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Title: Plato Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Aug 19, 2016 08:48 pm Probably by 'the mind' Plato meant 'The soul', or more strictly the unbiased causal body. Plato's mind was located in what we call the causal realm, so really not strictly the soul, so arguably far from the petty individual weaknesses and biases. http://www.stenudd.com/greekphilosophers/plato.htm http://apatheticagnostic.com/articles/meds/med01/med013.html Title: Re: Plato Post by: mccoy on Aug 21, 2016 12:58 am The majority of the incorrigible ones are rulers, Socrates states: "most of those in power, my excellent friend, prove to be bad." On the other hand, when a mighty man lives righteously, this is cause for praise: "when a man with a perfectly free hand for injustice lives always a just life." Socrates evidently doubted that there would be many with such freedom, who would refrain from using it viciously.
Title: Re: Plato Post by: Willie the Shake on Sep 28, 2016 03:25 pm The majority of the incorrigible ones are rulers, Socrates states: "most of those in power, my excellent friend, prove to be bad." On the other hand, when a mighty man lives righteously, this is cause for praise: "when a man with a perfectly free hand for injustice lives always a just life." Socrates evidently doubted that there would be many with such freedom, who would refrain from using it viciously. The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool. Title: Re: Plato Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on May 15, 2024 06:52 am The majority of the incorrigible ones are rulers, Socrates states: "most of those in power, my excellent friend, prove to be bad." On the other hand, when a mighty man lives righteously, this is cause for praise: "when a man with a perfectly free hand for injustice lives always a just life." Socrates evidently doubted that there would be many with such freedom, who would refrain from using it viciously. Plato’s view (Socrates student). ⬇️ I suppose Socrates would classify those in power as what Plato would call the ‘appetite soul’. [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: Plato Post by: mccoy on May 15, 2024 10:43 pm Quote Plato’s proposal of the World of Ideas and World of Senses is known as Plato’s Dichotomy of Existence or two realm concept. That the whole of reality exists at two levels. The World of Ideas is immutable, immortal and non-temporal — A place where substance or universal aspect or essence of everything in the World of Senses comes from. The World of Senses is transient, mortal and temporal — A place where copies of substance or universal aspects or essence of what is real, exists — a place of imitation of reality. This is the place where we ordinary humans live.... Plato’s rationale for his belief in the two worlds If we wish to know the meaning of concepts such as beauty, sweet and justice, we can only point towards the objects that illustrate these concepts. Meaning, such concepts are only exemplified and not actually found in the World of the Senses. Therefore, these concepts must come from somewhere else — The World of Ideas. As a matter of fact, there is nothing in the World of Senses that corresponds to a perfect circle, but still the concept of a perfect circle exists in our minds. Those who had a lifelong exposure to hindy philosophy, like Steve and myself, grasp instantaneously the meaning of Plato's cosmic model. What I emphasized, is strictly related to the 'vast spheres of thought' cited by Anandamoy. Plato's world of ideas is the causal world, where the spheres of thought dwell, whence everything we can think of has an origin. |