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Title: Why does music excite the soul?
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jan 10, 2016 05:32 am
Music seems to be one of the closest things to the astral realms  and  appears to originate there. I asked a monk once when I lived in a monastery; Why is it some people come to this plain with so much talent? He told me that they study in some regions of the astral realms before coming to earth.


Title: Re: Why does music excite the soul?
Post by: SpiritImage on Jan 10, 2016 06:17 am
Music seems to be one of the closest things to the astral realms  and  appears to originate there. I asked a monk once when I lived in a monastery; Why is it some people come to this plain with so much talent? He told me that they study in some regions of the astral realms before coming to earth.

Or they desired to have such talent.

Re: Why does music excite the soul? When you hear your favorite music played back on a soulful system, it can move the very soul.


Title: Re: Why does music excite the soul?
Post by: mccoy on Jan 12, 2016 12:47 am
Music seems to be one of the closest things to the astral realms  and  appears to originate there. I asked a monk once when I lived in a monastery; Why is it some people come to this plain with so much talent? He told me that they study in some regions of the astral realms before coming to earth.

That's an interesting explanation for talent. Fresh experience in a very stimulating environment with a very receptive mental setup.

And what about exceptional mathematicians like Perelman, the modern (crazy) Genius if mathematics? They refined their skills of wordly life in the astral setup, working on their astral brain.

Yes, the practice of incarnations plus the refinement in the astral setup, that would definitely explain inhuman talents.


Title: Re: Why does music excite the soul?
Post by: guest88 on Jan 13, 2016 10:08 pm
i think because music is a universal language that stirs our emotions and opens the gates to creation



Title: Re: Why does music excite the soul?
Post by: mccoy on Jan 14, 2016 10:56 am
A little OT, but soul may excite the lower material proclivities as well. It's a matter of patterns.

So the title of this post should more rigorously sound like 'Why does some kind of music excite the soul?

The answers given above are pretty generic, no offence at all meant for SI and EricB. My answer is still worse since I have no answer, lol.

But I can tell you that the pattern is relevant here. We should fall back on the science of psychoacoustics and underline which are the harmonies and melodies and patterns typical of spiritual music and which are the ones typical of other musics.

This way we'd have an objective answer.

Then there is the subjective answer, one piece of music I like may cause headache to others (it definitely is so!)

So spiritual music objectively inspires spiritual thoughts, whereas, according to our own mental patterns, even other kinds of music may excite the soul.

I am excited by the melodic minor changes and melodies played in jazz music and improvisation, for example, with many dissonant notes and tritones.

Whereas tritones were called 'the devil in music' just a few centuries ago.
 


Title: Re: Why does music excite the soul?
Post by: Demian on Jan 20, 2016 04:03 am
I am fond of music I think because it is so amoral. Everything else is moral and I am after something that isn't. I have always found moralizing intolerable.

A little OT, but soul may excite the lower material proclivities as well. It's a matter of patterns.

So the title of this post should more rigorously sound like 'Why does some kind of music excite the soul?

The answers given above are pretty generic, no offence at all meant for SI and EricB. My answer is still worse since I have no answer, lol.

But I can tell you that the pattern is relevant here. We should fall back on the science of psychoacoustics and underline which are the harmonies and melodies and patterns typical of spiritual music and which are the ones typical of other musics.

This way we'd have an objective answer.

Then there is the subjective answer, one piece of music I like may cause headache to others (it definitely is so!)

So spiritual music objectively inspires spiritual thoughts, whereas, according to our own mental patterns, even other kinds of music may excite the soul.

I am excited by the melodic minor changes and melodies played in jazz music and improvisation, for example, with many dissonant notes and tritones.

Whereas tritones were called 'the devil in music' just a few centuries ago.
 




Title: Re: Why does music excite the soul?
Post by: mccoy on Jan 23, 2016 04:04 pm
I am fond of music I think because it is so amoral. Everything else is moral and I am after something that isn't. I have always found moralizing intolerable.

Demian, let's get back to teh definition of 'moral': Of or concerned with the judgment of right or wrong of human action and character



Can music be concerned with the right of wrong? Lyrics can be moral or amoral of course, whereas music on itself may be by ways of its vibrations.

Religious music can inspire moral principles, whereas other kinds of music may have the opposite effect.

Again, individual susceptibilities are important in the context


Title: Re: Why does music excite the soul?
Post by: Demian on Jan 27, 2016 12:37 pm
I am fond of music I think because it is so amoral. Everything else is moral and I am after something that isn't. I have always found moralizing intolerable.

Demian, let's get back to teh definition of 'moral': Of or concerned with the judgment of right or wrong of human action and character



Can music be concerned with the right of wrong? Lyrics can be moral or amoral of course, whereas music on itself may be by ways of its vibrations.

Religious music can inspire moral principles, whereas other kinds of music may have the opposite effect.

Again, individual susceptibilities are important in the context



Every important cultural gesture comes down to a morality, a model for human behavior concentrated into a gesture.  The gesture and display of morality in artists is replaced by aesthetics. Whoever wants music instead of noise, joy instead of pleasure, soul instead of gold, creative work instead of business, passion instead of foolery, finds no home in this trivial world of ours.


Title: Re: Why does music excite the soul?
Post by: kingfisher111 on Aug 15, 2016 12:16 am
I think maybe it acts as a metaphor for everything else in life?

I'm not sure, but it is a very deep connection to the Soul...

Also, Uni-Verse (One Word), everything is vibration, waves, sound wave, light waves, etc.  some we experience as visual artwork, some as sound, harmonious and cacophonous... just another perspective..