Spiritual Portal

Social and Spiritual Fellowship => Satsang => Topic started by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jul 11, 2011 08:43 am



Title: Internet Friendships/Relationships
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jul 11, 2011 08:43 am
when a soul is reunited with god....'it' becomes deeply 'rooted in god' again......

god like qualities come forth...the soul learns the Love of god,,,and is then able to share this Love with others.....

the Love of god...contains no jealously....possessiveness.....

it is difficult to Love another while soul consciousness is still in illusion/maya.....

for when in maya and loving another,,,,jealously and possessivness can happen.....those, are the sin....those are the 'things' that can keep soul from god.....

sex itself is not a sin....it is the jealously and possessiveness that is the sin....

until a soul is deeply rooted in god...it has the potential to fall prey to those sins.

((Love&Hugs&OM)))
yoshi


Anne your theme is similar in your posts from the past. i certainly have 'things' to work on in life. Jealousy and possessiveness have never seemed to haunt me. Have they been something that u have been working on? i have always felt that if something wasn't meant to b then why b possessive or jealous? Y not b happy for someone's happiness if they r indeed happy? We strive to b kind to others and hope for their highest welfare. If we r jealous and possessive we leave ourselves closed off from love from somewhere and someone else.

P/S Flying Squirrel; i do not think any of us r pretending to give SRF's opinions.

Jitendra

_/\_ my post was not directed to anyone in particular...this is something that i have realized is all :)

(((Love&Hugs&OM))
yoshi

Neither of us r directing our opinions at anyone in particular. When we communicate we establish rapport with each other. In this way we deepen friendship. Thanks. This shows love in action. We accept each others imperfections. Soul consciousness happens between those who love God and love their neighbor as themselves. i am just saying that jealousy and possessiveness r not as prevalent among those who have soul consciousness. What we experience in our life may hold true for the past and the people in our past. But our present circumstances can not b measured with past standards. Especially if people in our present circumstances do not fit the criteria of the past. We change. We grow and so do our encounters with others. They become more evolved. When this happens we r surrounded by new lessons and circumstances that do not fit the lessons and experiences of past relationships but rather a growing understanding that everything coexists as part of our consciousness. This is assuming we r learning along the way. Recognizing this is leaving our self open to life and the joy of fresh air in all life's new encounters.

There r certain boundaries that exist between each other. The internet serves us well in getting to know one another but also can hide vulnerabilities and becomes a shield against closeness when this happens. This too is not directed in particular. Yet it is something that i have seen as a re-occuring phenomena that exists in getting to know someone. We see boundaries for personal interchange when we actually have a chance to meet as human beings and we continue to keep relationships at the internet level. Perhaps some people use the internet as a way to inspire and help. Others use it as a way to have pseudo relationships that never mature but reflect the immaturity of those involved.

In Divine Love & Friendship

Jitendra


Title: Re: Internet Friendships/Relationships
Post by: flying squirrel on Jul 11, 2011 04:38 pm
Perhaps some people use the internet as a way to inspire and help. Others use it as a way to have pseudo relationships that never mature but reflect the immaturity of those involved.


**************************************************************************
stop and think a minute !

not all internet relationships are meant to mature into full time, real friendships

not even most of them , at best a few 

does not mean that those involved are immature   8)

sounds to me
this comes from a disappointment from your side of the fence


Title: Re: Internet Friendships/Relationships
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jul 11, 2011 05:19 pm
Perhaps some people use the internet as a way to inspire and help. Others use it as a way to have pseudo relationships that never mature but reflect the immaturity of those involved.


**************************************************************************
stop and think a minute !

not all internet relationships are meant to mature into full time, real friendships

not even most of them , at best a few 

does not mean that those involved are immature   8)

sounds to me
this comes from a disappointment from your side of the fence

i agree with u. We make choices and live with the outcomes. We cannot expect that they would become mature.  We may feel disappointment that they may not and we can also adjust to what is and what has become. Disappointment is human. We have all been disappointed. We move on. Hope breeds eternal. Despair has no place in true joy. We can use the internet to inspire and help others...

Jitendra


Title: Re: Internet Friendships/Relationships
Post by: flying squirrel on Jul 11, 2011 05:53 pm
We cannot expect that they would become mature.  We may feel disappointment that they may not and we can also adjust to what is and what has become.

squirrel is confused with terminology of " mature " in context of this internet communication ?

could it be, instead of " their immaturity " it is ....

more that they are not living up to how you expect they should be responding / or want them to respond ?

maybe they just aren't interested ?
blow to the ego at times !  :o
when things don' t go as we like

different people ~ different expectations ? 


Title: Re: Internet Friendships/Relationships
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jul 11, 2011 06:00 pm
i think we always have to let go of all our expectations. Life never turns out how we think it will. U r not the only one who is trying to understand! All of your views r possible Squirrel. Each situation with others can pose different challenges and opportunities. The ones u have mentioned r possibilities that most of us have experienced at one time or another in our lives.

Jitendra


Title: Re: Internet Friendships/Relationships
Post by: flying squirrel on Jul 11, 2011 06:05 pm
always nice not to be the only one, out on a branch !   ;D  8)


Title: Re: Internet Friendships/Relationships
Post by: yoshi on Jul 11, 2011 06:31 pm
(http://public-domain.zorger.com/squirrel-nutkin/27-color-drawing-of-five-squirrels-playing-on-tree-branch-public-domain.jpg)


Title: Re: Internet Friendships/Relationships
Post by: flying squirrel on Jul 11, 2011 06:45 pm
hey yoshi !  8)

check out da ears, must have been rabbits in a past life !!   ;D  ;D

 


Title: Re: Internet Friendships/Relationships
Post by: yoshi on Jul 11, 2011 07:44 pm
hey yoshi !  8)

check out da ears, must have been rabbits in a past life !!   ;D  ;D

 

^^^   LOL  !!!   :D 8)  ^^^


gotta giggle outta this fellow below...  ;D

(http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1059386102755&id=58913112a49a82072f86f9f5a3457aab&url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.socuteanimals.com%2fimages%2fphotos%2f3613909.jpg)


Title: Re: Internet Friendships/Relationships
Post by: flying squirrel on Jul 11, 2011 07:52 pm


gotta giggle outta this fellow below...  ;D

(http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1059386102755&id=58913112a49a82072f86f9f5a3457aab&url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.socuteanimals.com%2fimages%2fphotos%2f3613909.jpg)

hey ! He looks familiar ! 

reminds me of a local guru  ;D
we hung out on da branch of tree of knowledge

" tcht tcht tcht "  which translates from squisdom  to " om om om "   ;D 8)
 


Title: Re: Internet Friendships/Relationships
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jul 11, 2011 08:47 pm
always nice not to be the only one, out on a branch !   ;D  8)

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ_PgpI3edUojz3N0ey7uDU01IR8P6hgieY3xfg7K-4yU0T4r-xjw)
Sometimes we get so far out on a limb that we have to take a flying leap before we fall! Wow the branches get thin sometimes and u loose balance! Hope i find some fresh acorns on another tree to share with my companions. Need to b a better squirrel so i notice all the love around me. i'll share when i do! Watch those thin branches they get u every time.



Title: Re: Internet Friendships/Relationships
Post by: flying squirrel on Jul 11, 2011 09:38 pm
wheeeeeeeeeeee !  ;D 

who needs astral travel ? HA HA !

sharing the love brother  8)

allergic to acorns :o


Title: Re: Internet Friendships/Relationships
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jul 13, 2011 04:23 am
wheeeeeeeeeeee !  ;D 

who needs astral travel ? HA HA !

sharing the love brother  8)

allergic to acorns :o

Don't worry; there r enough nuts around here to satisfy us all!



Title: Re: Internet Friendships/Relationships
Post by: flying squirrel on Jul 13, 2011 09:52 pm
Don't worry; there r enough nuts around here to satisfy us all!

 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Internet Friendships/Relationships
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jan 25, 2016 07:19 pm
The interesting thing about internet friends and relationships is that they have the element of suspense and there is much that is left to your imagination. The challenging part can be when you finally meet the person and add the physical dimension to the relationship. It seems to me to b important to get a realistic view of who you r communicating with if it is at all possible. Distances and financial expenditures play a part in meeting others we r acquainted to on the internet.

You know, words are so powerful - more than most of us realize, I suspect.  They resonate and last - sometimes for years.  Some people let the words fly based on a passing emotion, especially when angry.  Later, when they realize how the power of those words may have impacted the other person, they might apologize sincerely... but the sting is still there.  It lasts.  Do that enough times, and the other person might believe in the power of the sting more than the power of the apology and stop responding.  The origin of the anger and the resentment depends on the rapport of the people.  Could be a clash of personalities.  Could be projections from childhood!  Could be someone is overly sensitive.  Could be someone is not sensitive enough. This is why it's better to assume innocence.  Might have nothing to do with you.  Might have everything to do with you.  Just because we believe we are spiritual doesn't mean we never behave like jerks!  Lol. 

On the other topic, I find that on the web, when one invites a stranger to correspond privately they sometimes feel at liberty to say completely inappropriate things - especially men.  Declarations of romantic love!  Unasked for advice based on not much! Temper tantrums, etc.   For some - not all - there is a sense of instant intimacy that is mostly imagined.   I don't like that.  Getting to know people takes time.  Not saying you personally would do such things, but it's sort of a habit I've developed. I prefer to get to know people out in the open first. I suspect I lived in Victorian times once - lol! Am kind of old fashioned. :)

The owl is beautiful - like you said, the eyes are very human-like.  Sensitive.  There is something lonely about it.  No, not lonely, raw.  Do you know who painted it?  The colors are washed out.  The focus is the eyes.  I think you nailed it in your description.  I see the same things.  :)

Don't u think declarations of romantic love are quite unrealistic unless there r mutual feelings?

Well i see u left out one critical factor... i am sure u r aware of it though. That is karma. We continue to play out roles from the past and have learned much from those roles. However lingering karma with others brings us back to face the beauty and difficulties we had with others before.

'Assuming innocence' is one thing but taking the initiative in being kind and friendly can sometimes be a dangerous project with snake pits along the way... as i have mentioned before. U were not sure what i meant about this. What i mean is that many people read u all wrong, project their baggage on u, have warped perceptions and our sometimes quite vindictive to friends/lovers when it does not work out their way.

Sayonara for now.  :)


Title: Re: Internet Friendships/Relationships
Post by: SI on Jan 25, 2016 10:02 pm
The interesting thing about internet friends and relationships is that they have the element of suspense and there is much that is left to your imagination. The challenging part can be when you finally meet the person and add the physical dimension to the relationship.

Challenging might be an understatement in some cases, you know how people are soooo visual  :o


Title: Re: Internet Friendships/Relationships
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jan 26, 2016 12:33 am
i just think that we need to work within practical parameters. After all most of us live quite a distance from each other and may never meet each other in person. People have to feel a strong pull to want to meet personally and if one person does not feel that same pull then we back off and are at square one--which isn't that bad after all. i mean we r fortunate to have this kind of connection.

One of the perplexing phenomena of relationships of all sorts is that interests in people do not always match. What i mean by this is that i have found that people interested in me---i may not take such a strong interest in them--- but later i might change and feel different. i have also found this to work the other way around. Someone i may initially have an interest for ... later that strong interest dissipates. When two people continue to have similar interests in each other either as friends or lovers then you really have some dynamite going there.

i can tell u that my interest in Amma and Paramahansa Yogananda have been dynamite because the interest was returned and continues to be! PROBLEM IS .....RECOGNIZING IT AT ALL TIMES.... NOT JUST SOMETIMES.


Title: Re: Internet Friendships/Relationships
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jan 26, 2016 11:38 am
The interesting thing about internet friends and relationships is that they have the element of suspense and there is much that is left to your imagination. The challenging part can be when you finally meet the person and add the physical dimension to the relationship.

Challenging might be an understatement in some cases, you know how people are soooo visual  :o

Not me SI i am visually stupitendish.  :-X


Title: Re: Internet Friendships/Relationships
Post by: Shannon on Jan 26, 2016 06:46 pm
I think that is very true.  Really, anyone who reaches the end of their life who can count one or two truly good friends amongst their company is deeply blessed - because life, circumstance, attitudes and all else tend to get in the way.  :). The Guru is always there.


Title: Re: Internet Friendships/Relationships
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jan 26, 2016 08:39 pm
I think that is very true.  Really, anyone who reaches the end of their life who can count one or two truly good friends amongst their company is deeply blessed - because life, circumstance, attitudes and all else tend to get in the way.  :). The Guru is always there.

Quite frankly, I think it amounts to this: Do I want to spend my life alone? Not really. If u can't meet someone half way u/i... could b destined to live alone.

Shannon... what I was trying to say is this: U have mentioned people are basically the same. Yet I feel as though the Masters have done much to help me, thru circumstances and people to change my attitudes over the years.



Title: Re: Internet Friendships/Relationships
Post by: Shannon on Jan 27, 2016 05:05 pm
The Masters help devotees to evolve, yes using friends to do it, so that one can more clearly reflect their true self; Spirit.  Attitude is ego.  No one is ever really alone.  Only feels that way sometimes!


Title: Re: Internet Friendships/Relationships
Post by: SI on Jan 30, 2016 12:36 am
One man's alone is another mans peace and serenity.