

Really appreciate these entries Eric. They are inspiring. It seems that you have worked at this for sometime—perhaps life times. It is a quality I would like to develop in my own spiritual sadhana. I used to read the out of body experiences of Bob Monroe they brought much spiritual understanding to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM1YoPPGBVM&feature=share

failed out of body turned into repeated lucid dream
last night erm, early this morning i awoke to a ringing in my ear followed by whispers of another language
after this it sounded like chatter, two people in particular talking to each other
i took this as a sign to project out of body but believe i lacked the energy to interact successfully with whatever i may have been tapped into.
i wasn't as afraid like normal, this was nice... but think my lack of sleep and glass of wine from the night before may have interfered on some level.
as i tried to project i was placed into a weird dream which is hard to remember but it was this constant waking up in the dream, pausing 'the play' to acknowledge that i was indeed dreaming, only to have this play start over from the beginning and each time, turning lucid for having to constantly recognize what i was experiencing was not where i was trying to be.

Once I had a perhaps similar experience; when projecting out of body and walking out doors only to recognize that there were things that were not in my common experience of what was outdoors at my house and then I recognized that my OBE was mixing with dream consciousness.

To Eric ( and anyone else who has such experiences ) and your beautiful experiences; https://youtu.be/_Jwk_jg_NDw

groovy steve!  :) i enjoyed this clip before my time.  :D

unique experience:

this morning i felt the sensations allowing for an out of body experience. as the feelings slowly crept over me i started to hear someone talking to somebody else. i was open and intent on listening to this conversation. i even think they made a reference to me, suggesting i could not hear them. speaking was very difficult. it required a lot of energy and felt slow.
i said "hello. i can hear you. can you hear me?" he said yes. i replied again, "i can hear you" i asked, "who are you?" he didn't reply with an answer. i was so excited to be talking to someone else. for some reason i thought to ask, "what kind of music do you like?" i was very happy. there was no reply. again i said, "can you tell me your name?" he told me to shut up. i replied, "only if you tell me who you are" and then, very aggressively, he replied in a low growl and i felt a tone of reverberation "NO"
surprised, I tried to relay the aggressive feeling back to him, "NO" I said in the same manner.

after this the conversation ceased... I was given another opportunity to project again. In this first projection I could not see the people and i couldn't really leave my body, like all my energy was focused on having a conversation. What was interesting to note was this was the clearest projection of my, "Astral" self I've ever seen. what i mean is, at one point i DID try to leave my body before our convo and i only saw my fingertips as literal ghost-like energy. I could feel them, see their outlining and see through them. I even wiggled and flared my fingers about, fascinated by how clear things were. Everything was exact to where I rest my head on the bed to how I observe the furniture in my room. Sometimes the ghost like fingertips would turn into dark whispy shadows going on/off again from ghost like outlining to shadow.

So, onto the second projection... my dogs were laying by my sides this morning and the boy dog was also in the astral space with me, his body had that same ghostly outlining- you could FEEL him and his presence better then you could see him but i did see him and he was wagging his tail. this time someone honed in on me and the voice was much different... the voice felt distant and only partly human maybe partly robotic, someone was explaining to me why i was hearing people talking, how I had gotten there but I can't remember any of it. I had projected successfully and my astral self was sitting up against the wall in my bedroom listening to this person talking. They were giving me so much information and talking at a more comfortable speed, I felt like I hadn't the energy to relay back or even retain what they were saying. after this I woke up to find my boy dog sleeping next to me, he wasn't sitting up like he was in the astral, and I fell back asleep and slipped into a lucid dream...

here's the journal entry for the recent out of body

Exploring my territory. This one was rather exhaustive. I woke up in a dream, and then found myself in my bedroom. I am having a hard time collect the details. Just waking up there is a heavy fog on my mind. I remember this time actually seeing my body laying there and like a kid I was putting my hands out going, "ok good. good. there i am. all safe and sound." When I pushed out of the window to go outside, it was really bright despite it being actually dark(it's just now 4:30AM and the sun isn't up) Well... there was a bright moon, and the more I focused and noticed there was an even brighter sun further behind that radiating vividly. It was surreal. I came back to my bedroom. Was I awake yet? No, something was still off. My bedroom door was cracked opened, the light from the hallway was peeping in and there was a white bathrobe hanging on the ledge of my door with a cat hidden inside it! Its paw was on the edge of my door and I told the cat to close my door. I said, "closeeee!" and slowly but surely the cat peeked his head from out of the bathrobe and closed my door. It was kinda cute/funny. I actually spent a lot of time in my bedroom not doing much of anything except noticing slight differences, and feeling out my surroundings. I really think I was drifting in and out of dreaming to projecting. This time I again woke up and felt like something was still off. I opened my eyes from my bedroom and walked into the guest bedroom. "Well if I am stuck here I might as well take this time to explore." And I went down to the front door, phased through the window and went onto the street. I saw a woman walking two little kids, what's going on? I remember feeling so free, sliding and gliding around. The kids were running down the street laughing and playing. I felt like I was laughing and playing with them. I wonder if they could see me? They were paying no mind and the older woman did not seem to notice me either. I was hovering just above the pavement and glided on my side towards the two little girls and I stuck my hands out in front of me, "HIIIII." They actually waved at me and said hi right back! With that I zoomed off down the street and immediately woke up in my bedroom for real this time. The heavy fog is now lifting off my mind. It's about 4:50AM.

Just now remembering additional details... When I projected onto my street for the last time, it wasn't as bright as it was when I tried peering outside the backyard with the first projection. It was more reflective of the actual time. I also did not know the time to be 4 in the morning.
I remember when I was laying in bed trying to project I flared my fingers and noticed the "astral" hand half-way out from the actual hand. I somehow locked onto the fainter outline version of myself which changed my awareness/identification. And... lastly, when I felt stuck. I thought I was stuck there for who knows how long- but the thought crossed my mind that maybe I choked or died in my sleep and that's why I am stuck here or, 'there' rather.

I woke up feeling very energized.

I had an out of body experience this morning. I was able to project successfully at least 3 times. Unsure why I kept restarting from my bed, but I did... And by the 2nd and 3rd time there was a woman in my house. She seemed unsure how she got there. We were talking about astral bodies and I asked her how she was able to come into my space. She told me she didn't know, and can only project on Wednesdays(It's now Friday). She told me her name was Robyn, she was tall and blonde. She seemed uncertain overall and told me she hopes that we are practicing good magic and not dark magic.

I had woken up to use the restroom. Upon falling back asleep I project out of my body quite easily. My mind somehow relocates my starting position to my old bedroom across the hall. As if I am rising out of my body from that room. I mentally comment how easy it was to sit up and separate from my body. I can even see the skin tone on the backside of my hands- observing my astral limbs- arms stretched out and fingers spread apart. There's a weird gloss in the empty space between my vision and my hands. I decide to slowly walk towards the door and notice the hall light on the other side. As I walk up to the door I hear the floor creaking beneath me. This strikes me as odd and is something I actively take note of, I don't normally hear my footsteps when walking around in my astral body. I seamlessly phase through the door and am observing the sensations. This too is getting easier, and I find it pleasant. Phasing through the door feels like a bubble pushing through matter(instead of popping).

The tone shifts as I move slowly down the stairs and it begins to feel like there's someone else in the space with me. I try not to fear, but feel a creeping sensation of uneasiness rising in my chest- I am moving even slower, treading very carefully as I position my point of focus just right. I can't shake whatever feeling surrounds me. As I turn the corner I look off to the left into the living room and see no reflection from the blackness of the TV, I think maybe someone is laying down on the couch. I try not to stay here too long. I proceed down the hall with caution and look over to the right, the bathroom door is ajar and I begin hissing very aggressively/defensively at whatever is now in my space. It is a unique and threatening sound and I realize I have no reflection in the bathroom mirror. I wake back up in bed.

I lay on my back with my eyes open- there is still a lingering sensation of uneasiness. It feels early... I begin to wonder- did I project out from my body or was this a lucid dream? As I recall things of note, like waking up in my old bedroom instead of the one I'm currently sleeping in- or that the hall light was left on even though it is actually off- the floor creaks around my door(just like in the projection experience). The house feels deathly silent as I hone my focus in on the sound. What is lingering just out there? It's not heavy enough to be a person, is it the dog? It takes maybe a few steps before getting even lighter and disappearing altogether. Definitely not the dog. I decide to log the experience, time 3:27AM.

PS, after the creaking noise disappeared I noticed a snapping of light in my eyes/lines quickly moving about in my room.

This will never happen to me. If it did, I doubt I would come back, probably why.

I think the coming and going happens, consciously or not.

Recent OBE:
This mornings projection was, different. It is almost bed time now too- so I am recording for the first time since then.

I woke up at 5AM with a regular amount of energy. I was somewhat tired, but also awake. I thought maybe I could use this opportunity to meditate. Instead I decided to lay on my back, knowing my alarm would go off at 7:20AM and thought I'd welcome an out of body if one were to come.

When the onset of sleep paralysis started to happen, I was overcome with joy. I used to be scared, but it had been so long since I've been in this in-between state that I found my self very welcoming. I'm a little embarrassed to say, but as I was drifting off into a semi-conscious state of sleep and awake I found my self pleading/praying to god for physical, intimate connection.

Well... I think the prayer was answered. I do think there was something/someone else with me as I became more aware of existing outside the immediate anchor point for awareness. I started to project and saw things as black and white only, more surreal. It was actually like wispy shadows and brilliant shining white light. As I attempted a traditional, "bodily exit" I saw my hand in this black and white world as a gentle smoldering smokey shadow.

I immediately noticed another body laying next to me, I think, projecting in a similar manner. To my right, I saw a brilliant white light for a hand. Instinctively I put my shadow hand up towards it, and its hand towards mine. As our palms came together it was as if there was a sheer electric barrier between us- as contact was made this invisible barrier crackled. It was black and white, but felt like lightning around us. Or like a strobe effect.

I can't remember much more but started to feel very aroused. I was half awake, half asleep and I found my self laying on my back- I don't know if I was dreaming this or actually raising my arms and legs up under the blanket. I was receiving, wanting more... And I don't know if what I encountered was an aspect of my self- and I could not identify a male or female energy. But it felt very good.

After this I started to drift, still in-between I noticed an object in the corner of my room that is not actually there. The environment started to shape-shift. This object turned into a dramatized face made of stone, its transformation was like that of a gargoyles. I believe I was starting to dream at this point...

Eric;

I have a question for you here. When you have a true OBE do you temporarily transcend physical desires? It seems like you would see your body as a sort of dead lifeless garment left behind.

Steve,

Not sure how to answer that. You use words like, "true OBE" and I can tell you- from my OBE's that there is still a body- and sometimes there is still sensual experiences.
And then, at other times, there is not a body but more like visions. "Formless awareness"

Other times I am roaming through the eyes of others.

Most of my OBE's I am not hungry... But I've read of people who experience taste and smell. I am told smelling things come later.

I recall an OBE with my "astral body" stumbling around my bedroom just trying to stand up. It was difficult, like I was walking around like a drunkard. Things were more black and white with a static haze. I considered this a true OBE.

Then I recall an OBE of gliding downstairs. I finally learned how to phase through my door and windows. But in reality you only need to concentrate hard enough to "appear" where you want to.

I have also seen interesting colors and unique visuals without a "body" and I also consider these true OBE's.

Most of the times my will is not strong enough, the more I try to exert it the more I've descended into non-lucid dreams. Like trying to climb past the stars. I can't seem to do it. Only the one time, in 2008 did the experience occur so effortlessly. That's because there were greater forces at play initiating me at a dream level...

I've shared an "astral shell" with another consciousness who chose the name Abigail. In fact she came into my astral body- and I remember feeling her personality in unique ways. Suddenly letters would fly across empty space like she was learning what I knew in regards to language. I felt her giggling and I remember crawling out my bedroom to greet my dogs, it was what she wanted to do- before we stood up and glided. We were mesmerized by the "construct" of an astral body. It may have only been something the mind needed in order to understand the experience... Because by the end of it all we were in my backyard and she was teaching me OM- as a vibratory state responsible for all manifestation, like being born from a single line of vibration creating this 3D experience. As she chanted OM this construct of an astral body would lift up and we were slowly stretching out- joyously, and collapsing and/or vacuuming into "nothing."

So... Ideas of an astral body aren't always necessary to experience an OBE... There are still senses and sensations...

And sometimes not so easily understood... Like- during a conscious OBE... Somehow two and a half hours passed with what felt like a 5 minute experience... There was no sound- just an orb of light descending into my body. I think reflecting on that, that orb was an aspect of my self. That "black and white" environment was more a gray space...

It's not an easy question, because... we are trying to compare to the way we understand our senses and identify with the immediate physical body in waking state. The trick being we think our awareness is limited to/anchored to this physical body alone.

You spent a lot of time and energy on the last post. It will take sometime to grok if I am able to connect on that level and platform. Thanks for trying to express what takes place in many OBE’s.

Few people think about it. But for those that do, it becomes a very important to them. Why? Because in reality we are in bondage to these bodies we inhabit. We live in them for a lifetime and must suffer the pain and limitations of bondage associated with them. Unless we have had numerous out of body experiences, had astral projection or near death experiences we have only the knowledge of these bodies. In experiences associated with meditation and other spiritual practices we are given glimpses of other realities not associated with these bodies.  We identify and experience a lifetime in such small and limiting conditions!