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i don't think it's healthy i'm imposing my will onto so many friendships. i get upset when we don't have proper communication. selfish rather, blind to whatever might really be happening. relationships should flow, not feel forced- right . . . ? our needs or desires. . . no worries. life is good : D very interesting. just curious. it's rather selfish to get upset because my needs are not being met but it happens. . i'm curious how meditation has helped you fix these areas of your life ?

yes, that's something i'm trying to say- my needs seem superficial. funny how we give meaning to meaningless things. guess it has to do with spiritual lessons. if i believed everything i thought. . . i'd probably be dead  :D  heheh noooo idk. i was just upset for acting selfishly with some of my friends recently. blinded through ignorance, expecting too much and not being able to give in return. it's not really intentional, so i'm hoping somewhere a long the lines of entering meditation- i'm able to gain clarity of these moments and help things flow positively, even when that means separating. at least i'd be exerting will in a direction that FEELS right-at the same time, life is asking from me things in return in order to travel this path. haha idk why im posting anymore. there's really nothing to say. thanks for humoring me i suppose. really. stirring up things for no reason. i will find it soon ! something. . .  ;D gAHHHH heheheheh

thank you steve for taking the time to post
i really appreciate your words here
like a pickaxe to the frozen heart, and now- light shines through
the ice is melting as i read your thoughts and every word is valuable to me

thank you

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Yikes! i'm such a small creature and Big Brother is peeping thru everywhere!

I am not your Big Brother  ;D ~ I'll leave that job to someone else  

We had it so good... Talking to the angels
creating and seeing saints!

Good question Eric. Even though i meditate i still feel bad when i no longer can communicate with those i love. Yet it seems as though some people have robbed our past when they have made your life richer and you have made their lives richer. Our past and all its beautiful memories often seems stolen. Lost forever. I am still trying to understand it. Those people who stay with us.. they are our true friends... for this we can be grateful. So far I still feel the loss but I do not react negatively as once I may have. When we react we set up new waves of karma in motion.

hi Steve. it was nice to come back to this thread. Excellent post my friend. : ) I especially like this little exerpt.

i have never been married yet i have a family; My spiritual family. i have met many people in my life who vow never to marry again and seem to be very happy for it. They most likely would not be close to me as friends if they were married so i am very happy that they are not because they have more time to spend with God and also with me. i have found that most times people who get very close to one person separate from or loose many of their significant friends. There is also usually a lot of possessiveness and jealousy as a result on the part of those who are bound together. Personally i feel that if i was to have married those i was close with i would have made a critical mistake in my life and God has sparred me that.

Marriage life is not out of the question for many of us. Yet perhaps we have our reasons for not getting married and we may have not found that very special someone that we feel we want to make a life long commitment to. Having been in SRF for years i have also found that monks recommended changing our relationships when they are no longer functional. Why would someone want to subject themselves to living a life with someone that they have no common interests in? Especially if they find someone that would make them happy and help their spiritual life.

i find that relationships evolve in my life. Many people have come back in my life recently and i can explore those past encounters in new and meaningful way. It would b very difficult to do this if i were married.

We often grow apart from those who are close to us but later we are able to take up a relationship and see it differently. i have friends that feel this way and we feel we were drawn together from past life associations. As we learn to perfect friendship through are our friendship we are finding the greatest friend of them all-God.

I once heard Brother Ishtananda talk about the spin doctor we have in our own heads. I see it as one of the main reasons for separation in relationships. It is called taking things personally and listening to the spin doctor in our head that creates a personal version of what has happened. A testimonial of sorts. We believe what we want to about what has happened and sometimes do not face the truth:

The left hemisphere of the brain is trying to put a story together about our life.  The left hemisphere will do anything to keep a belief - sticking to it no matter what.    There was a woman in a hospital in New York.  She kept saying that she was at her home in Maine.  The psychiatrist asked her, "If you are in your home in Maine, then why are there elevators in the building that she is in now?"  The patient explained to the doctor, "You wouldn't believe what it cost to have those elevators installed in my house".   So you see we have a spin-doctor who is trying to keep the story together of  'who I am '.   We believe our own press releases.

The spin doctor story is interesting. We should all wonder if we have such a doctor in our mental hospital.

Sometimes people have counter-spin doctors though. They spin things contray to their interests. that's more than being objective, that's being biased against oneself. They are pretty few I believe but there are around, I myself had a counterpsin doctor in my mind for a time. I had to apply some torque and reverse the spin some.

Best af all is the no-spin doctor, a doctor who analyzes events and mental states in a detached and unbiased way.
That's difficult since we tend to be influenced by mental states, being consciousness more than matter.

Once we can feel the presence of the no-spin doctor though, we acquire extreme clarity of thought and objectiveness. 

i believe that meditation helps you be aware and understand energy fields much better. You begin to be more and more in tune to the energy patterns of those around you and how they are affecting your own aura and energy field. The company you keep is certainly instrumental  in your own attitudes, comfort and spiritual growth.

Interestingly enough i have found that even thinking about certain people can influence my state of consciousness. I often have to redirect my thoughts because some vibes emmited by others can be unsettling while others are harmonious and uplifting.

steve, looking through this thread, it's nice.
your last post,
i wonder- are these vibes you're tuning into the impressions left based on previous experience with the person?

well, hope you're good!

kind regards  :)
this thread is 8 years old

Yes i would say so, at least to some degree-previous experiences- but have often found that coming back to the person and their aura field, things have not changed much. Most people are psychological antiques and change very little in one life time. Sometimes though because of certain karmic debts as well as personal desires we come back to energy fields that are not always healthy to us however we may have certain desires we are working out with others who have similar desires so we are attracted to these people again. Although there may come a point we realize the karma we shared with them has finished. I also have found that the power of thought can change our consciousness to such a degree that we can rise above negative vibrations of others. We can also bring the vibrations of higher beings into our sphere with constant meditation and practicing their presence.

You have thanked me for bringing up old threads and revisiting them. In this case I am thanking you. It gives a perspective to things in our own lives. Like where was I? And where am I now? And, how have energy fields of others affected me over the years? Very important observations the past can bring in our lives.

I think it is important to recognize that we are not individuals alone. We are not rivers or streams alone. Because we all merge together at some point but often we create our own streams and rivers for awhile and disconnect from others seeing that we are functioning much different and have our own experiences to engage in for a while. We have to be tolerant of others for that as well. I think that is what I am learning from coming back to this thread. Thanks.

P.S. I noticed I used the word ‘we’ several times here this by no means is an indication I believe these views our held by you! —Just a personal joke with you my friend


Jitendra

you caught us

Yea I guess we are and just never seem satisfied with the treasure we have. Always chasing after the wind. But occasionally we can see clearly enough to recognize we have been flanked with blessings along the way... in those moments we find ourselves in gratitude and humble submission to our fate and surrender to our destiny.

One  should not be submissive to a unsuitable environment. Environmental troubles are born of your own past actions in the first place. You have woven your own cocoon of bondage. The first thing to do is to try to understand the cause of your environmental bondage, so that you can eradicate from your physical and mental bodies all lingering infection of discord. This brings about a mental resurrection, giving rise to spiritual realization, and eventually resurrection into the spirit. Resurrect your consciousness from the environment of ignorance. It is better to be unhappy about your own ignorance then to die happily with it. Remain awake and alive always, ever ready and desirous to learn and to behave properly. The self-improving person, is the increasingly happy person, and is influential  in promoting the happiness of others. ~ Paramahansa Yogananda

I am grateful to have a place like this to be with friends that meditate and have other psychic and cultural similarities. Although when I’m aware my ‘needs’ are not met, I recognize that needs are often expectations and desires. It’s good to separate needs from desires so we don’t expect so much out of others.