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Title: karma question...suicide Post by: blue nova on Sep 07, 2010 05:50 pm was not sure where to post this. karma..is kind of a service of god/creator/universe ??
ok. i need some karmic advice for a friend. anyone know of karma attached to suicide ? i received mail from someone....asked me the ramifications for suicide. about the only thing i could say was....that reincarnation will be for sure...and the suicide will be a 'theme' in ur next life. aka, it will reoccur until soul learns 'suicide lesson'. ((((Hugs))))) Title: Re: karma question...suicide Post by: amorabsolutus on Sep 08, 2010 12:05 am I don't think their is a karmic punishment for suicide. I think that is all talk of control... However, we all come here for a reason. We had a reason to be here, and taking our lives may of prevented us from finishing that reason. There is also the possiblity that it was known all along that one would of committed suicide so it may not have much of an impact.
I don't know if there are any ramifications of it, but IMO, it is a negative act that you are placing upon yourself. So that negativity and mindset may send you into a place of confusion and being lost in the next realm as you try to find yourself. I have also heard some say that suicide causes you to come right back without a break. Right back into the same circumstances. Title: Re: karma question...suicide Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Sep 08, 2010 05:10 am I don't think their is a karmic punishment for suicide. I think that is all talk of control... However, we all come here for a reason. We had a reason to be here, and taking our lives may of prevented us from finishing that reason. There is also the possiblity that it was known all along that one would of committed suicide so it may not have much of an impact. I don't know if there are any ramifications of it, but IMO, it is a negative act that you are placing upon yourself. So that negativity and mindset may send you into a place of confusion and being lost in the next realm as you try to find yourself. I have also heard some say that suicide causes you to come right back without a break. Right back into the same circumstances. Suicide for what reason? Title: Re: karma question...suicide Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Sep 08, 2010 05:13 am was not sure where to post this. karma..is kind of a service of god/creator/universe ?? ok. i need some karmic advice for a friend. anyone know of karma attached to suicide ? i received mail from someone....asked me the ramifications for suicide. about the only thing i could say was....that reincarnation will be for sure...and the suicide will be a 'theme' in ur next life. aka, it will reoccur until soul learns 'suicide lesson'. ((((Hugs))))) There are consequences for everything that is the nature of this creation. The question is what kind of consequences do we want for our actions? Jitendra Title: Re: karma question...suicide Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Sep 08, 2010 05:35 am Still waiting for Anne's response. Should modern society keep one alive when it is time due to leave? This question involves much more than taking a life. Sometimes it involves the ethics of prolonging a life and whether this is natural. i remember the story of Master prolonging the life of a deer by his prayers. He realized that he had made a mistake and that the soul of the deer was being held back by staying. In ancient Egypt human beings went into temples and left the body naturally when it was no longer fit to carry out physical routines.
Steve Title: Re: karma question...suicide Post by: blue nova on Sep 08, 2010 02:21 pm Suicide for what reason? depression i suppose. tired of life ? :'( Quote namaste2all wrote: Seems Suicide in most cases will cause the soul to linger (in LIMBO) in the earth realm mixed with lower astral realms... likely will be forced to see in earth observations (and via astral akashic record templates in astral) the suffering, and imbalance caused by un-natural, early termination of Earth lifetime. At minimal, be bound in this LIMBO until natural lifetime events play out -- and that may include the many lifetimes of others that were impacted... the suicide being in Limbo, until the others have re-covered the trauma of their loved one, etc i have read or heard this somewhere also. ty namaste <3<3<3 I have also heard some say that suicide causes you to come right back without a break. Right back into the same circumstances. i have also read or heard this . ty amor <3<3<3 ty all for your responses. ((((Hugs)))) Title: Re: karma question...suicide Post by: blue nova on Sep 08, 2010 08:20 pm _/\_ my lovies from soul searching....it is not i who ask this question for myself....it truly stems from a friend....not me <3<3<3
sending Love & ((((Hugs)))) Title: Re: karma question...suicide Post by: guest88 on Sep 08, 2010 10:30 pm (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/cloud9.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) :)anNnnNNNNNNnNNnNNEEeeEEeE~~~~EenenNENENEeENNNNE
NEEEEEEEE (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/hug.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) am i your lovely? <3<3<3 lovelylovelylovelylovvveeeieeie (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-bounce012.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) lovely one :) :D Title: Re: karma question...suicide Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Sep 08, 2010 10:36 pm _/\_ my lovies from soul searching....it is not i who ask this question for myself....it truly stems from a friend....not me <3<3<3 sending Love & ((((Hugs)))) Please tell your friend that we would love to get to know her/him and they are invited to meeting some wonderful people here at soulsearching. Steve Title: Re: karma question...suicide Post by: blue nova on Sep 09, 2010 12:36 am (((( Steve ))))) (((( namaste2all)))) (((( amor )))) (((( childsong <3<3<3 :D yes u r my lovvVVllllIIeeIIeeEE ;)>>>> Last Edit: Today at 02:34:55 pm by childsong » ;D ))))
lovin' y'all <3<3<3 squirrel to00 ;) (((Hugs)))) Title: Re: karma question...suicide Post by: guest88 on Sep 09, 2010 01:51 am (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-love064.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) YIPEE! ^_^ :D(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-hug002.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php):D<3<3<3<3<3
Title: Re: karma question...suicide Post by: blue nova on Sep 09, 2010 08:22 pm (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-love064.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) YIPEE! ^_^ :D(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-hug002.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php):D<3<3<3<3<3 awww...LLoo00vvViiIIeee....(((Hugs))) to you , u are too0000 kind !!!!! how ya doin' ??? do please 'chime' in and tell us HOW YA DOIN'...OK ??? OH....i am via telepatheeeein' you right now mister !!! iffin we do not hear from u in the nxt few hours...im boardin a greyhound an makin my way 'down there'..... !! ;D :( ??? Title: Re: karma question...suicide Post by: guest88 on Sep 09, 2010 11:53 pm :) all is well. thank you <3
Title: Re: karma question...suicide Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Sep 15, 2010 09:13 pm :) all is well. thank you <3 i believe that those on the path may initially have these inclinations. It is almost a death wish. However i think that it is natural since the soul has a dim recollection of the work already done to 'kill' the ego. It is the desire for life that often causes so many problems since we want to experience our desires in the outer world. There must be the 'death' of this desire replaced with the desire for emancipation and liberation. A premature forced end to physical life would only lead us back here. Because the soul choose not to finish it's unfinished work and lessons it must build up the desire to come back and stay here to learn the wisdom that comes thru various experiences here on the earth plain. (An interesting film about this is What Dreams May Come with Robin Williams.) This would result in early deaths as a child until the soul overcomes his/her defeat outlooks and comes back to be victorious in the battle of life. Jitendra Title: Re: karma question...suicide Post by: guest88 on Sep 15, 2010 10:22 pm ??? huh? :o
Title: Re: karma question...suicide Post by: flying squirrel on Sep 15, 2010 10:35 pm Confused ? so was Confucious cousin ! 8)
hey Jitendra ! Without a desire for life, what is there ? We are on Earth, put here for a reason. It is thru experiences one learns, without life's experiences how are the lessons learned ? Might as well just stay floating as soul, yearning so much not to be here, just stay with God in the first place .... why bother coming down to Earth ? Might as well enjoy, in moderation, some of the pleasures here on Earth. 8) Think there needs to be some balance, spiritual life and other. i believe that those on the path may initially have these inclinations. It is almost a death wish. However i think that it is natural since the soul has a dim recollection of the work already done to 'kill' the ego. It is the desire for life that often causes so many problems since we want to experience our desires in the outer world. There must be the 'death' of this desire replaced with the desire for emancipation and liberation. Title: Re: karma question...suicide Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Sep 16, 2010 11:35 pm Confused ? so was Confucious cousin ! 8) hey Jitendra ! Without a desire for life, what is there ? We are on Earth, put here for a reason. It is thru experiences one learns, without life's experiences how are the lessons learned ? Might as well just stay floating as soul, yearning so much not to be here, just stay with God in the first place .... why bother coming down to Earth ? Might as well enjoy, in moderation, some of the pleasures here on Earth. 8) Think there needs to be some balance, spiritual life and other. i believe that those on the path may initially have these inclinations. It is almost a death wish. However i think that it is natural since the soul has a dim recollection of the work already done to 'kill' the ego. It is the desire for life that often causes so many problems since we want to experience our desires in the outer world. There must be the 'death' of this desire replaced with the desire for emancipation and liberation. The point is that everyone is looking for happiness. Are they not? But where does one find true happiness? Happiness is found going inward and that happiness manifests outwardly. Permanent happiness cannot be found in this life. It is temporal and not lasting. Therefore our desire should be directed inwardly and not outwardly towards the senses and this life. So when we die to the world and become alive to the soul we are bringing a portable happiness with us whether in the world or not in the world. Buddhists believe karma keeps one trapped in an endless cycle of death and rebirth (samsara), and the only way out is through enlightenment. To become enlightened, one has to eliminate desire. Buddha taught that desire is the root of suffering; that it causes attachment, which leads to suffering, and in turn causes other beings to suffer. This produces negative karma. If one eliminates desire and stops causing suffering, one can become enlightened, as he had. So you ask "without the desire for life what is there?" There is enlightenment and when one seeks this liberation and to end suffering he/she eventually desires nothing. Having no desires he/she is content. Jitendra Title: Re: karma question...suicide Post by: blue nova on Sep 17, 2010 02:32 pm Jitendra wrote :
Quote There is enlightenment and when one seeks this liberation and to end suffering he/she eventually desires nothing. Having no desires he/she is content. i am not sure if desire is the correct word to use here...but as enlightenment happens...the 'desire' for god increases...... godgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgod and more god. :D <3<3<3 Title: Re: karma question...suicide Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Sep 17, 2010 07:31 pm We are now on lesson #3 This is part of the poem at the beginning: On the alter of my inner vihara (Vihara (विहार) is the Sanskrit and Pali term for (Buddhist) monastery) I Place flowers of desirelessness. Their chaste beauty is Thine, O Spirit! |