Spiritual Portal

Isn't it wonderful to find friends we have not seen in years? To suddenly have them return in our lives? i have had that happened and now i can understand the significance of some of these people and what God was trying to show me through them. We can often compare what we have learned through the years and gain so much wisdom from it! U always look at things much different after years of reflection and spiritual insight.

It is quite a feeling to talk to someone you have known all your life. Some people have this affect of creating peace in your soul and relief and understanding in your perceptions. They may have a kindness about them that infiltrates your being and you are soothed by their vibrations. Others are so at war with themselves that it is difficult to be in their presence and there r yet others that u may feel indifferent about.

Sometimes it can b very confusing. When someone treats you so kind but then later reacts to you as though you are a rock... a stone. We have to ask ourselves what would make a human being be this insensitive? What has caused this kind/type of deep sadness and coldness.

Surprisingly i have seen kindness return to such individuals and they have actually said they were sorry. So there is hope. Keep praying for such individuals. You never know when their heart may open again. What i have found is that some people seek control of circumstances and people in their life. This can be one reason. Life is full of changes though we cannot control others and their choices. We have to roll with the changes.

Love is not letting the door hit them on their way out.

i really think that is a nice quote. Usually i have a sense of humor about it all. But believe it or not some people may tell you that they would swing the door back at your mouth if u have anything thing left to say. You may find that even your sense of humor is not appreciated.

It is a good one. I can't claim to have originated it. I heard some other wise person use it in a similar context. It is true, though, not mere sarcasm. It is with love and well wishes that we should part ways with people. Because we know sometimes it's the way it has to be.

A sage once said that the people you met in life, as well as the duration of association, is all predetermined and therefore don't regret when the association comes to an end.

I really appreciate your point of view on this b. i can relate your comments to a relationship i had with a dear friend not so long ago  and the circumstances surrounding us. While i do not disagree with some or your points.... i believe i finally hooked onto an understanding of the main purpose of the relationship- that is that there was a gravity and seriousness about it that exceeded any balance that could have manifested common ground and reconciliation as friends. Notice i am not blaming my friend but rather i am talking about an energy field that manifested surrounding us that was a carry over from previous incarnation events. In this sense this tread does not coincide with what your post triggered because it is about the very opposite: friends that never have returned. We can easly look back and see how people-including us- have taken ourselves and circumstances far too seriously.

Brock, That's a fatalistic view in line with your views on the issue. I cannot confirm not deny it, although I sure appreciate the end of it: don't regret when the association comes to an end. Associations come, associations go...

Yes but every time it does i feel i could have done just little bit better and next time and every time i will learn and get better and better at this and being kind so eventually they will not b able to have bad thoughts about me unless it is just a product of their own attitudes. i pray for them all... every day...every person i have had the blessings to b with!

I'm grateful for everyone I've known that has shared the light of Universe into my life, in whatever duration or capacity.

I believe it all happens exactly as it does.


I just wanted to check in and say "hi" Steve, and everyone else on here.  This website and the friendships I've made through it have brought great blessings into my Life, and I am very grateful.  I would be a blind fool not to be grateful.  And I wouldn't be hear without the betrayal of a former friend who I was very close to... one ship sails and others come to shore, the beautiful cycle of Life.  All praise to the One that is All.

<3

Kingfisher, I introduced you here thinking you'd enjoy this space and the company.

You feeling betrayed because something didn't go your way?  ???

Thanks kingfisher. Hope u stay around this time around. Haven't heard from u in a while. How is your music coming along and your spiritual life?

What i have found over the years is that circumstances have changed many of my friends attitudes towards me. Sometimes we need to look at these circumstances and the changes. We often find that friends do not circumvent changes in a constructive way.  It is more difficult for me to see when i myself do not roll with the changes. Yet often we have to come to some conclusion within ourselves. It is spiritual nature to try and understand what has happened in our lives; to us and those who have come and left in our lives. To just write it off has something that just happened and now is gone is to diminish the significance of life encounters. In fact every incident is intricately orchestrated the more we r in tune to divine order in our lives.


i find your comment rather interesting Eric. i cannot answer for others but only for myself. If u spend a lot of energy and time with someone and they suddenly leave your life with little or no explanation u must come to terms with it in some way. It does not seem unreasonable to conclude that some betrayal to that time shared has taken place. i mean we r not like disposable cans. Actually if we could see our lives and the many incarnations we have lived we do have a responsibility to how long we associate with others and how we treat them. While it is true that we shouldn't be attached to the outcomes we can and often must come to certain conclusions until we receive further information. It this way we learn to have appropriate responses to situations.

This was the post that started this thread:

i believe that maintaining a certain connection with old friends affirms faith in the continuity of life. We meet again later in life or in some other state or incarnation. But our meetings become very disjointed and hard to facilitate when we separate ourselves intentionally from others out of anger or misunderstandings. We may even notice the difficulty in distance and in circumstances when we first met the person in this life. This is no doubt in part due to the fact that we may have left them or they left us without a harmonious departure in the past. We can always show kindness towards those we have spent significant time with and if they do not show the same we can think of them and pray for them in kindness. i believe that after all is said and appears to b done we can be kind to one another. This element is often missing.  i believe we can still talk if both parties can remain kind and can do so with love. This is the test and the great spiritual challenge we face with others in our spiritual evolution.

Be kind to your past. It is part of your life. Be kind to your memories. Open up you heart and mind. If we have a difficult time looking at others it is also difficult to look at ourselves since we r facing aspects of ourselves in others. When we r able to see the inner beauty in others then we can also see it in ourselves.

Thanks Steve for your insights.  I think I agree with most of what you say, and I especially like this sentence.

I'm now at peace, and just have love for the people who I've been close to and am currently close to.  All blessings.

I also hope I am wiser now to chose to commit to friendships and relationships with people who have proven to be worthy of it.  Clearly, it has been a major lesson for me in this life to do the opposite for a bit.


I'm grateful for opportunities for personal growth, and wish the same for all of you (:

Spiritual life is good.

Music is good.


Taking things slow and steady in a positive direction currently Steve.   


Love and blessings to you Steve.

i have picked some acquaintances that were rather treacherous also. i believe it is a karmic situation. Once bitten twice shy as the saying goes. Paramahansa Yogananda has said you can never really trust someone who has proven treacherous. However WE can always be kind in our words and actions even though others may not be. That shows spiritual maturity.

I agree with that Steve.

Nothing but love for you, and all of my teachers friend.  Some teachers teach with wisdom, some with treachery, some with silence.

I feel blessed for it all.

Actually, now that I think about it Eric, I'd say everything went the way it needed to  :P

I'd think at that point you wouldn't feel so much betrayed anymore.

glad you're able to move forward with such a positive perspective.

When one door closes another opens

i cannot speak for Art... for me though..its not so much betrayal... but the longer people stay away the more you realize how little they really cared.... especially if u tried to contact them. It becomes easier and easier to move forward once u realize what u r really dealing with and that there r much kinder people around who r there for u. Unless u like being a martyr... u can help people but where ever they go ...some people bring their own pain to others. It's a sickness i can do without.

U have to b a spiritual doctor to help such people. We have to recognize our own limitations in what we can do if we do not we can catch the dis-ease ourselves. Our only remedy is to take strong 'pain-killers' and refrain from further contact or remain at arms length from catching the dis-ease. Until someone has overcome their own pain they will continue to inflict it on others. What u see in such people is a pattern of delays followed by taking the path of least resistance... leaving their past in shambles.

"There is a Taoist story of an old farmer who had worked his crops for many years. One day his horse ran away. Upon hearing the news, his neighbors came to visit.

"Such bad luck," they said sympathetically.

"We'll see," the farmer replied.

The next morning the horse returned, bringing with it three other wild horses.

"How wonderful," the neighbors exclaimed.

"We'll see," replied the old man.

The following day, his son tried to ride one of the untamed horses, was thrown, and broke his leg. The neighbors again came to offer their sympathy on his misfortune.

"We'll see," answered the farmer.

The day after, military officials came to the village to draft young men into the army. Seeing that the son's leg was broken, they passed him by. The neighbors congratulated the farmer on how well things had turned out.

"We'll see" said the farmer."

Really liked your 🚶 story art. Life is that way. It is very difficult to know the end results of any amount of given events. Life's a dance 💃 u learn as u go.

As I've heard hippies used to say, "feelings aren't facts"

Even if betrayal of an agreement or trust happens in a relationship, what can we do but let go and move forward?  Sometimes, it is just out of our hands, and Surrender is the only way to Peace...


Here's two more things that you might like aya:

"Everyone is doing the best they can" - one of the most popular beliefs of the most successful people according to Tony Robbins

"What others do to me is their karma.  How I respond is my karma"


And things are never quite as they seem anyway (see the Taoist parable I posted above)

One door closes, another opens...  then that door closes, and another opens... then...

Life is Change

hi art,

when the grim reaper comes for me i hope i leave this plane with gratitude for all i've experienced

https://youtu.be/7uMGH3kHhzM

That's a great video!

Didn't mean to sound so heavy... "enjoy the ride" indeed  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgzQuE1pR1w

love him

“The treasure of friendship is your richest possession, because it goes with you beyond this life. All the true friends you have made you will meet again in the home of the Father, for real love is never lost.”

— Paramahansa Yogananda

I’m thinking we should be receptive to any little act of kindness others reach out to give us. Most people are not able to keep a steady stream of kindness towards us. They may have sudden breakthroughs themselves and then fall back into old patterns and habits of living. But it is good for us to reach out to them when such occasions manifest. They may remember our receptivity to them.

We can also recognize in ourselves sudden moments of awakening or spiritual and empathic moments of experience that took us out of the ordinary and helped us recognize the extraordinary. In the same way, we may be reaching out to others so we can experience a steady flow of the extraordinary in more of our days of routine existence. I just have certain epiphanies from time to time.

It is my recognition about people we meet also.  We can only continue talking and attempting to be friends until we realize the rest is up to them. We cannot force issues. We can only improve ourselves and our efforts. So in that sense there is a similarity with people and meditating.