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I have had my differences with spiritual friends. Today 
I was  reminded of the importance of these friends. People who
think of God, meditate and serve God have unusual
and miraculous experiences that strengthen our faith
and spiritual resolutions.

°Jitendra°

hi jitendra
like the heavens answering in ways that defy rational thought
in symbols, people, dreams
trials and messages that reflect your inner potential from source divine encouraging you to live the game of life-
god wants me involved and so god test me, sometimes i forget where my struggles come from and shut down in ignorance(its ok to be afraid !)
until once again, these symbols reappear and the sweet mystery that is the beauty of god whispers in my ear and tugs at my heart !
love your dog avatar  8)

lets keep being ourselves and see where this journey takes us !
i AM young and i DON'T want to run away ANYMORE ! : ) ! !

abysmaltouch,

These words you speak, ring true for me too.
 " Heavens answering .... symbols, people, dreams .... messages ..... from source divine ......"

Sweet mystery  :)

Spirit blessings,

Spirit fox

Jitendra,

Sometimes it is in these differences, that an understanding is found that wasn't there before

Spirit blessings,

Spirit fox

Yes I agree. It is in a willingness to admit we are not
always rite that leads to understanding. For instance:
If 2 people both follow their intuition yet their
intution is different about the same matter it is
then time to accept the fact that there has to
be some deeper reflection and thought given
by both parties otherwise communication
will break down.

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This is from another forum- Thought we could make use of it here as well,
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Michigan, US of A, April 21, 2013.
Teacher Ophelius.
Subject: “Each According to their Needs.”

Received by Chris.

Ophelius: “The message for today is about learning to be aware of the spiritual needs of others, and giving to them that spiritual love and light that is inside of you. This can be achieved by recognizing the level of love that they can accept – where they are in their spiritual journey, and giving to them that part they can receive without injury to their current beliefs and understandings. This is the path to unconditional love and enlightenment. Only by example will others see the light that is in you, and so will they become curious about who you are, and what it is you have that makes you so bright and full of the Father’s love.

“As students on the path, this method of recognizing the needs of others, and attenuating the level of love and truth they can receive, is one of the most difficult to master and it requires that you become completely selfless and attentive to the specific needs of that individual who is seeking spiritual love and guidance, but who is not consciously aware of that need. There are many on your world that are in need of this kind of love and guidance, and they will be drawn to the light that you have if they feel the unconditional trust and assurance that they will not be judged.

“You must carry a sense of peace and loving kindness in your interactions with others, and always should you listen for feedback from your Indwelling Spirit as you listen to the need or unspoken desire of those in your presence. See each person as a soul, like yourself, who is growing, but always understanding that they are at a different place along the path to eternity. Have patience, and learn to listen more than to console. When they feel safe and free from judgment, they will open the door for greater light to come in. Your Indwelling Spirit will make you aware of the opportunity, and you can share that part of the light that will not blind them.

“For some it may take years of exposure to your example before progress can be made. For others, they will open up like a flower to the early morning sun, and so shall you always evaluate your thoughts and adjust to the moment. Over watering a flower will not help it to grow faster, for it must have only enough light and moister according to its needs. Just as you care for the flowers on your patio, observing the state of the leaves and feeling the soil for moisture, do you know whether or not it needs watering, and so shall you observe and feel for how others are needing love and light.

“In this way, my friends, can you, as light workers who are dedicated to changing the contrast of this planet from one of ignorance and darkness to one of love and light, be truly effective. The more aware you are of your own thoughts and actions will you be able to discern the needs of others and be of service. Being a co-creator in the Great Plan requires this learning and teaching experience, and this is something that you will be doing throughout your ascendant careers as you move inward toward perfection. The Father gives each according to their needs and so by living the will of the Father, you are doing the works of the Father.

“Peace to you,
“The Circle of Seven.”

© The 11:11 Progress Group.
“The giving of self, the illumination of truth, and the relief of suffering
are the noblest paths to higher consciousness.” – Teacher Ophelius, 2009.

hi fox :)

Trying to help others in their spiritual evolvement becomes difficult when it becomes evident that it is not a reciprocal relationship. I am also recognizing that there are beings that come to the earth plane that we are unable to give them what
we have recieved from them. This is my example: when I see others who take advantage of our good nature either
unconsciously or even worst: consciously. I wonder of this teacher Ophelius. It is very true that we must recognize that
when there is given more than can be assimilated we have to back off and let the plant grow in its own time.
Good article dragonpie.

Jitendra

Ophelius: “The message for today is about learning to be aware of the spiritual needs of others, and giving to them that spiritual love and light that is inside of you. This can be achieved by recognizing the level of love that they can accept – where they are in their spiritual journey, and giving to them that part they can receive without injury to their current beliefs and understandings. This is the path to unconditional love and enlightenment. Only by example will others see the light that is in you, and so will they become curious about who you are, and what it is you have that makes you so bright and full of the Father’s love.

'Recognizing the level they can accept and giving them what you can without injury to their beliefs.'

Wow what a statement  Eric! I hope to put this into practice.

Having spiritual friends are as Paramahansa Yogananda said; they are 'soul soldiers' from the past who come to aid us in times of trouble and need. Without such presences sometimes we may go off the deep end and react in very unspiritual ways towards other people by treating them as they may have wrongly treated us. Then again, some of these difficulties we have with others may possibly be to remind us what friends and fortunate circumstances we do have so we are grateful and appreciative of their presences. Often i am reminded of the help that flows from a Guru and spiritual friends.

Yogananda had a conversation with Sri Yukteswar that was related in the Autobiography of a Yogi in which they agreed to help one another if one of them should fall. This is the true meaning of spiritual friendship. We are there to help one another and remind each other of how far we have come and where we are traveling when we loose are way.

"I give you my unconditional love."

Precious words! A quarter-century elapsed before I had another auricular proof of his love. His lips were strange to ardor; silence became his oceanic heart.

"Will you give me the same unconditional love?" He gazed at me with childlike trust.

"I will love you eternally, Gurudeva!"

"Ordinary love is selfish, darkly rooted in desires and satisfactions. Divine love is without condition, without boundary, without change. The flux of the human heart is gone forever at the transfixing touch of pure love." He added humbly, "If ever you find me falling from a state of God-realization, please promise to put my head on your lap and help to bring me back to the Cosmic Beloved we both worship." Last paragraph quote~ Sri Yukteswar from the Autobiography of a Yogi


Jitendra

Have you noticed how some people just make you feel high? They don't even need to be close to enlightened. Some people just make you feel real good and most of the time. The times they do not you seem to easily overlook because of how they lifted you up at various other times.

It helps to be around others who do their spiritual.practice. It encourages you. Most people are extremely restless. They always need to be entertained or doing something. But when the mind settles we find there is something that is much more important then all this constant commotion; constant activity.

Still have yet to find anybody around me that is like minded.

U r speaking with him. Space; another illusion of the mind. Seekers also have their differences but they have the strongest of bonds.

No differences that matter, space is becoming less relevant for sure.

Space; the final frontier?

It's really quite a privilege to have a few friends that have similar interests reinforcing those interests and helping one another along the way. Some people will never realize the true significance of having spiritual friends that we grow with from life to life. Instead they will fall back into old patterns and life styles which encourage material desires and physical comforts and prolong and encourage more earthly desires.... short lived and trapping them in longer and longer sojourns to and fro in the physical worlds. i really appreciate the unique spiritual contributions that Eric, Jeff, mccoy, Art and Brock have added lately to this forum. Thanks for your friendships!!

There is so much we have yet to learn as spiritual beings. Often we look at those around us and see the uniqueness and complexity of human nature. God works thru friends to break down our concepts about reality so we can incorporate a larger more expansive view of the universe we are slowly blooming open too.

Warm, close friendships may be the key to slowing the mental decline associated with aging, says a new study from Northwestern Medicine Feinberg School of Medicine. Super-Agers, those who are 80 years of age and older who maintain the cognitive abilities of those in their 50s and 60s, report they have more satisfying, high-quality relationships than their peers who have average cognitive ability

Spiritual Friends are like animal totems or astrology readings-they give us clues to self knowledge and spiritual awakening.

People that support you in your interests are more valuable than gold. Because gold will be gone after this life but spiritual friends are come alongs! They travel along with us from life to life and we merge in common efforts and missions.

It is wonderful about having friends that you can share visions and dreams and experiences with together. It makes life not only meaningful but also pleasurable.

Sometimes we have severe challenges in friendship. It is best to just be graceful and kind about such matters and if others are not kind enough to explain just remember what you do not want to become and recognize what you are leaving behind.

There is also spiritual selfishness. These are the kind of people who can not give of themselves though they claim to be spiritual.... they will not even offer their spiritual knowledge and awareness to others. Everything they have learned and experienced they keep to themselves when sharing can benefit them and those they encounter.

As we look back on the blessings of our lives we recognize that some friends have given us a part of Gods love. It is something that stays with us forever. The time we spent with them and the blessings that occurred from being with them. God can truly work through such friends.

☝️ the above reading I find very helpful in my interaction with others. Thanks for including it under this topic Eric.

I have noticed certain friends maintain a reoccurring connection with us in life. There are significant people who can often be a challenge to us. Yet as time goes on they may reenter our life showing us that some people have a lasting impression and influence on our lives. Especially those who remind us of our true purpose in this incarnation.

Thanks for spending time with six spiritual posts after this last one, and yes I counted them. It is helpful to know how balanced we are in our actions and that awareness at times even needs counting. I count how many Kriya’s i do at a meditation session otherwise I may just do as I feel like it. It also increases my daily practice and helps work off more karma, as well as develops patience in practice. Some people use mantra beads to do so and have something between the beads when they have practiced a certain number. I don’t recall saying I am out of balance, but since you expressed it, I do find that my balance gets disrupted when I’m around people who have little interest in meditation and for instance; more interest in politics. I at times need to remove myself from people, who for instance, enjoy debate or discussion about topics that have little relevance to spiritual progress. It can disrupt my peace and joy if I continue being around restless and angry people.

While it is true I can read what I want here, I do have the responsibility of an administrator, as you do serving in a store and perhaps your job is in part watching and at times service to other employees through helpful suggestions I hope to do the same here, although I recognize that at times people leave because of that. No doubt you too have experienced this at your job as manager of a store. So it is an important topic. The topic has quite a bit of relevance at the previous site mccoy spent time at. So I think it is worth mentioning.

Hiya Steve = )

I think the point is the same, since you were alluding to some type of imbalance and disagreement.

I can not control the feeling of imbalance or disagreement in others. I can try to help, which is why I tried making it easier for you to find some of those "spiritual threads" that were left untouched. But really, as you have confirmed- it comes down to the self. I don't wish to tell you or others how to live. And I don't wish to continually harp on things people just don't seem to understand. So, all good advice you have given here my friend. May this monologue serve you in a future setting. Or any person who feels things are not the way they want.

Separately,

I am not a moderator here by choice. I have long ago requested otherwise. You have implored it, and I have once or twice awkwardly obliged. Personally, I don't want it. As far as I know I do not behave rudely towards you or other members and I provide content that fits your desired image of the portal. I am now politely disengaging from this because I can only make my point so much before it becomes a waste of energy. And I believe I have heard your point and understand it as well- 

In friendship~

PS. Thanks for bumping this thread! There's a lot of nuggets in here worth going back over.

Yes I agree it has turned out to be a helpful thread in which many contributed. I read thru it again this morning and and came upon this above. It is still a point that I hope to integrate successfully. Although i believe it has particular significance now again for myself and others I have recently encountered in my life. Although the point about imbalance or disagreement with others has its origin in another thread. I find that it is significant in this thread as well because we will have moments of imbalance or disagreement with other friends and in ourselves and we have to come to terms with such feelings in some helpful way to all involved.

I do not mean to sweep it under the rug. Yet I do not always have a solution that is comfortable for others and at the same time; my vision for this site. I suppose this could be said for a Master as well. What others did or said to them was not always what they agreed with, although their response was always perfectly harmonious and balanced. So it it is obvious to me I have a ways to go to do the same.

🙏

Mccoy , Eric, Uwe Erica and Art thanks for frequenting this site and adding your experiences in meditation, life, love and friendship to this site! To any others that may come in the future… I also add you - however  my little thoughts and prayers may affect your life-to my daily prayers and gratefulness.

Thanks! Prayers and thoughts are always appreciated.

I think more than anything, saying prayers and praying for people supporting this site and it’s free mission will be of more value, to all participants.

Seek your friends in this life and perfect the friendship into Divine Friendship.
~Yogananda~

Uwe, I ensure you that I'm adopting the best strategies not to pass away soon!

I am also happy for other people that gain deep friendships here at the site. I am not able to attract friendships with everyone even if they have the same spiritual goal and some may not. The question for me is this; Do those around us and those we meet support our spiritual goals? Do they right us when we may be wrong? Do they enlighten us on issues, problems and with solutions that may help us forward? Do we meditate and pray when we are with them? If they do then we have chosen the friends that help us and not harm us.

Steve thanks for the phone call yesterday and the happy thanksgiving blessings. Sorry I missed you.

Happy Thanksgiving to all, I am grateful for the freedom of expression here, the diversity of opinion and the uniting spiritual principles.

I'll be spending the day with family and friends, and return your call when time permits!

Cheers.

I feel fortunate to have a few spiritual friends because it seems people often become limited in their interests, to those who have certain addictions to those who limit their intellectual or artistic interests. I’m totally fine with those who find that much of their time is taken up in activities that lead to liberation; the main goal of life.